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Wednesday, April 8th, 2009 at 9:00 am  |  87 responses

The Post Up: Homestretch!

We’re all trying to get healthy for Playoffs.

by Holly MacKenzie / @stackmack

Hello, how’ve you all been? I know, I wasn’t here Monday and then of course, yesterday was an off day because of the NCAA tournament, but I’m back. Kind of. I’m still a little under the weather and my brain isn’t working so well thanks to all of the self-medicating I’ve done. For whatever reason, cold medication makes me 10x chattier than usual, makes it impossible to focus and also makes me one tired girl.

So, I’m here, but not really. I went to the Raptors game last night and forgot my recorder. It was that kind of “can’t focus” silliness that I’ve been going through. I had to use my pink blackberry for my interviews. That was a little interesting. One of those moments where I thought “perhaps, I should have gone with the basic black”.

Met our guy Sekou Smith pregame as we spoke about the insanity that is Speedy Claxton’s twitter, @speeddeamon. Blogging about getting out of ATL and how your team doesn’t play you boggles my mind. I pictured this happening with Steph or maybe even a disgruntled Shaq, but I did not envision Speedy Claxton airing out the laundry over Twitter. Wonderful world we live in.

Sekou was fun though. It was great to finally get to say hello to another guy I’ve read for so long.

Because of the game I didn’t see much of what happened last night and I don’t really trust myself to read/take in boxscores correctly so I’m just going to hit you with a few things I did see/hear and you can fill in the blanks. I promise I will get back on track soon. We’re in the homestretch! I’ve gotta get healthy for Playoffs!

The Hawks shot 8-13 from the three-point line in the second half of their game against the Raptors to get the 118-110 victory. Josh Smith and Joe Johnson led the way with 25 points apiece as Al Horford added 15 points and 12 rebounds and Mike Bibby had 10 assists to go with 13 points. Chris Bosh had 21 points and 10 rebounds as Jose Calderon had 16 points to go with 13 assists in the loss.

I didn’t see the Heat/Hornets game, but wish I had. This one went into overtime with the Hornets winning, 93-87 thanks to a near triple-double from Chris Paul who finished with 26 points, 9 rebounds and 9 assists to also go with a blocked shot and 6 steals. Yeah, talk about a stat-staffer. Good Lord. Peja Stojakovic scored 24 points and David West added 20. Dwyane Wade was ejected with 1.4 seconds remaining for arguing what he felt was a non-call but finished with 32 points ad 6 assists before he left. Michael Beasley added 25 points off of the bench for the Heat.

The Spurs avenged a previous loss against the Thunder to get their first win since learning Manu is out for the rest of the season. Taking down OKC, 99-89, Tim Duncan had 25 points and 10 rebounds as Tony Parker scored 21 to go with 10 assists. Kevin Durant led the Thunder with 24 points while Jeff Green added 16.

The Bobcats won a big game against the Sixers, 101-98, in their quest to make the playoffs. Raymond Felton finished with 32 points as Gerald Wallace added 29 points and 11 rebounds. Andre Miller had 23 points for the Sixers and Louis Williams added 20.

Houston got a big win over Orlando, defeating them, 93-83 behind 20 points and 16 boards from Yao Ming. Ron Artest added 16 and Von Wafer had 14. Rashard Lewis scored 22 points to go with 12 rebounds for the Magic as Dwight Howard scored just 13 points to go with 12 rebounds.

The Bulls managed to pull out the 110-103 victory over the Knicks, thanks to clutch free throws from Ben Gordon down the stretch. Gordon finished with 17, Derrick Rose had 18 and Kirk Hinrich added 25 points off of the bench. Wilson Chandler scored 26 to lead the Knicks, Al Harrington scored 23 and David Lee added 17 points and 13 boards.

Blazers took down the Grizzlies, 96-93 thanks to a second half that saw them outscore Memphis 61-46. Brandon Roy had 24 points for the Blazers while OJ Mayo had 31 for the Grizz.

Lakers pummled the Kings, 122-104. While I was falling asleep, I caught Sasha Vujacic throw down a dunk (not sure who it was on, sorry), and then caught sight of the Laker bench cheering him on. I fell asleep shortly after that. Pau Gasol had 26 points and 12 rebounds for the Lakers while Kobe Bryant added 22. Spencer Hawes led the Kings with 21 points and 15 rebounds as Jason Thompson added 18 points and 11 rebounds.

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  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    If I take the two best point guards in the league and use their two games in Miami as a mini fact gathering task….I’ve got to be completley honest, CP3 is head and shoulders above Deron in the best in the game conversation. He is such a distruption on the defensive end…..knows how to draw fouls…..finishes great…..hits his J regulary…..makes obsene passes….has fire when the team needs it….he’s just ridiculous.

  • http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/scoreboard Fred34

    K-Love !@#!@# 15 boards in 26 min. – Where’s the love Holly?

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    HOLLY!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • MSkittle

    No mention of the Rasual Butler shot?

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    Let’s kick off this party the way we left off last time… Lebron > Kobe =/ MJ

  • http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/scoreboard Fred34

    Baron Davis = MVP . . . . . .. Baron Davis – a likable chap, financing a flick on Gangs in LA – Crips and Bloods: Made in America – http://www.cripsandbloodsmovie.com/blog/Lil_wayne_baron_davis_crips_bloods/

  • German Reignman

    So, whats the price for being the best Linkstigator in your “NCCA” bracket at #6 ? do I get my screen name in gold letters from now on ?

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Speedy Claxton is still in the league???

  • http://lacuevacrosscountry.com Slick Nick Da Ruler

    Eboy, you’re making a broad assesment based off a sample of 2 games in Miami? Who are you, Hollinger?

  • Squirrel7

    Not often I agree with Eboy, but I don’t understand how people can overlook CP3 leading Deron in pretty much every single statistical category, yet citing only their head-to-head encounters as the reason why the Jazz man is the better player. While Williams is a great player, Paul is superior in almost every way.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Glad to have you back Holly. It’s that time of the year for colds. Hope you get back to playoff form soon enough. It isn’t the same without The Post Up.

  • Squirrel7

    Agreed, Tad. For a start, I’ve had to resort to actually doing work in the afternoons! (as its about 2pm here when the Post-Up usually appears).

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Nick…..I’m not making that leap off of just the two games I saw live in Miami…..I’ve watched about 25 games of each of them this season and Chris just has “it”……an it that Deron just doesn’t quite have….yet.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    CP3>Deron. However, like the Kobe vs. Bron debate, you just aren’t going to convince people who are on one side or the other in this debate.

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    Eboy: Because all I’m doing is continuously typing in the same automated command again and again today, and I desperately need conversation of some sort, what do you believe is the ceiling for both Deron and Paul? I personally believe Deron could be as great as Gary Payton… while I could see Chris Paul reaching Isiah Thomas-type talent level.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Very true. But I don’t think the exchanges ever get THAT heated.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Jukai, I think that’s kind of accurate…..but I don’t think Deron is as tenacious in his nature as GP was on the defensive end. I actually think that as a singular talent….CP3 will surpass Zeke….but it’s so early on in their career…it’s so hard to say. You know what’s funny too…..on NBATV last night…..they were talking about the HOF class and GP said that he could see Stockton playing today…..20 to 25 minutes a game easy….at his current age. Pretty odd, right?

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    Eboy: If Myles or Ryan were there with GP, they woulda thrown a #$*) fit, with Ryan constantly looking annoyed at Ahmad and growling under his breath, “I don’t know why we’re still talking about THIS!”
    I wasn’t really comparing Deron to Gary Payton, just saying he could reach that level of skill. I know a lot of people hate comparing talent who have finished their respective careers and the talent now, but I don’t see a problem with it. I’ll just rank them lower or higher in my mind as time passes.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    GP is odd. But anyway, i’m thinking Jukai’s comparison is pretty good, which is odd.

  • http://lacuevacrosscountry.com Slick Nick Da Ruler

    Eboy, fair enough. I think CP3 has had the superior career as well, and Im glad you based it off of many live games. I dont know about CP3′s place in the game because he’s only been good for a few years. Lets revisit the Zeke talk in 3 years.

    Stockton could not play today, I dont care what GP says. GP stayed playing when it was obvious that he couldnt play at NBA level.

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    Slick Nick: If it wasn’t for GP, the Miami Heat wouldn’t have a trophy. For real. Respect yer elders!

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    Also, because no one is un-moderating it in the Sasha video, I will post this greatness here:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHeXmAHr1Sw

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    omg CP looks tiny in the header pic! Wade looks absolutely HUGE!

  • http://lastknickstanding.blogspot.com Bryan

    Co sign eboy. Man that’s all I got right now…

  • http://www.mynameinorange.blogspot.com Hisham

    The Post up! well isn’t that nice. missed it for 2 days. seems like FOREVERRr

  • http://www.mynameinorange.blogspot.com Hisham

    and speedy claxton just made me google pics of his wife. isn’t that pathetic? yes it is!

  • http://www.mynameinorange.blogspot.com Hisham

    this internet phenomenon is getting out of hand

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    Just curious: does anyone see a similarity between Chauncey Billups and Andre Miller in the way they both play?

  • http://www.mynameinorange.blogspot.com Hisham

    Andre Miller is much cooler

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    gp is not a source. he prolly thinks he can play right now. as did pip last year around the deadline. i dont have any faith in a player making a comeback and being fairly effective in a limited role after 45 unless they’re mj. / e, how do you play 48 mins off the bench?! that’s crazy to me. just start the dude, already.

  • http://www.another48minutes.blogspot.com Gerard Himself

    Man, that Heat-Hornets game was dreadful. Aside from the Butler shot, the game was sloppy. And Wade deserved to get kicked out. He just lorst the ball, there was no foul.

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    HOLLAAAA! Holly’s back…… Get your freak on!

  • Lz – Cphfinest3

    I love GP the player. GP the analyst can be outright annoying especially teamed with Webber. Pitifull to see Wade whining like that after he threw away the ball.

  • Myung

    A Hawks win + a Heat loss + a Sixers loss = a GREAT night for Hawks fans. The magic # is 2 to clinch the 4th seed…

  • Myung

    I’m glad to have found several of you on Facebook. Also, the audacity of Speedy Claxton (the black Jon Koncak)… wow.

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    Hursty, Wade IS huge compared to Chris. Boy don’t play around when it’s about the weights. Check the arms, imposing stuff.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    You’re still not getting out of the first round Myung…..so stop being so optimistic.

  • Myung

    Blah blah blah, eboy. Blah blah blah.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Yeah, I know……you’ll be blah, blah, blahing about 2 weeks from now when Bibby nuts up in a crucial moment in Game Three and the series falls apart for them like it was 2000 in Sacremento all over again.

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    Andre Miller compared to Billiups? Apart from the similar post game, i find Miller has a better handle plus lots of clever little pass fakes on contested drives. Chauncey shoots way better from the arc and relies on that a lot. Plus his drives are simpler, 1 fake or quick direction change then pedal to the metal until he scores or gets clobbered. Andre is also super underrated….. Still.

  • http://neworleansbasketball.blogspot.com Caleb

    Not mentioning Rasual Butler is a crime. He’s as clutch as they come.

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    damn, Myung with an inane senseless response to a E(boy)-Taunt. When did that start happening? slamonline be dumbing us dowwwwn.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    myung, the hawks are not going anywhere. i watched the game and the raptors broadcasters where talking about how he was looking defiantly at woodson everytime he’d shoot a 3. either he has a problem with authority or the coach has a problem with commanding respect from his team. atually, i think it’s a little bit of both. anyways, i don’t think you win with guys like josh smith. he doesn’t get it. he’s a 6’9 240 leaper and shotblocker that should play the 4 like a… 4! he’s not a 3. i feel very strongly about this. his board numbers are embarassing for someone of his size and leaping ability.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Shut up, Dark. Little fu*ker.

  • http://where-basketball-b-longs.blogspot.com/ B. Long

    Good to have the Post Up back. I have to say as much as that Sasha facial on Fransico was fun to watch, I was much happier to see The Machine knock down some contested threes. That’s what the Lakers need from him for the playoffs. And who would’ve thought that Shannon Brown would be the one playing the most out of that whole Vlad/Adam trade. Brown has been putting up some great minutes lately.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    caleb, that was luck. he had another shot that was clutch not too long ago but that was pure luck.

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    Wait, what did Myung say? Bla bla bla, arrrrgh…whitehot…. Bla

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    i’ve always liked brown. seems like a good kid with a good attitude and some athletic abilitiees. hard to believe that 3 nba teams have already given up on him. he doesn’t have a position though. he could find a niche as a defensive minded point guard that won’t create but won’t turn it over either. he’s too small and not skilled enough to be a scoring 2, imo.

  • Myung

    You’re funny, eboy. We’ll see how funny YOU are in 2 weeks, sir.

  • Myung

    Z, I tend to agree with most everything you say on here, even about Josh Smith (as I am one of his harshest critics)… but in spite of the differences coach and player have, we’ll get to round 2.

  • http://www.nba.com The Seed

    CP3 might surpass Zeke, is funny, maybe the GM Zeke. Zeke won two titles back to back in the era with MJ, Larry, Dominique, Magic. Come on. I am tired of this CP3 stuff, he has only had two good years and Deron will be the better player in the future with a better player at 2 guard, because of his jumpshooting abiltiy and his superior ability to finish around the basket or dunk on you. CP3 is getting too much love from folks, Plus I don’t even see CP3 having a better career than Kevin Johnson. KJ average 17.9 points, 9.1 assists and 1.5 steals a game.

  • http://double-technical.blogspot.com Zee!

    Shannon Brown needs to play with that chip on his shoulder going into the playoffs. If he keeps getting decent minutes he could give the Lakers a boost at the pg spot. I just don’t feel right with only Fish and Farmar at the PG slot. Wrong Jordan to have going into the playoffs.

  • http://double-technical.blogspot.com Zee!

    And will any of the new school pg’s have a shot at passing Stocktons all-time AST numbers?

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    not going anywhere meant as in not getting out of round 2 and not being a serious contender. the first round is pretty much a given. miami and philly are not peaking and have obvious flaws. size for the former and shooting for the latter. well, miami also suffers from a serious lack of talent.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    cp3′s career avg are already 19-10 with 2.5 steals and you’re saying that he won’t top kj’s avg?! i wish people would just do some research before posting nonsense, the data is there for everyone to see. first four years in the L : 16-8, 17-9, 21-12, 23-11. he’s exactly on zeke’s pace, look it up. and deron’s superior ability to finish around the basket? cp3 shoots for 60% in the paint with 263 makes. deron (not too shabby either) is at 57% on 209 makes. numbers won’t hurt you, basketret, nba hotsports, the data is there.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    basketball reference*

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    It’s too bad Dwight dominated Yao, again..

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    I’m upset. Myung hasn’t found me on facebook yet.

  • http://www.nba.com The Seed

    I used basketball reference too, See Z over his whole career, CP3 has been in the league for only 5 years and assist numbers today are inflated. I did do research and saw CP3 numbers, PLus CP3 shoots in the paint alot with floaters and the makes stuff is crap. Who are you Hollinger in disguise. Who cares about numbers when comparing players. Numbers and stats can be inflated depending on what teams/players you play with and the offense being run by that team. You should know that. I was simply saying KJ had an awesome career and CP3 career has been good, but really what has he done so far in the NBA, there have been many point guards and CP3 CAN”T TOUCH ZEKE, YOU ON THAT STUFF MAN. ZEKE COULD HAVE AVERAGE 30 a game if he didn’t play a team game. COME ON!!!

  • http://www.nba.com The Seed

    Z, actually Chris Paul numbers are 19.3points 9.8 assists and 2.4 steals. Has been in the league for 4 years. KJ played in the league for 12 years with 17.9, 9.1, 1.5 so lets see if Chris numbers stay this high, maybe not.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    The Seed: Ohhhhhhhh man! Ok, i’m a huge Zeke fan, at least from his playing days. While I agree that Zeke could have done so much more individually if he wanted to, you can’t forget that those Bad Boy teams were S-T-A-C-K-E-D. Chuck Daly literally played 10 guys a night without thinking twice about it. Seriously, Chris Paul has a rec league squad compared to that. Paul’s numbers are not inflated. I’ve never understood that argument unless it was talking about a run-n-gun team like the Suns or Warriors. CP3 earns all of his numbers. Regardless, I don’t need stats to show me how good of a basketball player CP3 is; I have my two eyeballs.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    i’ll argue that his avg will be even higher as he’s not even in his prime. 20+ points and 10+ assists will be routine for him for the next 7-8 years. your argument doesn’t make sense. are you saying that chris paul is not playing a team game and gunning for his? and on what basis are you saying that assists numbers are inflated nowadays compared to the late 80s – early 90s?

  • http://where-basketball-b-longs.blogspot.com/ B. Long

    I may be late on this but has anyone else here seen the Lance Stephenson special on Coney Island on MTV Jams. Why did I not know about this before?

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    Dwight never looks good against Yao (who many perceive as soft, big mistake) since Howard doesn’t have a jumper or reliable jumphook yet, the truly tall talented Centers give him trouble. And Yao has good help in the frontcourt with Scola (tough as nails), Landry (undersized 4 with great hops and heart) and even Jean Jacques (in limited minutes). So he doesn’t have to guard Dwight on every play.

  • http://www.nba.com The Seed

    No, I said Zeke could have had better numbers, but I see Z you are a CP3 fan, so of course you hope his numbers go up, but I don’t think so and lets get something clear i think CP3 is a good point guard, but I read something eariler on this chat about Zeke numbers, so I was showing that KJ had great numbers and if KJ was playing in a New Orleans offense, his numbers would be higher. New Orleans is run and gun team with one post up player to me-David West.

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    Seed: If you’re so damn knowledgeable and don’t use “stats” to determine how players actually played, you know KJ was a point guard with absolutley NO outside shot and pure depended on a team stacked HEAVY with shooters who would shoot everytime KJ gave them the ball, effectively spreading the floor so that KJ would have constantly driving lanes since he couldn’t score any other way. Not saying KJ ain’t a top-15 all-time point guard talent, but he’s in NO WAY comparable to Chris Paul, who is better in every facet of the game outside of man-on-man defense.

  • http://www.obviated.blogspot.com nick

    Here’s a comparison–Dwight Howard was roundly outplayed by Yao. Again. He’s now 2-7 for his career against Ming the Merciless. I think Shaq was onto something when he said Yao was the League’s best 5….

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    Plus why does everyone give Deron a one-up over Chris Paul in his shooting? I find Paul’s midrange game way more reliable than Deron’s. The only thing I’ll give Deron is his three-point shot, but Deron isnt’ even THAT much better an outside shooter. It boggles my mind.
    Also, KJ would be far worse playing for New Orleans. He’d have no driving lane in a half-court set and depending on an increpid Peja to get his assists. The moment Barkley came to down, KJ’s assists dropped, so that should tell you something right there.

  • http://www.nba.com The Seed

    Jukai point exactly, you just described this New Orleans team offense in your comment- with no post game, and alot of shooters, Majority of CP3 points come in the paint, from screen and rolls, so KJ would be in the paint alot shooting floaters or kicking the ball out to the three point shooters. KJ is so under rated as a point guard, if only they could have beat the bulls for that title.

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    Seed, you gotta me kidding me. Outside of David West, no one straight up shoots contested shots after Paul passes it to them (which is what some players on Phoenix would do with KJ. Not because they were purposefully inflating KJ’s assists, but because they couldn’t damn well do any better). KJ did not pass as well to runners or big men, which Chris Paul is MASTERFUL at. Chris Paul also IMMENSELY better shooting pretty much anywhere and everywhere on the court (KJ may have been a bit better finishing with contact because of his size, that’s pretty much all I’ll give him). KJ was also a step slower so he never got as many steals. I mean, lord, KJ is a very underrated point guard but comparing him to Chris Paul is like comparing him to Zeke or Kidd… it’s just a crazy comparison!

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    …almost as crazy as comparing Deron williams to Gary Payton. Those two are almsot as different as two PGs could be.

  • http://lacuevacrosscountry.com Slick Nick Da Ruler

    Chris Paul is good at basketball, so was KJ. We aren’t.

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    Ciolkstar: I said that I didn’t think Deron Williams was like Gary Payton, only that Deron Williams would finish his career on the skill level of Gary Payton. If you had read all my comments (I know reading is very hard for you, sounding out all those letters, so it’s excusable) you’d have gotten that in at least one of the two posts I stated that in.
    Thanks.

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    Dwight’s post game has actually improved quite a bit in the last few years. He’s a lot less fumbly with the ball and makes better decisions. Post game is still raw, still can’t shoot though. He does well against smaller guys, but when he can’t physically dominate, he doesn’t have enough finesse weapons to do well yet. Still, the only 2 people who he can’t push around easily are Yao and Shaq, just by virtue of their sheer size. Still, I don’t think Dwight will ever become the offensive force that Shaq or Hakeem or Olajuwon ever was. He’s more like a much, much more dynamic version of Dikembe to me.

  • http://nba.com tealish

    Is no one talking about the Dwade fiasco at the end of last night’s game? He got ejected arguing about the cleanest steal of all time. It was a bit disappointing to see him do that.

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    Regarding the Deron-CP debate, the only reason why I think they even are seen as rivals is that CP kinda struggles against Deron when they meet, due to Deron’s size advantage and the fact that Utah is huge, deep and better coached. Outside of that, who do you think is going to retire with a career seen in the same light as Zeke, Kidd, Stockton and Magic? Chris Paul, and it really isn’t even close. Deron Williams is a very good point guard in a deep team with one of the best “systems” in basketball. CP has so much less, and has done arguably more.

  • http://www.twitter.com/TheDiesel Anton

    CP3 + Rasul Butler + Sean Marks = Championship

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    Tealish: For the sake of Eboy’s health, we’re letting it slide.

  • http://neworleansbasketball.blogspot.com Caleb

    @Z – yeah, a lot of luck was involved in that shot… but Butler has been the man in crunchtime this season, so it fits.

  • http://neworleansbasketball.blogspot.com Caleb

    @Seed – “New Orleans is a run and gun team.” Uh, what? They run one slow pick-and-roll dominated halfcourt set after another and rarely push the break. They are ranked 28th in pace, making them the third *slowest* team in the league.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Wilson Chandler is a beast.

  • http://ittakesanationofmillionstoholdthissac.blogspot.com ciolkstar

    Jukai:
    What does “on the skill level of Gary Payton” mean? These comparsions you seem to incessantly pose are SO WORTHLESS. He’s already better in nearly every offensive category(probably doesn’t throw the lob pass as well, but it could just seem that way because he doesn’t have Shawn Kemp catching em), but he will NEVER be a comparable defender, and obviously lacks the blazing speed of Payton. You and your assisine lists and comparisons/rankings will never stop I guess. I’d really recommend occasionally watching NBA basketball rather than dorking out on Basketball reference (admittedly, a great site) and stroking to Steve Nash and Rick Barry youtube clips. I know your a computer guy, but the game is not all 1s and 0s, no matter how bad you want it to be.

  • http://sfdjilf.com Jukai

    I’ll try and explain this to you as simply as I can, and I’ll limit the syllables so it’s easier to understand, but since I can’t demonstrate this to you with hand-puppets and a cartoonish voice, I make no promises that you’ll understand this.
    I believe Deron Williams will be on Gary Payton’s ‘level.’ I believe their career achievements (or, for you, ‘good things they do in the league’) will be comparable. I believe that when you look back at both Gary Payton and Deron Williams, you will view them in the same way in terms of how great they were in the NBA. And yes, if you threw them on a damn list of greats in the NBA, they’d be relatively close to one another.
    It’s so aggrivating and old to hear someone whine with tears in their eyes, “YOU CAN’T COMPARE THE TWO THEY’RE TOTALLY DIFFERENT!!” I like oranges better than apples, I think they’re more nutricious and I personally like a tangy tastes better than the less juicy, less flavorful apple. I also believe that the apple core prevents you from eating as much as you’d like, while you can pretty much eat everything but the peel of an orange. Wait, whoa! Omg! I just compared apples and oranges! World shattering!
    Man, you’ve been real hissy ever since your homo man love Manu went out for the season.

  • rock lob

    will bynum=flip murray

  • http://www.nba.com/suns Dacre

    machine. out like trout.

  • http://www.twitter.com/lkzug_basket Darksaber

    YES. YES. YESSSSSS! Dallas just made the playoffs and is tied for 7th with Utah (after beating them 130-101 today). Peaking at the right moment is an art, and for the second regular season in a row, Dirk has been great in the stretch run. (last year he even had a terrible high ankle sprain to end the season but still shot the lights out to help secure the postseason berth). Josh can do all the bleeding/spraining/running out at halftime he want’s, as long as he keeps on playing through the pain, and doing what’s necessary to win (SEVEN Steals, yueauuhh) Dallas is winning. As Borat might eloquently put it….”me liiiike”.

  • vonkers

    Will Bynum is more of a PG than Flip Murray, but I see the comparison on some level.

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