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Thursday, April 23rd, 2009 at 10:00 am  |  142 responses

Kevin Love: ‘I Was Screwed’

But it’s just more motivation.

by Marcel Mutoni

One thing has become abundantly clear with the Timberwolves’ Kevin Love: Whenever he feels wronged, we’re going to hear all about it. And for that, we should be thankful. As it makes for good reading.

Love was at it again yesterday, complaining about his finish in the Rookie of the Year voting. K-Love thought he should have finished a lot higher than he did.

The Pioneer Press reports:

Love said he had no quarrel with the selection of Chicago Bulls guard Derrick Rose, who won in a landslide with 574 points and 111 of the 120 first-place votes. He just didn’t feel there were five first-year players who played better than him during a season in which Love led all rookies in rebounding (9.1 per game) and double-doubles (29).

“Pardon my French, but it’s the second time I’ve gotten screwed,” he said from Los Angeles. “I definitely thought I would finish higher, but after the rookie-sophomore snub, I guess anything can happen…I guess I just needed to play a little better. Maybe a 30th double-double would have made a difference.”

“That’s kind of how I feel,” he said. “I’ll take care of my business this summer, either here in Los Angeles or in Minnesota, and come back a better player and try to help my team win. Hopefully, 15 years from now I’ll be able to look back on this and laugh.”

I love the biting sarcasm about the 30th double-double.

His reactions are almost enough to make one wish Kevin Love would get ‘screwed’ more often.

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  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    Yes.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    I’ll invite Kevin back to comment today, but I imagine he feels he’s said enough.

  • http://lastknickstanding.blogspot.com Bryan

    He has a point.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    If you don’t finish first, does it really matter?

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    This kid has been conversating with Jones too much. I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    He was like this long before he met me, Eboy.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    That’s true, TAD.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Let’s hope he can be convinced to comment today…..I’d love to hear what position he felt he SHOULD have been it.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    *in

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Yeah, he has a point, but in “30 years” he’ll be the only one who remembers whether he finished 3rd or 6th in ROY voting. He’s really funny though, and it was awesome that he came her to comment recently, so I’m officially rooting for him now.

  • German Reignman

    A.C. Green: “I have never been screwed!”

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    I see where he’s coming from but if the voters were allowed to vote for 3 guys, he didn’t get slighted at all. Rose, Westbrook and Lopez had better seasons than he did. Those are facts

  • Tavoris

    Rose obviously played better…that’s 1
    Russell Westbrook played better…that’s 2
    Brook Lopez played MUCH better…that’s 3
    OJ Mayo is a borderline all-star…that’s 4
    Michael Beasley played better (and is still playing)…that’s 5
    Jason Thompson played better ALL season…that’s 6.
    I can keep going, but just because u put up rebounding numbers on a team with NO ONE else who rebounds the ball doesn’t mean you outplayed anyone, K-Love…luv ya, but get real

  • Tavoris

    oh man I forgot about Eric Gordon (who reminds me A LOT of Mitch Richmond) who played better…Courtney Lee has been a rotation fixture (and the best perimeter defender) on the Magic since Feb…

  • http://mindyourbusiness@getalife.com Allenp

    I mean, you could make a legitimate case that Love was the fifth or sixth best rookie.
    Rose
    Mayo
    Lopez
    Westbrook
    Then, maybe, Love.
    But, like somebody said, Eric Gordon was beasting for a while and Beasley was productive in limited minutes as well.
    And with the rookie/soph game, Love wasn’t really playing well early in the season. He came on late.

  • riggs

    brook lopez > kevin love

  • http://www.broy7.com nate the great

    mhmmm. i dont really care.
    because if he knows he’s not first, why does it matter?
    who cares what people think.
    if he thinks hes good thats all that matters.
    if he wants to know what we think, then lets be honest.
    your fat, your good at chest passes (like a girl), and nobody likes you.
    When he came and played at canby (my highschool)(he went to lake o) nobody liked him.
    When it was a blazer and t’wolves show down, everyone booed louder for him, than they cheered for brandon roy.
    and that shows a lot.

  • Ritchie

    Kevin Love sucks.
    Ryan Jones sucks.
    I just noticed they have the same number in letters in their names.
    The number 9 sucks.

  • http://mindyourbusiness@getalife.com Allenp

    I just saw the voting story, and I think Love finishes just about right.
    He wasn’t better than Westbrook, Rose, Mayo or Lopez.
    It’s arguable who was better out of he and Gordon.
    What’s the big deal?

  • cdef28

    Ryan, just because the dude gets a couple rebounds on a team that misses many shots does not put him ahead of Mayo, Lopez or Westbrook.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    His middle name has six letters, Ritchie. Mine has seven. Sorry to ruin that for you. We can still suck, though, if it makes you feel better.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    cdef28, three things:
    1, GREAT choice of screen name.
    2, I never said I agreed with Kevin here, or that he was ahead of any of the guys that you mention. I just love to see him fired up.
    3, Thank you for addressing me by name. I feel like we really connected there.

  • Cizzo

    K-Love you did’nt win if D-Rose was still Memphis you still would’nt have won R.O.Y.. The Rookie Challenge a different story either way his argument is pointless!!!!!!!

  • http://double-technical.blogspot.com Zee!

    He’s feelin himself, suicide talk, he’s killin himself.

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    I hope Kevin Love continues his spectacular career of whining constantly.

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    HEY KEVIN, DO YOU WANT SOME CRIES WITH YOUR WAH BURGER?

  • cdef28

    Sorry, I didn’t bother reading all your comments because I find them irrelevant. Your love fest with Kevin Love needs to find a room.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    See, that actually was a pretty good comeback. Your alleged point is kind of negated by the fact that you spend time commenting on things you claim to find “irrelevant,” but I’m not here to nitpick.
    One other thing, though: This is my f*cking room.

  • cdef28

    I understand, I assumed you were saying that he did deserve to be in the top five by basing it on your past opinions on him. For that I am the wrong one.
    Kevin Love: ‘I Was Screwed By Ryan Jones’

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    tesy much today, ryan?

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    When did Kevin Love comment on this site? That’s awesome!

  • http://www.twitter.com/TheDiesel Anton

    Someone’s been eating his own glass spray.

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    I’m going to have to buy Kevin a shamwow, because I don’t think a normal paper towel would ABSORB ALL THOSE TEARS!!!

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Jukai is obviously hoping that Kevin will comment and he can try and annoy HIM too.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    cdef: I forgive you. And you can’t prove that.
    Z: They’re replacing the carpet in my office this week. I think I’m high on glue fumes.
    Eboy: Kevin has a list of people not to respond to.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    Teddy: Check my Farmer Pwnes joint from last week. The Real Kevin Love is, in fact, the real Kevin Love.

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    You know what Kevin should do about not getting into the top five ROY candidates? Cry a river, build a bridge, and get the F*CK over it.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    That list must be fabulous!

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Ju Ju…..why so stringent toward the Lone Wolf?

  • http://www.oprah.com doyouwantmore

    He sounds like a competitor though. A lot of guys just want to get that first big contract and chill for the rest of their lives.

  • cdef28

    By the way Ryan, cdef is my name abbreviated. It’s not what you think.

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    Eboy: Well, originally I was a bit disgruntled with the responses. If Kevin Love wasn’t such a likeable, fun-loving guy (imagine if DIRK or IVERSON or someone hatable nowadays whined about not being high enough in the MVP rankings), everyone would be telling him to keep his mouth shut and just play.
    But then I figured if Kevin Love did post here, he would probably call me a skinny f*g rag or something, and then I could gloat to all my friends that K-Love threatened to suplex me over the nternet.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    I figured that.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    Eboy: It’s actually a pretty short list.
    cdef: I figured you just leaned on your keyboard with your elbow and that’s how you came up with your screen name. It’s all good.

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    Ryan: The list has one name on it?

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Izzo

    Hi Jukai!

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    Ryan. Come on, we all wanna know who’s on the list. Jukai is actually making me laugh hard with his comments on this post, but is he on a slamonline blacklist? Is it kept in a plexiglass case with 2 locks on it that Ryne & Lang have to simultaneously open with matching keys? Like on “crimson tide”?

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    oh and i’m quite sure there is no viable comeback from: ” 3) this is my f*cking room” ! Awesome.

  • http://www.sprint.com/sero dma

    jason thompson has more potential than love, but i don’t think that he did more THIS year. he’s the 2nd best big of the rooks i think.

  • http://where-basketball-b-longs.blogspot.com B. Long

    Am I on the list, Ryan?

  • http://mindyourbusiness@getalife.com Allenp

    The list doesn’t exist…
    Take the red pill.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    I am.

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    but Morpheus, i prefer wonderland.

  • kwame

    he did get snubbed from the rook-soph game tho

  • Coach Master

    K-Love did get screwed. As for not playing on a winning team, how about Memphis (Mayo), New Jersey (Lurch Lopez), Oklahoma (Westbrook).

  • Coach Master

    Allenp — “not better than (Lurch) Lopez”? Wrong. He bested him in rebounds and in double-doubles (by 10). Lopez did average 2 more ppg with an extra 5 mpg.

  • Coach Master

    Michael Measley – who dat?

  • The Real Kevin Love

    So Ryan convinced me to comment again. Let me clear this up. Everyone who finished in the top 5 had a great rookie season, and I am not bitter towards those 5 dudes I have been friends with since middle school. The fact is I answered the question with an honest answer, not a “goody goody” I’m gonna preserve my image type. Cant blame me for keeping it real. And…the ROY voting is so irrelavent that (like I said) 2 years from now I wont even remember. Plus for those who thought I was stupid enough to deserve ROY, Derrick Rose was above and beyond all of us this year. Im gonna go ahead and catch his game later on. But on a real note…follow my twitter kevin_love and as long as you guys keep jabbing/hating on Ryan I will continue to laugh and check these out. Til next time.

  • Tavoris

    dma…if u think Jason Thompson is the 2nd best big in the rook class, then he’s automatically better than Love, cuz neither is touchin Lopez. And actually, Jason Thompson didn’t get the touches he should have early on, but he is a certain upgrade over Brad Miller.

    and how about Marc Gasol? didn’t his role increase dramatically as the season progressed?

    I like Kevin Love, but he wasn’t doin much until Jefferson got hurt…and even after that, I’d rather just play Ryan Gomes and Craig Smith and go small-ball than put a HUGE defensive liability out there…

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    oh wow. Kevin Love is back in the house (nice distraction Ryan, i still would like to know who’s on the list. Hehe). Fantastic seeing a real nba player on these pages.

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    K-Love had actually been typing that since noon, but had to continuously stop to wipe all the tears off his keyboard

  • Tavoris

    Coach Master, Brook Lopez’s numbers may not look like much at first glance, but he actually should have gotten EVEN more touches in Jersey than he did…he was efficient from the field AND the FT line, he rebounded well, he blocks shots (and rarely is out of position on defense). He scores with his back to the basket, on the move, and with the face-up game…
    Already, I can only think of 6 centers in the League who had better years (with non-inflated numbers).

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    Kevin, we aren’t hating on Farmer Jones. We just like keeping him grounded, you DO know he discovered a certain Lebron, right?

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    oh lord, Juk’s you have no pain threshold do ya? You really think Love’s gonna respond to that? Gotta admire your big brass ones, dude.

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    Tavoris: Howard, Duncan, Gasol, Jefferson, Okafor, Biedrins, Horford, Bynum, O’Neal, Randolph, Ilgauskus, Bargnani, Yao, Pryzbilla. You’re not thinking very hard.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Kevin cracks me up.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Kevin needs a cooler screen name, btw.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Izzo

    Eboy:Like “White Hot E-Love”?Actually,nevermind.He’s better than Jason Thompson btw.

  • http://mindyourbusiness@getalife.com Allenp

    Coach Master
    So you determine whether a player is better than anothe player solely by their numbers? Because that’s all you decided to list. You ignore that Lopez is a much better defender, now. You throw out the extra five minutes, and ignore that “Lurch” played with two all-star caliber teammates who greatly reduced his touches, and played in an offense that did not allow him to camp out in the lane as much as his skill level would dictate.
    Kevin Love is a scrappy four, with good basketball sense and a good nose for the ball. Brook Lopez is a legit pivot, with post moves and counters. I’d rather have the pivot.

  • jen
  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    I hate twitter. Kevin is dead to me.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    For real though, if True Hoop doesn’t big this up, something’s wrong. Are ANY other NBA players commenting on ANY other NBA blogs at the moment? Hopefully someone at the Dome is putting this under Abbott’s nose…

  • Coach Master

    Allenp–no disrespect and I do like Lopez’ play. I just think K-Love is a better player and should have been ranked ahead of him. Why? More double-doubles, more rebounds, less minutes = more efficient. Okay, K-Love didn’t have two all stars on his team, but he did have fellow glass eater Al Jefferson (who should have been an all star). Unlike Lopez, he had to play as an undersized 1 when Al when down. The comparing the “pivot” argument seems pretty lame, as I don’t think K-Love was ever projected as a 1 but was forced into the roll when Big Al went down. In that regard it’s apples v. oranges.

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    I heard DIME had Mark Madsen!!!

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Moose

    Kevin, if you DO show up here, I just want to let you know that I am a huge fan (13 years old). Your rebounding is off the charts. You’re right, you definitely got wronged here, I was totally surprised.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Moose

    Ryan, am I on the list? Man I hope not.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Moose

    Or maybe I should’ve called you Mr. Love . . . sorry haha.

  • Coach Master

    roll s/b role. Also, K-Love having 29 double-doubles shows consistency throughout the season even when paired with Big Al and even when playing out of position, at the 1.

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    Coach Master: Kevin Love played point guard?!?!

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Moose

    I was hoping that would get past your censorship, Jukai.

  • Coach Master

    Jukai – sorry, replace 1 with 5…kay? A hundred thousand critics out of work and I got you.

  • riggs

    BROOK >>>>>>>> KEVIN

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Moose…enough with the fomalities….we know you want to just try and swap present state KG for Kevin…we get it!

  • Superman Osman

    Kevin Love is awesome, he should make a single with his uncle called ‘Screwed Screwed Screwed, I get SCREWEEEED’

  • Superman Osman

    Down Down Down, The Commish wants to take me down

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    I actually went and checked Ryan’s piece from last week since I was away and no, I really didn’t expect to see that Kevin actually commented on Slam. Hmmm, small world.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Moose

    Eboy, I was being serious haha. But come to think of it, that’s NOT a bad idea . . . Kevin, you DO know that Boston is truly very nice in the winter . . . particularly at the TD Banknorth Garden . . . right? And the fans here would love to have you!

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Boston loves them some white players.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Moose

    The Celtics were also the first team to integrate, TAD.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Moose

    And last year they became the most African-American team to win a championship.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    I thought you would be the last person I would have to explain sarcasm to. Sigh.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Moose

    I thought you were being sarcastic, I was just doing that as damage control, I wasn’t quite sure. And I take that comment as a compliment, actually. Why would I be the last one you would have to explain sarcasm to?

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Kev Love repping the comment page AND burning Ryan! Tremendous.

  • Tavoris

    Jukai…I’ll take that, but u got a LOT of natural PF’s in that list (not counting Duncan)
    You also have ALOT of players who missed a lot of time….I’m taking Brook Lopez’s numbers with 82 games over Jeffersons over 50 games…

  • Eman

    Since when did ROY finishings determine success? I’m a fan of KLove but he needs to fall back.

  • http://www.aaa.com ciolkstar

    poop

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    Tavoris: I’m not. I’m not entirely sure I would take Lopez’s 82 over Love’s 82. Lopez is getting a lot of love for being a solid, consistant player without a lot of upside.

  • http://mindyourbusiness@getalife.com Allenp

    Jukai
    I can’t agree on the upside thing. The hardest thing for bigs to develop are dependable post moves and counters.
    Lopez has that. I initially thought his lumbering style would limit him, but he was pretty effective.
    Now, you add in an NBA weight program and conditioning, along with more savvy as he learns the nuances of the pro game. Those two things lead to the most improvements.
    You can’t teach his size, and you can’t teach his touch. He will never be a great leaper, but neither will Love.
    Lopez, however, is 7 feet tall.
    That’s the big difference for me. Not saying he is guaranteed the better career, but I was pleasantly surprised at his ability this year.
    I actually expected Roy Hibbert to be better though.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Honestly, Jukai I think you might be failing to see how good Brook can be. He’s a legit seven foot shotblocking center, he averaged 2 a game and his minutes were very inconsistent to start the season and fluctuated throughout.
    Love is probably the better rebounder, but he’s not close in terms of defense or even scoring ability. Lopez should have gotten a lot more looks but with VC jacking up threes and Devin Harris occasionally trying to be a one man army he didn’t get the looks he should’ve as their team’s most efficient offensive player.
    I realy like Love, especially since he’s come on here, but I’m honestly not sure if he’s that much better at anytging except rebounding than, say, Craig Smith.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    I didn’t even see AllenP’s comment, but were pretty much on the same page here.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    100? Ah.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    100? Ah.

  • $tev3

    So where did he finish?

  • ferrarigto

    can we just all agree that this is one of the deepest draft classes ever!
    westbrook
    rose
    love
    mayo
    lopez x 2
    oden
    fernandez
    gasol
    hill
    batum
    lee
    thompson
    beasley
    gordon
    chalmers
    augustine
    this list goes on

  • jumpman3224

    Yea this class is obviously deeper than last years. Evidence of this is that Love put up very similar averages as Horford in his rookie year and Horfrod finished 2nd in ROY voting. As far as Kevin Love’s preceived slight…its obvious that Ro(y)se, OJ, Westbrook, and Lopez had better seasons. And, Gordon averaged over 15 points a game, so I would Love finished right were he belonged.

    If Double-Doubles mattered that much for these things maybe we should see David Lee as first team All-NBA center over Superman.

  • http://double-technical.blogspot.com Zee!

    Please cut off his water wiiiinggggsss….

  • Tavoris

    thanks allenp and coilkstar…numbers don’t tell the story…cuz if they did, then David Lee would be better than Dwight Howard (cuz David Lee led the league in double-doubles, right?).

    Brook Lopez-as he is now-is a player that opposing coaches have to plan for. He’s probably the most complete YOUNG big man in the game not named Lamarcus Aldridge. He’s definitely not nearly as dominant as Dwight, but he DID outplay him the last time the Nets played the Magic. Sure he moves like he’s Gumby, but Lopez does a very good job of facing up from 15 and blowing (albeit slowly) by his man.

    I’d say that just about any team (not named the Magic, Rockets, or Lakers) would be THRILLED to have Brook Lopez as their starting center for the next decade.

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    If you have just gone and put Ol Greg in THIS years draft class your getting a beating…why do you think he didnt get any selections for ROY? He wasnt in this years class…

  • http://slamonline.com James The Balla

    How come there is no Link of the night for the Lakers and Jazz game??

  • Jacob

    shut up kevin love, d-rose didnt make a stupid commercial to advertise himself, rose played and proved he deserved it

  • http://www.broy7.com/roy/index nate the great

    kevin on twitter.
    charlie V = kevin love
    on gayness with twitter.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Blinguo

    Next Farmer surname topic… Farmer Bones?
    As in “nice jacket.”
    Zoom Flight 95′s TB.
    And if Kevin Love + the retro(not in TB tho) = FT line space jam.

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    Ciolkstar and Allenp: You all make good points. Can’t really argue. I just don’t see Brook Lopez improving, and if Love gets into a different situation (he can’t excel with Al Jefferson), I think he can improve drastically on his passing and offensive skills.

  • Tavoris

    Jukai, I don’t see it with Kevin Love…I think he’ll always be a goood rebounder (as his instincts and timing are impeccable), but offensively, I see Brad Miller as his ceiling. And to be honest, he’s almost there already.

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    Tavoris: I guess that’s a pure difference in our opinion then. Sorta hard to tell with K-Love at this point anyway; I can see Kevin Love’s game expanding in the PASSING range of things, as well as developing a more consistant outside shot. Those two things can really open up ones game. The speed of the pro-game threw off these two normally solid aspects of Love’s game, but I don’t think that’ll be a constant.. after all, he started off not being able to rebound because everyone was bigger and stronger than him, and look how he ended up at the end of the season? Out rebounding dudes twice his size. Plus, what is he, 20? He’s got massive room for improvement.
    But I’m not putting my money on this, obviously. We’ll see.

  • Tavoris

    Jukai, u just described Brad Miller…those are the 3 things that Brad Miller does well (as well as Mehmet Okur).

    He does have age on his side-which means he probably has 10 good years before those knees start to wear down…and he actually was a decent rebounder from the jump…Al jefferson just took them all…his numbers began to improve as the season progressed (as they should with the minutes he gets), and they jumped dramatically once Jeff got hurt. It wasnt a drastic improvement on his part, however.

    The league is getting quicker, but it’s also getting bigger, and if Oden and Bynum keep improving at their current rates (and stay healthy), Love is gonna b in for a lot of long nights over the next decade. He just doesnt’ seem like he’s ever gonna improve as a defender.

  • Tavoris

    nobody’s twice K-Love’s size but Shaq…he actually had to LOSE weight when he got in the L.

  • Tavoris

    there are plenty of rebounds 2 b had when 1)your best shooter refuses to shoot (Mike Miller) and 2) you have Mark Madsen on your team

  • http://neworleansbasketball.blogspot.com Caleb

    “The league is getting quicker”

    It is? It’s been getting consistently slower for years now I thought.

  • http://neworleansbasketball.blogspot.com Caleb

    Look at Love’s rebounding % as opposed to his per game numbers (since everyone keeps saying – “his team misses a lot of shots”). He grabbed 15.1% of available offensive rebounds – that led the league this year, and is the 51st highest percentage ALL-TIME. He also finished 6th this year in defensive rebounding % and was second only to Dwight Howard in Total rebounding %. Dude’s a beast on the boards.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    Those of you who think Kevin’s head is too big — and it is, of course — just know how much he’ll love being the most commented post two days running in the midst of the playoffs he’s not even a part of.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Ryan Jones

    Needless to say, I’m quite enjoying it myself.

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    Tavoris: Brad Miller was a two time all-star. So, you know, if Kevin Love turns out to be Brad Miller, he’s automatically better than Lopez, who will probably be a no-time all-star. But I don’t think Brad Miller is the ceiling for Love. I think Love has smarter, and more mobile (he’s slow in a sprint, but people dont’ give him credit for how he’s able to squeeze and hustle into spaces Miller never could). That being said, he also could be much worse than Brad Miller. I’m not putting my money on Kevin Love as of yet. I just say you shouldn’t entirely doubt him.
    As for your angry rebound issues, I really can say the same for Brook Lopez. Who exactly, on New Jersey, is a tall scrappy rebounder? There’s a lot of people in New Jersey who LIKE to shoot, but can anyone hit a shot at a decent clip? For a seven footer, Lopez should have had better rebound numbers.

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    I do agree that Kevin Love’s defense is questionable and that will definitely hurt his value in the long run.

  • http://basketball-reference.com nbk

    How is Lopez automatically worse then Brad Miller Jukai? 13 pts 8 rbnds 1.9 blocks a game. Yao Ming’s rookie year, 13 pts, 8 rbnds, 1.7 blocks. Weird isn’t Yao better then Brad Miller? If Lopez keeps what he is doing up in the fashion he is doing it he will end up like Yao Ming.

  • Tavoris

    Jukai…I’d b suprised if Brook Lopez isn’t an All-star NEXT year. After Dwight Howard, there isn’t a center in the East that’s better.

    and Brad Miller was an All-Star in an era where Jamall Magliore and Nazr Mohammed were virtual all-star locks…there isn’t really a comparison. Caleb, the league is getting quicker…the game may ot reflect it score-wise, but players are bigger and faster than they have EVER been. Lebron-that’s all that needs 2 b said.

  • http://basketball-reference.com nbk

    Players getting quicker, and the game slowing down are two different things Caleb.

  • Tavoris

    Caleb-who pays attention to rebounding precentage? it doesn’t take a genius statisician to notice that there are only gonna b so many caroms to be had. If no one else on the team is trying to rebound, then you are gonna have a higher percentage.

    Kevin Garnett led the league in rebounding for like 27 years straight until he got to Boston. Now that he has a PG who gets 5+, a SG that gets 4,a SF that gets 6-7, and a C that gets 8, he doesn’t have to grab 13 a game anymore…In Minny, he had Mark Blount to back him up (who averaged 4RPG) and Mark Madsen (who averaged like 4)…

  • Tavoris

    thanks nbk…

  • http://basketball-reference.com nbk

    I think defensive rebounds shouldn’t even be measured they prove nothing except your team did their job. Offensive Rebounds are all that matter statistically and the fact that he got such a high percentage says a lot about his IQ. But it also says the T-Wolves miss a lot, and it implies that (if you have any common sense) Al Jefferson is not playing. Love had a great rookie campaign and all but his impact is handicapped by what the Wolves lacked. And thats why he got no ROY love.

  • Tavoris

    Very well put, nbk.

  • http://basketball-reference.com nbk

    thank u

  • Tavoris

    I still say that when u have a center (Lopez) shooting 53% from the field and 80% from the line while blocking almost 2 shots a game, u keep giving him the ball.

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    If you guys think Lopez is all-star material, then clearly either I haven’t watched enough Nets games or you guys have watched FAR too much. As I said, I think the New Jersey have a team that makes rebounding just as easy as it is for Minny, so Lopez’s numbers should be better than they are for his height.

  • Tavoris

    Jukai…Devin Harris >Randy Foye (not by much tho), VC >the rest of the T-Wolves…

    All it really takes is one game, one quarter to see how the Nets (who don’t really have another post scorer) use Lopez on EVERY screen-roll with Harris or Carter…how he scores with the face up game, posting up on either side, on the move with alley-oops. How he hits free throws better than most centers in the league. How he’s a LEGIT 7-foot, 260 and does a good-almost great job blocking and altering shots. How he’s NOT a liability in close games, because he makes free throws and doesn’t commit silly fouls

    He is really good enuf 2 b a 18-20 ppg, 10rpg, 2.5 bpg center in the L, shooting 52% from the field and 80% from the line. That’s all-star numbers for the next decade, homie

  • http://basketball-reference.com nbk

    Jukai you watched far too little Nets games, but its not your fault, who the f, other then a jersey native would like watching them…. but Lopez has virtually no weaknesses, and can get better at everything. So yeah is Rebounding numbers could have been better, but then again they could have been worse. In fact he outrebounded Andrew Bynum, Brad Miller (who you say he is “worse then”, and Nene. Those are 3 of the top centers in the league (not top 3 but 3 of the better centers) he outrebounded as a rookie. You can’t possibly think he won’t get better.

  • BostonBaller

    If you don’t win the award it doesn’t matter where you placed. It’s easy to get numbers on a team that stinks. All of the aforementioned players were better than he was but if this gets him juiced enough to improve over the Summer then great for him. Imagine if Shaq said this. lol. What an attention hog!

  • http://www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    Im pretty sure that no one in this thread-sans K.Love-actually watches T Wolves basketball.

  • Tavoris

    Myles, I have checked them out on occasion. They are slowly-but surely realizing that Randy Foye is pretty darn good playing the 2. Mike Miller is one of the ten best shooters in basketball-yet passes up shots he has no business passing up. Watching Al Jefferson work in the post is a beautiful thing, even tho he gets his shot blocked more than anybody I’ve ever seen. Nobody on the team TRIES to play defense. They need to give Ryan Gomes more minutes and shots. Telfair does an excellent job distributing the ball FAR away from the spotlight (and his NYC legend).

    They will improve dramatically if they had a true center, so Jefferson can play at the 4.

  • chazz michael michaels

    “ive gotten screwed” isn’t french what a dumbholio hahaha

  • Jimmy C

    hey K-Love. how bout i buy pack of gum and show u how to chew it.

  • JLee

    Westbrook killed. But Derrick Rose is better. Both are better than K-Love. Sorry Kevin. You deserve what you got.

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