Thursday, May 21st, 2009 at 9:53 am  |  96 responses

SLAMonline Mock Draft: Hasheem Thabeet, No. 2

The Commish picks a defensive big man. But is he tough enough?

Hasheem Thabeet

by Vincent Thomas / @vincecathomas

With the second pick in the 2009 SLAMonline Mock Draft, the Memphis Grizzlies select…

Hasheem Thabeet. Every time I see this Ricky Rubio mix or this one or that one, I fleetingly convince myself into selecting the 18-year-old savant. He’s got more flair than Brian from Office Space. You gotta use words like “uncanny” and “special” and “brilliant” to describe some of the moves he pulls out of the crack of his narrow @$$. Rubio, like his fellow SLAM coverboy Brandon Jennings, captures the imagination—he’s arresting. Meanwhile, my current point guard, Mike Conley, doesn’t exactly have me caught up in rapture. So why then, am I passing on Rubio—who could be one of the defining players of his generation—for a dude who has been described as Dikembe Mutombo, at best, and Brad Sellers, at worst? Because, I’m all about composition, balance and identity; and Mutombo is exactly what I need.

It’s scary, though, checking my roster and seeing the name “Darko Milicic.” I’m nowhere near the GM that Joe Dumars is and it was he who tricked himself into passing on Melo, DWade and Bosh, because he thought Milicic was the type of talent his team “needed.” If Joe was duped, I can only imagine my capacity to get bamboozled. I mean, I don’t need to rehash my executive mistakes. My cohorts and the opinionators always preach drafting for talent and not team need. That means, if it’s 1997 and you already have a big man like David Robinson, you still draft Tim Duncan and make it work. But this isn’t just about filling a void. It’s not, “we need size, let’s bypass Rubio or the equally tantalizing Jennings and kop Thabeet.”

If I draft Rubio, that basically means that I’m going to either let Rudy Gay walk at the end of his contract or trade him before the end before next season’s deadline. It might even mean that I’m not sold on O.J. I say that because, Rubio-Mayo-Gay seems like too much dynamism for one perimeter. Rubio is a playmaker. Playmakers need the rock. Remember when the Lakers drafted Magic and, every time a fast break started, Magic and point guard Norm Nixon would fight over the ball? That’s what I envision with a Rubio-Mayo backcourt. Not so much on breaks (I cream my pants thinking about O.J. and Rudy on the wings getting Houdini-dishes from Rubio), but in almost every other offensive scenario. I want to make Mayo-Gay work. The best way to do that is keep Conley, let him continue developing into a solid, preferably really good, starting point guard—a newer version of the Chauncey Billups orchestrator-archetype. Someone who can create, yes, but someone that I won’t feel like I’m wasting when he gives it up to my two wings and says “go ‘head.” And then, I want to back up my Mayo-Gay foundation with a rebounding, defensive 4-5 combo.

We already have Marc Gasol (yes, I know he and Rubio come with built-in chemistry from their Spain days, which makes the Rubio pick look even better); by adding Thabeet, we’d have one of the most imposing front courts in tHasheem Thabeetwo or three years. That gives us a young, athletic squad, with defined roles and a potentially stifling defense (all three perimeter guys can get after it). That’s a team that, in theory, wins a championship, at some point. Nobody thinks Mayo-Gay can work, but I do.

I don’t know if Thabeet will ever become Mutombo. He has that potential, though. He’s an exceptional rebounder and a “real” shot blocker. I say “real” because he rarely swats the ball out of bounds like every other doofus big man in the game. He changes a game and can end up having the broadest impact of any of the top five prospects. His suspect toughness worries me. I would love it if he were confrontational. If he were ornery, he wouldn’t have let DeJuan Blair thug his lunch money, like he did in January. I can see Kendrick Perkins and Nene turning him into a Shook One (shhh, that’s why I wanna lay about $1 million a year on Charles Oakley to come work with him). I want the young dude to work on his post moves, but, again, I’m about building a team identity through role-definition. Marc is our low post offensive threat. Thabeet needs to focus on putbacks and that’s really it…then go down on the other end and shut down about 80 square feet of the court. There’s a flimsiness about Rubio and his game, an emptiness. He reminds me of two recent players, a mix of Jason Williams and Shaun Livingston. Soooo…. Bottom line: I want a substantial squad.

I could very well regret this decision and every time I think about that $7.5 million we’re paying Darko next year—or look at those YouTube mixes—I get cold feet. But between now and late-June, I will sufficiently convince myself that this is the prescient, tactical, smart pick. Yeah, Thabeet—I’m rollin’ with the Tanzanian.

2009 SLAMonline Mock Draft Results
Pick Team Player
1 L.A. Clippers Blake Griffin
2 Memphis Grizzlies Hasheem Thabeet

Vincent Thomas is a columnist and feature writer for SLAM, a contributing commentator for ESPN and writes the weekly “From The Floor” column for NBA.com. You can email him your feedback at vincethomas79@gmail.com or follow him on Twitter at @vincecathomas.

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  • Ben Osborne Posted: May.21 at 10:04 am
    I woulda taken Ricky in a heartbeat.

  • Justin Walsh Posted: May.21 at 10:11 am
    myself as well. This just makes Oklahoma City more loaded thanks to pick 3 I’d wager

  • Jukai Posted: May.21 at 10:15 am
    Co-sign, Vincent. Unless we take in trades: I’d draft Ricky and dangle him over OKC so that they give up their third pick and an expiring/other draft picks.

  • Ryne Nelson Posted: May.21 at 10:19 am
    Tough choice for the Thunder next. Do they take Rubio although they already have a good (and NBA-ready) PG in Westbrook?

  • ciolkstar Posted: May.21 at 10:20 am
    Yeah, Hasheem really fits what Memphis needs and though he’s still very raw, he’s got the kind of athleticism,length and size that just does’t come around very often. I still wouldn’t be surprised to see them draft Ricky here and trade him to the higest bidder…
    Besides, I’d much rather see Ricky in OKC. Damn, how fun would that team be?

  • Tzvi T. Posted: May.21 at 10:40 am
    I think that Gay and Mayo can’t and won’t coexist (much longer). So I would have taken RR. But even if I wouldn’t of taken RR, there is no way I was taking Hashem–I mean, I remember S. Bradley all too well.

  • Tavoris Posted: May.21 at 10:40 am
    Jukai, did u see the comparison vincent made? I’m not the only one who sees Shaun Livingston in Rubio, apparently

  • Tyler Whitcomb Posted: May.21 at 10:41 am
    Memphis will draft Rubio and trade Conley. The Thunder would love to bring in Thabeet. There was an ESPN article which put Thabeet with the Thunder and showed some real promise for the Thunder. However, now in your draft with Thabeet going 2, I guess I would still draft Rubio. I was once told by an NBA GM to always draft the best player available and not by position. Another option would to grab Derozan. That would be one hell of an athletic team with Westbrook, Derozan, Durant, and Green!!!!! A backcourt of Rubio, Westbrook, and Durant! I don’t know.

  • Tyler Whitcomb Posted: May.21 at 10:42 am
    Who is drafting for the Pistons in your mock Draft?

  • Tavoris Posted: May.21 at 10:42 am
    Ryne, I think OKC would probably take Jordan Hill at 3…if Thabeet isn’t available. if Thabeet is there, then he’s definitely their pick

  • B. Long Posted: May.21 at 10:43 am
    Westbrook is gonna carve more of a D-Wade type niche on the Thunder, Ryne. If Rubio ends up on the Thunder, I may have to break down and buy one of those hideous jerseys.

  • Tavoris Posted: May.21 at 10:45 am
    I kinda like Harden at 3 to OKC too…he seems a PERFECT fit along a slashing PG (Westbrook) and a do-everything 3 (Durant). Plus, he’s a good enuf passer and shooter that Westbrook could let out his inner Dwayne Wade.

  • B. Long Posted: May.21 at 10:46 am
    There is no damn way on God’s green Earth that the Thunder draft Jordan Hill at 3. Unless about 12 people in the draft die from the swine flu, it ain’t happening.

  • MeloMan13 Posted: May.21 at 10:49 am
    TANZANIAAAA! my dads from there, finally a baller reppin them. and this makes sense, rubio , mayo and gay woildnt work. not enough ball to go around

  • Tavoris Posted: May.21 at 10:54 am
    B Long, Jordan Hill is the next best big in the draft other than Griffin. and Bigs are actually something OKC need more than a PG.

  • ciolkstar Posted: May.21 at 10:56 am
    I’m with BLong here. I don’t think Jordan Hill belongs anywhere in the top 8 or so picks. Also, I think OKC goes with Rubio, Thabeet, or maybe Harden (if they feel like they want to stick with westbrook as their PG)

  • ciolkstar Posted: May.21 at 10:59 am
    Hill reminds me of a rich man’s Mikki Moore. He’s long and can run and jump but he’s pretty weak, especially on defense. I just don’t think he’d be worth drafting (and benching Jeff Green?) for. Harden actaully fits a need for OKC fairly well. If they take Rubio, their ONLY weakness would be perimeter shooting and their interior defense would still need to improve.

  • BETCATS Posted: May.21 at 11:00 am
    they got Mark Gasol and Hakeem Warrick and the Iranian guy and Darko, i dont think another big is what they need. They also have Mike Conely JR, so they have no need for Rubio. The Grizz should trade their pick.

  • Tavoris Posted: May.21 at 11:04 am
    ciolkstar..I agree with you about the Mikki Moore comparison…Green has shown that he’s effective coming off the bench. Actually, thats the best place 4 him with that team (sorta like Odom in LA). But then again, this draft is 1 pretty-sure thing (Griffin), and a bunch of “potential”

  • BETCATS Posted: May.21 at 11:05 am
    and the Thunder should take James Harden. Move Durant to Small Forward, have Thabo play 6th man. Their team would be raw.

  • Tavoris Posted: May.21 at 11:07 am
    BETCATS, who would they trade the pick to…the Grizz actually do have a lot of young talent…they’d b better served trrading the pick and a young guy-try to get a vet who can bring them together (Andre Miller?)

  • Jukai Posted: May.21 at 11:13 am
    Ryne Nelson: Westbrook is a combo guard who can easily play off the ball and guard a two. Rubio has played most of his career under Fernandez’s shadow so he’ll also have no problem occassionally giving the ball up to Westbrook to drive and score. Rubio in OKC just makes too much sense.
    Tavoris: All I’m saying is that a 6’4 defensive player of the year who prefers over-head pick and rolls and no-look passes is a bit different from a 6’8 no-defensive player who prefers bounce passes and faking-shooting-to-toss it off. I get the comparisons, both skinny amazing ball handlers who can’t shoot but have other intangibles that make them so deadly, but I can compare any player in the NBA to anyone else and use SOMETHING to connect them.
    I’m also totally in disagreement with OKC drafting Hill. That wont happen. Ever. OKC has ENOUGH fire-power, and that’s all Hill will ever be, firepower. Get either a great defensive big who can keep up with the team’s pace (Thabeet) or a great classic point guard who knows how to play and cater to stars but will also get everyone easy buckets (Rubio). The choice is simple.

  • Jukai Posted: May.21 at 11:14 am
    BETCATS: Think what you just said. THINK about it. Memphis has Darko and that “Iranian guy.” I think Memphis could use some help in that backcourt.

  • Jukai Posted: May.21 at 11:17 am
    OKC will have the most talented backcourt in the NBA if they run a Rubio-Westbrook-Durant combo. Damn, that would be sweet. It’s Delonte-Williams-Lebron lite. Get some good bigs from all the other draft picks you have for the next two years, you’ll be set.

  • ciolkstar Posted: May.21 at 11:18 am
    Durant is already their SF, BET. He just handles the ball and plays out on the perimeter a lot, like Bron. Memphis has a lot of talented offensive players, but they still need a defensive presence (Gasol can score in the post, but can’t defend it for sh1t) if they ever want to make the playoffs again. Thabeet is the right fit. Unless they trade Gay or Conley, drafing another wing/guard/offensive playewr doesn’t make sense…

  • Jukai Posted: May.21 at 11:19 am
    Ciolkstar: it still makes sense for Memphis to draft Rubio and trade down for Thabeet though. They’re in a pretty good bargaining position.

  • BETCATS Posted: May.21 at 11:20 am
    @Jukai: all those players can turn into valuble contributors are semi-stars when they reach their prime. I dont see Thabeet being any better than that. @Tavoris: The #2 pick in the draft can get a lot more than Andre Miller. That is for their GM to figure out though.

  • Justin Walsh Posted: May.21 at 11:22 am
    You guys ready for me to use my daily DD push? Demar Derozan should be off the board by pick 6. If he isn’t, I’m berating the GM’s in my post. Kidding, or am I? All I know is, my pick is going to be controversial like Russ Westbrook was at the time.

  • BETCATS Posted: May.21 at 11:22 am
    cio: NO HE IS NOT. I watched the Thunder last year, Durant was listed as shooting guard and guarded oposing teams shooting guards. Scott Brooks realized that Durant was to skinny to be a small forward. I think James Harden + Durant buffing up = good idea.

  • WhaHuh Posted: May.21 at 11:24 am
    Marc Gasol, Hamed Haddadi and Darko Milicic say no thabeet

  • ciolkstar Posted: May.21 at 11:31 am
    BET, Durant started the yearas the teams SG, then when Brooks came on he moved KD to the SF, which really only means that he played 2 guards + KD rather than the PG + KD + 3 other forwards.

  • Jukai Posted: May.21 at 11:33 am
    BETCATS: Thabeet will definitely get better, dude’s been playing ball for what, five years? I’m not saying he’ll make an all-star team (but I am saying Hill wont) but he will be able to play DEFENSIVELY at an NBA level. In a normal situation, would he be a second pick in the NBA draft? No, but Ricky RUbio is out of the option for Memphis unless they trade either Gay or Mayo, and everyone else is too “project” for me to say they’ll be better than Thabeet. Everyone but Rubio and Griffin may very well be out of the L in a few years because they never improved. That includes DeRozan and Hill. For real.

  • ciolkstar Posted: May.21 at 11:34 am
    BET, thats why there’s an issue with Green playing PF. If Durant was the Thunder’s two then green could play the three.
    The Thunder starters:
    PG – Westbrook
    SG – Sefolosha
    SF – Kevin Durant
    PF – Jeff green
    C – Collison/Kristic Unless you say sefolosha was their SF, and he probably did guard some other SF’s because he’s a better defender than KD…

  • Jukai Posted: May.21 at 11:35 am
    Plus, statistically, Kevin Durant does better playing at the three spot than at the two spot. He can’t guard premier twos anyway, so put him in a matchup where the threes can’t guard him.

  • BETCATS Posted: May.21 at 11:37 am
    Why do all of you underplay Mark Gasol and Hakeem Warrick? And i refuse to belive that Hasheem Thabeet will be anything more than a skinnier, taller, Desegna Diop.

  • [...] SLAM’s second pick of their mock draft – Hasheem Thabeet: “Every time I see this Ricky Rubio mix or this one or that one, I fleetingly convince myself into selecting the 18-year-old savant. He’s got more flair than Brian from Office Space. You gotta use words like “uncanny” and “special” and “brilliant” to describe some of the moves he pulls out of the crack of his narrow @$. Rubio, like his fellow SLAM coverboy Brandon Jennings, captures the imagination-he’s arresting. Meanwhile, my current point guard, Mike Conley, doesn’t exactly have me caught up in rapture. So why then, am I passing on Rubio-who could be one of the defining players of his generation-for a dude who has been described as Dikembe Mutombo, at best, and Brad Sellers, at worst? Because, I’m all about composition, balance and identity; and Mutombo is exactly what I need.” [...]

  • ciolkstar Posted: May.21 at 11:41 am
    Gasol is pretty nice on offense I keep saying, but the Grizzle’s interior D was atrocious all year. No bigs rotating, ever. I’d actually play Gasol at the four against bigger teams, and maybe and to back up Thabeet inside. This guy can really be a game changer defensively, I think he’ll be better than Oden will ever be, because he can, ya know, actually run.

  • BETCATS Posted: May.21 at 11:42 am
    cio: i watched the Thunder, and i can tell you Green does fine and Power Forward, he actually is better at Power Forward then at Small Forward. Durant plays better at Shooting Guard, as he creates a automatic mismatch with defenders given his height, and can keep up with Shooting Guards do to his speed. Brooks did recognize this, and that is why, i can tell you he made Thabo guard Small Forwards and play small forward, while Durant played a shooting guard-like role. If Durant bulks up, him and Harden can do work.

  • warr Posted: May.21 at 11:48 am
    the safe pick a person that can score and has size, hardin guard from arizona state.

  • Chendaddy Posted: May.21 at 11:49 am
    So I’m guessing all of you are giving up on Darrell Arthur? Thabeet isn’t a bad pick at all for Memphis, and I wouldn’t give up on Mike Conley yet either. But the draft mistake I’d be scared of is Portland trading out of the 3 spot in 2005 and bypassing Deron Williams, Chris Paul, even Raymond Felton because they had confidence in … Sebastian Telfair. You contradict yourself, Vince. You say a Rubio-Mayo-Gay combination couldn’t work. That’s sandwiched between saying you draft Duncan even if you already have Robinson, and how Magic couldn’t get along with Norm Nixon when he first got to the Lakers. I think the Spurs and Lakers worked those issues out just fine. Oh, and for those who stress ALWAYS drafting for talent over need, let me take you back to 2005 again, when Atlanta drafted Marvin Williams over Deron Williams and Chris Paul. Talent can be misleading. Last note: I love this draft series. I wish I could fast-forward 28 (58??) days to read them all.

  • Jukai Posted: May.21 at 11:52 am
    Bottom line, adding Ricky Rubio on Memphis will mostly likely stunt either his growth as a player, or OJ Mayo’s growth as a player. Dem the ropes.

  • ciolkstar Posted: May.21 at 11:53 am
    Hey I agree BET, I love Jeff Green as a better rebounding, more agressive, but slightly shorter Rashard Lewis-type PF. And I agree that the Thunder need to play 2 Gs + Durant/Green and a C. So whether you call that a three guard lineup or playing KD as a SF its all the same. I think Harden would be a great fit as well, but it means Westbrook will have to mature as a distributor, he still turns the ball over WAY too much and shoots poorly a lot of nights. I might lean towards Rubio if he and Harden are both available… but it’d be a tough choice.

  • riggs Posted: May.21 at 11:58 am
    BET makes alot of sense.

  • riggs Posted: May.21 at 11:58 am
    did i just say that??

  • warr Posted: May.21 at 11:59 am
    conley has to go, or go to the bench mayo is the smallest starting two guard in the league he has to play the point but i dont know how he will handle the position that why i believe they should draft harden

  • Hersey Posted: May.21 at 12:04 pm
    Rubio has a substantial out-of-pocket buyout still to be worked out. I don’t think Memphis is on his radar. Would you pay to play in Memphis? Rubio is gonna end up in NY or Cali somehow someway

  • Chendaddy Posted: May.21 at 12:04 pm
    Harden would be a good fit with OKC, but Rubio is the same height, has a reputation for tenacious defense, and is a true point and playmaker. He brings far more to the table than Harden does. Rubio’s got to be the pick. As impressive as Russell Westbrook was last year, he was clearly not a true point guard. He is Dwyane Wade Lite, which is not a bad thing at all. But he and Kevin Durant are much better off with someone else, someone with the confidence from years of professional basketball at a high level to make his own on-court decisions, bringing the ball down and distributing.

  • Chendaddy Posted: May.21 at 12:07 pm
    My problem with the Jeff Green and Kevin Durant frontcourt is that they weigh 250 lb combined. Thabeet would be a great fit there. He’s a huge defensive presence who can do all the things that Green can’t. Too bad they won’t get Griffin, though. OKC would have been the team with the biggest potential since the pre-Greg Oden injuries Trailblazers.

  • Jordan3121 Posted: May.21 at 12:12 pm
    NO Thabeet….please God, No Thabeet!! We already have Darko, why add another stiff. Thabeet will never move beyond being a project on the next level imo. If Rubio doesn’t want to play in Memphis(and it’s looking like this is the case) then trade down and try to secure some veteran help as well as possibly add another pick.

  • Teddy-the-Bear Posted: May.21 at 12:18 pm
    The Thunder are going to pick Ricky. Westbrook can probably play shooting guard, too.

  • warr Posted: May.21 at 12:22 pm
    why are yal talking about the thunder when memphis has the second pick

  • breeze Posted: May.21 at 12:29 pm
    ricky for prez’

  • Chendaddy Posted: May.21 at 12:32 pm
    Because Memphis has already made their pick and Emry DowningHall is on the clock.

  • B. Long Posted: May.21 at 1:33 pm
    Hasheem Thabeet is what would’ve happened if Kwame Brown had went to college.

  • Jeff Fox Posted: May.21 at 2:37 pm
    Nice – I just wrote a blog about Rubio needing to go to OKC – now SLAMonline is going to make it happen!

  • ciolkstar Posted: May.21 at 3:32 pm
    You are nuts, BLong. Kwame isn’t nearly as big or long as Thabeet, he has possibly the worst hands I’ve ever seen on a big, and slow feet. Now Thabeet is clearly still a little raw, but he has better physical tools and is probably already better than Kwame, even though he’s only been playing organized ball for like 5 years…

  • Tavoris Posted: May.21 at 4:28 pm
    ciolkstar…u r right…they are two different types of players. Kwame Brown is supposed 2 b the player Dwight Howard was 2 seasons ago. But, Jordan got to that ego, and… BETCATS, the #2 pick is supposed to yield more than Andre Miller, but there aren’t many more pieces that’ll fit in OKC
    @Everyone down on Jordan Hill…not saying he’s deserving of being picked that high, but he WILL. Size with potential will get picked over small with potential every day. Griffin is the closest thing to a sure thing. Rubio is bursting with talent, but for every GM who is raving over him, there is also one who remembers the ghosts of Shane Heal, Saraunas Jacikevicius, Carlos Arroyo, Carlos Delfino, and the myriad of other random euro players who did well against the USA-but failed to translate that into NBA success. As talented as the kid is, you have to imagine he will have 1)a huge adjustment to the NBA game (which is stil VERY different than FIBA-especially defensively), and 2) pressure to perform NOW-he’s easily the most notorious foreign prospect since Yao.

  • Jukai Posted: May.21 at 4:43 pm
    Tavoris: NONE of those dudes you mentioned (outside of Saraunas… not sure what happened to that dude. I wonder if the Clippers never gave him the chance he really deserved) were anywhere close to as hyped as Rubio is. I’d even argue that all those dudes (once agian, outside of Saraunas) isn’t as good as Rubio is RIGHT NOW. Yeah, I said it: Rubio at 18 is better than Carlos Arroyo and Carlos Delfino. Arroyo never could play the point position properly and was always out of position, Delfino was just overrated garbage. Shane Heal, well, is Shane Heal.
    Jordan Hill, at most, will be a poor man’s Amare: and I’m saying that because I don’t think Jordan Hill will ever, EVER get ‘defense’ and that is exactly why OKC wont ever find a use for him. Why would you take a purely offensive player if you have Kevin Durant on your team?

  • Tavoris Posted: May.21 at 4:55 pm
    Jukai, because the draft is pretty weak. And potential (especially 6’9″ 6’10″ potential) will be drafted high. Not saying it’s sensible, but I”d b VERY suprised to see Jordan Hill available after 4.

  • vmcb Posted: May.21 at 4:57 pm
    I don’t like the top half of the lottery. There’s so many players that fit, yet are in conflict with already existing rosters. I don’t know what I would do if I were Memphis. They did just trade away Lowry to free up time for Conley. Do they give up on him so quickly for Rubio? Or do they play it “safe” and draft Thabeet? MY HEART IS RACING.

  • ciolkstar Posted: May.21 at 5:10 pm
    Whoa, Jordan Hill will not go top 4, especially not to Sacramento who already has two skinny bigs with suspect D (Spencer Hawes, Jason Thompson) He’ll go top 6-8, but I don’t see him ever being worth that pick, I’d even say “poor man’s Amare” overstates his strengths.

  • Tavoris Posted: May.21 at 5:22 pm
    ciolkstar, if I was a GM, i wouldnt pick him that high either…but u have to look at the inept franschises that are in those positions. If it that far-fetched that they’d pick a big-that can score?

  • David Posted: May.21 at 5:51 pm
    So part of the mock draft is simulating the bad decision making abilities of the… ‘less fortunate’ teams in the league? Just kidding. Although the NBA draft has lots of examples of project defensive centers that haven’t worked out all that well.

  • Tavoris Posted: May.21 at 5:59 pm
    yep, David…if the GM’s all worked together picked based on need, then Rubio would go #1. The Clips need a PG that will distribute to their MANY scorers more than they need a potentially game-changing PF who may have trouble getting minutes-and shots-his rookie year.

  • ciolkstar Posted: May.21 at 6:29 pm
    ZBo, Kaman, or Camby will need to get traded and Camby is the only guy who’s deal isn’t immoveable at this point. I think they’d be best off trading kaman and trying to convince ZBo to come off the bench as a scorer. The Clips really need to consider hiring a new coach though, because Dun refuses to use all the talent he has effectively. Posting Chris Kaman up 8 times a game is NOT working, OK dude? They have athletes at every position and they need to RUN to take advantage of their strengths.
    Baron Davis, Eric Gordon, AL Thornton, with Griffin and Camby is a BEAST of a starting five.
    The only problem is that it leaves nearly $30 million a year (YIKES!) worth of post players on their bench (Kaman and ZBO) My guess is that they’ll have to move Camby, because he’s the only guy other teams would even consider, for some sorely needed backcourt depth, and to clear some PT for Blake Griffin. So they’ll end up starting Kaman, who will almost certainly get injured at some point, and splittling time with ZBO and Griffin at PF, stifling the rooks growth and making ZBo even moodier, before eventully playing them together in the frontcourt and loosing 50 games. Sounds great, huh?

  • MeloMan13 Posted: May.21 at 6:32 pm
    @ Chendaddy: Have u seen thabeet?? if u combine HIS weight with green and durant its like 350.

  • Tavoris Posted: May.21 at 6:37 pm
    ciolkstar, there is one problem with that lineup…Baron Davis doesn’t distribute the ball….Also, Randolph is NOT gonna come off the bench.

  • Myles Brown Posted: May.21 at 7:14 pm
    I know we can’t propose trades, but are “GMs” allowed to make threats? Cause if any of you take ________ before my sixth pick, Ill kill you.

  • Wanu Posted: May.21 at 7:22 pm
    LOL@ cream in my pants….M dot Gasol, Mt. Thabeet, R.U.D.Y.,OJ and Conley look good on paper….but Conley has to step up his game for this to work, maybe scoopin’ Lindsey Hunter or even Sam Cassell for the player/coach role…Thabeet is from Africa so instead of Oak tree try to get Olajuwon…but a good pick

  • Quail Posted: May.21 at 8:01 pm
    the sad thing is, this is probably wut will happen. either way, OKC will fill a hole with Thabeet or Rubio.

  • swifthammer Posted: May.21 at 8:02 pm
    As one of the few Grizzlies fans that are on this site, I would love them to take Rubio to inject some life into a dying franchise, that being said Chris Wallace will take Thabeet because he loves Conley even though he has some serious flaws. It was hard watching the Rox/Lakers series watching Kyle Lowry pump in big miinutes

  • swifthammer Posted: May.21 at 8:15 pm
    watching college ball this yr, it bothered me seeing Thabeet getting used by a 6’7 dejuan blair or anyone over 6’9 with a little bit of quickness, and Chris wallace will find a way to screw this up, I hope not as one of the 7 grizz fans left

  • Dacre Posted: May.21 at 9:07 pm
    Myles…I don’t think anyone is going to get after Chase Budinger quite that quickly….
    I know who Myles wants!!!
    Al-Farouq Aminu!!! COME ON DOWN!!!

  • spirow Posted: May.21 at 11:44 pm
    Okay this is a dumb article i’ve waisted time reading. . . First off you gotta stop having this bad image of european players. Brandon Jennings was suppose to be the hands down number 1 pick this year before he went to europe. Now he’s not even top 5. . . It’s obvious Rubio can hold his own. . . And a guy like Oj mayo will benefit from it the most. These are not the old Kobe days where guys are selfish. . . Everyone knows getting points just simply dosn’t cut it nomore. You gotta be a passer, shot blocker, rebounder. . . Thats how the games changed thanks to Lebron, and everyone tries following the Best player. . . He set the standard so be happy that the grizzlies pick ricky, And if you wanna get rid of rudy gay, they should because i Really think he reached his ceiling, he’s over rated because he can dunk. . . Trade your second overall pick and Gay for number 1. . . Griffen! Might be too much but i’ve been studying scouting reports on this guy. . . He’ll be better then stadomire. . . The guy can jump high as lebron, and dewight. . . He’s a freak and has excelled at every level. . . He’ll be a perfect fit for memphis!

  • chintao Posted: May.22 at 1:52 am
    Good thoughts, but you seemed to purposely avoid any references to Gay-Mayo (that must be a synonym for homosexual spooge), instead consistently writing Mayo-Gay. I suppose it was wise, assuming that you only want to be taken seriously….

  • Z Posted: May.22 at 1:53 am
    OKC and Memphis need size. They both need that rim protector. Sacramento and Minny are the two teams that need him and they should do everything they can to trade for him if he is snatched before their turn.

  • chintao Posted: May.22 at 1:58 am
    While I know next to nothing about the kid, Rubio is about to undertake a seismic shift in his life. No matter what anyone says, he has never been tested under the conditions he is about to encounter in the NBA. I could envision a scenario in which he has far less impact than many people believe.

  • al Posted: May.22 at 3:32 am
    Memphis, do whatever you want, but if you pass on Rubio you will regret it forever. I understand it is tough to follow from the US, but what Rubio is doing over here in Europe is absolutely awesome. He is the leader of a top 5 time in the second best league in the world, not only that, he leads the league in steals and assists and he is one of the 2 best PG in the competition (the other being a starter for Argentina National Team, aged 32). Do your choices as you wish, but Rubio is a sure bet, and is something else

  • Hursty Posted: May.22 at 7:55 am
    Chintao- nah, I think it was more because it was position based- Mayo at the 1/2 and Gay at the 2/3.

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  • chintao Posted: May.25 at 4:53 am
    Word, Hursty? I dunno. At some points, it seemed a little forced. Gay-Mayo just rolls of the tongue and trickles down the chin (no no- homo), while Mayo-Gay is much harder to say.

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