Wednesday, April 8th, 2009 at 1:52 pm  |  181 responses

MVP Race: Final Call

It’s all coming down to the wire.

by John Krolik

1. LeBron James | Cleveland Cavaliers
I mean, what do I start with?

– Are you a “Triple Crown” stats guy? LeBron leads the League in Points/Rebounds/Assists and, unsurprisingly, triple-doubles, and his LEAST productive month of the new year sawLeFresh him averaging 30.7/6.7/7.0.

– How about the more advanced metrics? He’s going to come within an inch of the PER record, his TS% is comfortably higher than Wade and Bryant’s, and his by-possession stats are even more impressive than his “raw” numbers.

– Is it the little things you desire? Thanks to KG’s injury, I have LBJ as No. 2 on my DPOY ballot, seeing as he’s become a shot-blocking and weak-side steal force, guarded all five positions, locks down the other team’s best scorer in crunch-time, and is the best defender on one of the three elite defensive teams. Oh, and he comfortably leads the League in +/-.

– Crunch-time performances? He has the best crunch-time stats in the League, the Cavs have only lost two games by three points or less, and over the Cavs’ most recent March tear LeBron scored or assisted on nearly every Cavs basket during the stretch of those games.

– Oh, and record? The Cavs are clinging to the best record in the League with five games to go, but more importantly they’re at the top of the League with a supporting cast that’s seen three starters miss over 50 combined games due to injury and a team that is -9.5 points per 100 possessions when James is off the floor. Even if the Lakers manage to overtake the Cavs and finish a game ahead of them, this shouldn’t really be a contest. Kevin Garnett was much closer to Bryant statistically last year than Bryant is to James this year and had significantly more defensive value, but finished fourth despite his team winning eight more games than Bryant’s.

No one statistic is perfect, and you can talk about throwing them out all you want, but at some point you’re looking for a full-fledged conspiracy if you want to deny that LeBron James should take home the MVP trophy this year.

2. Kobe Bryant | Los Angeles Lakers
This is where everything gets tricky for me. The gap between No. 1 and 2 and No. 4 and 5 are both absolute chasms compared to the minute gaps in between No. 2 and 4 on my ballot. My three big characteristics are size of role, efficiency in role, and success of team. Each of these three players is the clear-cut favorite in one of those categories. Really and honestly, I have no argument whatsoever with any of these three being put in a different order—I have my reasons, but there are other valid arguments. Hell, flip a coin.

Statistically, and in a vacuum, Paul and Wade have been better than Bryant. (OMG DOES U EVER WATCH BASKETBALL TRIANGLE OFFENSE MEANS U CANT GET STATS LIKE JUST RACKING UP STATS U OMGGGZDUMZICLE. I live in L.A. I watch a lot of Lakers. Yes, Kobe plays with playmaking bigs. He initiates plenty of possessions and plenty of opportunities to make passes—he prefers to shoot. The fact that he plays with playmaking bigs instead of playmaking guards, like Wade and James do, doesn’t mean all stats should be thrown out the window.) There’s almost no argument—not only is Kobe not taking over games on a nightly basis like those two have, but his scoring efficiency is far behind that of Paul, James and Wade. He seemed to finally run out of gas a little bit in March, as the Lakers lost their grip on the best overall record with Kobe shooting 43 percent for the month and shooting 62-160 from the floor in the Lakers’ six losses. (OMGGGZ IN A TRIANGLE BIGS NEED 2 BE INVOLVED KOBE JUST GIVING THEM OPPORTUNITIES FOR OFFENSIVE BOARDS KOBE MOST SKILLED PLAYER PERIOD. PERIOD!)

Ultimately, I’m putting Kobe above where his numbers say he should be (fourth or fifth) because of his clutch play and the fact the Lakers, and Kobe, have been the best team in the League against, well, the best teams in the League. Kobe’s not as young as he used to be, and he’s saving his biggest punches for when he needs them instead of going out to take over every game like Wade, James and Paul have. I don’t think I should penalize all that harshly for that—he’s done what his team has needed to win, and his team has won a whole lot. If you think his being relatively quiet down the stretch doesn’t mean he’s going to be his old terrifying Mamba self come playoff time, you’ve got another thing coming.

3. Chris Paul | New Orleans Hornets
I know that we’re not supposed to acknowledge that Chris Paul is absolutely having an MVP-worthy year this season, and pretend that putting up huge numbers on a mediocre playoff team is something that didn’tCP3 Live happen with LeBron James and Kobe Bryant, two years apiece, with neither of them getting close to actually getting the award. I don’t buy it. Paul’s injury-ravaged, Lohan-thin squad is four games off second place in the West, he’s putting up absolute monster numbers across the board, he’s got an absurd TS% of 60 percent, he’s leading the League in steals and has a better defensive +/- on a better defensive team than Wade, and he’s made up for a lack of explosive super-performances with a plethora of quieter displays of amazing like last night’s 26/9/9/6 line against Wade.

(I wouldn’t dare pretend that tonight’s game had a bearing on this spot, but you do have to laugh when Wade goes from the hero to the goat who missed a game-icing free throw, turned it over on the last possession, and got kicked out of the game, with the change coming because Rasual Butler made an absolute laugher of a three at the buzzer. We like to pretend that the MVP candidates somehow control these things.)

We acknowledge that Paul is the best point guard in the League. The best passer. The best guy for steals. The best combination of raw points and scoring efficiency. The guy playing the biggest role for a Western team. Why are we never willing to make the leap and talk about him as one of the game’s best players, maybe even the best?

4. Dwyane Wade | Miami Heat
Look, “best player on the best team” is stupid. That’s not why I have Wade here. After Wade’s uber-nova DWowbeginning of March (five 40-point games in nine outings, with the Heat going 7-2), I had him at No. 2 and threatening for the one-spot. But if we allow a huge stretch like that to color our perception and have Wade surge into the MVP talk, why do we stop paying attention when Wade shoots 42 percent in losses during the Heat’s post-explosion 5-8 skid, with one DNP in a close game? When Kobe has a bad game, it’s a New York Times Magazine article. When Wade does, our low expectations for the Heat allow us to only see the huge performances and forget the 8-21 nights.

Wade’s made a Herculean effort in the size of role he’s taken on and the burden he’s shouldered every night to get the Heat back into the Playoffs, but we do Paul and James a disservice by forgetting just how lost their teams would be without them, and discounting Paul’s clear-cut advantages in efficiency and team success. We can’t imagine the Hornets and Cavs without Paul and James, but we know the horrifying reality of what a Heat with even 50 percent of Wade looks like. Remember in The Aviator, when they figured out you can’t tell how fast the planes are moving unless they have still cloud cover to show their speed? That 15-win season has functioned as Wade’s cloud cover, but it shouldn’t keep us from forgetting just how fast Paul and James are playing and how valuable they are to their teams.

5. Dwight Howard | Orlando Magic
DPOY, with a bullet. Somehow leads the League in rebounds while challenging almost every shot. Can’t be single-covered in the post. Best player on maybe the best team in the League at this very moment. In all likelihood, will absolutely smash the record for First-Team All-NBAs made. But still a level away from the Top-4. With how amazing those four are, you can’t have a hole in your game as absolutely gaping as Howard’s inability to truly take over a game at the offensive end.

6. Brandon Roy | Portland Trail Blazers
And now, another logjam. With KG hurt, nobody from Boston is a clear-cut best player MVP candidate out of that team. Which means we get to choose the final five from the 2-8 bunch in the West, with the Nuggets separated from the Mavericks by only six games.

I’m going with Roy in this spot because he feels like the closest thing to a clear-cut alpha dog from all the teams remaining, with the possible exception of Deron Williams, and Roy’s been healthier, had more late-game heroics, and has better numbers. Nine games is a big deal. And as impressive as Williams succeeding with Utah’s injuries, Roy’s been the mentor to an-always changing cast of young talent.

7. Tim Duncan | San Antonio Spurs
It’s trendy to put Tony Parker here as the Spur, but Graydon Gordian of 48 Minutes of Hell assured me that I’m right in saying Duncan’s still the guy making everything work over there. Duncan’s still a whisper-quiet 5th in PER; I mention this here because it’s surprising Duncan does so well in a metric that would seem to ignore his biggest assets; defense, leadership, keeping the ball moving and the floor balanced on offense without racking up assists, and saving his energy for when he knows his team needs a play. Even putting all of those things above his numbers, Duncan’s put up great numbers and led the Spurs to a quietly fantastic campaign.

8. Yao Ming | Houston Rockets
It was a tough choice to put him ahead of Billups, but I feel like Yao’s played a much more integral role, putting up big numbers without great shooters spacing the floor or T-Mac to create plays; he’s got a huge target on his back every time down the floor, and he’s simply taking the punishment and putting in his absolutely gorgeous/unstoppable jump hook time after time, while serving as the last line of defense on a still top-notch D. And he’s played in 73 games this year! Did you ever think Yao Ming, one of the most hyped and intriguing players in the game on and off the court, would finally break through and lead a team to the Playoffs to the sound of absolute silence?

9. Chauncey Billups | Denver Nuggets
Yes, the Nuggets looked like a mess before he got there, and now they’re the second-best team in the West. So he should have some serious also-ran type momentum going to get in the honorable mention half. But his numbers aren’t nearly where most of these guys’ are, and when you give him credit for the Nuggets’ success, you’re just throwing a lot out, like AI being more washed-up than anybody thought, ‘Melo buying in on both ends more, JR going super-beast, and Nene quietly being one of the best young centers in the NBA—people discount how valuable it is to nearly always be able to put the ball in the basket when you catch it in the immediate area, and Nene might be the best at it. Great season, great player, but some differentiation between causation and correlation might be necessary here.

10. Dirk Nowitzki
| Dallas Mavericks
Clinched a playoff spot, still scoring, still getting it done, carrying a team. Has lost a step, and wasn’t a guy I waxed rhapsodic about even when he had all his steps. For the Playoffs, he should get ready to wear Lamar Odom like a second skin for four-to-five games. But he’s had a very good season. Deron has this spot if he’d been healthy the whole year—it should be noted that Deron once again came through in the only important category to grade point guards by—the ability to beat Chris Paul or Deron Williams’ team in meaningless regular season games. (That was so Ryne doesn’t fire me.)

Previous MVP Races: Quarter | Trimester | Post All-Star

John Krolik is a SLAM columnist who also writes for Cavs: The Blog and Free Darko. He studies creative writing at USC.

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  • http://basketball-reference.com nbk

    but the League needs Lamarcus in the games because he boosts revenue…..not, anyway when in he11 was the last time you saw a lebron play and said hey that should have been a foul!!!… i bet you’ll say on Jason Richardson. Please do

  • matt(ballislife

    I think you guys are forgetting how terrible Lebron is against Ranked opponents. His numbers are great and all but his team cannot get over the hump of beating the top teams in the league. That itself to me makes Kobe the better option for MVP than Lebron. Why have a guy that just gets stats when the other gets W’s over more than just hte bottom half of the league.

  • http://basketball-reference.com nbk

    and thats my point dude, you can’t prove that so why the fbomb would you say it? Because you have nothing other then the article you read saying LeBron is treated special from a detroit pistons website?

  • http://basketball-reference.com nbk

    LeBron has a better record Matt, your point is null – what happens in the regular season means jack ish if your team finished first in the whole league with the best home record ever.

  • http://nicekicks.com MeloMan13

    CP3 and Dwade have alot more swag in those pics

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    Great article, John. Strong arguments all around.

  • vonkers

    A: Lamarcus Aldridge is a finesse player, he’s not that physical.

    B: He is an up and coming star in the league.

    C: Pretty much at least once a game I say ” hey that should have been a foul!!!” Because he gets away with murder sometime.

    D: I have as much if not more proof to my point than you do to yours, you’re just pissed because you’re wrong (hence the name calling).

    E: You said “fbomb”…seriously? Are you 12?

  • http://basketball-reference.com nbk

    I said Fbomb because there is a filter on this website why does that matter, are you 12? Your making up excuses for every little thing i say your original point being “I’ve never seen a player treated like LBJ by the refs, drives me insane. He’s great, but his numbers would be down if the refs didn’t play favorites.” So i named 2 guys and proved you wrong then you changed your mind and said you were talking about superstars. Then I bring up Lamarcus Aldridge and you come up with he’s a finesse player, and he is an up and coming star. Its pathetic that you can’t just accept the truth. I don’t need to call you names to prove my point, I thought by seeing someone call you an idiot you would use your brain to figure this one out. Ref’s will call a foul there is no way to go around a foul, if LeBron fouls someone they call it end of story. If the refs didn’t you and detroit fan’s wouldn’t be the only ones complaining. Stars DO get coddling treatment but it sure is not with fouls on defense. I gave you concrete proof, you can go to 82games and check every single players shot against per at each position if you want to do further research. But in terms of fouls, your wrong plain and simple just straight up wrong. If this were the 80′s or 90′s considering the pace was significantly faster, with higher scoring teams all over the place LeBron’s numbers would likely be HIGHER in any other era of NBA basketball. If you don’t believe me you can research it on espn. Its not even about being right for me, its about ignorant people not realizing they are ignorant thus spreading the ignorance to other ignorants. Yes LeBron and other stars get special treatment, but no it is not something that should change your perception of him as a player because if it did you would have to re-examine your stance on a certain Michael Jordan (assuming your not completely retarted and realize he is the greatest ever. The most proof you have comes from an article that puts stock in a Rasheed Wallace tirade, you realize that?

  • vonkers

    Speaking if tiraides…

  • vonkers

    Speaking if tiraides…

  • http://basketball-reference.com nbk

    exactly, you said all of that, said I wasn’t providing any proof, said I knew I was wrong and resorting to name calling, except I have countered everything you have said, provided evidence for everything I have said and you still through a crappy fallacy out there to feel better about yourself. Have a nice day, hopefully the next time you hear someone say the crap you just said you will be smarter, rather than to ignorantly agree.

  • vonkers

    It’s funny how worked up you get when you’re wrong…you’ve just been sucking LBJ’s balls harder and harder since this topic came up and I proved my point. You really think he is going to give you a present…Sorry, he doesn’t have anymore cars lefts to give away. Like I said…I singled out LBJ because he was THE EXTREME, not the only player who has this happening. If you were as astute and knowledge able as you think you are you would have seen that. His numbers wouldn’t be close in the 80′s and early 90′s because he’s soft. He’d be on the floor every time he drove into the lane. Yes, peopleperceptions about him and others should change because they aren’t relying solely on thier abilities to play the game, they’re using the refs to help them…ALOT. I’m giving the truth, you aren’t accepting it…the only thing you’re excepting is a load in the face from LBJ.

  • UNNAMED

    Now that’s what I call game set match son…I get the W, you get the load in the face…

  • celtics!!!!!!!!

    i dont like dis list. KOBE SHOULD NOT BE IN IT becuase he AINT A TEAM PLAYA he 2 STUCK UP HIS OWN ASS 2 care.

  • vonkers

    Best team in the west, 2nd best record in the league…sorry celtics….he’s a great player.

  • Sesa

    There’s no clear cut way to hand out an MVP trophy between no 1 and no 2. Everybody will always have a beef.
    Just give the trophy to the one with a better team record. Period

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    GREAT LIST. Finally somebody here who makes sense when he talks about the MVP race! Fabulous work, John Krolik. CP3 and Yao finally getting some long-due respect, and LeBron 1, Kobe 2 here works for me! But where is Deron Williams?

  • http://www.ballislife.com Arek

    Kobe’s basically handing Lebron the trophy.. talk about cruise controlling it once the lakers clinched a playoff spot.

    but Lebron has definitely deserved it.. who wouldve thought the cavz would not only be the #1 team, but win 62 games and probably more

  • Pardeep

    Are you kidding me John Kobe should not be fourth or fifth and A.I. is not washed up hes on the Pistons it is preety hard to dominante stat wise on that team so that means Chauncey was washed up because he averaged 17.5? ppg. Stop hating. The Lakers will have the championship at the end of the year and Kobe will be smiling at all you haters.

  • http://slamonline.com Spaceship Jay

    SEE VONKERS!?!? Told ya so.

  • Canuck

    I’m not a Kobe hater by any means, but why is him probably stepping up his game in the playoffs discussed and factored into regular season MVP ranking? Correct me if I just misread.

  • http://www.nba.com/suns Dacre

    No one hates Kobe. But it’s LeBOMBS award today.

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    @vonkers: Interesting debate going on here. So the referees practice more superstar-player-friendly favouritism now than they did in decades past. I’m not agreeing or disagreeing with you on this point. But if it were true, this favouritism would apply to Dwade, CP, Kobe and the rest as much as it does to Lebron – like you’ve already stated. So… since Lebron is the “extreme” and benefits so much from this, who do you think the MVP should be?

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    But anyway. It’s not like superstars didn’t use to get away with calls. I remember this NBA Finals commercial back in 97 or so with a slow-motion Bulls fastbreak, where if I remember right it was Rodman with the rebound, outlet pass to Pippen and then to MJ for the finish. And Pippen definitely took more than 3 steps. But he’s Pippen. So they let it slide, and even put it on a commercial.

  • nbk

    I already pointed that out that stars got the same calls, since we were talking about extremes I used Jordan as an example. And saying LeBron or any superstar for that matter “wouldn’t survive” in the 80′s and 90′s is like saying Tim Duncan wouldn’t make it in the 70′s because he wouldn’t have been able to keep up with the pace. Same hypothetical obsurdity

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    Shaq in his prime, from the mid-90′s to the earlier half of this decade, got away with MMA moves every time he got in the post, too. And lots of non-calls as he camped in the paint holding his defender down with an arm and his hip. What I’m saying is a bunch of things: 1.) I don’t think the referees favour superstars today that much more than they did in decades past, 2.) and if they did, the favouritism level enjoyed between LBJ and Dwade and KB24 isn’t very different, as they all get superstar calls and non-calls, and most importantly 3.) if LBJ really enjoys the “extreme” of favouritism – and I’m not saying you’re wrong here, just disagreeing with you – then who is your MVP, and how much does HE benefit from superstar calls?

  • Jackie Moon

    While you make light of the claims that the triangle offense is not conducive to individual statistics, chew on this: In the 1998-99 season, Michael Jordan had 15 triple doubles for the Chicago Bulls. That was the year before Phil Jackson came to town. In the 1999-00 season, Michael Jordan had 1 triple double. The next season, he had none. Now, either MJ became a much worse player when the triangle offense was installed, OR the fact that you can rack up rebounds and assists in addition to points does not necessarily indicate how good of a player you are. You can think about this example and decide.

  • http://www.twitter.com/lkzug_basket Darksaber

    Nice example Jackie Moon. Now go on and put on some “love me sexy” for the folks in the Disco. You know ya want to…
    Ps: Mavs are in the playoffs and are looking to move up to avoid the Mav-Destroyer (with a grudge on his shoulder, thanks to Hollins idiotic remarks) by taking on the Hornets for the next 2 games. Good chances here. Eff David West (the cheek tapper, not the player per se)

  • I am the walrus

    The Heat arenot good enough for Wade to win the MVP this year. Miami is strugglin’ to stay over the 50% mark…

  • http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/scoreboard Fred34

    48 karat gold headphones should be an automatic disqualification in the MVP race.

  • Squirrel7

    I agree that there are far too many players in the NBA getting ‘superstar’ calls (Wade and Lebron are by far the worst culprits), but even watching role players like Aaron Brooks and Hedo Turkoglu will show you how relaxed the officiating usually is, I’ve seen both players constantly alternate their pivot foot numerous times on one posession, take 3+ steps without dribbling etc. So while I don’t doubt players like Lebron are phenomenal, I can’t help but be curious about how they would fare in a game that was actually officiated as per the written-rules.

  • Squirrel7

    Still, I guess you could argue they didn’t get the ‘superstar’ calls in the Olympics, and they did pretty well in that! I just sometimes wonder if I would be a considerably better player if I was allowed to get away with ignoring many of the fundamental rules of basketball, like the pros are allowed to do on occasion.

  • SWIFTboy

    #5: Dwight Howard ‘with a bullet’ was not lost on me.

  • http://vnsny.org Spaceship Jay

    I don’t feel that LeBron Kobe or Wade get the “Superstar” treatment like Mike did. If I give Kobe has anything over Money its that; he does what he does without the ref-jocking. If Kobe didn’t catch that sexual assault charge, he’d be floating in unfair Ref-calls right now too. If feel like reffing LeBron can be as difficult as reffing Shaq. Do you penalize a guy because he may be able to bench press your back-court?

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    I just want to state that I’m shocked NBK just annahilated someone in a debate. Like, bad.

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    Lebron may have the highest basketball IQ in the game. He plays farther away from his defenders than Kobe or Wade do, so he’s less likely to get calls on the defensive end. On the offensive end, he does get some cheap calls, but there are also so many damn no-calls (JAMISON ELBOWED HIM IN THE DAMN FACE) recently that it all evens out in the end. I’ll pull a Ryan and note that I’m surprised this debate went on so long.

  • Squirrel7

    I agree that Kobe doesn’t get anywhere near as preferential treatment as Lebron and Wade, but I was lost for words when the crab-dribble was called, I couldn’t believe anyone had the bottle to stand-up to Lebron and call a blatant travel. I’m not disputing whether MJ got away with more/less, I just find it amazing sometimes watching some of the stuff that goes on in the NBA (Wade for example will commit a violation on almost every fast break, be it a travel, carry or double dribble. Josh Smith often takes about 4 steps to line-up his highlight reel dunks). Still, I guess if the refs are going to let them get away with it, why not ‘bend the rules’…..

  • vonkers

    @Joel O- I’ve always been a proponent of the MVP being the person who’s team would suffer the most if they were gone. That isn’t necessarily how it is judged right now, but when I personally look at it, that’s what I look for. Looking at it the way it is now, I would have to go with 1. D-Wade 2. LeBron 3. Kobe. You take Lebron or Kobe away from thier teams they’re still around .500 teams I think. Take D-Wade and Miami is bottom 5 team in the league. I do agree, all superstars get “superstar treatment” by the refs, but LeBron gets away with it the most. As I noted, he has the fewest fouls per game out of all of the current league superstars and one of the fewest per game of past superstars as well.

  • Squirrel7

    I’m not sure I agree with the whole ‘take them away from their team’ basis for judging whether someone is worthy of being MVP.

    Are you saying that if you took said player away, and didn’t replace them with someone else entirely, therefore meaning their normal back-up plays the bulk of the minutes? If so, you’re surely punishing Kobe for having a better back-up than D-Wade. That doesn’t necessarily mean D-Wade is better, it’s just that his back-up is inferior to Kobe’s, so therefore his team would miss him more.

  • Squirrel7

    Ok, that made sense in my head, bit hard to put it into words though. If for example the Cavs didn’t have Bron, they would have the cap-room to bring another big name in, so therefore they probably would be better than a .500 team. Otherwise the argument only works if you’re taking the superstar out of each squad, and not replacing them.

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    Vonkers: Your analysis of Lebron is crazy.

  • vonkers

    Ok…that’s just my personal way to judge it, I’m not imposing it on anyone…what I’m saying is where would thier team be without them. D-wade has the best numbers of the three, but I’m not really looking at that. Miami would probably be in a battle for the worst team in the league without D-wade. I’m talking hypothetically if D-wade, Bron, or Kobe were to get hurt for a whole season, which team would suffer the most…in other words, who is doing the most to make thier team successful. I think with LA and Cleveland they might might might be playoff teams still. Cleveland more than LA, because LA is in the west. So I’m looking at it from the most valuable to thier own team perspective I guess. But like I said, that’s just how I evaluate, I’m not trying to make a point or anything.

  • http://www.nba.com The Seed

    I have read the comments, the one that makes the most sense if from Jackie Moon 1:18am comment. MJ had 1 tripled double in his first year in triangle offense then none the next year, but 15 the year before the triangle offense. This is why people still pick Kobe as MVP if he has the better record at the end of the season. Lebron might have stats and higher PER, but his offense is ran through him, he has the ball 85% of the time, playing point forward, shot the three when I feel like it, go for rebounds get out of offensive set, because I am bigger than most of my post players. Come on people. Kobe is doing what he has to do and Lebron is too, but number and stats mean nothing. Its what your team does against the best teams and Lebron team has CHOKED in the big games. So Lebron stats have come against the least conferences and games that have not been hyped. Think about it.

  • vonkers

    Sorry the truth hurts your feeling jukai.

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    Your basis on that one stat is entirely flawed. First off, Lebron plays far less minutes than Wade does. If you average their fouls on a per 36 minute basis, you will see Lebron has 1.6 fouls in that timespan while Wade has 2.1
    Still a .5 difference in fouls. How do we account for that. Perhaps the fact that, on average, opponents take four more shots on Wade than they do on Lebron. Perhaps the fact that Wade’s USG% (the percentage of offense that Wade is) is 36.1%, compared to Lebron’s far less 33.8%. Also, if someone’s willing to fish for this statistic, I know that Wade gambles on more steals and blocks, but I can’t find “steals/blocks attempted” on any website. It’s just obvious by watching any game.
    So if a defender takes more SHOTS on Wade, Wade is involved in WAY MORE of the offense (resulting in more possible offensive fouls), and Wade tries to steal/block more shots, that MORE than makes up for a .5 difference in fouls, leaving me to believe Wade gets more favorable calls.
    But, if you’re like Ciolkstar that thinks I’m nerdy for being a stat guy (he has me, I am) then let me explain to you how they play defense and how their position also effects their foul rate: Wade is STIFFLING with his defense. He’s much like Kobe was two years ago, getting up close on his man, following him around everywhere, making sure he don’t get a shot up. Wade’s lateral movement is far quicker than Lebron, and he can get away with hugging his defenders. This, however, will usually result in more fouls. Lebron, not having the quick lateral motion that Wade does but making up for it with his strength and leaping ability, will play farther off his defender, rather having them take a jump shot than drive. Lebron also plays them farther off so he can make sure he steers them into the big men that are key in Cleveland’s defensive scheme. BUT MORE TO THE POINT, Wade has to guard his opponents closer because they’re all guards, and more apt to take jump shots… while Lebron really only plays the three or four, and will play defenders farther away, daring them to take a jump shot. This all results in more possible fouls for Wade. Yet, per 36 minutes, Wade only has a .5 higher foul rate than Lebron.
    Suck.
    On.
    That.

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    USG% is the percentage of offense that a player is involved in. Sorry bout that.
    Anyway, keep falling back on that one stat you have, I’m sure that’ll work well and all.

  • http://mindyourbusiness@getalife.com Allenp

    Washed up hurt my heart.

  • http://mindyourbusiness@getalife.com Allenp

    Everybody but Lebron had a purse, so Lebron is the MVP.

  • vonkers

    I rely on stats and actually watching games. I know the difference of how they play defense. LeBron still gets away with more on both ends of the floor, but between those two specific players it’s pretty close. Like I said before, LeBron gets away with MORE than any other superstar (which your stats proved bbtw, so I thank you for that) but all superstars in general get away with it.

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    … so you decided to not read what I wrote, I’m assuming?

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