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Tuesday, April 7th, 2009 at 9:00 am  |  48 responses

Should the Heat Retire Tim Hardaway’s Jersey?

Tim sure thinks so: “With Alonzo Mourning’s Heat number retired, Tim Hardaway said, ‘I deserve to be up there’ too. Hardaway attributes his inability to get an NBA job to his 2007 ‘I don’t like gay people’ comment — despite his apologies. ‘I thought we were supposed to forgive and forget but it’s not happening.’”

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  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Allright….look….Tim does deserve it at some point…..not anytime soon though. Alonzo was the heart of the franchise……even when he came back. His situation was completley different. Tim was a huge contributor to the 90′s Heat teams that kind of mattered….but he’s not ready for that honor yet. 5 seasons from now…that seems about right. The Heat aren’t holding that gay comment over his head either…..maybe he’s just not ready for a front office position.

  • http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/scoreboard Fred34

    What eboy said. He deserves it in due time.

  • littleshotlarry

    What a whiner. “Waaa I wanna have mine retired too. Waaa Miami isn’t showing interest in my sun. Waaa I don’t wannna be around gay people. Waaa”

    I wouldn’t want him anywhere near my front office.

  • littleshotlarry

    … he doesn’t have a sun… he has a son.

  • http://thexboxdomain.com thewilleffect

    Tim definitely deserves it. Remember, he’s got skills. :)

    @Eboy: Isn’t it that he’s not ready, but the franchise is not ready? A front office position and his number being retired are two different situations. Both should be mutually exclusive to each other. When anyone thinks about the Heat as a franchise Alonzo doesn’t just come to mind. Tim is most definitely up there as well.

  • Rasheedionics

    Remember when he was NBA commentator for ESPN which lasted about 3 days… Timmy, you’re just not that bright. Get over yourself.

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    “I APOLOGIZED TO ALL DEM GAYS WATDYALL WANT ME TO DO?”

  • From out of Nowhere

    The Heat should retire Rony Seikaly’s jersey first.

  • A D-wade FAN

    Y not? its not like the heat had a bunch of really good players anyway. ronny should get retired b4 tim though.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Let’s be clear…….Tim would be in the same retirement discussion as Ronny Seiklay, Glen Rice, Grant Long, Brian Grant, Dan Marlje and Keith Askins. They were ALL solid contributors…some more so than others….but all were looked upon as cement-like guys in Heat history. Tim was the best scorer of them all…but I’m not sure if he outweighs some of the other guys that would deserve the same recognition.

  • Clockwork

    they should retire is jersey in rainbow colours

  • Yann Blavec’s wife’s husband

    His number should be retired at the miami Act Up office.

  • http://www.mynameinorange.blogspot.com Hisham

    I still laugh at the fact that they retired Jordan’s number. The Heat should retire Magic Johnson’s number and Larry Bird’s number too. Oh wait 33 is already up there.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    I’d vote for Seikaly. Gotta give props for that wifey of his.

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    When I think Tim Hardaway, I think Warriors. Sorry Timmy. I’m sure you don’t want to be retired anwyhere near San Francisco.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    Retiring MJ’s number was so whack. I mean it’s one thing when the LEAGUE retires the number like the NHL did with Gretzky but how you gon retire the number of someone that has no link to the franchise or the city besides givin them the bidness about 3-4 times a year.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    And I don’t feel bad about Timmy at all. Actually if his remarks really did cost him a front office position, then that’s an encouraging sign that mentalities are evolving. There’s no place for hatred of any kind.

  • http://www.basketballjerseyworld.com NBA-JERSEY-KING

    I agree, Seikaly should have his jersey retired, as with Glen Rice, maybe Grant Long….

  • http://www.basketballjerseyworld.com NBA-JERSEY-KING

    Z, but Miami is a young franchise – they havent had along history to be able to retire LEGENDS numbers…. Miami retired Jordans number just so they could get practice to see what it will be like when retiring D-Wade’s number in the future….

  • rikson

    Definetly – Miami has no choise actually…

  • CHE

    Why is this even a question of course.

  • NAS

    IN MY EYES HE WILL ALWAYS BE A WARRIOR – HE TRANSCENDED THE GAME WHEN HE WAS THEIR AND WAS ARGUABLY THE TOP PG IN THE LEAGUE (AT A TIME OF STOCKTON, PRICE ETC) HIS JERSEY SHOULD BE RETIRED BY THE WARRIORS – EVEN IF HE HATES GAYS THIS SHOULD HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH HIS JERSEY BEING RETIRED WHICH SHOULD BE BASED PURELY ON GAME – WHICH HE HAD PLENTY OF – HE INVENTED THE CROSSOVER FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!!!

  • http://mindyourbusiness@getalife.com Allenp

    I hate all caps…
    Anyway, I agree with Eboy. Tim was nice, but he wasn’t so nice that he needed to get his number retired with Zo. Shoot, his career appeared to be over when he first came to Miami and then he had a little resurgence before he got all fat and fell in love with three pointers.
    Now, on the gay issue, if we forgive folks for some offenses, we have to forgive them for others. Donald Sterling has been convicted of discriminating against minorites and he still owns a basketball team. Tim said something hateful and stupid, he apologized, did some community work, and I’m curious to see if his gay comment precludes him from working in the NBA again.
    It would be interesting.

  • https://twitter.com/Neuronautuk mat smith

    they should leave his jersey in the closet, heh, see what I did there?

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    I agree with you that Sterling gets a pass. Mainly because he’s the one doing the hiring! When you’re in that kind of position, you basically have to pull a Marge Schott to be booted out and even then it took them 15 years! I don’t think you could even call that discrimination, she was giving it to everybody: blacks, latinos, asians, gays, etc. Crazy old lady. / I’m making assumptions here. We don’t even know if that’s what stopping him from getting hired in the NBA. Maybe he’s not the sharpest tool in the shed? I dunno. 5 years from now, if he doesn’t have any lapses, he should be good. But I won’t feel bad for him if he doesn’t get it.

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    The Heat should retire Allan Houston’s number.

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    And the Warriors should name Tim head of community relations. I’d like to see him UTEP Two-Step through the Tenderloin.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Hardaway was awesome in his prime, but I remeber him for his time as a Warrior atleast as much as with the Heat. Personally, I don’t think he should be up there with Zo.

  • http://madbuckets.blogspot.com shane

    he deserves it, but you can’t personally come out and say something like that.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Also, I feel like not many (recent)ex-NBA players have had much success in front office work, and Timmy REALLY doesn’t strike me as an exeption to that. He may have some valuable insight but dude never seemed all that bright. I wouldn’t put him up there with Nate McMillan or Joe Dumars in terms of players you could tell would be good in front office/coaching positions. (He’d probably be closer to Terry Porter or Michael Curry)

  • http://mindyourbusiness@getalife.com Allenp

    Terry Porter did pretty well with teh Bucks.
    And during his career, Porter was a smart point guard.
    I think he’s gotten a bad rep thanks to the pouting in Phoenix and Steve Kerr leaving out to dry.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Oh, I agree that Porter was a smart, steady player (he helped my Spurs get a ring), in fact I’d argue that he seems far more likely to be a successful coach/front office guy than Tim Hardaway would appear to be. I hate saying this about Porter, but I think it could be an important thing for a coach, his voice makes him sound really dumb.

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    That was the dumbest thing anyone has ever said, Ciolkstar. Ever.

  • http://sjsu.edu davidR

    tenderloin isnt THAT bad, russ. as long as you dont mind people smoking crack outside liquor stores and pissing wherever they want, both in broad daylight

  • UNNAMED

    His jersey should be retired for what he said and he should be a first ballot HOFer. My fav. player ever. What’s wrong with stating your opinion?

  • David

    Yes, they should. Without Timmy, the Heat wouldn’t have had all those (relatively) successful playoff runs.

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    Run TMC. That is all.

  • chintao

    I think Russ may have meant the Castro.

  • http://www.nba.com/suns Dacre

    I dont think he should have his jersey retired…. he didn’t do enough for either franchise….and that number 10 jersey could be used for a far greater player in the future.

  • http://www.sprint.com/sero dma

    Like everybody else says, when I think Tim Hardaway, I think Warriors. Now that I think about it, I’d rather them retire Seikley, Glen Rice and Harold Minor first!

  • bola

    timmy? yup, he was good but not that good to deserve such accolade. they made a run to the playoffs for several season but they were clobbered by the Knicks more than once ( remember the upset???), though! so i’d say retire charles oakley’s, larry johnson’s, patrick “chewbacca” ewing’s, allan houston’s and latrell’s number ‘coz these are the guys who caused so much anguished for the heat’s franchise both on-court and off-the-bench (this reminds me, retire jeff van gundy’s coat if you will, hahahaha) aside from Mr. 23.

  • bola

    timmy? yup, he was good but not that good to deserve such accolade. they made a run to the playoffs for several seasons but they were clobbered by the Knicks more than once ( remember the upset???), though! so i’d say retire charles oakley’s, larry johnson’s, patrick “chewbacca” ewing’s, allan houston’s and latrell’s number ‘coz these are the guys who caused so much anguished for the heat’s franchise both on-court and off-the-bench (this reminds me, retire jeff van gundy’s coat if you will, hahahaha) aside from Mr. 23.

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    Heyyyy, no love for Voshon? Or Keith Askins? Boooohh!

  • warriorsfan

    Tmc baby

  • http://www.basketballjerseyworld.com NBA-JERSEY-KING

    Darksaber – no love for Sasha Danilovic either!

  • UNNAMED

    Fudge packers don’t deserve anything anyways… Ronny Siekley should get no recognition for his career. He just play so he could look at naked men in the locker room.

  • truthteller

    If ya’ll agree that Tim Hardaway should get his jersey retired then Glen Rice should should also get his jersey retired as well ’cause Glen Rice was the heart and soul of the Heat before Zo got there! In other words, Rice was Zo before Zo!

  • http://www.twahc.blogspot.com twahc

    he’s somewhere in between warriors and heat. too bad he said something stupid, so he’s forever be remembered by his opinion instead of his skills/contributions either in golden state or miami. but i think he should be retired in miami because alonzo and timmy used to be associated together back in those times.

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