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Thursday, February 19th, 2009 at 11:00 am  |  213 responses

The VC ‘Giveaway’

by Marcel Mutoni

Not sure if you’ve heard, but today is the NBA’s trade deadline. And Nets GM Rod Thorn is on the clock; at least, that’s the way rival GMs see it.

As far as the rest of the League’s front offices are concerned, the Nets have little choice but to dump Vince Carter’s large salary. The Star-Ledger has more:

The greatest factor is perception: Every GM in the league ended their business day Wednesday believing that Rod Thorn has no other choice but to go into dump mode, and that he’ll be willing to take back virtually nothing but expiring contracts in exchange for Carter. An ESPN report even quoted two of these executives, each of whom stated that the Nets are trying to “give Carter away.”

Remarkably, Thorn didn’t exactly deny it when asked to comment on that perception, but he gave it his own spin. “I’ve always said you do trades for two reasons,” the Nets president said Wednesday night before the Nets faced the Mavericks. “You do them for the present, or you do them for what’s best moving forward. Those are the only two reasons, as far as I’m concerned.”

Business-wise, it makes sense for the Nets to dump Carter and his massive salary (at age 32, he’s slated to make $33 mil over the next two seasons.) They simply can’t afford him.

Should they pull the trigger, the question will then become, Will the fans understand?

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  • http://www.friendster.com/sesa Sesa

    Hey, It’s better than the Nets declared bankruptcy

  • kane

    KAREEM COOPER QUIT THE UTEP BASKETBALL TEAM

  • finest hour

    spurs

  • k1d Crush

    trade aaron brooks for vc

  • http://www.another48minutes.blogspot.com Gerard Himself

    Well, there’s been talking all day about the Blazers, and the latest rumors don’t even involve Travis Outlaw anymore. It would just be Carter and Ager for Fry and LaFrentz. Which doesn’t make this Nets fan all too happy. I really like Travis Outlaw, he would be a great addition to the team we have NOW. I really hope nothing happens with the Nets….. there were also rumors in also dealing CDR to the Blazers, but for some reason, I like that kidm so I hope he sticks around.

  • http://www.another48minutes.blogspot.com Gerard Himself

    finest hour: won’t happen.

  • kane

    UR CRAZY!!!!!! AARON BROOKS IS UR DADDY!!!!

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    this seems to be a false. They would have done it already if it were true.

  • riggs

    as a former fan, i can say there will be an uproar

  • Jer Boi

    get SOMETHING at least…1st rnd a pick from a bad team..SOMETHING..don’t make it like the Camby trade the nuggets did

  • k1d Crush

    give the whole rockets team even the coach for vc

  • kane

    EY RIGGS!! JER BOI BETCATS TEXT THIS NUMBER
    3299129

  • http://lastknickstanding.blogspot.com Bryan

    Vc to the knicks for curry and jeffries.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    wtf @ kane?

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    VC to the Seattle Supersonics for Vin Baker and Dana Barros.

  • k1d Crush

    i think the thunder should make a run at vc… they already lost chandler anyways..

  • riggs

    lol, what the hell?

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Vince to the Nuggets for Robert Pack and LaPhonso Ellis.

  • Cizzo

    Other than financial puposes this trade has no impact on the basketball universe sooooooooooooooo……….

  • Joe

    @Eboy: I think you gotta thow in Bryant Stith to get the salaries to match-up evenly

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Probably right, Joe.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    Eboy stealing my retro team trade idea. Phuck you Joke Stealer!

  • http://www.another48minutes.blogspot.com Gerard Himself

    k1d: the Thunder? Are you kidding me? The Thunder need more of a Raja Bell type of shooting guard.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Mine was better, syrupboy.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    mine came first, eboy.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    LaPhonso Ellis = one of the greatest names EVA!
    Robert Pack could get up too!

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    Its like saying what came first the chicken or the egg. If the chicken had down syndrome but still came first, is the egg first by default? NO

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    I DID like E’s trade better for whatever that worth

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    for JJ and Wally?

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    *YAWN* Wake me when it is 3 pm EST please. Thanks.

  • http://docfunk.blogspot.com Doc Funk

    The time the Nets should be pulling a trigger is to euthanize Stromile Swift.

  • Andy

    How does Vince for T-Mac work out? Hey, just wondering…

  • http://LATESTCRY.WORDPRESS.COM akimana

    HA BETCATS joke has down syndrome!

  • Scott

    So many teams are gonna be shooting themselves in a couple years if they keep giving away players to save money…

  • Jacob

    somehow in a weird way I just have the feeling that VC is going to cleveland I am probably wrong but thats just what I think

  • http://lastknickstanding.blogspot.com Bryan

    Everyone is gonna be f*cked when every 2010 free agent stays right where they are.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Chris McCosky / The Detroit News
    AUBURN HILLS — All remains quiet at Pistons headquarters.

    Pistons president Joe Dumars was manning his phones Thursday morning but no deal was imminent or expected before the 3 p.m. deadline.

    That’s not to say it was quiet elsewhere.

    The Cleveland Cavaliers were in discussions with Phoenix. The Cavaliers are offering Ben Wallace and Sasha Pavlovic for Shaquille O’Neal, according to league sources.

    The Cavs are also talking to Milwaukee, offering Wally Szczerbiak and his $13 million expiring contract for Richard Jefferson

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    GREASE LIGHTING GO!

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    If the Cavs do Tad’s trade, they would win a chip. A Shaq-Z-Lebron/RJ-Mo Williams lineup is unguardable

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    If the Cavs somehow get Shaq…..everything is going to go to sh*t in this seasons prediction race.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Not my trade BET, it’s what has been reported in Detroit.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    oh. I hope Larry Hughes gets traded to a team that will use him.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    I tyhink Cleveland is going to make some kind of deal. Danny Ferry has been working his ass off.

  • SK

    Why did they even sign him to a guaranteed 4 year $66 million extension two summers ago? Did they not know how old he’d be 2 years later? He’s still playing well, but I think everyone then knew that the deal he signed would not help Jersey down the road.
    It’ll be interesting to see how many guys become available for trades in the next year or two, and whether anybody will go near their contracts. The economy might not be much better in 2010.

  • http://idunkonthem.blogspot.com/ albie1kenobi

    if shaq gets traded to the cavs, i’m all for the cavs/lakers final. NBA is gonna do all it can to rig the playoffs to make that happen too, like the all-star weekend.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    the NBA rigs everything. They even staged the moon landing in ’69. Fight the power!

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Is Shaq goes to Cleveland and they win it, wouldn’t it make him the ultimate ring whore? But I would love to see him snatch one more chacne at a ring from Kobe.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    no. Robert Horry and James Posey are ring wh0res. Shaq is just a winner.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    BREAKING NEWS************Rashad McCants and Calvin Booth in return for Shelden Williams and Bobby Brown******************** Yeah.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    who?

  • riggs

    is tina included in that deal eboy?

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    I know.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Is that true, E? I’m trying to think of 4 players I care less about…

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    My comment didn’t appear. WTF? Anyway, does Z or Shaq play PF?

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Yeah…..I was actually looking at Chad Ford’s live trade blog and he just reported it as being done.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    BREAKING NEWS***** The youngest Maloof brother got traded for Donald Trumps accountant.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Myles should enjoy seeing Candice in Minny.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Off topic, but I’m going to Veags in 1 week and its all i can think about.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Apparently, ciol’s bank account isn’t in a recession.

  • http://www.kicksonfire.com Anton

    Ladies and gentleman, the Cleveland Cavaliers!!!!

  • riggs

    chris mihm traded to memphis, DJ Mbenga appeared to be scream “tacosss” when he heard

  • riggs

    screaming*

  • http://idunkonthem.blogspot.com/ albie1kenobi

    i think from now on, GM’s need to explain why they make deals. i mean, what’s the point of trading a basket of fries for some onion rings?

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    where’s my comment?

  • http://idunkonthem.blogspot.com/ albie1kenobi

    hmmm. i think i’ll some frings for lunch.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    Tad- my guess is Z will PF it up because he is more of a jump shooter.

  • http://www.kicksonfire.com Anton

    Oh man Shaq Daddy with the Cavs would be epic, imagine the look on 24′s face

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Exactly Anton

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    I bet Stern is on the phone right now trying to make it happen

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    i bet Stern is on the phone right now…ordering Chinese for lunch.

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    Myles will just be happy Shaddy is gone.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Everytime someone types Shaddy, I keep thinking i’m reading ‘Sh*tty’. Fits, I guess.

  • http://www.kicksonfire.com Anton

    Less than 2 hours left in the madness!!!!

  • http://www.toronto.com Mr. 416

    They got vince for nothing ( 2 williams, and Alonzo Mourning who never reported to the team) so they have to give him up for nothing in return.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    what madness? 1 deal has been done. This is a all bark no bite day.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    It has been preety boring BET

  • http://lastknickstanding.blogspot.com Bryan

    This is like the trade deadline from 2 years ago.

  • http://www.kicksonfire.com Anton

    madness = speculation. Cavs will make a move

  • riggs

    someone pass BET a pillow

  • http://www.toronto.com Mr. 416

    if Jalen Rose was still in the L he would be traded today. How many deadline day deals was he in ?

  • http://fdklsf.com Jukai

    How insane would it be if the Cavs trade Sasha and Ben for Shaq… and then trade Wally for Carter? Mo/Vince/Lebron/Shaq/Big Z! Hello!

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    Jukai that line up would be raw. It wont happen though.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    BREAKING NEWS************again**** Larry Hughes for Tim Thomas and Jerome James, pending league approval.**********************

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    Also, if Larry Hughes returned to the Cavs, good things would occur.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    Eboy, Jerome James is out for the year. How will he pass a physical?

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    I don’t know who that sh*t works, BET.

  • riggs

    jerome james got hurt again? i thought he just came back BET

  • http://www.kicksonfire.com Anton

    I just want to see the look on 24′s face when they play them for the first time with Shaq…and Diesel would have that smiling grin “we’re good, right bro?” look on his face. lol

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    is being “too fat” considerefd an injury?

  • http://fdklsf.com Jukai

    Eboy: The team can choose to waive the physicals if they want to. Clearly, the Hornets did not want to waive the physical.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    I don’t think the Shaq trade’s happening.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    well if ESPN trade machine says it works then it must be true…

  • http://www.kicksonfire.com Anton

    1.5 hours

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Thanks, Jukai. It sounds like Richard Jefferson might be the Cavs deal.

  • http://www.kicksonfire.com Anton

    Why must you crush my dreams :(

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    I don’t think the Shaq deal is happening either, but I expect Cleveland to make some type of move.

  • http://www.kicksonfire.com Anton

    No man, they’re gonna pull an Amare of Tha Carter out of the hate at the last minute.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    I dont think the Vince trade happens or the Baron Davis trade or the Richard Jefferson trade.

  • riggs

    ill be back after deadline, this sh*t is getting annoying.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    also the Celtics, Trail Blazers, and Suns will not trade anything today. Bank it.

  • http://www.kicksonfire.com Anton

    *out of the HAT, no hate

  • http://fdklsf.com Jukai

    I know this sounds odd, but I’d rather have Wally World then Vince Carter on Cleveland. A guy who can hit spot-up threes is better than a guy who thinks he can hit spot-up threes.

  • http://www.kicksonfire.com Anton

    YOU KNOW NOTHING

  • http://www.kicksonfire.com Anton

    MORE BREAKING NEWS******: Cavs Trade Gibson for Sack of Potatoes
    “As the trade deadline approaches, teams are getting desperate to clear cap room in these tough economic times.
    One GM is taking it further. “Look at the guy, my dog has a better 3 point shot and he’s been dead for years!” Cavaliers’ General Manager Danny Ferry said. “Realistically, it saves us money…plus, I’m pretty sure the sack of potatoes doesn’t turn the ball over every single time”.
    While the Cavs are rumored to be interested in big names such as Amare Stoudemire, Marcus Camby, and Antawn Jamison, perhaps all they really needed was a thick sack of potatoes to plug up the lane.
    “I’ve seen him play” Ben Wallace adds, “Sack’s a solid defender and takes charges well. It’ll be a shamockery if we don’t win a title this year””

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    I KNOW EVERYTHING

  • http://www.kicksonfire.com Anton

    if nothing happens i’m throwing myself out the window
    head first
    live on the internet

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    Didnt you post that yesterday?

  • http://www.kicksonfire.com Anton

    3 team trade in the works…

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    We’ve got Larry Hughes ya’ll!

  • http://www.kicksonfire.com Anton

    yeah but then i realized it was in the fail Bulls trade topic

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    Z who is we? Are you a Cavs fan like i suspected or a knicks fan? Why am i so confused

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    nobody beats the biz!

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Zs a Knicks fan. E “reported” Hughes to the Knicks for Tim Thomas and Jerome James’ Foreman Grill.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    BETCATS, neither. I don’t have teams in basketball. I root for LeBron, KG, Bosh. In that order. That was a joke on Steph saying ‘we got zach randolph, ya’ll!”

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    BREAKING******Malik Rose for Chris Wilcox******** What’s up with all these garbage trades?

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Garbage economy=Garbage trades.

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    Hughes for Tim Thomas / Jerome James, too.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    I’m actually happy now that Amare is off the market that Detroit is standing pat. May as well go down with the ship and get a lottery pick.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    why is this day so<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    A lottery pick? Are they planning to tank the last 30 games?

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    The Chicago / Kings trade… I don’t see how either team will conceivably improve by trading mediocrity with mediocrity. Salary motivations, I think? But that still means they both will stink just as much in the meantime…

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Have you not been paying attention E?

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    @TAD: If Detroit’s gonna tank this season and try and pick up some talent, what do you see them doing with AI? It’d be a waste to just let him go…

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    Cavs must do something. Chemistry could be shaky after the deadline when basically half of the roster was proposed in various deal.s

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Yeah…..but they ain’t going to spiral all the way down to lottery status. They can f*ck around and lose half of their games and STILL get the 8th spot. Actually….the Heat might do that too.

  • http://www.kicksonfire.com Anton

    @ Jukai: yes, Wally’s straight up balling with…10 ppg?
    GTFO

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    Right, because as much as they East has kinda gotten better, they’re still a top-heavy conference. Look at the ASG this year; outside of the Cleveland / Boston / Orlando contingent, everyone else on that team came from middle-of-the-road or bottom feeder teams.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    Eboy has used too much ecstasy if he thinks the heat can loose 1/2 their last games and still make the playoffs.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    That means they’d have 42 wins BEt….I bet you an empty syrup bottle filled with my splooge they would still make it.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    50 minutes…………

  • http://www.another48minutes.blogspot.com Gerard Himself

    I actually like the Rose-Wilcox trade. Good for the Knicks, Wilcox can play.

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    RE: Jukai’s comment on VC: Cleveland doesn’t need VC. Wally is paid to take open jumpers, and when he’s made to do just that – not “be the spark off the bench” or post up or be a playmaker, Mike Brown – he does it well. The Cavs don’t need VC to win it all, they possibly need another role player or two, but I think they’ve reached a good equilibrium with the Mo Williams – Lebron duo.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    For clarifications sake, here is the Pistons next 7 games:
    -
    Thursday — vs. San Antonio (35-17), 8 p.m.

    Sunday — at Cleveland (40-11), 8 p.m.

    Tuesday — at Miami (28-24), 7:30 p.m.

    Wednesday — at New Orleans (31-20), 8 p.m.

    Friday, Feb. 27 — at Orlando (39-13), 7 p.m.

    Sunday, March 1 — at Boston (44-11), 1 p.m.

    Tuesday, March 3 — vs. Denver (36-17), 7:30 p.m.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Uhm…………..they could conceivably lose all 7.

  • http://idunkonthem.blogspot.com/ albie1kenobi

    i love how all of these trades are financial decisions. in that case can we also see the contracts too so maybe we can make a little bit of sense out of these nonsense?

  • http://www.kicksonfire.com Anton

    He’s not exactly superstar caliber, but would help the bench players immensely. Not a bad defender and would be able to maintain double digit leads while playing with the bench.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    I see one, maybe two, wins in that grouping. If we lose all 7 (a good possibility), Detroit will be 5 games under .500 and on an 11 game losing streak. Bottom line: faith has left the building.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    Sh… they might lose em all.

  • http://idunkonthem.blogspot.com/ albie1kenobi

    deeeeetroit baaaaasketball

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    Still no VC, Shaq, Baron Davis, Richard Jefferson, Celtics, Trail Blazers, or Suns trades. I WIN

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    Iverson’s legacy will be hurt by the stints in Detroit and Denver. Chauncey is exposing him as a guy that makes your team better. (talent was never a question) I mean he’s still a first-ballot HOF, the deadliest little dude in the history of the L and all. Next year, he’ll be on his 4th team… that’s a lot.

  • http://www.kicksonfire.com Anton

    It’s not the number of teams a player has been on, but what he was able to accomplish on those teams.
    Final answer indeed.

  • http://www.kicksonfire.com Anton

    betcats if you don’t shut up i’ll break your other ankle

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    Superstars are not supposed to get bounced around. This will affect Shaq’s legacy as well. After all, if you’re that great, teams should do everything they can to retain your services.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    anton arent you french? You would surrender before the fight began.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    shaq aint going no where

  • http://lastknickstanding.blogspot.com Bryan

    I like Larry Hughes and I think this move to New York will light a fire under his ass. We might see a poor man’s washington larry hughes.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Shia has high hopes for a career case of blue balls doing something worthwhile.

  • http://www.kicksonfire.com Anton

    nope, hate Montreal.
    Danny Ferry… WITH NO REGARD FOR EXPIRING CONTRACTS!!!!

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Hey, if Nate Robinson can get near trip-dubs and David Lee can lead the league in double/doubles, then D’Antoni might be able to coax something out of Hughes.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Lil Nate to Sacto?

  • http://www.another48minutes.blogspot.com Gerard Himself

    Isn’t Hughes going to be the third or fourth guard in the rotation, with Duhon, Nate, Q and sometimes even Chandler playing SG?

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    That’s also being discussed for Kenny Thomas for Jared Jeffries and Nate, to clear cap space.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    from ESPN “Chad Ford: Spies in New Jersey say it looks like Vince Carter will finish the season as a Net. With just 45 minutes to go before the trade deadline, trade talks have stalled with Carter. It’s not impossible that things heat up right toward the end. It’s happened before. But right now the odds are strongly in favor of Carter remaining in New Jersey unless their owner, Bruce Ratner, comes back to management and tells them to dump him at any cost.”

  • http://lastknickstanding.blogspot.com Bryan

    A ball movement uptempo system works for him see his time in golden state and washington. I like what the knicks are doing right now, Wilcox and Hughes are an upgrade a lineup of Duhon,Hughes,Q, Harrington and Lee is decent in the east. And with Wilcox, Chandler and Lil Nate off the bench the knicks might make a late playoff push.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Donnie Walsh is washing his hands clean of Isiah. His damn skin is going to be raw soon.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Sure, Shia.

  • http://www.kicksonfire.com Anton

    Well as it stands Diesel’s won titles with half the teams he’s played for

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Nocioni to the Celts is now off.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    my work here is done

  • http://lastknickstanding.blogspot.com Bryan

    I got Donnie Walsh as exec of the year if only for somehow getting rid of Jerome James’ contract while the fat bastard is injured and also he got rid of Jamal Crawford who I hate.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    Fans and GMs fall in love with talent way too easily. What makes one think that Larry Hughes will be different in NYC? The guy has been playing like a vagina for the last 4 years! Tim Thomas fooled everyone 3 or 4 years ago by having like 10 good games in a row for PHX when he was about to re-up. Jerome James too at a good series vs Duncan before his re-up. Why can’t GMs look at the body of work by a player?

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    TAD will LOVE this. Talks of Maxiell to the Lakers for THE MACHINE are still ongoing. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Izzo

    Shia:Explain your Crawford hate please.He was probably the only good thing about the Knicks last year.

  • http://www.another48minutes.blogspot.com Gerard Himself

    who hates Jamal Crawford? Ridicudisgrace!

  • http://www.kicksonfire.com Anton

    lol @ playing like a vagina.
    hope he doesn’t get injured, might bleed

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    GET THE F*CK OUTTA HERE

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    Wow that’s a rob!

  • http://www.another48minutes.blogspot.com Gerard Himself

    thank you izzo
    I mean, if you hate Crawford, you hate Li’l Nate too.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Lakers trying to sure up their front court presence.

  • http://www.another48minutes.blogspot.com Gerard Himself

    only 17 minutes to go…..

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    I’ve come to a conclusion that E is full of sh*t.

  • Candice

    I don’t understand what the Bulls are doing. I’m just sitting here confused on why they would want Thomas back, when they just banned him fromn the team a few years ago.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Izzo

    Trade deadline day goes much better while listening to Taylor Swift…..

  • http://www.kicksonfire.com Anton

    Patrick O’Bryant traded to Sacramento for nothing.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Well…..I was only typing what I read elsewhere, homeboy. Don’t play….you know your monkey-ass got excited thinking about the Machine firing from everywhere in the Palace.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    TAYLOR SWIFT??????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Where exactly did you read that? I’ve been everywhere and didn’t see anything…

  • dubya816

    There’s talks of Nocioni to Celtics. I heard it’s at a stand off as of late though. Shaq’s not headed to Cleveland. Knicks trying to get rid of Nate. Vince is still a Net for this season.

  • Candice

    @Z,I think he did good in Denver.They knew what type of plyer AI was so he wasn’t exactly all about defense. Also they never really had a pg when he was there. They had servicable one in Steve Blake and went with Anthony Carter after that. The Detroit thing I can’t wrap my brain about it because it’s not all AI. They gave up a 15 pt lead w/o AI playing in the 4th quarter to the Bulls, tells me it’s something else.

  • http://www.kicksonfire.com Anton

    Just because a trade hasnt been reported yet, i do believe it can be reported up until 6 pm EST. Something might be done already, just not reported.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    “Move on! Nothing to see here!”

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Lunch time….

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    ?NBA front-office sources tell ESPN.com that Orlando is acquiring Rafer Alston from Houston to fill the void created at point guard by Jameer Nelson’s shoulder injury.

    The Rockets will receive Memphis guard Kyle Lowry, Orlando forward Brian Cook and perhaps two other minimum-salaried players to make the finances work.

    The Grizzlies will receive a first-round pick from Orlando.”

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    E’s response to a Taylor swift mention was very appropriate. AThats a tough stretch coming up for detroit and i think it’ll either make or break their season. And to E, I actually think the Heat could be really dangerous if Wade realizes there’s four other players out there with him.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Will the Rockets start Lowry or Brooks? I know they’re tiring of Skip, but that one doesn’t make sense to me.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    WORST TRADE DEADLINE EVER!

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    It would be great if all these sh*t deals could be rescinded.

  • http://idunkonthem.blogspot.com/ albie1kenobi

    will there be a recap of all these garbage trades later on?
    ciolkstar, at least this year there’s some sort of senseless movements. 2 years ago there were one or two trades swapping used spiral notebooks for wholesale paperclips.

  • http://idunkonthem.blogspot.com/ albie1kenobi

    btw, i love how espn use a little bit of graphic designs to make these trades seem more exciting than they are.

  • http://lastknickstanding.blogspot.com Bryan

    Crawford was/is a gigantic chucker. Sure he gets hot sometimes but he gets more cold than anyone else and unlike Nate he doesn’t do anything besides score. No rebounds from a 6’7 shooting guard is pathetic and so are his assist numbers. If crawford isn’t scoring the ball at a torrid pace he is not helping your team win ballgames period.

  • http://wherethenbareallyhappens.blogspot.com Collin

    Rafer alston was just traded to the magic. that is very good for them, he will do good with jameer out

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Um, what Rafer are you referring to?

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    I just watched ESPN’s little 1 hour special. Thats what i left to do. Apparently Will Solomen was traded to the Celtics for Patrick O’Bryant. PAUL PIERCE GOT SOMETHING AFTER ALL

  • http://idunkonthem.blogspot.com/ albie1kenobi

    i was so bored i went to SKO to read the Ryan Jones interview again.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Whoa.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    I guess we should really update something…

  • http://wherethenbareallyhappens.blogspot.com Collin

    yeah he was traded, three way deal between houston-orlando-memphis.

  • http://idunkonthem.blogspot.com/ albie1kenobi

    you know, Eboy and TAD, i still don’t really understand how Jones changed his stance on KB so drastically. i wonder if the things he heard from others were that bad? coz it’s just strange that him and the Kobester still seem to be on good term when they see each other.
    unless they are both faking it.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    Kobe Bryant knows who Ryan Jones is?

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Kobe and “faking it”…naaah couldn’t be.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    Kobe Bryant fakes it more than a gold digger claiming satisfaction from her 400 lbs ‘sugar bear’

  • http://www.kicksonfire.com Anton

    F*ck.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    Fu*k

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    Fuc*

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    *uck

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    ****

  • http://www.ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com Allenp

    I can agree that the Denver and Detroit stints have hurt Iverson’s legacy among sportwriters, particularly those who were never that enamored with him in teh first place.
    However, I think Iverson did pretty well in Denver. And, I think the problems in Detroit are myriad. However, the failure of the Pistons has sapped much of my will to watch basketball. I haven’t a full game in weeks.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Really AllenP? I thought AI in Denver sort of confirmed a lot of the worst things people said about AI…
    More concerned with stats than team success(his stats were great in Denver, no playoff wins) uncoachable, selfish, poor defender, etc…

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Izzo

    Ciolk:It’s the media’s fault….

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    Allenp, I know you’ll ride through thick and thin with AI but to me… he can no longer be considered with the all time greats at the wings. Still unique. Still important in the history of the game. But he’ll be remembered as a high-volume scorer instead of a transcendant figure that could elevate the play of his teammates to new heights.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    @ Mr. Labouef: Jamal Crawford is awesome.

  • Candice

    @ciolkstar he shot less when he went to Denver and was more efficent. How was he uncoachable? The Nuggets wanted to run and they ran. Karl didn’t exactly have a playbook so the Nuggets freelanced a lot.They already knew he wasn’t the greatest defender, so exactly were they looking for? The team as a whole was bad defensively so it just wasn’t AI.

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