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Wednesday, March 11th, 2009 at 9:00 am  |  122 responses

The Post Up: A Little Mo

While the Jazz are now 12-strong.

by Holly MacKenzie

After Monday night’s action, last night just wasn’t the same. The Suns/Mavs game was a good one and the Bobcats gave the Spurs a run for their money until about midway through the fourth, but there wasn’t anything that had me hopping like Monday.

BETCATS has to be happy with the way his squad is playing. Raja, Boris and Diop have helped these guys get on track and they are in the playoff hunt as we speak. I certainly didn’t expect that at the beginning of the season. Larry Brown has got a good thing going, or as good as can be with the roster he’s got.

You know what’s annoying? the Spurs announcers calling Emeka Oak-A-Fur“, the entire night long. That made me pretty crazy.

Now, you know what made me pretty happy? JJ Barea having a fantastic game in his seventh start this season for the Mavs. My love for JJ as well as our history (meaning, my watching him light up Chris Paul in the summer of ’04), has been well documented here on the Post Up, but it doesn’t get old. Seeing him prove himself game after game after game just feels so damn good. Rewarding, even!

Those Jazz. Still winning. 12 straight. Can they keep it going? It’s nuts how we are approaching the homestretch and each conference has the race for eighth going on. Makes things more interesting, like the Suns/Mavs game last night (that the Suns needed oh so badly), and the Knicks/Bucks game.

The Clippers, well, didn’t you just know that they’d find a way to lose to the Cavaliers? Bron gets another triple-double (his 15th of the season), Mo Williams goes 3-16 from the floor before hitting a huge three in the final minutes and then with 6.6 seconds remaining, the best the Clippers can do is getting the ball to Zach Randolph (although, they were trying to get the ball into the hands of Baron Davis), who must have forgotten that he had time, because he jacked a 30-footer that hit nothing but air.

The best part was his coach putting his head in his hands on the release of the shot.

Oh, Z-Bo. You’re a perfect poster boy for the Clippers.

The Cavs, meanwhile? They were down 19…. In the fourth quarter. They came back though, and Bron’s triple-double consisted of 32 points, 12 rebounds and 11 assists as Mo’s three came with 6.6 seconds to put the Cavs up 85-83 after a three-pointer from Al Thornton had put the Clippers up two. The Cavaliers outscored LA, 35-14 over the final quarter and after his three, Mo iced the game at the line with two free throws. Finishing 4-17 from the floor, it didn’t matter as the most important shot of the night dropped.

LO has been suspended a game. That sounds about right. The league chose not to further discipline Ariza and I agree with that and I don’t think that’s just me being a Lakers fan. I truly don’t think the intent was there to injury or hurt Rudy, but man, Riza needs to rein himself in just a bit sometimes.

Very happy to hear that Rudy has returned home and is feeling much better. Loved that Sergio Rodriguez stayed with him in the hospital overnight. Sending more well wishes Rudy’s way.

Speaking of well wishes, thinking of Randy Foye, as he is out with an ankle sprain that’s got him in that dreaded walking boot. Not sure how long he will be out, but here is hoping he will be back in action soon.

I’m still kind of in shock when I sit back and think about the possibility of the Bobcats making the playoffs. I know they’ve been winning (six straight, before falling to the Spurs last night), but, wow. They’ve been under the radar for the most part.

In case you missed it: Shaquille O’Neal moved into sixth on the all-time scoring list by passing Elvin Hayes last night in the Suns loss to Dallas.

I was reading through the comments yesterday (you guys totally killed it, topping 300!), and it got me thinking about the All-NBA First team. Kobe, Dwyane, Chris, Deron, etc., etc. Who gets the nod?

Also, who’s the DPOY so far this season?

Anddddd….. If you watch ONE thing today, make it be this. Holy, holy, wow. I had him in my dunk contest last week, I’m happy the world is seeing this so we can make this happen. I demand Mike Taylor for the Dunk Contest, 2010.

The Kings and Thunder found themselves in another close one last night. I didn’t see this one, but the boxscore tells me that the Thunder narrowly escaped with a 99-98 victory as Jeff Green and Russell Westbrook combined for 44 points, with each scoring 22. The Thunder won despite scoring only 15 points in the fourth quarter and having only 15 assists to 22 turnovers. I’m fairly confident that this one wasn’t a pretty game. Nenad Krstic had 9 points and 15 rebounds for OKC and Thabo Sefolosha added 17 points. The Kings were led by Spencer Hawes with 20 points, 10 rebounds and 5 assists as Francisco Garcia added 18 off of the bench and Andres Nocioni added 16 in the loss.

New York 120 Milwaukee 102

It was a game the Bucks needed. It was one the Knicks needed even more. In their quest for the playoffs, the Knicks have to catch the Bucks, who were sitting in eighth before the game. Thanks to a 39-point night from Larry Hughes, and the ability of Nate Robinson to dance into the lane and get to the hoop, New York was able to shake off the Bucks late, after battling back and forth throughout. When the Knicks went down one with 4:21 remaining, Robinson completed a three-point play to put his team back on top. Ramon Sessions got the Bucks to within three, but they could not come up with an answer for Hughes or Robinson and had to resort to fouling in the final minutes, ultimately falling, 120-102. Besides Hughes, Robinson had 32 points off of the bench and David Lee added 19 points and 18 rebounds. The Bucks were led by Charlie Villanueva’s 32 points and 9 rebounds as Ramon Sessions had 22 points 9 assists and 6 rebounds and Richard Jefferson added 16.

Utah 112 Indiana 100

Gunning for their 12th straight victory, the Jazz continued their winning ways on the road, this time in Indy. While they found themselves in a close one that had them up only two going into the fourth, they were able to take control and outscore the Pacers 30-20 in the final period to get the 112-100 win. While the game was tied at 90 with seven minutes remaining in the game, Utah put together a 16-4 run to take control and gain some breathing room down the stretch. Mehmet Okur had 24 points for the Jazz to help on a night where Deron Williams scored just five points on 1-9 from the floor. He added 12 assists and five steals though as Paul Millsap scored 22 points off of the bench and Ronnie Brewer added 18. The Pacers had 23 points and 13 rebounds from Mike Dunleavy, 21 points apiece from Jarrett Jack and TJ Ford and 9 assists for Ford as well.

Dallas 122 Phoenix 117

While the Suns were four games back from the eighth spot in the West, the team they are trailing is the Mavs, so this match up last night was a critical one in their playoff run. Their race just became a bit more difficult as they were unable to stop the Mavs, get a W and make up some ground on their opponent. While they started out the game strong and led 62-58 at the half, Dirk Nowitzki led his team back in the third as the Mavs outscored Phoenix 34-25 to lead going into the fourth. In the final period, Phoenix made it interesting in the final minutes, by cutting the lead down to single digits after consecutive layups by Jason Richardson, but they were unable to slow the Mavs and fell for their fifth consecutive time to fall five games back out of the playoff race. Nowitzki led Dallas with 34 points and 13 rebounds as Jason Terry scored 25 off of the bench and JJ Barea added 16 points. Steve Nash scored 23 points to go with 13 assists (the Mavs won despite having only 15 team assists), while Shaquille O’Neal and Matt Barnes each scored 21 and Leandro Barbosa added 18 off of the bench in the loss.

San Antonio 100 Charlotte 86

The Charlotte Bobcats have been one of the hottest teams in the NBA as of late and last night, they remained one of the hottest teams in the league, for the first 42 minutes of their game against the San Antonio Spurs. The loss means that the ‘Cats are now one full game behind the Bulls for the eighth spot in the East, but the game was an encouraging one as Charlotte gave the Spurs trouble and the two teams traded leads throughout before rookie George Hill, veteran Tim Duncan and surprise fourth-quarter star, Roger Mason all helped the Spurs to pull away late in the fourth. Mason knocked down three three-pointers in the fourth and Hill played some tight defense before Duncan went to work late, finally getting shots to fall after struggling with his shooting on the night. Roger Mason and Tony Parker each scored 21 points for the Spurs as Duncan scored 18 to go with 11 reobunds but shot only 7-18 from the floor. The Bobcats had 16 points apiece from Raja Bell and Emeka Okafor while Boris Diaw added 9 points and 8 assists and Gerald Wallace added 14 in the loss.

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  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    It’s cool how Bron’s 32, 13 and 11 barely warrants mention at this point. The MVP race is gonna be interesting as hell.
    First team’s gotta be Dwight, Bron, Kobe, Dwyane and…

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    Morning Holly.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Justin Walsh

    Ladies and Gents, the bipolar wilt chamberneezy wants out of phoenix, HOLLA IF YOU HEAR ME people. This year I love him, then HATE him so quickly.

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Cheryl

    Utah is the hot team right now, going into the playoffs. It’ll be interesting to see where they seed. I’d love to see a matchup between them and the Lakers. That would be a good one.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Justin Walsh

    Cheryl, I agree, and I’m sure my boy Ryne would LOVE to watch that matchup.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Man, David Lee is going to get P-A-I-D in the offseason. Meanwhile, Zach Randolph causes high blood pressure.

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Cheryl

    I’ve said it before, but my respect for the big guy is next to nothing at this point. Which is kinda sad, because I really enjoyed his play and his antics during most of his career. I really do hope he would make the decision to end his career with grace over the next couple of seasons. It doesn’t look likely.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Justin Walsh

    look at Z-Bo’s jawline to neck ratio…His neck looks fat. His face looks fat. His game is like a fat guy wearing a bikini at a stripclub- FELONIOUS AND IMPERSONATING THE TALENT

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    I feel you on Shaq, Justin.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Justin Walsh

    I think Holly is the same way. Shaq is just being really…weird this year. And by weird, I surely mean his usually FUN-mean jabs are increasingly malicious. And yeah, his numbers are up from last year, but he’s B*TCHING about the Suns speeding up the pace and wants out now. What the Chuck Taylor is he thinking?

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    Yeahhhh, as was stated here in yesterday’s comments, Dirk is so overrated. Soft, a ninny i believe was the exact definition, easily stopped by smaller athletic forwards (great job, suns) and wouldn’t even draw a DuranGranger if traded today. Sure thing , people. In other stories, Lebron James is an average player and should give up basketball and take up knitting as a pasttime!!!

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    and just to be fair here, Lebron’s line last night was humongous. Two trip dubs in a row? Plain stooopid!

  • PAtrick Bateman

    Nate Robinson 6th man of the year, most improved player…..

    “Being 5-9, I wouldn’t have it no other way. Guys on the team are like, ‘How good would you be if you were 6-8?’ But then I wouldn’t be who I am. It’s like Charles Darwin’s theory: Survival of the fittest. I survive. If I were on “Lost,” I’d be the last man standing. You know that, right?”

  • http://lastknickstanding.blogspot.com Bryan

    Larry Hughes looks pretty good in that offense like someone predicted…

  • neaorin

    It could’ve been because I had just witnessed my Cavs pulling off their greatest comeback of the season, but when Z-Bo shot that late three I burst into uncontrollable laughter. Poster boy indeed. The LA “fire Mike D” legions should have a field day with this one.

  • Squirrel7

    Glad to see the Jazz keep it going. However, someone should tell D-Will there’s an online debate about him and Chris Paul. After all, the pro-Deron fans have been citing his shooting as his main advantage, so probably not the best time to bust out a 1-for-9 game…….

  • http://www.bbaxn.com Darksaber

    just saw Mike T’s warmup dunks. VERY impressive. How tall is he? I second Holly’s motion for a dunk contest invite.

  • Sebastian B. O. Bunionstow, esq.

    The ‘cats are fun to watch. Always like watching Gerald Wallace, and now he has some help.

  • adams

    Paul, Wade, LeBron, Dirk, Dwight.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Roger Mason and George Hill are the future in SA!

  • kev

    dwight Bron wade paul kobe first team. Dirk????? hahaa yeah right

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    CP3 Wade Kobe Bron Dwight

    The only way to make the 1st team the top 5 players in the L is to put Bron as a PF, which would only slight Tim Duncan. And I’m sure that he doesn’t give a sh!t, so I guess I’m fine with it as well.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Duncan is 1st Team until he retires.

  • The Seed

    Deron, Kobe, Lebron, Duncan, Dwight. My apologies to Chris Paul and Dwayne Wade.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Justin Walsh

    TAD, Duncan= best PF of all time.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

    the 4th quarter pissed me off. I enjoyed the Thunder game too.

  • MooButter

    Dirk!???? hahahahahahahaha

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

    Roger Mason kept killing us last night. I was happy how we played until the 4th. Oh well though. All winning streaks end.

  • http://www.jazzspin.com JAZZSPIN

    I am quite impressed with “23 points and 13 rebounds from Mike Dunleavy” while he is out for the season.

    Haha, just giving you a hard time… He does sorta look like Troy Murphy.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Izzo

    I’ve made my feelings on Duncan clear…

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

    cocaine music

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

    Shaq is getting repetive. “I hate ______” “_____ isnt as good as me” “_______ needs to taste my a$$”

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    I do feel like Duncan SHOULD be there, but I wouldn’t be that surprised to see him on the 2nd team this season.

    Maybe Dwight slips to the second team?

    CP3 Wade Kobe Bron Duncan

    The more I think about it that HAS to be the 1st team.

  • The Seed

    Betcats is the answer Rupaul

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Izzo

    The big difference between Shaq and Kobe for me as always been that Shaq can control whether or not you like him.Kobe cannot.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    Darksaber. Dirk is a HOF, nobody really questioned that. 1) He CAN be slowed down by athletic 3s because he CAN’T punish them down low. However, when his jumpshot is falling is pretty much unguardable because you’re not gonna block the shot of a 7-foot dude with a high release point. 2) OKC doesn’t even return the call on a Dirk for Durant trade.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    BET, GForce was looking like a badass in the first half then sort of disappeared. I honestly felt a little bad during the 4th, because I knew you’d be watching as well. Still, I think I like this Spurs team more than ANY in the past decade. George Hill And Roger Mason are the shiyit!

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

    cio: the spurs are the quietest championship contender this year. I wouldnt be suprised if it is a Cavs-Spurs finals again.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Thats an interesting distinction, Izzo. I think its got atleast some truth to it.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

    The Seed, the answer could be: Bosh, Howard, Wade, Van Gundy, Bryant, Porter

  • http://www.ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com Allenp

    From yesterday’s discussion on Scottie being considered the best in the league at one point.
    In the 93-94 seasons, Scottie put up 22 points, 8 rebounds and six assists. He also averaged nearly 3 steals and 1 block per game. And he shot 49 percent from the floor.
    Crazy.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    I think I like the Spurs chances against the Cavs, although I still fear the potential Wrath of Bron. I just need the Lakers to puss out against the Jazz or something. Kobe really brings it against the Spurs. Like, moreso than against almost anyone else. I think there was a letdown for him last season after beating the Spurs, he played unbelievavbly well in that series before folding and literally giving up agsint Boston.

  • http://www.ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com Allenp

    Wait, my bad. Scottie shot 48 percent from the floor and 34 percent from 3.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Those numbers are sick AllenP.
    It sucks that Scottie’s legacy is sort of subsumed by Mike’s greatness…

  • http://www.ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com Allenp

    I didn’t watch any ball last night, but like Bryan I’m not surprised to see Larry Hughes playing better.
    Mike D is an offensive guru.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    Yeah… but Dream went for 27 pts, 12 boards, 4 assists, 4 blocks (!) and 1.5 steals that year. Scottie was great that year, but Hakeem was on some other sh!t.

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Cheryl

    I would LOVE to see the Spurs/Cavs in the Finals. One, because I’d like to see that matchup again now that Bronny’s had a taste of the Finals and his team is better able to compete with the Spurs (can you imagine that Mo/Tony matchup?). But also because it would mean that the Jazz beat the Lakers in the semis and didn’t have enough left to beat the Spurs. Man, I can’t wait for the playoffs!

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Cheryl

    Spurs in seven but only because Pop’s a better coach.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    If the playoffs started today, the Lakers would have to play either the Jazz or Blazers in the 2nd round. I know a few Lake Show fans who would be sweating that matchup.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    The Blazers sure play the Lakers tough at the Rose Garden but I just can’t see them pulling it out in a 7-game series. The Jazz on the other hand… we already know that Farmar can’t touch the floor against Utah, for some reason Deron immediatly attacks him in a straight line and gets fouled as soon as he gets on the floor. I remember a replay where you could actually see Deron’s eyes lit up when Farmar was getting ready to check. Brewer and Kirilenko can do a decent job on Kobe. Utah just seems to match up well… The only thing is that Boozer is eating Millsap’s minutes now. I never rated Boozer much. Hate the fade away.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    The “dream: is going to turn nightmarish.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Ok, but if the Blazers where to win all of the games at home, I could see a game where Brandon Roy gets them over the hump in LA. No one wants to play the Jazz right now. I think i’m saying that the West will be more competitive than some people think. The biggest winner out of this scenario….the Spurs.

  • http://double-technical.blogspot.com Zee!

    TV Funhouse!!

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    I think Millsap gives the Jazz a better chance to win that series as well, Z. I think he’s a beter rebounder and defender than Booz, and he shoots less and less difficult shots (as you aluded to) IMO, Boozer is 2 years aways from being a great back up. Think, rich man’s Kurt Thomas.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    I feel like this post season could do for Deron, in terms of respect and recognizability, what last season’s did for CP3. Maybe not to that same extent, but Deron is a monster in the playoffs, and when he decides to go for delf he’s pretty much unstoppable.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    I hate Duke and i’m not a fan of Boozer, but ya’ll are crazy to think he is a backup in 2 years. Come on now.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    My hate of Boozer is kinda irrational in the way that I hate his game so much that I let it cloud my assessment of his abilities. He boards like a beast and shoots a REALLY high percentage for a face-up 4 (54% for his career). However, I have no way to back this up, but whenever I watch him in crunch time he does something stupid or gets stripped. He’s absolutely not a bucket getter. You can’t just dump it to him in a close game and say ‘go get yours’. I dunno, maybe some Jazz fan needs to explain to me Booz’s game.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    I just think whatever team signs him this offseason to a 5-6 year deal will be making a HUGE mistake. Ask the 6ers how signing an undersized but highly skilled PF with limited atheleticism and an injury history worked out…

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Co-sign Z about Booz in crunch time. I have watched a ton of Spurs Jazz playoff games and I’d rather see Booz with the ball than Deron 10 times out 10 (as a Spurs fan)in those late-game “need a bucket situations”. I probably am not giving him enough credit either, but thats where teams get in trouble. You just can’t pay a guy long term based on what he’s done in the past, and yet somebody will do it.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Wow, hating on Elton too??? Maybe there is something of a Duke curse or something? Honestly, Brand just made a bad decision to go to a team that didn’t fit his style of play. His injury this season was a fluke, it wasn’t because he is injury prone.
    -
    As for Boozer, I have a hard time defending him. Not that I don’t think he is skilled (he is), but because his game is kinda boring. Then again, so is Duncan’s and so was the Mailman’s. Not saying he is on their level, but a consistent 20 and 10 is not supposed to be Sportscenter worthy. He just gets the job done. Also, I give him props for being completely into the game and cheering on his teammates this summer on the olympic team even though he wasn’t playing. I’ve seen lesser players sulk in that role.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    I just don’t think Boozer or Elton’s game warrant max contract money and “franchise player” status. Look at what Millsap did without Boozer. He basically matched his scoring and rebounding with BETTER defense. And surprisingly enough, I’m actually a lifelong Duke fan.

  • http://www.alllooksame.com Tarzan Cooper

    Bron gets another triple-double (his 15th of the season)………… no way is this correct

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Ok, here is the million dollar question: would you rather give $10+ mil to David Lee or Carlos Boozer?

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Larry Hughes is sort of awesome. I stand corrected.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    I think Holly meant this 15th of his CAREER.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Second team better have Yao Ming.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Damn. Thats a great question TAD. Like I suspect most teams will do, I might just save the money.
    I’d probably have to say Booz if he’d sign for 4 years or less, but DLee if it had to be 5 or 6.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Although, Yao Ming is the only center in the league who can contain Dwight Howard, at least sort of. AND he almost always plays better than Superman in their matchups.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Lee is definitely going to worth a lot less on a team like Portland or SA though. He’s likely best on a team that runs and doesn’t defend, so its good that the Knicks want to keep him.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Betrayal Skull Dude is good, but he’ll leave the teams that he’s helped make good. Hence, Betrayal Skull Dude.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    I’m just asking because i’m deathly afraid that Dumars is going to offer either one or the other this summer. Thing is, Boozer actually has to opt-out of his contract, so Millsap may actually shake loose since they can’t afford to keep both players. The Knicks can match any offer made to Lee, but may not do that in order to save the cap space for 2010. I’m just praying Joe D. does his homework.

  • http://nicekicks.com MeloMan13

    @teddy: so what did shaq do then?

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    I don’t think offers for Lee will get much above $10 mill per, especially when the Knicks have been pretty clear about wanting to keep him. Booz seems like the better fit in Detroit, but I would definitely caution against signing him for 5 or more seasons.

  • http://nicekicks.com MeloMan13

    and that Mike taylor thing was crazzzy. thanx Holly

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    I’d say Millsap would be great in Detroit but he’s pretty similar to Maxiel, who has kind of disappointed me this season.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Yeah, 4 years and $50 mil sounds about right. The rest of the ’09 FA class is pretty much ‘meh’.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    I can’t blame Maxiell. Some coaches just don’t like some players; Curry seems to not appreciate Maxiell. Not exactly sure why? They only thing ever mentioned was that Max didn’t go after defensive boards with the same intesity as offensive boards, but that shouldn’t result in DNP-CD’s.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    In today’s economy, TAD, I’d say that neither gets 10 mil this offseason. I just don’t know if Lee is THAT good or a by-product of his system. He has talent and a knack for the ball, that’s for sure. But he’s really the only big they play so I don’t know if he could get that 16-12 in any team. And he gives you nothing on defense, he has 3 blocks in his last 20 games. Maybe I’m underrating him but I feel that Millsap is the better player. So…. to answer the question… I’d take him over Booze but not for 10 mil.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    2 things that I don’t get :
    1) Maxiell riding the bench HARD.
    2) Big Baby playing over Powe. I mean did Leon sleep with the owner’s daughter or something? How is it not crystal clear that he’s a better basketball player than Davis?

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    Ciolkstar: I believe Lebron has 25 triple doubles (three in the post-season) but I may be wrong on that.
    In other news, I’ve learned that the power 4 position is by far the HARDEST position to make a “top 10″ list for. God dauymn.

  • http://www.kicksonfire.com Anton

    Ummm Dwyane who?
    That was the craziest comeback of the season.

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    Also, I’d take Boozer over Milsap 80% of the time, but on the Jazz, I think I like Milsap over Boozer… does that make sense to anyone?

  • http://www.kicksonfire.com Anton

    Oh and LeBron’s triple double was not the 15th of the season, it was his fifth. 21st of his career.

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    my sentiments exactly. Seems a 20/10 against the cavs can’t earn Leon any respect from Doc. Free the show already

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    Oh and on the Ariza thing. Was he really going for the ball? This picture leads me to think that he just didn’t want Rudy to dunk. ball or no ball. http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-spw-lakersweb11-2009mar11,0,6782391.story

  • Michael

    Z-bo is the most inefficient player ever. It’s one thing for a gaurd like Iverson or Kobe to jack up shots and shoot a low percentage, but for a guy 6’11″ to shoot 43 percent for his career is ridiculous.

  • Michael

    1st- Wade, Kobe, Bron, Duncan, Dwight
    2nd- Deron, CP3, Dirk,Yao, Kg i guess
    3rd- Roy, Parker, Granger, Bosh, Shaq by default.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    I think Powe should be playing more than baby as well, but I think Doc thinks Baby is a better midrange jumps hooter who can help spread the floor better for Rondo and Pierce, especially with KG out.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    ciolkstar, I understand that argument. Power NEVER takes jumpers, ever. But see that’s the thing, Davis only TAKES jumpers, they never go in. Is that stretching the D?

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    I think Millsap is better than Boozer on a team that can score enough without their PF getting 15-20 shots. So I see where you’re coming from, Jukai. The jazz have no problems scoring the ball with Deron, Okur, even Brewer, Korver and CJ Miles. Boozer is clearly a better shoter/scorer than Millsap, but I don’t think he’s as a good a rebounder or defender.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    I agree with you Z. Its not even like Baby has good form, his J is hideous. But he mut’ve made a sh!tload of them in practice or something because Doc lets him shoot them. And yes, even just standing out on the wing threatening to shoot, helps spread the floor.

  • http://www.alllooksame.com Tarzan Cooper

    anybody catch vince’s article about melo over at nbadotcom?

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com DP

    Good to be home. been gone to long with school and sh*t but anyways is it just me or is Mo williams the f*cking truth? we always breed em right.

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    No, but really, any other top-10 list is pretty easy to pick out. You got Duncan, best 4 guy in NBA history, easily. Then you got Malone, a tid bit overrated, but great enough to grab a number two spot on the list. Bob Pettit rounds up three, Barkley at four, and KG at five. Then it gets hard. I guess McHale gets a nod for six, and I couldn’t leave Hayes out… Who the hell else is there? McAdoo, but I don’t know much about him. DeBusschere? Hawkins? Kemp? Haywood? Webber? DIRK? There appears to be a huge lack of godly talented 4s as NBA all-time greats.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    I think all-time top 10 lists are a waste of time. Its impossible to accurately compare and rank players from different generations.

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    Of course it’s impossible. But I love them anyawys. It starts conversation and usually generates facts and opinions you never knew or thought of. Plus, I love calling people c*ckgoblers for doing something like placing Reggie Miller over Pete Maravich or something.
    I’d make an Arenas over Iverson joke now, but I don’t want to upset Russ again.

  • Michael

    Why do so few peopl bring up Pettit when talking about the best Power forwards. Obviously i never watched him play, but he won a couple of championships, two MVPS, 4 all star game MVPs.

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    Michael: He’s white.

  • http://slamonline.com Holly MacKenzie

    Ooops on the Dunleavy/Murphy mix up. I think I had Dun Sr. on the brain after watching Zach Randolph kill his soul on that final play in the Clips/Cavs game. My apologies!

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    Hi Holly!

  • http://www.obviated.blogspot.com nick

    Holly, as to your NBA first team question: Yao should be the center. Averaging 20/10 as the prime offensive option on a team that’s third in the west (and would likely be better were it not for all the t-mac drama earlier this season) and is playing great ball now. Howard will win out, but unjustly–Yao consistently outplays howard head to head.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Jukai: He played 50 freakin years ago. THATS way no one brings him up.

  • whooo!

    wade/kobe/lebron/duncan/howard…….

    i can’t possibly justify forcing chris paul and deron in there. all nba first team means you’re the top 2 AT YOUR POSITION. if there’s 4 guards, then 2 of them must be better, even if by a bit – and they get the nod for 1st team.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    How is 20-10 2 blocks more impressive than 21-14 and 4 blocks?! Last time I checked, Orlando had a better record than Houston with an injury to a star player as well. Unjust? Slow your roll, man.

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    Ciolkstar, I’ll add sarcasm tags around my post next time.

  • http://www.ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com Allenp

    Does Elgin Baylor count as a three or four? Why is Larry Bird listed as three when he spent the first part of his career playing mostly four?
    Where is James Worthy on JuKai’s list? Wes Unseld? Bob Lanier?
    Maurice Lucas was pretty good, although not an all-time great. Moses Malone is listed as a five, but he really was a four in size. And did you leave off Chris Webber?

  • Bruno

    How did Mo Williams put the Cavs 2 ahead after Al getting the Clips 2 ahead with a 3 point ball?
    there was a foul or is it the NBA already giving lebron’s team free points?
    and anyway, when will the “best player in the planet” step up and take clutch shots?!?!
    cause alll i ever saw was Boobie shooting with the clock going down… even Donyell Marshall.. and now, always Mo.
    just asking…

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    @Allenp: Apparently Baylor was a three, as noted by just about everyone. Larry Bird, I believe, played half his career at the three (the latter half), but I assume he’s a shooting guard because at all-star games and in the olympics, he mainly played the three spot. Larry was awesome at the four, he had post moves that no one gives him credit for, but when you think of Larry Bird, you think of him shooting the three or running a break like a three. So he’s a three.
    James Worthy, I THOUGHT, was a three. Wes Unself and Bob Lanier, I’m SURE were centers. Moses Malone played the five, so I’m giving him the five spot. Duncan has the size and plays more like a center, but he’s at the power forward spot, so he’s a power forward.
    And yes, I did mention Webber. Would Webber crack my top ten? That’s a toughie. Let me think about that one.

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    sorry, “assumed he’s a shooting guard” should be “assumed he’s mainly a small forward.” There, now it reads better.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    Is Duncan really a four? I think he came up in an era where big guy didn’t want to be labelled as 5 to show that they were versatile. But, when you think about it, he’s been playing the 5 ever since D-Rob retired and he still does now. Don’t tell me that Bonner or Kurt Thomas play the 5. / It’s crazy that when I think of Bird, I immediatly thinks about 3 point shots but when you look at his stats… he has never taken more than 3 a game and his % are not off the charts. He’s a career 38% shooter from deep.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    For history’s sake, Duncan is considered a 4.

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    Z: Duncan can play both the 4 and 5 spot equally well. I tend to notice (although this may just be the games I watch, and not exactly be Pop’s gameplan), that when a team puts their starting power forward on Duncan, he plays more like a center: posting up, taking a lot of hook shots or up and under layups, lots of offensive rebound, put-back dunks… but when another team’s center is put on Duncan, Duncan plays farther away from the basket, shoots a lot of bank shots from midrange, faces the basket a lot more to score, scores a lot more on cuts. He’s really so much more of a match-up nightmare than people think because he IS so versatile that he can play in ways that the defender just isn’t use to guarding.
    And in regards to Larry Bird, dude shot over 40% from the three during six seasons. Yet shot under 30% for three seasons. I don’t know the reason for this, but that’s why his career shooting is a bit underwhelming.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    Fair enough, Duncan does have a tremendous inside-outside game. It just seems far fetched to me to say that Matt Bonner is the Spurs’ center instead of Duncan / Jukai, what really surprised me are the attempts per game (only 3). LeBron shoots 5 threes a game this year! A shooter like Ray Allen used to put up 8 a game… I’m too young to have watched Bird in his prime but that tells me that he was way more than a 3-point shooter. How did he get his?

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    Dribble-drives, post ups, pull ups, catch and shoot? All of the above?

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    Z, your comment reminded me of an old Sports Illustrated interview I pulled up:
    “Yeah, it’s all they talk about,” he said of his ability from the three-point line. “Everybody looks at me as a three-point shooter, but I didn’t shoot a lot of them.”
    Bird attempted a scant 1.9 threes per game in 13 seasons. In 2000-01, the year before he retired, his long-range attempts peaked at 3.3. But that’s still a low rate by today’s standards: There are 72 players attempting more than 3.3 threes this season alone.
    “I felt like the game is won down in the paint,” Bird said. “I didn’t shoot them until the end of the game. If I shot one early, it was probably on the road.” When he wanted to make a dramatic impact in an opponent’s gym, he means to say.


    Bird believes the three-point shot is overrated.
    “If somebody hits two or three earlier in the game, it don’t bother me at all,” he said. “But if a team hits a three-pointer with 18 seconds to go to put them up by three, you’re sitting there going, Come on. You know the game ain’t over, but at the end of the game I think it does something to you mentally.”
    It makes him laugh to think that he’s so closely associated with a shot he attempted so rarely.
    “People [remember] me at the three-point contest, but I didn’t practice going into that contest,” Bird said. “If I was going to waste my time shooting, it was going to be inside that line because that was where I shot from during the game.”

  • http://www.ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com Allenp

    Great nuggets on Bird.

  • Canuck

    Correct Bruno, the NBA decided to give the Cavs an extra point because LeBron plays for them ya flaming moron.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Yeah, great stuff on Bird there. I’d always thought about him as a three point shooter as well (not to the extent of a Ray Allen, but I thought it was a pretty big part of his game), but the guy was really just a pure scorer from everywhere on the floor. The thing about the game being won in the paint really sticks for me. I remember watching some old Jordan games on ESPN and marvelling at the amount of times J was getting to the rim, I mean, it was just layup after (exceedingly difficult)layup. He really perfected the jumper and turnaround as he got older and it made him unstoppable, but his (and Larry’s) bread and butter was always in the lane.

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    {Jukai Posted: Mar.11 at 1:02 pm
    Also, I’d take Boozer over Milsap 80% of the time, but on the Jazz, I think I like Milsap over Boozer… does that make sense to anyone?}
    ________________________________________________
    Sounds like one of them, “60% of the time it works everytime” stat lines.

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    Larry mainly a 3 point shooter? So wrong it hurts. He did EVERYTHING the team needed on the court. Lethal jumpshot, fantastic passing. Crafty D. Post moves, fadeaways. Apart from the usual highlights, i remember watching celtics games and always seeing Larry in the right spot, doing mostly the right thing. Quite like Pip in his prime, with 1/10th the athletiscm.

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    Dallas just swept the Portland regular season series. Matchups are a b*tch aren’t they? So to recap, Dallas while struggling to hold on to that 8 spot for the playoffs, beat their closest rivals for said spot on the road (Phoenix) and then went on to Portland to conquer the mighty Lakerbeaters of last weekend. Hmm, all this with their second leading scorer out of action and their Microwave light playing with a protective layer on his (not quite healed) hand. Yeah, they be so soft, them Mavs. In a way i prefer this gelling late in the season to dominant 68 win seasons and being too confident for the postseason. Dirk Nowitzki, haters. Yueahhh! (ironically WITZ means joke in german, so Dirk is NOJOKE!). That Dagger 3 to end all Blazer hopes of a comeback was, suhweet.

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    @Dacre: you’ve got to include Will Smith’s “my sh*t always works…most of the time” line from Bad Boys 2. Brilliant

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