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Thursday, March 19th, 2009 at 9:07 am  |  121 responses

The Post Up: Overtime Madness

The C’s, Heat, Houston and Detroit get us ready for NCAA opening day.

by Holly MacKenzie

Big night on the schedule to discuss today since of course, it was Wednesday.

Before we begin. I beg of you, please, please, please, read this article. The best thing I’ve ever read about Lamar Odom. Beautifully written piece.

I often say that Lamar Odom is my favorite Laker not named Kobe, that more than just a favorite Laker, he’s one of my favorite people in the entire league. I can’t really explain it, except to say you can feel his heart. He’s just good. I wrote about LO for our Top 50 this summer and I encourage every single one of you to check this piece out. Read it now, read it later today, save it for the weekend. I don’t care when, but do make sure you read it.

I skipped out on the Miami/Boston game because I had some other writing work to finish, felt better about it when I realized half of each team was missing, then wanted to kick myself when I saw that it went into overtime. Gutsy showing from the rooks, Chalmers and Beasley.

I said last week I really have been impressed with Mario and I had no fewer than a a handful of people jump down my throat. Sounds like he was doing alright, last night.

Honestly, I am OFFICIALLY officially on the Twitter bandwagon. I know we’ve all heard more than we needed to about it since yesterday and the Skiles/CV31/Twitting@halftime debacle, but man. If you can’t catch something live, fire that thing up and you will get instant updates from every arena (and ball fan watching at home). It’s fantastic.

Okay, bball. We’re going the short recap route again today because to be honest, 11 games are just too many. Not to flip through, but to recap, yup. At least on the eve of…. March Madness!

And….. my bracket still has not been filled out.

I somehow convinced (or charmed, I’d like to think),  a friend who just happens to have been a part of the Orange into passing along the team hoodie from their senior year. I think we all know what I will be living in for the next few weeks. At least on game days. You know it.

My word. I’m so behind and am failing at this week! Okay basketball.

The Hornets escaped with a 94-93 victory over the Timberwolves after Randy Foye’s jumper rimmed out at the buzzer in NO last night. Chris Paul set up David West for a dunk with 12 seconds remaining that gave the Hornets the lead and the game. CP3 finished with 26 points, 10 assists and 5 steals. West had 14 and 8, Rasual Butler had 14 and 7 and Hilton Armstrong added 12. Kevin Love had 23 and 11 for the Wolves as Ryan Gomes added 17 points in the loss.

The Kings went to Charlotte and got blown out by the Bobcats. Rashad McCants had 30 points in the start for Sacramento, Francisco Garcia had 17 and Jason Thompson added 12 points and 11 boards in the loss. Gerald Wallace led the Bobcats with 25 points and 12 rebounds as Emeka Okafor added 16 points, 10 rebounds and 4 blocked shots and Raymond Felton had 14 points to go with 7 assists as the Bobcats outscored Sacramento 26-18 in the fourth quarter to run away with the game, 104-88.

Boston took down the Wade-less Heat 112-108, but it took them overtime and 21 fourth quarter/overtime points from Paul Pierce. Without Wade, his rookies stepped up as Mario Chalmers scored 19 points to go with 9 assists and Michael Beasley added 21 points to give the Celtics a scare. Jermine O’Neal had 17 points and 6 assists for the heat. Paul Pierce was the savior for the Celtics with 36 points, 11 rebounds and 5 assists while Rajon Rondo continued to show his worth, scoring 27 points and dishing 10 assists as Eddie House added 16 off of the bench. With the Heat trailing 100-99, Chalmers hit a free throw to tie the game at 100 and send it to overtime. In the extra session, the Celtics ran out to a quick eight point lead before Chalmers hit back to back three-pointers to keep it close. In the end, Pierce iced the game on free throws for the C’s.

The Pacers lost another game to the Blazers, this time falling, 95-85, behind Brandon Roy’s 20 points, 6 rebounds and 6 assists. The Pacer offense died in the fourth and they were outscored 30-19 in the period. Travis Outlaw scored 15 off of the bench and Joel Pryzbilla had a 10-point, 11-rebound double-double. Danny Granger appeared to have found his footing in his second game back, scoring 35 points to lead the Pacers offensively. He grabbed 10 rebounds as well. Jarrett Jack scored 13 points and Roy Hibbert added 14 in the start for Troy Murphy.

Orlando killed Milwaukee, 106-80. They were up 30 after two. Bring back twittering @ the half! Dwight Howard had 28 points, 12 rebounds, 7 assists and 2 blocked shots. Charlie Villanueva had 17 for the Bucks.

John Salmons has been enjoying his time in Chicago. Last night he had 20 and Derrick Rose added 25 as the Bulls defeated the Thunder 103-96. Kevin Durant scored 28 points for the Thunder while Jeff Green added 18.

Denver won a close one against Memphis, 111-109. In the race for playoff seeding, it was a crucial game for the Nuggets. It was one Carmelo Anthony wanted and he made sure they got it, pouring in 35 points on the night as Chauncey Billups added 18 points and 12 assists, Nene had 19 and JR Smith added 21 off of the bench. Rudy Gay scored 30 for the Grizz as Hakim Warrick and OJ Mayo each added 16 and Mike Conley dished 10 assists in the loss.

Houston and Detroit was a good game that went into double overtime before the Pistons finally ran out of gas. Without Rasheed Wallace and Rip Hamilton, Antonio McDyess and Aaron Afflalo stepped up again, (14 points and 20 boards for Dyess, 24 points for Afflalo), and Rodney Stuckey added 21 points to go with 10 assists as the Pistons forced overtime on a free throw from Stuckey. In the first overtime, again, the Rockets were in control and again, it was Stuckey who tied it up. By the time the second overtime hit, the Rockets were ready to finish the game off and rang off a 10-0 run to put the game just far enough out of reach for the Pistons. Yao Ming finished with 31 points, 15 rebounds and 4 blocked shots, Ron Artest had 26 points as Aaron Brooks and Luis Scola each added 14 points.

The Suns were able to pull away from the Sixers in the second half, thanks to the Sixers road weary legs after a buzzer beating win against the Lakers Tuesday night. In the final quarter the Suns outscored Philly 33-25. They also outrebounded the Sixers 44-31 on the night. Jason Richardson had 25 points while Shaquille O’Neal had 26 points, 11 rebounds and 3 blocked shots. Steve Nash added 24 points and 10 assists as the Suns had 25 assists to only 8 turnovers. The Sixers were led by 23 points apiece from Thaddeus Young and Andre Miller while Louis Williams added 21 off of the bench in the loss.


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  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    Lebron > Kobe

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    I’m sorry, I’m sorry. I like how my Suns are picking up the pace right after it seems impossible for them to get a playoff spot. Go team!
    You forgot to add Barbosa went down bad on his leg and I doubt he’s going to be playing in the next few games.
    No love for Baron Davis? Dude got 20 assists! Clippers don’t look too awful now that the entire roster is healthy.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Kobe…LeBron…Jordan.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Ok, my work is done. Hi Jukai.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Stupid Spoelstra.

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    Hi TADOne. Hi Eboy.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    A Kevin Love statistical update! Yes! Good morning!
    Tue 3/17 @ SAS: 32 min, 17 points (7-11 FG), 19 rebounds
    Wed 3/18 @ NOH: 33 min, 23 points (6-11FG, 11-13 FT), 11 rebounds
    The fat kid averages 20 and 15 in back-to-back road games! What! WHAT??!?!?!?!??!?!?!

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    Unrelated: Twitter can eat a bag of d*cks. Sorry Holly.

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    Ryan, if Kevin Love was somehow traded to a Lebron James lead team, would you have an orgasm?

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    E, you are blaming the Heat loss on the coach?

  • http://lastknickstanding.blogspot.com Bryan

    I thought Love would put up 11 and 7 his rookie year, he’s a better rebounder than I thought for sure. When he hits like 24 or 25 he is gonna challenge Howard for the rebounding title.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Yes, I am, TAD…..good morning everyone.

  • http://www.obviated.blogspot.com nick

    I was happy to see the rockets win with only occasional instances of ron artest going off the reservation.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Great game in Houston too…..short handed squads are FIESTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Expound on that E, if you will. Also, why was Wade not playing?

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Wade sat because of his hip…..I think they thought they could win without him against a short handed Celts team….but Spo fu*ked around and limited Beasley’s minutes late in the game and went away from him when he was red hot, leaving JO to try and carry the load and put Chalmers in the postion to try and be Allen Iverson or Chauncey, singlehandly trying to score basket for basket with Paul down the stretch. Just as an aside…..Spoelstra didn’t put Beasley in the lineup until 2:20 left in the 3rd, after Beasley got hot through the second and then heated up again in the 4th. RIDE THE HOT HAND SPO……MAKE BELIEVE DWYANE IS PLAYING WHEN SOMEONE ELSE IS SCORING IN BUNCHES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Well, ok then.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    You asked. Sorry.

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    Maybe Chalmers is actually Spolestra’s dealer?

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Possibly…..although I think Spo looks more like he’d be into coke than canibus.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    DISCLAIMER: That was a joke.

  • http://www.obviated.blogspot.com nick

    Disclaimer duly noted, but, i mean, look at the guy. You may be onto something.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    I did ask. As an aside: I really hope Afflalo gets more burn even after Rip comes back. AI is getting more tests done on his back, so it appears he’ll be out longer.

  • http://www.obviated.blogspot.com nick

    Also,don’t they make customized band-aid’s for hip injuries?

  • http://www.obviated.blogspot.com nick

    Tad: coming from the houston perspective, Afflalo looked good last night. He worked his @ss off running obnoxious basline to baseline curls and kept the pistons in the game even with battier dogging him all night. Pretty impressive.

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    You know, last night was the first time I REALLY focused on watching Wafer. Man, is that dude fast. Trading Tauren Green for him looks really raelly REALLY dumb right now.

  • http://www.obviated.blogspot.com nick

    @ Jukai–Wafer has been a pleasant surprise…i think for the last 4 years he’s been caught in the Gerald Green Memorial “Insanely Athletic and Talented but also Mildly Retarded, thus preventing the regular rotation minutes necessary to overcome said mild retardation” zone. Honestly, he would have never broken the rotation were it not for the T-mac injury. Adelman has been good building up his confidence, too, and has basically given him a green light to shoot when he’s in with the 2nd unit.

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    Strange, can’t seem to post anything today on Post up. Oh well, off to bother Ryne then.

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    Ahhh, the threat worked, it seems. My 2 cents on Twitter? After just shortly ago getting comfy with FB (and “friends” updating their oh so interesting status every few minutes) i’m soooo looking forward to an even faster, insta-update service. L’uvly.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Nick, i’ve been pining for Afflalo to get more playing time all year. He still makes too many turnovers for my liking, but he can shoot and plays great defense. He was basically playing the Rip role in the offense last night.

  • http://www.obviated.blogspot.com nick

    Afflalo was using those screens well. He shoots well, he’s athletic, and, unlike certain back-problem-possessing gentlemen who play the same position, seems to stick to the team concept that makes the Pistons worthwhile.

  • Blue

    @ Nick – Yeah…I’m glad Von is starting to figure out that you won’t get penalized for passing the ball either. If only Ron Artest would figure that out at the end of games…

  • http://www.obviated.blogspot.com nick

    Von’s discovery of the pass button has been a pleasant one. with artest… that’d be nice. I was about to punch the TV last night when Yao had scored something like 7 straight points and artest called him out of the post to set a pick.

  • http://where-basketball-b-longs.blogspot.com/ B. Long

    Rodney Stuckey played his damn heart out last night. Tough loss for Detroit.

  • http://www.obviated.blogspot.com nick

    Those two stuckey finishes late in the game (particularly the one where he split a hayes-lowry trap, took to the basket, got blocked by scola but still managed to triple clutch the ball in) were damn impressive.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    If only heart=made field goals, then the Pistons would have won. 8-25 is horrible.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

    Bobcats FTP

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

    FTP = for the playoffs

  • http://www.obviated.blogspot.com nick

    Maybe tad or one of the pistons people can answer this…but, as hubie accurately (if somewhat annoyingly) pointed out last night, Aaron brooks doesn’t have a snowball’s chance in hell of guarding stuckey in the post. Given the injuries, why didn’t curry trot that play out there a few more times?

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    They’re getting closer, BET.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

    I WIN

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Nick, i’m not even sure. I wish I could honestly answer that question for you. Flip Saunders, Curry is not.

  • http://mindyourbusiness@getalife.com Allenp

    I gotta admit that Ryan may have been right about Love.
    I was bashing him because of all the crazy love he was getting from announcers, but dude looks good now that Al Jefferson is gone.
    The problem is going to be whether he and Al can play together. Too bad Memphis and Minnesota made that trade. The Grizz need another big body and the Wolves need a real shooter. Mike Miller is bogus.

  • http://www.obviated.blogspot.com nick

    BET, they do seem to be the only team fighting for the last spot without significant injuries (Harris, Redd, Bogut) or fatal flaws (Unwillingness to play defense, vinny del negro).

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

    that is why we will get it!

  • http://nicekicks.com MeloMan13

    wow. i just read that article Holly.
    i used to hate Lamar for beeing so arrogant on the court and shy under pressure, but after reading that, how could u not root for the guy?

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    However, if I were to gather a guess, it was probably due to the shot blocking abilities of Yao and Dikembe.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

    its the remix! Manny Fresh and Doctor Face! Got a bank roll and i almost caught a case!

  • http://where-basketball-b-longs.blogspot.com/ B. Long

    Good guess, Tad. And considering no one else on the Pistons even looked like they wanted to shoot, I think Rodney’s self designed offense of “drive to the basket with reckless abandon” was fun to watch.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

    in honor of my high self esteem, i will only use my thumbs to type from now on.

  • http://www.obviated.blogspot.com nick

    Something like that. It seemed to work, the 3 times they ran it.

  • http://www.obviated.blogspot.com nick

    B–Give the rockets some credit…i’m pretty sure Tayshaun wanted to shoot, but he and ron artest were inhabiting the sam pair of shorts for most of the evening.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

    i hope da bucks commit sucide.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Question to whomever can answer: when you get your shot blocked, does that count as a missed field goal?

  • http://mindyourbusiness@getalife.com Allenp

    TAD
    Yes,

  • http://iwantoutofokc.com/ James the balla

    I hope Charlotte makes it so BET is happy. O wait… I don’t give a fu(k. Charlotte sucks balls. And I smell a couple injuries coming next game for them. Hopefully an ACTUAL team like Chicago make it in. Or who ever plays Charlotte in the first round can rest the starting 5 and let the bench toy with the cats!!

  • http://iwantoutofokc.com/ James the balla

    I have a question as well Tad. What is BA, Block Att?

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    E, I’m starting to think that Spoelstra just don’t like dude! Limiting the minutes and showing the ropes can only explain so much.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    Is there a rebound on a blocked shot since it’s a missed fg? Does it fall into the team rebound category?

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    I’m not sure about that one, James. And yes Z, I believe so.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

    oh james is so cute! The Bulls are a actual team? They are about as real as the Sonics, all legacy nothing today. That is why the Bobcats won the Season series between them, and during this season series, DJ AUGSTIN OUT PLAYED DERRICK ROSE WHILE COMMING OF THE BENCH.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Here is the answer, James:
    blocked against
    Blocks Against- How many times the other team blocked that players shot(s)

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

    And James, if we suck, WHY DO WE CONSTANTLY SH!T ON YOUR LAKERS?

  • Squirrel7

    How ironic that articles surfaced in the last few days about Wade managing to play 82, and he then sits the next game!

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

    now go worship your hard foulin, injury plauged, lead by a r@pist, Lakers.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    BA = Blocked Attempt

  • http://iwantoutofokc.com/ James the balla

    He that is what I thought STAR. But TAD says blocks against, and that seems more realistic.

  • http://iwantoutofokc.com/ James the balla

    See* that is

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Danny Granger came back strong last night dropped a cool 35, hitting 5 of 9 threes, and added 10 boards. Melo went hard at some isht talker and squeezd off 35 including the game winning and 1. My fantasy team is happy.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Oh and for all those haters who claim that Rondo only gets his numbers because he’s on the floor with KG, Pierce and Allen. How do you like 27 and 10 on crazy FG shooting? He’s been killing it without KG and last night without Allen. The kid can flat out do work in this league. Sure, he’s got some flaws, but denying his talent is just ludicrous. Not to mention the fact that he’s been playing on a sprained ankle for the last week or so.

  • Sebastian B. O. Bunionstow, esq.

    Here’s to fatness: there’s alot to love with Love. He’s getting some burn with Big Al out, and some well deserved recognition.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ BETCATS

    Roooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooondo

  • Squirrel7

    Rondo’s shooting is still a weak-link that opponents will try to exploit once the playoffs roll around. And scoring when your best players are out doesn’t prove your talent, still being able to get numbers like that when they are healthy shows real talent. I admit he has talent, but he wouldn’t be half the player without his 3 HoF team-mates, and if I see him do that round-the-back fake once more I’ll scream!

  • http://iwantoutofokc.com/ James the balla

    My Sparq training gear just arrived. Effing Eastbay … about darn time!!

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    Squirrel7 is the definition of a hater. If he doesn’t score more with guys out then he can’t take over, if he does, well it’s to be expected. He’s feeding 3 all-stars for god’s sake, you really expect him to get big scoring numbers? Rondo is a very good, not great pg. Top 10 in the L. Can he live?

  • Squirrel7

    If you read my post, I didn’t say he had no talent, I just said I thought he was overrated. Hell, Eddie House looks half-decent on that Boston team. I know he is more than capable of taking over when the rest of the Big-3 are out, and his numbers in general are by no means bad, but it’s pretty hard to judge a player when he is on one of those most stacked-rosters in the league. People hate on CP3 for racking up assists on ‘easy’ passes (ie. alley-oops to TC), but there’s a lot of easy passes when 3 of your team-mates are potential HoF’ers. And I don’t think he has the court vision of the great point-guards either (Nash, CP3, Deron, etc.).

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    Rondo’s WAY better than I thought.
    Also, if someone blocks a shot and another person catches that blocked shot, I’m pretty sure there is no rebound given to anyone. I could be wrong though.

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    Squirrel: No one compares Rondo to Nash, CP3, or Deron. That being said, he’s getting his assists WITHOUT the big three, and he’s getting his points WITH the big three. It’s hard to take anything away from him. He’s a top 5-10 point guard in the L right now. I used to hate, but I can’t do it any longer.

  • Squirrel7

    While both good players, I think Rondo and Parker are very similar, in the way they play the game (offensively), and the fact that despite decent assist numbers, they rarely spot the pass no-one else can see, and many of those assists are on simple dishes to high-percentage shooters. That’s what I think separates a good and great point-guard, the ability to see openings no-one else can.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    There has to be at least a team rebound for every missed shot. Kinda like if the ball goes out of bounds off of a missed shot. / The ones who say that CP3 racks up ‘easy’ assists because of alley oops are dishonest. An assist is an assist. Nobody ever claimed that Rondo had the court vision of those 3 guys. Whats your point?

  • Squirrel7

    Jukai, you’re saying he’s potentially a top-5 point guard in the league, so surely be default you’re comparing him to Nash, CP3, Deron and whoever you consider to be #4 on that list…..

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    Squirrel7: There is a big problem with what you’re saying: you’re judging point guards, and not players. Nash is a better POINT GUARD than Tony Parker right now. Tony Parker is a better PLAYER than Nash right now.
    Tony Parker has way better court vision than you’re giving him credit for, though.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    C-C-C-C-C-Chauncey!!!!!

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    hey James, eastbay is a lifesaver for ballers. Love that concept, haven’t touched store offered ball gear in 10 years. Eastbay rocks.

  • Squirrel7

    I’d expect that, with Nash’s age and injury history, he might not be a better player than Parker right now. I agree though that he is a far better PG. And Z, as for my point, I was merely stating that to be considered in the upper-tier of PGs in the league, you should expect to be compared with the cream of the crop (which in this case is Deron, CP3 and Nash), and I think he falls considerably short of these 3.

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    If I were to make a point guard list very fast without thinking, it would be: CP3, Williams, Parker, Nash, Billups, Bibby, Rondo, Harris, Rose, West.
    Mo Williams is a shooting guard to me.
    Alright, I made it. Let the shouting at me begin.

  • http://www.twitter.com/TheDiesel Anton

    So I got a Twitter account and have no idea what’s going on. I think I told Jason Richardson to slow the f*ck down.

  • http://iwantoutofokc.com/ James the balla

    This was the first time Eastbay took like 2 weeks to get me my sh1t. I got a few pairs of shotos and some weight resistance parachutes, and ankle bands and sh1t. Took two weeks though. It was killin’ me!!

  • Squirrel7

    I agree that Mo is more of a 2. I pretty much agree with your list, but I would maybe switch Nash (depending on the criteria), and I would have Harris above Rondo. Not sure I’d have Bibby higher than those 2 though.

  • Squirrel7

    *switch Nash and Parker, I meant. And I assume by West you mean Delonte? If so, I’d probably have Baron higher, if he could stay healthy (a big ‘if’!)

  • http://iwantoutofokc.com/ James the balla

    Derek Fisher goes higher on the list come playoffs. For D and ability to make big shots!!

  • http://iwantoutofokc.com/ James the balla

    O and Jameer has been my homie for like 4 years now. He is sick. If you ever get a chance to see vdieo of him training. He is a beast.

  • Squirrel7

    I must admit, I don’t watch D-Fish that much (as I’m not a fan of the Lakers), but whenever I do, he doesn’t seem to do much but brick (or even airball) a decent number of shots, then hit 1 clutch one that everyone will remember. Would this be a fair assessment? If not, I stand corrected. All the hype about him being ‘an emotional leader’ usually means less talented than team-mates, in my opinion!

  • http://iwantoutofokc.com/ James the balla

    Watch him in the playoffs. D Will can’t handle the fish market!!

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    Jameer didn’t make my cut cause of injuries. Forgot about Baron though– dude dropped 20 assists yesterday, you gotta have skill to do that.
    I would not be upset if anyone put D-Fish on a top ten list. He is a ridiculously underrated talent.

  • http://iwantoutofokc.com/ James the balla

    A little Ghost Face reference in that last post for the hip hoppers out there!

  • http://iwantoutofokc.com/ James the balla

    Agreed Jukai. It makes FIsh dangerous because he is underrated.

  • Squirrel7

    I think Baron is one of the biggest wasted talents of the last 10 years. Not necessarily through any fault of his own, but his numerous injury problems have slowed him down, and you have to wonder if disputes with previous teams would have occurred if he’d been healthy 24/7 and producing the goods. When he’s healthy and in-shape though, there’s very few in the league better than him, in my opinion.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    I saw some highlights of Baron in GSate a couple days ago, and it felt like I was watching highlights from 10 years ago. Dude had it all, the dunk on Kirilenko is one of my alltime favorite basketball moments, but I just feel betrayed by him this season.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    And sorry, but Derek Fisher = meh

  • http://iwantoutofokc.com/ James the balla

    Derek Fisher = Heart Breaker, don’t hate.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    ‘I would not be upset if anyone put D-Fish on a top ten list. He is a ridiculously underrated talent.’ Top 10 most likely to have a career in public affairs, Top 10 wealthiest people named Fisher in California. What top 10 are you talking about?

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    To me, saying that Nash is a better point guard and Parker is a better player is semantics. Every team in the L would rather have Parker then Nash running the point for them at this point in their respective careers. That makes Parker the better point guard right now even though he’s not as good of a passer.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Izzo

    Well,my bracket’s ruined already….

  • http://lastknickstanding.blogspot.com Bryan

    I would rather have nash than parker on offense at any point in their careers. And its not like parker is all nba defense either so I beg to differ.

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    Z: Not ENTIRELY with you there, but I see your point.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Izzo : Is that even possible? Do you have BYU is the elite or something?

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    Although, I will concede that Nash has been playing much better ball lately. 15 and 10 at 35 years old is not too shabby.

  • http://www.another48minutes.blogspot.com Gerard Himself

    Holly, that Lamar Odom is indeed great. Thanks for posting that link.

  • http://www.twitter.com/TheDiese Anton

    And yet, I still hate him because he’s a laker.

  • http://jamescleaton.ning.com jaymes

    I knew Beasley was a scorer, but last night showed me just how potent he really is..With the right hand too…Biiiigggg future!

  • thesubwayconnection

    GO ORANGE.

  • thesubwayconnection

    And Holly, I envy that hoodie.

  • BostonBaller

    I co-sign ciolkstar about Rondo doing his thing and the haters can hate. Rondo is one of the top PG’s in the game today and that doesn’t mean he has to be considered just as good as the top 3 or 4 but it does mean most GM’s would take him over their current PG. No elite PG is elite unless he has someone to pass too, you can’t say Rondo has it easy b/c he has 3 HOFers b/c Magic had a few to tooss it too also (I’m not comparing his talent w/ Magic’s so HUSH. lol)I’m just saying that Rondo gets the ball to the guys at the right time so how can you argue against that? CP3 would not have the assists he does if he didn’t have guys who could put it in the whole, BBall is a simple game folks.

  • BostonBaller

    Rondo’s pet move works so I guess we’ll hear the screams. He quarterbacked a championship team last year so he did something right AND he has improved. He more than holds his own against the elite PG’s EVERY time he plays them. Check the numbers.

  • BostonBaller

    CPaul
    DWill
    Billups
    Nash
    TParker
    Rondo
    DHarris
    Rose
    Kidd
    Is Brandon Roye considered a PG?

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    The Houston-Pistons game was a beauty. Ron Artest is THE best lockdown defender in the game right now. Ron Artest and Yao Ming have solidified their status as one of the best duos in the NBA AND the Rockets have the best bench.
    Also, keep your eyes out for Rodney Stuckey. He was mad clutch during last night’s game, getting to the basket at will despite solid defensive pressure all game. I really believe Stuckey is going to be a future All-Star. Along with Wilson Chandler and of course Kevin Durant, the sophomores of the NBA are going to be one crazy @ss draft class.
    OKAY SEE YOU GUYS LATER!

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    @ nick: Ron Artest is a good passer, and he passes loads to Yao. Don’t worry.

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    Beasley is smoove. Oh and the warriors closing the gap in the 4th earlier tonight in Lala-land? Don’t flatter yourselves guys, 1 pass posessions do not make a comeback, even if they made some shots (Monta, Azuibuke especially). The lakers relaxed late in the 4th and stopped defending. I think the term is “toying with the opposition”.

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    @Jukai- 12:00pm
    When a player gets blocked and someone on the defensive team catches/regathers the ball, it is considered a steal/turnover. So if (for example) Deke blocks Kwame and grabs the richochete (sp?) he gets: 1 block, 1 steal- at least that is what it SHOULD be, and is considered so on occassion.
    It’s really an iffy choice though, because of the variables. Either way, for the offensive player (Kwame) he gets a BA and turnover.

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    Hursty: you’re definitely wrong on this. Or, I’m 85% sure you are. A block is a block and a steal is a steal, they’re two separate stats. I do think the team gets a rebound when a player gets a block though.

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