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Monday, February 9th, 2009 at 9:00 am  |  138 responses

Welcome to the Amare Derby

by Marcel Mutoni

As soon as it became public knowledge that the Phoenix Suns were willing to listen to trade offers for Amare Stoudemire, practically every one of their foes has expressed interest in the opportunity to land the freakishly-skilled forward.

According to CBS Sports, the Suns are in talks with no less than half a dozen teams about a possible trade:

The Phoenix Suns have engaged in trade talks with at least five or six teams, including the Pistons, Bulls, Nets, and Warriors, in their efforts to find the best offer for Amare Stoudemire, multiple league sources told CBSSports.com.

In the past 48 hours, the Suns’ posture on Stoudemire has advanced from accepting calls to placing them, an indication that they’ve accelerated efforts to pull off sweeping changes before the Feb. 19 trade deadline.

My favorite trade scenario for Amare is the Detroit one. And of course, he loves it too:

“It would be phenomenal. I think the fans here have been probably the top fans in the world since I’ve been in the NBA. They’re always cheering their team on and every time we come here, their always loud and rowdy, so it would be fun to play here.”

A team where everyone has a heart attack whenever the idea of one of the stars coming off the bench is brought up, bringing in a guy who so nakedly covets being “The Man”? Perfect!

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  • slamfan4life

    i hope he goes to Chi….

  • RM

    What about the Raptors?!

  • http://slamonline.com anjoe

    yeah. i think he’s good for mo town. he can go up with A.I . they can really be a good tandem.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Yeah, but who do the Pistons give up?

  • Andy

    I’d imagine the Suns would look for Sheed to be part of that deal. The Pistons should look for that too, as he’s not the player he was a couple of seasons back. Takes too many games off, for my liking.

  • rjcortesjumpman

    I’d probably suggest that he goes to the Nets… team up with a vet like Carter… and of course, a rising PG like Harris… it may even look very enticing to LBJ in 2010, so maybe they can be in the running again for the King… the Nets can give up everyone else except Harris :-)

  • http://thegayestwebsiteever.com Ben

    How about Wallace and Amir, plus a second rounder. I’m sure they would love to have Sheed’s money off the books next year. I mean, if they’re serious about rebuilding, which it certainly seems they are…

  • rikson

    Iverson is gone after the season- too less time to establish a rythm.

  • rikson

    Gordon with PHO would be great…

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Actually, Ben answered before I could. What has been rumored by Mark Stein is Sheed and Amir (and possibly a pick) for Amare. However, reports range pretty much across the country. I heard that Miami and Chicago were the early front-runners for Amare, and then read were Portland is currently in the lead. I would think that if Miami was willing to give up Marion and Beasley (which has been rumored by Stein) then that would be the best scenario for the Suns.

  • Funkdoc

    Gordon and Gooden for Amare?

  • a_whiteman

    Colangelo needs to dangle bargnani so we can team bosh and amare

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  • adams

    “Detroit fans are so much better than the fans in Phoenix, man. I hate those a**holes, you know?”

  • http://www.mynameinorange.blogspot.com Hisham

    does trading Rip for stoudemire work salarywise? Or rip + amir johnson or whichever role player would make it work

  • http://www.mynameinorange.blogspot.com Hisham

    I don’t know about shaq + rasheed wallace. shaq needs 1 complementary star + shooters. complement = nash or to a lesser extent J-Rich. Rip would be another shooter in the merry bunch. doesn’t sound too bad for the suns, imo. and then the pistons get Amar’e. can they make him play defense?

  • rikson

    Gordon and Thomas; Gordon and Hinrich; maybe Gordon and Deng

  • http://www.mynameinorange.blogspot.com Hisham

    they probably don’t want rip and his fresh new contract though. meh

  • Mendel

    Amare to PISTONS
    Shaqovich to LAKERS

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Correction: That was Chad Ford, not Mark Stein, who concocted those trade scenarios I had mentioned earlier in the post. All the 4-letter guys look alike.

  • Andy

    Holding onto Nash doesn’t bother me at all. Is there another PG even remotely good enough to replace him at this point in time, let alone one that the Suns could legitimately strike a deal for? Shaq and Amare would be easier to replace in a rebuilding process, in my opinion.

  • riggs

    amare to the BULLS, just for that one bull fan in agony here in slamdome

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Cheryl

    I’m with Co Co. Kerr is ranking up there with McHale at this point. And like Marion, I think Amare thrives in a running offense, not half court sets. I wouldn’t mind him in Miami, but he won’t be “the man” there either. In order for him to be “the man” he’d have to go to one of the rebuilding teams–maybe NY or NJ. Would the Suns take Vince?

  • http://coco-vents.blogspot.com Co Co

    You don’t rebuild around an elderly player. I could see if they were going to trade Amare for a player to get them over the hump and into the Finals, but they aren’t. Nash is not going to want to stay there while they rebuild. It just doesn’t make sense at all, no matter how you slice it. They aren’t a championship team as presently constructed and their chances will be even slimmer after they trade for draft picks and potential.

  • Diesel

    I’m pretty sure the suns won’t trade amare to a team in the western conference. And it looks like Detroit and the Bulls are the only 2 teams that can offer what pheonix is looking for: youth, expiring contracts, first round picks. I personally think Chicago has the upper hand because they can actually offer players that the suns may keep, instead of sheed’s expiring contract and a guy that barely plays in Amir.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    You guys are missing the point. Does anyone see the Suns contending in the playoffs this season? Better yet, will the Suns even make the playoffs? The Suns do not have anyone who is attractive to trade for other than Amare. Nash has another year left after this at almost $13 mil while Shaq has another year left at $21 mil. Richardson may be slightly appealing to someone, be is making almost $13 mil-a-year as well with 2 years remaining after this year. Barbosa could intrigue, but I don’t see him being effective unless he can get on a running team like the Warriors. Bottom line, Amare doesn’t want to stay in this sinking ship and will opt-out and the Suns would get nothing back when he signs with another team in ’10. So, they may as well trade him now and get something, anything, for him.

  • http://coco-vents.blogspot.com Co Co

    But why keep Nash? Someone would take him too, I’m sure of it.

  • Andy

    The key word is rebuilding, I think. Do you build AROUND Nash now? No, of course you don’t. And, yes, he’s going to leave in 2010. We know that. However, would the transition be less painful, if they kept a veteran two-time-MVP PG to lead them for a couple of seasons? My personal view is that there is far too much emphasis put on clearing cap space for thr 2010 Mega Sale, and not enough put on actually winning some games.

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    The Bulls can’t trade Gordon this year unless he’s willing to waive his Bird rights. Good luck with that.

  • http://coco-vents.blogspot.com Co Co

    The Suns have to make a decision. Either they are trying to win now or they are going to rebuild. If they are going to rebuild then it makes no sense to keep Nash.

  • mr. carter

    amare and barnes for hughes, hinrich and thomas?

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Co Co: Who, off the top of your head, would take Nash? Maybe the Blazers would for Raef’s expiring deal. The Heat would maybe consider him for Marion. Um, other than that, I don’t have much.

  • http://fdjslkf.com Jukai

    YOU HEARD IT HERE: If the Suns trade Amare for expiring contracts, I’m done with the Suns. Literally. I will now be an avid Cavaliers fan, and hell, I’m following the Bobcats because of Bell and Diaw. But this crap is ridiculous.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

    Iverson to the Suns????? Hells yeah. Iverson for Amare? Steve Kerr would do it since Iverson’s contract is expiring. A Rasheed Wallace-Amare-Prince-Hamilton-Stuckey lineup is ill not sick.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

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    BETCATS Posted: Feb.9 at 11:30 am
    Iverson to the Suns????? Hells yeah. Iverson for Amare? Steve Kerr would do it since Iverson’s contract is expiring. A Rasheed Wallace-Amare-Prince-Hamilton-Stuckey lineup is ill not sick.

  • http://fdjslkf.com Jukai

    TAD: There are a BUNCH of teams that would love Nash. If Amare goes, Nash is gone anyway… so why not at least get an expiring contract while yer at it? They’re (clearly) not going to get the bang for their buck, but for chrissakes, what’s the point in keeping him?
    Hell, why not trade Grant Hill for JJ Reddick and get rid of Shaq while he still has value for some nobodies? Without Amare, this team is doomed… they wont make the playoffs but their ranking is too good to be a high lottery team. This move makes no sense to me in the slightest.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    11:23 am, Monday, February 9th. Got it, Jukai.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Jukai: Like I asked Co Co, give me some teams you see who would want Nash. I’m not doubting you, but Nashty is wearing down and a lot of teams have their young PG of the future already playing or in waiting.

  • connor

    how bout amare to the bulls for hinrich, tyrus thomas, and cedric simmons?

  • connor

    otherwise yeah betcats, iverson with maybe a second rounder for stoudemire would be amazing! just so amare goes to detroit or chicago i’m good

  • http://fdjslkf.com Jukai

    Teams I could see vying for Nash: Mavs, Rockets, Knicks, 76ers, Raptors, Cavs, Blazers, Pacers, Bucks, Heat, Magic.
    Mavs and Orlando lost their point guards. Rockets HAVE no point guard. D’Antoni would kill a man to get Nash. 76ers clearly want to run and don’t want to depend on Miller. Calderon can’t play 40 minutes and is averaging the same stats in 35 as he did with TJ Ford in 20… so having Nash around might change the game for them. Cavaliers always need a point guard. Blazers would do anything to get a more solid option than Blake and Roddy. The Heat… no, Eboy… would stone Chalmers to death (no pun intended, just wrote that out and laughed) to get a real point guard. Pacers need more whities. Bucks are a team that need rebuilding but never actually rebuild and in turn would take another piece to add to their failed championship runs.
    Could ANY of these teams offer anything in equal value for a two time MVP who is averaging 13-10?
    No.
    Does it matter with Amare gone and the team rebuilding anyway?
    No.

  • rikson

    @Russ: Is it gordons decision? I thought players just have to accept getting traded….

  • http://coco-vents.blogspot.com Co Co

    I don’t know that they’d want Nash, but wouldn’t he be a great backup to Chris Paul. Not that he’d want to play behind someone at this point, but that would be nice. Anyway, Tad don’t underestimate the gm’s in this league. If they feel the need to repeatedly make it clear he’s unavailable, someone has asked.

  • Diesel

    Bulls wouldn’t trade gordon. The rumor is gooden, thomas, tabo, and simmons for amare. Then there will be a seperate trade invloving hughes for a year’s subscription to local newspaper of paxson’s choice.

  • BostonBaller

    Amare is a Beast and extremely talented but as soon as a big man says he wants to be the man then he needs to accept the responsibility of being the man. There is NO team in the league that he could go to and be THE MAN and still be on a winning team. does he want to be the man more than he wants to win? If he goes to a loser with salary cap room to make more great moves then Amare MIGHT be happy…until that team brought in more good talent and his insecurities kicked in and he felt as though he wasn’t the man. What a vicious cycle. lol

  • vmcb

    Amare and Derrick Rose would dominate the highlight reels.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Not a bad list, Jukai. Are you for the Suns completely tearing the team apart while you guys are 28-21 and still in (somewhat) contention?

  • Diesel

    Its a good move for the suns. The team will not win a championship with this team and most of your players are on the downslide, so try and trade them while you can. As for why Amare, he’s caused problems in the locker room demanding the ball more often, and he doesn’t play defense or rebound all too well, which is the new direction the team is going in. Plus you’ll get the most value for him.

  • MeloMan13

    calderon and Bargnani for Amare and grant hill!!!!!!

  • henry

    amare for dirk..
    j.howard and another player for marion..

  • Coffeebean

    If Amare wants to come to my Bulls, and make $20 million, he has to promise to play at least $7 million worth of defense…not bloody likely!

  • http://dillanleuyahoo.com Holy Baller

    No one is mentioning the OKC rumor. It’s definitely unlikely, but there’s a rumor that OKC will trade Desmond Mason, Joe Smith, and Chris Wilcox for Amare.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    I would stick with Mario and his bright future than Mr. Canada.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Joe Smith and Chris Wilcox haven’t done anything basketball-wise since having “Terrapins” across the front of their jerseys.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    OKC is being mentioned in trade rumors but it is not with those three, its mason, smith, and Jeff Green. Plus Phx would be retarted (if they already arent) to take anything less

  • http://dillanleuyahoo.com Holy Baller

    At least Joe Smith actually TRIES to play. Chris Wilcox just dunks when he’s wide open. No defense to speak of, no shot whatsoever. He’s quite possibly the least skilled power forward I’ve ever seen.

  • http://dillanleuyahoo.com Holy Baller

    I’m not sure if the Thunder will trade Jeff Green. I think they’d be stupid not to take Amare, but I can see them saying no to trading Jeff Green.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    Well they aren’t getting him so don’t worry about it

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    This is from the Ney York Daily News, so take it with a grain of salt:
    -
    • The fast-sinking Raptors are looking to shake things up and have talked to the Suns about trading Amare Stoudemire. But unless they decide to part with Chris Bosh, chances are slim that Raptors president Bryan Colangelo will get the All-Star power forward he drafted out of high school in 2002 when he was Phoenix’s top basketball executive. Bosh has missed the last two games with a sprained knee and his future in Toronto, beyond 2010 – when he becomes a free agent – is up in the air. So Toronto might be forced to get something for him. Detroit has been linked to Bosh in 2010, so it’s entirely possible that the Pistons will try to make it a three-way deal. Detroit’s Tayshaun Prince is being mentioned as one of the primary players who would end up with the Suns.

  • Michael

    @holy baller, if that goes down sam presti is the greatest gm of his time, imagine a durant-green-amare-westbrook lineup…very very nice, though probably need to play with two basketballs to satisfy KD and amare

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    I don’t understand why Amar’e to Washington has not been explored, if you don’t want to go Jamison and Butler, then Butler, McGee, Young, and Haywood? And the Suns could give up Amundson. To keep some big men in Washington.

  • Dark

    That might be real interesting if the OKC deal falls through. Westbrook, maybe James Harden, Durant, Amare, and random big in 2009-2010? Wow.

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    Look at the trade machine re: Gordon. He’s also a base-year compensation guy. There’s roughly zero chance he gets traded this year.

  • Michael

    Any chance the Pacers could get Amare?

  • http://www.alllooksame.com Tarzan Cooper

    miami trading marion back to the suns for amare? thats crazy and never going to happen

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    Tad – I do not see how that would work. The Suns would have to give up more then just Stat to get Bosh, but detroit does not have the right contracts to give Bosh-like value to the suns. It just does not make sense at all

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    If the Suns trade Amar’e but keep Nash, Shaq and Hill, aren’t they saying “we’re wining a title in the next two years”? Which they aren’t? This whole thing confuses the hell out of me.

  • Pistolen-Peter

    bring him to Chicago for T2 and Larry O’Brian – umm, i meant Larry Hughes

    or to the Thunder for Wilcox and Earl ‘Big E’
    Watson

    …and then trade Shaq to Dallas for Dampier and ???

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    Well I think they want to keep Nash because if you come to a Suns game in Phx you see 5,000 Steve Nash Jersey’s and not much of anyone else. And the Suns are trying to trade Shaq as well. But if the Amar’e trade is the only trade that happens then yeah your basically right.

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    That said, if I’m the Bulls I’m offering any combination of players they want except for Rose. Hinrich, Thomas and Noah? Hughes and Thomas? Nocioni, Thomas and Sefolosha? Deng and Gooden? Gooden, Aaron Gray and the rights to Pete Myers? John Paxson, Vinnie Del Negro and the Jordan statue? Just say the word, Steve-O.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    NBK: Don’t shhot the messenger. I didn’t write the rumor, i’m just sharing it.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    I think we wuold take the Jordan Statue, the rights to Luc Longley’s legacy and WGN

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    Done! You can have Stacey King, too.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    NO Tad i was asking you to explain how it would work, I read that newsthread yesterday but I still can’t figure out how Detroit would factor in. Unless Phoenix is getting bargnani and prince? with amir johnson too? but the contracts wouldn’t work, it does not make sense. If Prince is involved that cancels out Rasheed so the Suns would logically be getting a PF and a prospect out of the deal as well rigth?

  • Jess

    He would be killer with Bosh up here, but who do we have to trade with? I mean thats the problem with the Raps our lack of depth makes it hard to make trades, but if anyone cane do it, Colangelo can…oh and its almost time for the media to stop – Bosh isnt going to be traded…

  • Jess

    oh and the suns would be crazy to trade STAT.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    If Bosh isn’t getting traded the Raptors are loosing him. Nobody wants to play for Toronto who isn’t on the way downhill. No offense to all you Canadien contributors its just the nature of the beast.

  • IndyB.

    Amare’ should update his blog

  • http://www.kicksonfire.com Anton

    Amare for Wally, JJ Hickson, 2nd round pick, a bead of LeBron’s sweat

  • price

    amare and nash and a first round pick for bosh and calderon and anthony parker

  • Rich

    Now slow down on trading BG. Him and Rose work well together on the floor, and oh yeah, THEY CAN’T TRADE HIM! They can get rid of Hinrich, Hughes, Thabo, Tyrus, Noah, Gooden, Simmons, the list goes on. I think the Bulls will keep Gordon anyway. It was put out in the papers before the season started: the day after the Bulls took his 6 year, $54 million contract off the table, Gordon went in the front office to sign it, not even knowing it wasn’t there anymore. So he would’ve been a Bull for the long-term, which means they want him. If anything, get rid of Deng and keep Noc.

  • sam

    i just dont get why the suns would want to unload young talent with expiring contracts, surely amares worth more than that, and keep aging stars. its almost as if phoenix has become a hospice for the worn out nba greats. this seems like another pau trade to me , cant get my headround it. GREAT if your a bulls fan tho (like me) imagine a derrick, ben, nocioni, amare and a yao wannabe…..

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    Sam this trade has not happened don’t stress yourself out

  • sam

    hahaha na but you see where im at tho, i dont get why you would WANT to trade a young superstar for next to nothing.

  • sam

    if there gonna get rid of anyone how about that stupid ass coach (no disrespect terry) who cant string a sentence together.

  • Jared Smith

    Amare to the NO hornets how sick would chris paul to amare be?

  • talya

    Im begging washington to go after amare…..give up what you got to get him. I think areanas is gonna come back fine he just doesn’t want to come back to the squad he has. Get Amare and he will come back in great form. Agent Zero and STAT is I like the sound of that but i dont think it’s possible. Yet i still hope.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    Gary Peyton and Shawn Kemp-esque except NO would have to give up both their bigmen and julian wright to get amare

  • http://www.nba.com JE

    I’ve been chastised for this once already, but I’m going to post it again in light of the locker room story in Houston.

    JE Posted: Feb.6 at 10:39 pm
    Alright, I honestly didn’t know about the trade machine on espn.com until I read one of TAD’s comments earlier. Since then, I’ve been going nuts. I’ve come up with a beautiful 3 way trade that makes everyone better. the 3 teams: Houston, Pheonix, and Detroit. Pheonix gets: Tracy McGrady, Rasheed Wallace, and Carl Landry. Houston gets: Shaquille O’neal, and Allen Iverson. Detroit gets: Amare Stoudemire, Shane Battier, and Rafer Alston.

  • http://www.stonesthrow.com/ Michael NZ

    Great if you want a PF who plays no D whatsoever, and is a malcontent. If he’s your main guy you not going anywhere. Leads the league in points scored in minutes where the games is over. Probably.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    JE that does not help PHX or Houston in any way that trade is just plain stupid.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    First of all Shaq and Yao on the same team is the dumbest thing anyone has ever suggested on this website. Especially considering you suggested putting Iverson on that team with them. The Suns would be without a center and would have the two most often injured wings in NBA history – grant hill and tracy mcgrady. Why don’t you just suggest Shaq for Jason Kidd and Amar’e to LAC for Baron Davis while your at it so the suns can have a 3 point guard attack haha

  • http://www.nba.com JE

    Pheonix starting lineup: Nash, Richardson, McGrady, Wallace, Lopez. McGrady would get rejuvenated just like everyone else. With and Hill and Landry off the bench. Expiring contract in Rasheed, young talent in Landry.
    Houston: Luther Head at pg, Iverson at the 2, Artest sf, YAO at PF (oh my God), and Shaq at center. They’ve been considering moving McGrady anyway, and in turn would have that incredible starting 5, and 2 huge contracts coming off the books within the next 2 years.

    Detroit: Stuckey, Rip, Tashaun, Amir Johnson Amare. With Skip bringing instant offense off the bench, and Battier bring instant defense.

    I would tag Houston as the least likely to do this, but they don’t have much reason not to, considering they aren’t going anywhere as-is.

  • http://www.stonesthrow.com/ Michael NZ

    laugh… or cry?

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    Ok dude first things first, Robin Lopez is not a starter in the NBA no way no how and the Suns are not stupid enough to think he is. And having Bigmen on your bench is much much more important then having a “rejuvenated” (he was supposedly rejuvenated going into the season) over big men on the bench is stupid. Big men are important in the playoffs having McGrady is good on paper but he has never been out of the first round, and giving up your two best players for guys who are nothing but disappointing is so stupid on so many levels.
    And your Yao (omg) at the 4 idea is so off the charts retarted. Did you not watch what Utah did to Yao? He can’t guard 4′s all season he will foul out of every game or pass out by the 4th quarter. Especially if Shaq is the other guy helping him out. Detroit would be getting an absolute steal in the deal. Its just so farfetched and stupid I can’t believe you think it makes sense

  • Ken

    If they do want to trade him, they’re gonna have to do it after the All-Star Game. I don’t think they would trade him before; that would just be wrong. It’s kind of funny though that his last home game in Phoenix could be the All-Star Game.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    You can put your money on Phx waiting for as many offers as possible and making a trade at the deadline. Any sooner would be foolish

  • http://www.nba.com JE

    because Lopez doesn’t start when Shaq sits out, right? If the Suns went that long playing Amare at center, this really shouldn’t be an issue. Hell, Tracy could play the 4 like Marion did –not that I’m suggesting that, I think Lopez starting at center would be a better idea. This would be incredible for Detroit, and a steal for the Suns as well, when you consider that they aren’t going to have something half this nice by the deadline. The biggest thing for Houston would be the $40 million dollars coming off the books by 2010, and a hall of fame starting 5 to play with in the meantime.

  • Young Chris MP3

    Is it a coincidence that Tyson Chandler is trade-bait not? I hope not. Chandler > Amare imo as he plays tough D and rebounds.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    wow you just don’t understand what your talking about. just because he starts for shaq every once in a while does not mean he is a starter. Starting 82 games is way f’n different then 12. Your so rediculous to think McGrady can help any team enough to merit them giving up their 2 leading scoreres. Its bs your wasting my time, I should not have even replied to this crap

  • http://www.kicksonfire.com Anton

    Young Chris MP3 fails. Hard. Is your idea of “tough” defense fouling so much that your playing time gets halved? Sure he rebounds, but I’d take A’m~a;re’s instant offense over Chandler’s one better stat( pun intended).

  • http://www.nba.com JE

    they’ve been trying to trade both of them for the past month, dumba.ss

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    NOt for players that are worse sooper dumb*ss. Especially Amar’e, if you give him up your getting more then just Wallace, or McGrady, and if your giving up 2 all stars and are not getting any in return you know your getting screwed. (well you should know, but obviously you dont) idiot

  • http://www.nba.com JE

    you get rasheed wallace, and tracy mcgrady. neither contract is a long term commitment. you get a young player in carl landry. kerr wants expiring contracts, and a young player. done.

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    Considering McGrady still has 2 years left and is not playing like an all star that would be a waste of 40 million dollars. The suns don’t want to make a trade and become worse, and when they are looking for young talent they are looking for players that are developing not guys that are maxed out. And Shaq puts more money in the bank then McGrady and his contract is up the same year. You do not get anything out of adding McGrady to the suns except a smile on your stupid face

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    And an expiring contract is a contract that is expiring not one that has 20 million dollars on it. Your so beyond clueless I dont think your going to figure out how stupid you are any time soon. Here if you own an xbox360 and have an nba game, play a franchise as houston or detroit and try your little 3 way trade. The computer wont even be stupid enough to accept that. Unless you play as the Suns who are the team getting screwed the most in this situation

  • JESSEG

    It makes no Sense to me how you would trade your only young player you could build around with all the money coming off the books in a year and to completly change your team for a 36 year old center who can’t play everygame and is gone in a year too. On top of that Shaq isnt good enough to carry this team to a championship anyway. Steve Kerr is dumb!

  • http://allday-fadeaway.blogspot.com nbk

    Thats why he is trying to trade Shaq as well Jesse

  • http://www.nba.com JE

    the idea is to not lose money financially when he gets rid of those players, because he already has that incentive if he keeps them. that’s why he wants expiring contracts. he said he wants expiring contracts — i’m not trying to give them some sort of merit that they don’t have. McGrady’s contract runs up either the year Amare’s does, or the year before. I don’t feel like looking. The fact that you suggested I test the trade on a video game only further discredits you.

  • kingofsota

    i still don’t understand why this wouldn’t work: bulls give up hinrich, deng, and tyrus thomas or drew gooden, in exchange for amare from the suns. both teams get what they need; chicago will finally have the post presence they need and the suns will have a bright YOUNG future, not the old decrepid one of nash, shaq, hill.

  • JESSEG

    I still think it would be dumb to trade Amare. He is only 26. You will not be able to get a more talented young player to build around in the future.

  • http://www.nba.com JE

    jesse: I personally agree. But there’s no way Kerr is going to admit he messed up trying to fix something that wasn’t broken…so he’s as good as gone.

  • JC

    hope he goes to NOH…. CP3 DWest and Amare would light it up yo

  • donlaker

    shaq hates terry porter, amare does too
    but the knicks cant afford both of them so they will go for amare , to team him with king james
    and yes steve kerr will be back next to marv albert soon calling games (not nbalive09) and nash……….

  • donlaker

    is it me or do the lakers make other teams make moves because of them.. it is safe to say boston and clevland are suprised the lakers got the job done in the east . like rhianna said to chris brown…..dont call me i will call you

  • JamesPH

    why dont phoenix fire terry porter and steve kerr?? these guys are ruining the team from the get go. what sarver should do is get him some slick GM like that guy in portland, ripping off teams. trade everyone except amare, make him the building block of the team. its not like talented big men grow on trees

  • http://www.nba.com JE

    Terry Porter and a 1st Round Draft pick for Don Nelson. ehh?

  • R1se Above All

    steve kerr sucks bigtime! first marion, then d’antoni, then diaw and bell, so why not trade the whole team! or maybe, why not trade himself!

  • jose

    That’d be crazy if marion got shipped back to phoenix(i wouldn’t want them to send beasley tho)maybe haslem and james jones to go with matrix to phx.?

  • BostonBaller

    Some of this trade talk is crazy and simply a wish list by posters…Forget balancing the salary caps, after reading this stuff I doubt if some of the posters can balance their check book. for example: mare to Wizards..Helllloooo, he wants to be THE MAN therefore IF Arenas comes back and stays back, that theory is toast.
    it’s great to invision CP3 passing to Amare but that’s what the ASG is for..lol

  • The Promise

    This is getting interesting guys.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXuolMTzuz0 Nbk

    JE the fact that I said try it on a video game means that using the most basic knowledge possible – ratings in a video game try the trade. Because McGrady’s contract has 2 years left, as well as Shaq’s while Amar’e Has 2 years and an option for a 3rd which he will likely decline no matter what. The fact that you consider Tracy’s McGrady’s “expiring” (its not F***N an expiring contract if it does not expire idiot. Every contract can be called expiring under your fantasy definition.) contract more valuable then Amar’e or Shaq just speaks volumes toward how big of a clueless person you are. Your not right, plane and simple, the suns would not give up amar’e for Tracy Mcgrady, and they wont give him up for just Rasheed Wallace. And the Suns would NEVER give up Shaq for tracy mcgrady, or Shaq for just rasheed wallace. I hope not an adult making outrageous trade ideas like this. I am actually ashamed of myself for even caring that someone can be so clueless

  • http://www.yahoo.com Royal

    Amar’e to Oklahoma City fof jeff green, Nick Collison and a second round draft pick

  • http://www.yahoo.com Royal

    For not fof……………..

  • http://www.nba.com JE

    getting Bosh would be the only scenario that could possibly be better for the suns. the only credible way anyone on here could have possibly argued with that trade would be from Houston’s perspective. but I’ve said the same thing like 5 times now, and I don’t feel like doing it again. So f.uck off, kid.

  • http://www.jcherot.blogspot.com Tripset30

    Believe it or not, I was with you JE… until you mentioned Yao Ming at the four (omg). Although it might not be for a long period of time given Shaq’s age, the Rockets would pretty much have the slowest front court in NBA history.

    It’ll be interesting to see where this cat STAT ends up.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    Thinking about Amar’e and Bron on the same team makes me feel dizzy.

  • http://www.nba.com JE

    trip: In hindsight, given Rick Adleman’s style, Shaq off the bench would be more realistic. However, I could see it being a scenario where the starting lineup would include both players simply for the sake of pleasing them, while the bulk of the game would have one or the other on the floor. haha, as if it would happen.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXuolMTzuz0 Nbk

    In hindsight given common sense that trade would never happen ever your an idiot.

  • clos1881

    The Suns are crazy for thinking of trading STAT the trade that I came up with for them is Shaq to the hornets for tyson chandler the suns team is built to play uptempo they just need interior defense and rebounding I dont understand the logic of trading Amare @ 26 and keeping nash at like36

  • http://www.slamonline.com Jack

    @ Eboy’s first post. Kwame. I’d laugh at Shaq’s stat line when Kwame Brown has to be his sidekick. Or to put it properly, side-hick.

  • Waylonakolipse

    Amare should go to the Warriors. GS can also offer the most talent for trade. Monta, Crawford, Maggette, etc. They’ll also have a top 10 pick and they can throw in young talent. Such as Morrow, Randolph, or Wright. All of these players can flourish with Nash. Imagine Amare, Jackson, and Biedrins in that frontcourt!

  • http://www.nba.com JE

    nbk: it was acknowledged the trade would never happen in my first comment. doesn’t mean it’s not a good idea.

  • SilkCityP

    Amar’e is a beast, but to keep it g… He’s an underachiever & lazy!!! Just look at it from this perspective… If Amar’e was averaging 25 pts, 12 rbds & 2 blocks a game, does anybody think Phoenix would have a record of 28-22 and out of the playoff picture at this point? He’s definitely got potential to be a monster but he’s got to start calling for the rock, they should be feeding the offense through him. He needs to be committed to rebounding & playing D… until than he’s just an underachiever!

  • j.mitch

    amare to l.a for bynum and a first or second round pick amare and kobe championship to the lakers.what do you think or amare to the bucks for bogut and first round pick let me know

  • brooklyn

    amare aint goin 2 l.a the suns want expiring contracts so they can rebuild so i would say either miami or chicago miami could trade back marion because his contract expires next year so maybe there idk

  • http://nextgg.com DMC14

    Mcgrady playing the 4 for the suns no thankyou. if it happens they better get a decent 4 back. i like the marion and beasley trade someone suggested wether its even possible i dont know also like the idea of hinrich and a few other polayers.

    in Live 09 i traded shaq for tyson chandler and it was a really good team!!! lol

  • DWall

    amare and marion were both one dimensional players…and that just hasnt work since rodman and the jordan. mario was no rodman, and amare is no jordan.

    you cant win if your 4 cant defend. defense wins championships, and amare cant defend.

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