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Sunday, February 8th, 2009 at 9:00 am  |  246 responses

The Post Up: Odom Love

A little gushing about my love affair with the game.

by Holly MacKenzie

Good Morning SLAMmers,

Maybe it’s the wild week we just had in the L, maybe it’s as a result of Chris Webber’s jersey retirement ceremony or something else entirely, but I’m feeling introspective today and I’m so in love with this game, I’m about to burst out of thankfulness for it.

My apologies for going AWOL last week. I can’t say I regret taking three days away from the Post Up, though. It was a wild week in sports. Kobe’s 61 at the Garden, Bron’s not-quite triple-double only a couple of days later, the Lakers in Toronto, the Lakers taking down the Celtics in what may be the game of the season so far, Bron’s outburst about Mo Williams being snubbed for the All-Star game again, Chris Webber’s jersey retiring ceremony and finally the Lakers going into Cleveland and getting the W yesterday thanks to LO showing his heart on the Cavs homefloor as the Lakers left their mark all over it.

I’m exhausted. Physically and emotionally. I’m looking forward to All-Star because I feel like I need some time to indulge in basketball that doesn’t mean anything for a weekend. Dunks and three-pointers, skills and G-E-I-C-O shots. I wouldn’t trade my basketball obsession for anything though. Going back to C-Webb’s ceremony on Friday night, it reminded me once again of how life is basketball and basketball truly is the microcosm of life.

While watching that ceremony I was a silly girl who couldn’t help but shed a few tears. Seeing Webb with his knees shaking, tears shining, sweatbeads forming, all because of the emotion he was feeling as a result of his career, life, friends, family and love, it made me so thankful. So very thankful for this game.

Do you ever stop and think about what the game has given you?

It’s given me understanding and patience. The understanding that work ethic will take you much further than just natural ability. That anyone can dream, but those who put their dreams in action and truly devote themselves wholeheartedly can accomplish so much more than what the non-believers or non-doers around them could ever imagine. Many times, more than what they themselves had allowed themselves to believe.

It’s taught me that bone-crushing defeat and gut-wrenching losses can either beat you down or strengthen your resolve and that’s up to you to decide. That for every loss, there is another opportunity to be better and succeed. That the key to the bigger picture isn’t just in grasping the chance and seizing the moment, but in opening your eyes and allowing yourself to see that a bigger picture does exist.

The game has brought me some of the greatest gifts of my life. It has taught me love and passion, compassion and heart. It has definitely given me some of the most important people I know and has brought people into my life who will remain there forever. I can’t even begin to imagine who I’d be without this game. It is me and I am it.

We are inextricably linked forever.

I think of a life without it and I come up empty. That life would not be mine. I’m sure many of you feel the same way. Through good times and bad, basketball is there. Happy and sad, whether watching at home, from in a sports bar or live at the game where you are sitting so close you could reach out and touch the players. Whether we are sitting in nosebleeds or hanging out in the locker room pre- and postgame, basketball links all of us and brings a sense of oneness and community.

That’s beauty.

That’s basketball.

And life.

When I woke up today I was damn thankful that I’ve got this game in my life and that no one can take it away. To pass along what a very dear friend of mine recently told me, “treat the game well and it will treat you well.”

I feel I’ve given the game my heart and in return, it has given me the world. Time after time after time.

Tell me, what has basketball given you?

Oops, one more thing the game has given: Jeff Van Gundy working Lakers/Cavs games, or, any game, really. That’s a gift in itself. The man is fantastic.

Okay, returning to our regularly scheduled recaps, let’s  run quickly through things from yesterday.

First, Los Angles Lakers.

FTH.

6-0 on this road trip, including wins over Boston and then the Cavs to close the trip out. Taking the season series over each of these opponents and stopping that 23-0 undefeated home record at Quicken Loans Arena. These guys are not playing around. LO with the game of his season and the aggressiveness that makes my heart so very proud of him .Bron with an awful game, and still only two rebounds away from another triple-double. He’s scary, that one. Kobe sick, IV during halftime, wrapped in towels while on the bench. The best part of this one, well there were two things that stuck out to me. The first, was that they did it without Kobe being Kobe. The second, they were able to rest both Kobe and LO for most of the fourth and their second unit, anchored by Pau Gasol, kept the lead rolling. Lakers 101 Cavs 91. It was a good day for Laker fans. It was also a great day for Lamar who finished with 28 and 17 on the afternoon.

The first game on ABC was something else, too. The Spurs are damn dangerous, especially with Roger Mason Jr. hitting big shots like he was born for it. This one between the Celtics and the Spurs went down to the final seconds and when it mattered, San Antonio was just a little more solid and took the game 105-99. Tim Duncan had a great game for the Spurs with 23 points and 13 rebounds while KG had 26 and 12 for the C’s. Mason had 11 points, none bigger than the Bigger than you can believe.three he had with 20.4 seconds left in the game to give the Spurs the lead for good.

Brandon Roy validated my extreme enjoyment of his game last night as he somehow managed to get to the hoop against the Knicks and hit a beauty layup at the Buzzer to give the Blazers a 109-108 victory. His 18th and 19th points of the night were among the prettiest I’ve seen this season and there is just this calmness about him that is perfection. Of course he gets the last shot. Of course he can be trusted to make the right decision. Of course. It comes naturally to him to lead.

Orlando did what they were supposed to do and defeated the Nets 101-84 as they get used to life without Jameer Nelson. Dwight Howard had 30 and 16 while Mickael Pietrus added 17. Devin Harris had 28 points and 12 assists for the Nets who were without Vince Carter who was resting a hyperextended right elbow.

Washington welcomed Caron Butler back into the lineup after he missed the last two with the flu and he  surprised the Pacers as they took down Indiana 119-117 behind Butler’s 35 points and a 34-point effort from Antawn Jamison. Danny Granger had 29 points for the Pacers while TJ Ford had 23 in the loss. With the game tied at 117, it was Butler’s jumper at the buzzer that gave the Wizards their 11th victory of the season.

The Thunder held on for the 116-113 victory against the Kings and Kevin Durant had another big game with 39 points. Beno Udrih had 29 points for the Kings while Kevin Martin and John Salmons each added 23, with Salmons adding 11 assists as well.

The Hornets held on for the 101-97 victory against the Timberwolves, but scary moment for the Wolves as Al Jefferson went down in the final minute of the game while trying to block a shot by Sean Marks. With all of the losses and struggles the Wolves have had this season, it just wouldn’t be fair for them to lose their best player. Thoughts and well wishes are being sent to Al Jefferson.

The Suns took down the Pistons 107-97 and Steve Nash had 21 assists and only 2 turnovers as they used a second quarter where they outscored Detroit 33-21 to get ahead and not look back. Shaquille O’Neal had 20 and 10 for the Suns in the victory as Richard Hamilton scored 27 off of the bench for the Pistons.

Golden State took down the Jazz 116-96 behind Corey Maggette’s 26 points and Stephen Jackson’s 20-10-8 night. Deron Williams had 31 points, 10 assists and 7 rebounds for the Jazz in the loss.

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  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    Hi Holly.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Hi Ryan.

  • mongoloid

    Hi Eboy.

  • http://iwantoutofokc.com/ James the balla

    first … Lakers… gotta’ love em!!

  • http://www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    Hi Holly. Hi Ryan. Hi Eboy.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    Don’t forget Mongoloid, Myles.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    Where are my manners? Hello Mongoloid.

  • Tom

    I love how for most of the 4th quarter of a heated spurs/celtics game, Mike Tirico still managed to spend a good 10min talking about where the game ball went. Roger Mason is heartless to keep nailing all these game winning 3′s.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Hi Myles. Hi Holly. Hi Mongo.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    This Holly MacKenzie is a pretty good writer. Where did ya’ll get her from?

  • Squirrel7

    Am I the only one who thinks of Horry whenever I watched Roger Mason Jr? Usually relatively quiet for the first 47 minutes of a game, then suddenly the guy to watch in the last 60 seconds? Amazing that Pop seems to have found a ready-made replacement for Rob.

  • sab

    look… i like the enthusiasm… and you Lakers fans have GOT something to be enthusiastic about now, that was a great performance last night… unfortunately, because y’all talk SOOOOOOOO much about the Lakers, this column actually makes me wanna rip my eyes out… “what a week that was! the Lakers did this, the Lakers did that, [token mention of another team] but really it was all about the Lakers”… as i say, heart’s in the right place, but this is unreadable dirge

  • http://www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    So, um, I hear Chris Brown punched Rihanna in the face. How was everyone elses weekend?

  • http://www.dinonationblog.com James Borbath AkA The Dino Blogger

    Being a Raptor fan there is not much to love about them. Oh but Hi everyone I don’t want the Raptors struggles to make me a rude person. Anyway I was looking forward to the H-O-R-S-E thing but naming it G-E-I-C-O kind of took a bit of shine off it for me. I mean it is tough times for the economy and all but was that needed? I think not. Anyway beyond the struggles of my Raptors. I actually wish they were “MY” Raptors. But that is beside the point. It has been a great season beyond the Raptors struggles. Lebron and Kobe and that week of ball at MSG was off the hook. It will be fun watching the playoffs with no personal bias to hold me back from enjoying them.

  • http://www.youtube.com/teamairyork blackice87

    hello all! The NBA is timeless, its retained even exceeding at times the entertainment value it had during the 90′s when I watched as a child. They need to bring back the I Love This Game slogan because that’s what Holly’s post made me think haha.

  • Squirrel7

    *watch

  • Myung

    I love how the Hawks lost at home to the Clippers by 24 points on Saturday night and still have a fairly solid hold of the 4th spot in the East. I still think our ugliest loss of the season was to the Heat about 2 weeks ago, but this one is right up there. I’m not sure the Clippers missed a shot in the entire 2nd half; they could’ve beaten any team in the League with that kind of shooting performance (but I’m sure our sorry defense had something to do with it as well). We need to bounce back in a big way; thankfully our next opponent is Washington. I’m also looking forward to seeing Bibby, Horford, and Joe represent for us this upcoming weekend in PHX.

  • Myung

    Oh, and good morning, everyone.

  • Squirrel7

    I’m sure someone’s pointed this out before, but it seems lucky that the NBA managed to get a 5-letter sponsor for the new H-O-R-S-E event! Thank god someone like McDonalds aren’t sponsoring it or they’d be at it all night…….

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Myung: Someone else also lost to the Clips by 20+ points. Right now, Zach Randolph has to have one of the best PER’s in the league. Go figure?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    Sitting on press row of the Wisconsin-Penn State game yesterday — which I’m glad no one here cares about — while the dance team performed during a timeout, I said to the guy next to me, “Is this Rihanna?”
    He said no, it was something called Ting Tings. It had a good beat but was kind of annoying.
    As I said to the guy next to me, “I thought maybe it was Rihanna, and since I’m going to marry her someday, I was willing to give this song the benefit of the doubt.”
    He said, “Don’t you think Chris Brown has probably got you beat on that one?”
    I said, “Well, for now, but I think eventually she’ll see the error of her ways.”
    This was before I knew he (allegedly) beat the sh*t out of her.
    After watching 40 minutes of the Aryan death march that is the Wisconsin offense, this was pretty much the highlight of my afternoon.

  • http://coco-vents.blogspot.com Co Co

    Myung, all of the Clippers players were on fire, even the streaky ones. There was really nothing to be done about that.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    “Aryan death march that is the Wisconsin offense”
    -
    Jones for the line of the day. And it is still early…

  • http://lastknickstanding.blogspot.com Bryan

    What a game.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Thing is, I think Rihanna could take Chris Brown. Seriously.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Co-sign TAD.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    About the Aryan death march.

  • The Last Kings Fan

    Thank you Holly for the nice words on Webb’s night. Now we’ve got Vlade’s in six weeks….

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    M.I.A.’s dress was, on a scale of 1 to 10, a solid -78. I was about to thow up.

  • AlbertBarr

    Although the Pistons are strugglin’…AI’s full court bounce pass through Grant Hill’s legs was pretty awesome.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    Honestly, while still tragic, Bynum’s injury allows the Lakers to play a different game. 1) Pau is the sole low block dude. Him facing up on Z w/out any help was not fair. 2) LO gets to play serious minutes again in order to do serious damage.
    Let’s face it: Bynum as good as he is, is not exactly a rim protector and Odom rebounds the ball just as well. They do get killed on depth now, I don’t trust this Powell dude.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    Apparently, he smashed her face in because she allegedly gave him herpes. Whatevs. How would he be able to tell from all the groupie action is getting? Punching a womam is never a good look, b—- move.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    She should have held up her umbrella-a-a-a-a-a.

  • riggs

    its cause she told him to shut up and drive

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    E, didn’t DWade just get out of a herpes situation in court with his ex? Bugs be spreadin, yo.

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    Did she get it from Dwyane Wade?

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    very nice reminiscing Holly. I’m sitting here, dreading an overly smug edition of post up due to the lakers growing some big brass cojones (and rightfully so, that win in cleveland was big… Lamar bottled that anger from his precious 6th man role nice and good, now he’s letting everyone have a taste) and my girl asks me if i’ll ever tire off b-ball. A resounding never was my response. I scored 25 points two saturdays ago in league play, best offensive showing in 2 years, to follow it up with six points and numerous missed shots this past weekend. Talk about lowest of lows. Know what? I (34 and a gimpy left jumping knee) worked like hell on my shot tonight, getting ready for tomorrow’s game. There’s no money involved, no glory or fame, but i just love this game. (yeah, copyrighted slogan, sue me). Basketball IS life.

  • riggs

    ryan jones and his use of aryan death march in a NCAA game has won the Slammy Award for LOL of the day.

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    so it WAS Rihanna who got assaulted by CB? Is this confirmed? (like tigerbeat up in here, but this is juicy gossip)

  • http://fdjslkf.com Jukai

    First off, I’d like to acknowledge that this is one of my favorite post-ups ever, and it really brightened up my day.

  • http://fdjslkf.com Jukai

    Secondly, the Jones/Myles/Mongoloid exchange brightened up my day further.

  • http://fdjslkf.com Jukai

    Thirdly, watching my struggling Suns take out TAD’s struggling Pistons brightened my day YESTERDAY.
    I’m fluorescent at this point.

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    Roger Mason = Mario Elie 2009. Speechless at the “Aryan death match” quote. Don’t think anything’ll top that in a while.

  • http://www.hoopmixtape.com Simon S.Y Lawy

    now who’s da MVP, it’s KOBE.

  • matt the jazz fan

    moving away from the mtv quotes, holly, don’t you think that the reason l.o. got hot was because he had a rookie or an immobile big man guarding him, so he could grab offensive boards and make cuts to the basket without being bumped. meaning that this doesn’t translate into something that we can expect from l.o. against other teams, or even against celveland once hickson gets taught those two basic defensive skills?

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    Roy’s latest game winner was incredible. Usually up&under scoop layups are low percentage shots, but he made that look too easy

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

    co-sign BETCATS @ right fu(kin now

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

    Brandon Roy>>>Your Face

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

    WTF everybody?

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

    well i get comment #50. Time to stop post-wh0ring and prepare for spainish.

  • http://danchamb.com.br/Home/ Lz – Cphfinest3

    Dear Holly, normally I love your “Post Up’s” as I think you have a witty and steady pen. After ESPN’s daily dime TV your collum is the first place I go for NBA news, as I’m a basketball fanatic this bodes for my liking of your work. Today however you let me down, while I still liked your thoughts about the games. That whole “I love basketball”-intro was utterly boring and reminded me about a teenage girl talking about her pony. It’s all good and well that you love the game like that (I think just about everybody who frequents the SLAM-site have the same love for our game, I know I do) but imo you should write a long feature about your love (a la the “loveletter” to basketball thing SLAM had going a while back) instead of just making it into some small intro to your post, instead of disecting (s?) your love and really getting the topic rolling, it just appear like some quick rather superficial thoughts that only scratch the surface of an interesting topic and for this reader somewhat redundant of what you read about life-basketball (blablabla..) on “lesser” basketball sites. Hope you doesn’t take this critism the wrong way, but as a serious reader of yours I think it’s only just to not only hand out praise. Otherwise keep up the good work, and keep the Post Ups coming (missed you last week). Best regards Lz. PS: Congrats on your Lakers, hate to admit it but the sure looked like a Championship team last night.

  • JT$

    Holly ,great article, keep it up girl…Can’t wait for All Star Weekend, How bout Nash 21 assists, ridiculous… hopefully Colangelo will take me out of my misery and trade somebody, cause my Raps are WEAK…but Im not giving up on them.

  • j4zz m4n

    i love this game too….lakers great result last night…

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    LZ: If that was a challenge for Holly to write 7,000+ words on “why she loves basketball”, i’d take Holly in that bet 100 times out of 100.

  • RM

    Preach, holly! Preach.

  • http://danchamb.com.br/Home/ Lz – Cphfinest3

    TAD; No challenge, Holly would most def win 100 out of 100. Just thought the stuff was really boring to read. Constructive critism, feel free to disagree.

  • http://www.where-basketball-b-longs.blogspot.com/ B. Long

    I love that Holly brought “FTH” back.

  • vtrobot

    Thanks, Holly. Your writing is great. I loved when CWebb’s Kings played Nash and Dirk’s Mavs. Those were entertaining games and playoff matchups. Sort of like the Mavs/Suns games from two or three years ago. That Kings team should have won a championship except Horry and the refs got in the way.

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ Tariq al Haydar

    The game has given me amusement and entertainment and not much else. It hasn’t taught me any lessons.

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ Tariq al Haydar

    Also: Lakers, b*tches.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ Moose

    But, you know Tariq, sports don’t matter, right? *wink, wink*

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ Tariq al Haydar

    I wonder of Odom can win Finals MVP over Kobe. Probably not.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ Moose

    Tariq, they gotta get to the Finals in order to even have that discussion. First thing’s first.

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ Tariq al Haydar

    Moose:
    Exactly.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ Moose

    Thought you’d pick up on my SKO reference. You don’t read ‘B@chi, dude! You’re missing out! Just ask Eboy!

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ Tariq al Haydar

    Moose:
    A Laker championship is a foregone conclusion. *baits Eboy*

  • henry

    nice piece holly. ive enjoyed how grant hill payed against the warriors, and the past few games. maybe its been the weak defenses hes played, but all-star play out of g.hill over the past couple of games is always nice to see

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ Tariq al Haydar

    Moose:
    I did pick up on it. Nice.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ Moose

    A Laker chip is a foregone conclusion. Ha. Ha. Ha. Sounds like the Russell-era Celtics. Or the Yankees spending more money on free agents than the government is paying for the war in Iraq. Or at least half of it.

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ Tariq al Haydar

    FTH.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    Fellate the Hebrews?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    Found: Two Hairpins?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    Folly, Thy Humor?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    Figures They’d Hide

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ Moose

    To add to Ryan’s last comment: For The Hair?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    ?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    Fire Too Hot!

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ Moose

    Internet acronyms can be a real b*tch sometimes, can’t they, Ryan?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    Fox Takes Hen

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ Moose

    With the hairpins, yaknow? Anyways….I’m out. Math class!

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    Fine — Tell Her.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Fondle The Hose?

  • Jackie Moon

    Where’s the Lebron Bashing? I’ll start: 5 FG, 20 FGA.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    Technically, I think an acronym refers to initials that form an actual word — which FTH, to the best of my knowledge, is not.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    Figured This’d Happen?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    Shocked it took Eboy that long.
    And good point, Jackie. Here, let me help: He shot like crap in his team’s two reg-season match-ups with its most likely Finals opponent (assuming they get to the Finals, which is hardly a given). Disappointing.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    Find This Hilarious, do you Myles?

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Mike gets 38 on intraveneous/Kobe get’s 19 on his. Interesting.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    Mike never had Lamar Odom, Eboy.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Sorry Ryan…..actually working.

  • Jackie Moon

    Haha Eboy. Mike must be twice as good!

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    Alright, I’m going back to work now. Glad I could liven this joint up, though.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Oh yeah.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Finger The Hole???!!!

  • MeloMan13

    can someone please post the video of MELO destroying VC’s ankles??

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Furry Taco Holder?

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    ?

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Find

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    The

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Hundred!!!!!

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Found The Humor.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Fight The Hoe.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    Forced To Hide?

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    That was for Chris Brown.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    LMAO @ TAD.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Well….I don’t know about the herpes rumor….but would any of us not open our arms to her if she needs comfort?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    Forehead Too High.

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ Tariq al Haydar

    Ryan…

    Find Tariq Hot?

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Forget The Head.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Um, not if that rumor is true Eboy.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    To return to a brief moment of seriousness……besides the Lakers as a team, playing a really strong game….and Lamar pretending that he was an All-Star for a night…..was anyone else mildly dissapointed at the overhyped 24/Bron matchup that showed nothing worth a sh*t….really, from either of them.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    I referenced the rumor Mike BrownOne.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Felatio To Herpes.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Forget The Hype.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Ok, yes. That matchup was extremely overhyped and disappointing. I’m glad I didn’t watch!

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Such a liar…..you KNOW you were front and center from the tip, fu*ker. I think you wlaked away from the Suns/Pistons game early though.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    Far Too Humiliating?

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Nope, I was enjoying the beautiful 70 degree weather yesterday. I didn’t watch any ball yesterday other than the first half of the Pistons/Suns, which was all I needed to see.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Fuc*ing Shaq looked pretty good again.

  • jay

    One word…..ODOMINATION!!!! I know, I know.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Well, yeah. He had Kwame freakin Brown defending him. Nash with his 21 dimes was pretty f*cking embarassing. I’m am so not impressed with Curry and his coaching. Every time ESPN cut into his mic during timeouts, he would be saying things like “hey guys, we need to rebound” and “hey fellas, let’s defend the paint a little bit better.” Highly innovative and encouraging coaching, Michael! Thanks!

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Michael will not make another full season in Detroit…unless they can run to the Conference Finals. He’s pretty tepid.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    Good:
    Wally Z remembered that the only thing he does well on a basketball court is getting buckets.
    Cavs had TONS of open looks. (Phil said he was willing to live with Z shooting from the perimeter but I think that Mike Brown is pretty comfortable as well with his center shooting from midrange)
    Bad:
    LeBron missed at the rim. A lot. I’ve never seen that from him.
    LBJ needs to be surrounded by shooters in the crunch. Sorry, Andy. At full strenght, I’d go with Mo, West, Wally Z, LBJ and Z.
    JJ Hickson needs to learn how to box out. Fast.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    He is the most passive coach I have ever seen. And I’ve been saying it all year. he does everything Flip Saunders did maybe less

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ Tariq al Haydar

    I Find Tariq Hot.

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ Tariq al Haydar

    But that’s just me

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    Forget the Hornets

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Z….missing Pavlovic for 3 quarters was pretty damning for the Cavs too….and he needs to be on the floor at end game scenarios cause he can knock down j’s AND take and make off the dribble….much more effectivley than Wall-E.

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ Tariq al Haydar

    Z:
    Bron missed at the rim a lot because he always had a 7-foot help defender in his face when he inevitably blew by his man.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Granted, good coaches are made in game planning and practices, but Curry is certainly not winning any brownie points there, either. I wonder if we can kiss and make up with Flip?

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ Tariq al Haydar

    “Brownie points”… I never could get a grasp on that expression.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Poor TAD.

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ Tariq al Haydar

    I think the problem with the Pistons isn’t necessarily coaching per se. It’s more a case of they don’t seem to know what direction the franchise are heading in… Are they trying to win now? Are they in rebuilding mode? Are they trying to be a player in the summer of 2010? What?

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Can they be all of them at once?

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Yes, they can. However, the players didn’t get the memo.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    Yeah, Sasha can defend too. Oh, I forgot to mention: Gibson is basically useless when his confidence is shaky. He’s not a 1, he NEVER brings it up or sets up the O. So he’s a gunner. Well gunners don’t pass up open looks (ask Eddie House). You gotta have a short memory. I’d love for the Cavs to include him in some kind of deal to get a real backup pg that’s going to play 15 solid minutes a night at the 1.

  • whooo!

    i thought the spurs/celtics game was a much better game than the 2nd matchup. mason w/ a clutch 3, ray allen with a terrible inbound mistake, and freakin matt bonner? who?

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    And has anyone else noticed how often Allen Iverson makes a dribble move right infront of his own teammate like 5-8 times a game? The teammate is standing wide-open but allen just makes crazy dribble moves and shoots a fadeaway or a runner. Granted its how he has scored his whole career but he has never done it on a team without any resemblance of what spacing even means. Its frustrating even when you want the opposing team to win.

  • http://hoops4life.com overtime

    Brilliant Post Up Holly, i echo your sentiments exactly.
    As for C-Webb, the first live NBA game i ever saw was him crushing San Antonio back in the day, i love this man
    (he was always MVP for my Dynasty Kings on NBA live 04)

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    Sheed is planting the seeds for his departure. He’s basically saying : it’s aight if they ship me out and it’s aight if they don’t.

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ Tariq al Haydar

    If I were Joe Dumars I’d be on the phone right now offering the Suns his kidneys for Amar’e.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Wow, not that serious Tariq. I’d be willing to give them Kwame Brown’s donor card, though.

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ Tariq al Haydar

    TAD,

    I don’t know. Look at Billups’s resurgence in Denver. It seems that the Pistons who have rings need new challenges. As much as I love Sheed, he has looked disinterested for a couple of years. And I don’t like Rip and Iverson on the same team. Plus Amar’e can be the face of the franchise. I say go for it…

    Stuckey – Iverson – Prince – Amar’e – Amir/Dice is a pretty good starting 5.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    Tarip How the F would Detroit have all those players with Amar’e? HAHA they have to give up more then just Sheed to get him

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ Tariq al Haydar

    nbk:
    Sheed and Rip

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ Tariq al Haydar

    Although the Suns want young players + salary cap relief… not 2 veterans. Still, I’d offer Phoenix that.

    P.S.
    HAHA nbk.

  • http://www.kicksonfire.com Anton

    Holly’s words tug at the seams of my soul

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ Tariq al Haydar

    The only untouchable Piston would be Stuckey.

  • http://www.kicksonfire.com Anton

    F*cked The Horse

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    Hmm I don’t know about that considering we just traded for J rich, we have barbosa, hill and matt barnes. Don’t think that would make any sense

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ Tariq al Haydar

    OK, nbk… Consider this:
    the Suns want young players and cap relief for Amar’e, right?

    I propose:
    Rasheed Wallace and Amir Johnson fo Amar’e Stoudemire.

    Amir is a promising young player and Sheed’s contract expires at the end of the season.

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ Tariq al Haydar

    Detroit, in turn, stick with Rip and Stuckey and allow Iverson to join my Lakers next season.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Tariq…NBK…..when you guys say “we” and “my” when referencing the Suns and the Lakers….does that mean you two draw checks from the team as consultants of some form? Just wondering.

  • http://www.where-basketball-b-longs.blogspot.com/ B. Long

    Damn job. I missed all the fun. :(

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    I suppose I understand why the Kings retired Webber’s number. And it’s perfectly OK that they retire Vlade’s number too (although I hope his banner just has a big cigarette on it). That said, it’s kind of funny to me that the Kings will retire the same amount of numbers (two) from a team that never even made it to the NBA Finals as the Bulls did for a team that won six championships. Maybe the Bulls should retire 5, 7, 10, 13, 24, 25, 54 and 91 soon.

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ Tariq al Haydar

    Eboy:
    Yes. I get a check. I actually didn’t say “we”. I said “my” Lakers since they’re, you know, my team.

  • http://www.kicksonfire.com Anton

    Co-sign the 91 comment.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    My problem with that is the suns are essentially “renting” Rasheed for a year, and taking their chances on Amir. My main problem is that its such a huge risk, especially with Sheed. The suns would need to get draft picks and McDyess- Can he be traded again?

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    Ive been a season ticket holder for longer then ive been alive. So I say we because Phx collects such a big portion of my money

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    My dad has had season tickets for 26 years, I am 21…to save confusion

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Glad to hear it. Perhaps you should brush up on your English reading skils as well, T.

  • http://www.where-basketball-b-longs.blogspot.com/ B. Long

    Eboy just doesn’t like it when real fans say “we” or “my” because he has admitted to rooting for the Bulls, Lakers, Heat, Cavs, and the Ft. Lauderdale Flying Squirels so if he was to say “my” you’d have no idea who he was talking about.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    hahaha

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    It’s weird that Russ would compare a team to the Jordan-era Bulls.

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ Tariq al Haydar

    nbk:
    But I think that trading for Sheed would be desirable precisely because they’d be “renting” him. His expiring contract gives the Suns the cap relief they want.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Yes…..it is nice to root for someone that never pussied out in an NBA Finals (see: Michael Jordan/Dwyane Wade). But B is a fan of bitch basketball and hairstyles…so it’s a tough out for the kid.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    But they are taking that Cap relief ASSUMING Amir is a good PF prospect worth giving up Amar’e for? The only reason they want cap space is to be able to make a splash but that splash would presumably be comparable to amar’e right? Thats putting a lot of eggs into the FA basket without actually having that much money. (unless they are going to rent Sheed for another year, then have all that money from Shaq and Nash, then maybe)

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ Tariq al Haydar

    Eboy:
    Seriously? I need to brush up on my reading skill’s, Eboy. Thats like pot’s calling kettle’s black.

  • Myung

    Speaking of retired jerseys, are we ever going to see the Hornets retire Zo (#33) and LJ (#2)? I guess two points would be 1. Did they do enough for the franchise to deserve a retired jersey and 2. Is the current Hornets franchise (from Charlotte to New Orleans/Oklahoma City to New Orleans) the same Hornets franchise that played in Charlotte (of Rex Chapman, Kelly Tripucka, Dell Curry fame) back in the 90′s? I’m pretty sure they are, right? I notice Melvin Ely is currently #33. I know neither of those two guys spent a ton of seasons in Charlotte, but when I look back on their careers, I think of them as Hornets, as opposed to a Knick and Heat (eboy probably disagrees?), respectively. Just thought I’d throw that out there.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Seriously.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    I think of ZO as a memeber of the Heat…their legacy in Charlotte was too miniscule to consider retiring either of their jerseys. Now, Hersey Hawkins………..

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ Tariq al Haydar

    nbk:
    You have a point. I don’t like the idea of trading Amar’e either. But I’m saying the Suns have said that they want cap relief + young players for Amar’e, and Sheed gives them the first half of that equation. As for Amir…yeah, he’s not necessarily a surefire prospect, but if you’re married to the idea of trading Stoudemire, can you get a better deal?

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    *member

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ Tariq al Haydar

    LOL @ Eboy breaking out “miniscule”.

  • Myung

    Didn’t the Heat retire Michael Jordan’s #23, eboy?

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    Well if they can get Beasley and Marion from Miami that should be priority number 1 – if they can get Bosh then thats priority number 2 -
    Detroit and Chicago would be interchangeable at number 3 depending on prospects received and money and cap.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Well…..yes and no, Myung. It was done out of reverence…not for an all-time lockdown. I think if D-Wade made the condition of “I’ll stay a Heat player in 2010 if I can wear #23″ that sh*t would be down faster than Rhianna after a Chris Brown right. They did it for Dan Marino too….but it’s all PR stupidity.

  • Myung

    I can understand why you consider Zo a Heat (“a Heat?”) over being a Hornet; I guess I just look back fondly to the early days of the Hornets and just remember Zo, LJ, and Kendall Gill putting Charlotte on the map.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    yeah they did Myung

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Mugsy?

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Kedall Gill’s fade was always perfectly manicured.

  • http://www.alllooksame.com Tarzan Cooper

    holly, do you even play basketball, you talk all this stuff about your heart in basketball and life and all that. do you even play? in the rain? in 38 degrees? in 105 degrees?

  • http://www.where-basketball-b-longs.blogspot.com/ B. Long

    Larry Johnson was the shiznizzle snip snap bizzle. I miss Grandmama.

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ Tariq al Haydar

    nbk:
    Yeah, that Miami deal would be much better, but how would Marion fit back in Phoenix? I guess it doesn’t matter since his contract expires as well. As for Bosh, the Raps wouldn’t let him go, would they?

  • Myung

    Russ mentioned Vlade up there; I think the Lakers should retire his #12, strictly based on the fact that they got #8 (and later #24) because of #12. Easily one of the top 10 worst trades in sports history…

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    Tarzan I think I know people that are 60 years, old, some people that just dont have time to play that love basketball and can’t play or don’t. She does not have to play to love it.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Tariq: Well my man, you haven’t been around these parts much lately. I’ve actually been saying since the news hit the interwebs last Friday that Dumars should be on the phone with Kerr that day offering different trade scenarios for Amare. I’m an Amare fan despite some of the negativity and indifference he gets from posters on this site. The Pistons actually have an extra 1st round pick and 3 extra 2nd round picks coming up in the next two drafts, so it wouldn’t be crazy for them to offer up Sheed, Amir, and picks or Sheed, Maxiell, and Afflalo or Sheed, Maxiell, and picks. Honestly, Kerr is out there trying to get what he can. A deal is going to be made, it just depends on Kerr’s feeling at the time to determine who will come out with Amare’s services.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    Marion would fit in better then Amar’e because he grabs all the rebounds shaq doesn’t and marion can shoot the three (not really but he thinks he can) which spreads the court. Marion in a way fits much better then Amar’e and would have made more sense to stay. If we get him we basically got Beasley and Shaq for Amar’e. WHich in my eyes is a steal.

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ Tariq al Haydar

    i meant how would Marion fit in the locker room.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    I wish the Shawn Marion that nbk is referencing, making threes and grabbing enourmous amounts of rebounds, would have shown his face in Miami from game to game.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    And Toronto would be willing to go Amar’e and LB for Bosh and Moon I think. Or Bosh and Kapono and a pick maybe, Kapono is not worth much because of his contract but for Toronto to give up Bosh, Colangelo would have to get his boy LB back in the deal

  • http://slamonline.com Holly MacKenzie

    Tarzan, I’ve never played a game of basketball in my life. Ever.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    He would be happier then he is in MIami Tariq, thats all that matters. And Eboy, Marion can never ever do those things with an elite scoring guard, it takes away to much of his movement. Shaq is different because he is actually a good passer who is not afraid to his cutters. But Marion is not who really matters in the trade its the fact that Beasley could (doubtful) be better then Amar’e and the Suns will have Money to resign him.

  • http://www.where-basketball-b-longs.blogspot.com/ B. Long

    Holly, Forgive The Hermapherdites.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    I don’t think the Heat are that hot (pardon the pun) for Amare. I know they are working harder to see if Bosh can be pried free, regardless of the smoke signals in Toronto. Dwyane really likes Bosh.

  • http://www.where-basketball-b-longs.blogspot.com/ B. Long

    I don’t think I spelled that last word right.

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ Tariq al Haydar

    I’ve never played either. I am, however, a stud.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    I think Marion and Beasley for Bosh would be the smartest thing either team can do. Except Toronto would have to give up another piece to mach salaries

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    And yeah…..if the Heat stay put….not moving for more than just JO and fodder…..you might just see that MJ #23 jersey come down when a certain Mr. James takes his game to MIA in 2010.

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ Tariq al Haydar

    It would be weird for Beasley to be traded so early in his career.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    Eboy your a lawyer right? College Educated you know that LeBron will only leave for the Mecca. He is not leaving cleveland for miami, I mean it is good to wish but come now its Home or Home for LeBron those are his only options (as he sees)

  • http://www.where-basketball-b-longs.blogspot.com/ B. Long

    I wonder if the Heat are going to retire #24 too. You know, in reverence. :)

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    Tariq its what happened with Chris Webber except Beasley is expendable for a top 5 pf not unhappy like C-Webb

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ Tariq al Haydar

    Yeah, I know.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    Al Jefferson is out with a torn ACL

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    nbk……Miami is not the shi*hole that Cleveland is……and the ability to draw revenue would be unlimited with him and Wade on the same squad. Plus, they could cause Kobe to retire early….if anyone payed attention to how they clowned the Kobester’s warmup suit during the Olympics….don’t think both of them would love to wreak havoc on dude on the court too. it’s not disrespect to Kobe….it’s more of a changing of the guard that might win the two of them a hadful of titles together. (fine, some of this is daydreaming on a boring Monday…but there is the possibility of it being factual and we all saw how popular the Heat became for a couple of seasons with a havily aged Shaq in town so…..if Lebron came here….you might as well forget about it)

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    *handful

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    *heavily

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Man, that sucks for Al.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    If we comparing sh*tholes, I guess Detroit doesn’t have a shot (even though they play in the suburbs).

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    But in better news…..the Kevin Love ROY campaign will start…….NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Auburn Hills is luxurious.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    I expect Myles along shortly to speak a few words on his fallen soldier…

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    Eboy if LeBron and Wade are to play on a team together Wade will have to leave Miami. Miami has Beasley now and will have to pay him soon enough, plus Cleveland is already set up to extend LBJ and sign another max player. It just would not make any sense for LeBron to leave a contender for a developing team w/ a star. It would make more sense for Wade to leave, and if they are conspiring to play together and make Kobe retire they would surely realize the situation in Cleveland is more suited to winning now. Things can change by 2010 but from a financial stand point Miami does not make sense for LeBron simply because other places are better fits.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    The Palace in Auburn Hills was built in ’89, which makes it ancient in todays NBA.

  • Myung

    Seriously, really sucks for Al Jefferson; Kevin Love’s #’s will definitely go up (and it will look even sillier that he’s not on the Rookie team’s roster). Minnesota was playing a lot better ever since McHale took over as coach; now I expect them to trade Mike Miller ASAP, give Love a ton of minutes, and go into full blown tank mode.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    In fact the average attendance at a cleveland cavaliers home game is larger then Miami can fit in their building

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    The good news is OJ Mayo can start showing his worth on the court!

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    that didn’t make sense

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    I’m sick. I’m not supposed to make sense.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    I assume you meant Kevin Love right?

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    No, it was sarcasm. Barkley will be back after All Star, BTW.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    I’m going to grow some hair. Then I’m going to rip it out.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    They are bringing Barkley BACK? After he was going to “get the best head of his life” I though they would try and make the mailman is replacement even though dude is too country

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Poor Myles. Luckily he roots for two squads.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    I do wonder how this will affect the team. They were just beginning to believe in themselves and I think they needed to continue to build that confidence by competing. Of course they dont really have a chance now, but I dont know if another high draft pick is worth sending this team practically back to square one. Well see.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    Myles your referring to Minnesota? Aren’t they still in square one trying to claw their way out? I think once they rid themselves of Mike Miller and find a permanent core group – foye, love, jefferson is a good start but they need another all star. Hopefully for their sake they can grab Griffin or Rubio in the draft. Or someone who fits into their futuristic plans

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    High draft pick? Who are they going to consider trading? Or do you mean they will be tanking the rest of the season?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    They dont have to intentionally tank. Any lineup without Al is a guaranteed loss. And while they werent far from it, I dont think they were on square one. Players were finally starting to get healthy, define their roles and show some chemistry. Kevin McHale was Coach of the Month in January. Kevin McHale. Maybe this will force a trade, but Im still not sure what kind of market there is out ther for Mike Miller and Rashad McCants. Even Randy Foye. And I thought Rubio wasnt coming out?

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    Rubio has a big buy-out with DKV but it is still up in the air. McCants has a lot more worth then you would expect from what I’ve read, and Miller is always going to be a hot commodity because he can shoot. I do not see why cleveland and Minnesota has not made a deal switching wally for miller. Unless that hints that Cleveland might have a Pau Gasol type deal in the works for Wally.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    What the hell have you been reading, the Carolina school newspaper, nbk?

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    Lol about McCants? He would be good for a contender that needs a scoring spark off the bench. Which is not completely good but its better then I expected. I would put McCants on a Matt Carrol/Adam Morrison level, instead of a contributor off the bench for a contender.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Matt Carrol/Adam Morrison level? Is that a compliment?

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    No that is a bad thing, Those two are never talked about as possible contributors or trade partenrs for contenders. (granted morrison just went to LA, but that was to rid them of Rad-i wear vans to practice-monovic) I am not saying McCants is worth a lot or anything but more then I expected

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    McCants has an over-inflated self worth. When I read his interview with Caputo, I laughed myself to tears.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    I did not read that

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    Yeah, McCants sees himself as a 20 ppg scorer that’s not being given a fair chance to produce. I’d have to respectfully disagree. Ferry needs to get on the phone. Like now.
    a) Mike Miller for Wally Z and change.
    b)Camby for Wally’s expiring and JJ or (reluctantly) Andy?

  • http://www.kicksonfire.com Anton

    Camby would be great but I say replace Big Ben. $16 million for getting 2 points 8 rebounds a game?

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Nobody wants to deal with McCants’ ego or listen to his crappy poetry. And Minnesota knows how overpaid Wally is, the fans would be so pissed if they brought his scrub ass back.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    I think Kaman is far more likely to be traded than Camby, The Clips really do ahve a solid core group. But Kaveman may not get healthy before the trade deadline. I’ve even heard runors that he’s been “faking it” or atleast exagerrating it seriousness in order to avoid getting traded.

  • Jackie Moon

    Remember when everyone was giving B.Long a hard time because he said Ariza could guard James, and everyone referenced some high school game?

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    Ciolk- MInnesota would actually be getting the better player (this season) and they get the expiring contract which is huge in this economy. If the fans are upset it won’t last long, and thats why they are fans not gm’s

  • http://www.where-basketball-b-longs.blogspot.com/ B. Long

    @Jackie:Ryan Jones remembers.

  • chintao

    I hope Webber is better at life than he is at basketball. He should be, right? There are no timeouts in life. Seriously though, I have a hard time with this guy having his jersey retired. Can someone make the argument for me?

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    @ jackie, ariza didnt do anything to bron yesterday. seriously. those were missed shots, bron had the same looks he’s always having against LA.

  • Jackie Moon

    @Z – Yeah, but he blocked that three of LBJs pretty clean. Just one play, but still, for all the derision B.Long got just for suggesting Ariza could guard LBJ, Ariza did a decent job.

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