Friday, May 22nd, 2009 at 8:00 am  |  161 responses

SLAMonline Mock Draft: Ricky Rubio, No. 3

There will be no mention of “upside.”

by Emry DowningHall

With the third pick in the SLAMonline Mock Draft, the Oklahoma City Thunder select…

Ricky Rubio. If the Oklahoma City Thunder elected to hire Marlo Stanfield as their GM, he would no doubt have declared having two young studs (pause) in his backcourt, “one of them good problems.”

Although I’m willing to admit we penciled in Hasheem Thabeet as our starting center for next season, we’re delighted to have the opportunity to call Ricky Rubio’s name.

Our short list was Rubio, Hasheem Thabeet, James Harden and Jordan Hill. Mr. Thomas and the Memphis Grizzlies took care of the heavy lifting, snatching the shot blocking Tanzanian with the previous selection.

Harden was intriguing as the best two guard prospect in the Draft and a gifted passer in his own right, and Hill’s toughness could really bolster our frontline. I still hadn’t entirely made up my mind on the selection, and decided to take a nap before we went on the clock. During my rest I kept having this nightmare where a red Hawk flies away from what looked like Atlanta with a solid, but far from spectacular forward, passing over two diamonds in the shape of a No. 3 and an No. 8. I woke up scared to death, and ready to draft Rubio.

While the Pete Maravich chatter is pre-mature, was there anyone who came away from this summers Olympics without thinking this kid is going to be a problem?

There are a myriad of challenges for an 18-year-old import, and the transition to the NBA will not always go smoothly for Rubio. Although he’s used to going up against grown men, the NBA is a much more physical brand of basketball than the international game. He’ll need to add weight and strength to survive the grind of an 82 game season, fortunately we’ve already gone through this process with Kevin Durant, and I’d say that’s turned out pretty well thus far.

We plan to exercise a good deal of patience in his development, and will stress that to our fan base. History has proven it can take several years for a point guard to develop into the player he’s going to be. Ultimately it was this fact that allowed Rubio to slip to No. 3 in the Ricky RubioDraft, because the Grizzlies were pleased with the second half production of Mike Conley.

Without question, the most important person on our roster, scratch that, in the state of Oklahoma, is Kevin Durant. I promise you I will scour the earth for the modern equivalent of Luca Brasi, and make certain he signs a long-term deal to remain with the Thunder. That being said, if I can avoid strong arm tactics to keep him in that Thunder No. 35, that’s ideal. Is there a better way to accomplish this then by putting the best scorer in the League on the floor with the youngest, most talented point guard prospect in the NBA?

This selection leaves us with a starting five of Rubio, Russell Westbrook, Durant, Jeff Green and Nenad Krstic, who checks out when you remember he’s backed up by a serviceable Nick Collison as well as the always aesthetically pleasing Robert Swift.

Speaking of Russell Westbrook, isn’t he gonna’ be tight you’re bringing in a top-three pick that plays his position? What are you, one of those dumbs? Westbrook has no problem playing off the ball, and even if he has some reservations about moving to the two slot, those will be aired out after receiving his first look away alley-oop from the shaggy youngster.

Westbrook is a natural scorer, who also has the ability to setup his teammates. This will be a similar situation to his time at UCLA where he often moved off the ball to accommodate Darren Collison. Westbrook’s athleticism, physical strength and toughness are all elements that Rubio will need to improve going forward. Going head to head against Westbrook will elevate the play of both guys. Throw a recovered Shaun Livingston into the mix, and you’re looking at the best young backcourt in the League.

I’d like to close by pointing out that I explained our selection of Rubio without once using the word upside, which I believe puts me in contention for some sort of award or at least a plaque. Screw it, this kid has so much upside Jay Bilas is going to be moving furniture rocking a Ricky Rubio No. 9.

2009 SLAMonline Mock Draft Results
Pick Team Player
1 L.A. Clippers Blake Griffin
2 Memphis Grizzlies Hasheem Thabeet
3 Oklahoma City Thunder Ricky Rubio
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  • Moose Posted: May.22 at 8:25 am
    Ehhhhh….James Harden is my pick, purely because of the fact that I have total confidence in Russell Westbrook.

  • Adam Fleischer Posted: May.22 at 8:33 am
    Rubio is gonna be/already is nice, so passing on him is tough, but there’s no doubt I have questions about the Westbrook thing. The Collison/UCLA comparison is a good one, though, and I think it could work out and make for an exciting young team. One question I’d still have would be about their size in the back court.

  • sixersforlife_85 Posted: May.22 at 8:33 am
    Rubio! Saw this kid play live in Guildford in England. Was impressed even though he was held back a bit by the coach. Can’t wait till he’s in the NBA.

  • Justin Walsh Posted: May.22 at 9:03 am
    I love this pick. Not a difficult one. And Moose, I’d love to have Russ just play combo guard and have Rubio be the pure point. It’d be a perfect fit.

  • al Posted: May.22 at 9:14 am
    At 3, Rubio is a steal

  • Jukai Posted: May.22 at 9:22 am
    First off, “aesthetically pleasing Robert Swift” hahahahahahahahahahha

  • Lang Whitaker Posted: May.22 at 9:35 am
    Thunder fans better hope the real Grizz draft a stiff like the fake Grizz.

  • warr Posted: May.22 at 9:50 am
    rubio averages 8 points 6 or 5 assists in euro league why is everyone promoting this because he can throw an around back pass

  • warr Posted: May.22 at 9:52 am
    u ever seen a foreigner play defense guy u should be in the d-league at best

  • warr Posted: May.22 at 10:00 am
    check his stats eurobasket.com search ricky rubio and brendan jennigs its incredible how we judge folks. he should be judge on production not what he would be like if u create him on nba2k… u have some solid back up points guards in this draft promote them

  • kenny Posted: May.22 at 10:07 am
    nice article emry.. i still think the thunder should go with harden despite sefalosha’s upside

  • Czar Ruke Posted: May.22 at 10:29 am
    Rubio will be in the L three years tops

  • Z Posted: May.22 at 10:35 am
    rubio might not even come right away. and they need to let westbrook run that point. why not derozan? he fills a need and i can see him developing into an elite defender. when there are no sure shots, why not draft for potential?

  • Izzo Posted: May.22 at 10:37 am
    The Thunder better hope the Griz are stupid enough to actually draft Thabeet.

  • al Posted: May.22 at 10:41 am
    have any of you really know how Euroleague works, I mean when do they play, who do they play and so on? It sounds to me you have not the slightest idea Take whoever you want in this draft, Rubio is the best prospect, AND the best player this year

  • warr Posted: May.22 at 10:44 am
    how is rubio the best project? please explain..

  • Hursty Posted: May.22 at 10:44 am
    Westbrook is a shooting guard who has the ability to handle the ball part time, setting up the offence etc. He is NOT a full time point guard, and RIGHT NOW looks more comfortable playing off the ball imo.

  • al Posted: May.22 at 10:44 am
    just another thing, when you mean he has to put some weight on, just think how much heavier Nash is, and he was twice MVP.
    Strenght is good, but it is not the only asset in this sport, thank god

  • warr Posted: May.22 at 10:45 am
    how is rubio the best prospect? please explain..

  • Emry DowningHall Posted: May.22 at 10:46 am
    @Warr: I agree with you on some level but whatever team decides to draft Rubio must be willing to exercise patience. I have confidence in the young fella (obviously) but, in the off chance it doesn’t workout. The team that drafts him can just say they were Rick Roll’d right? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_moia-oVI

  • warr Posted: May.22 at 10:48 am
    he does not even dominate his own league he is an below average guard, CHECK HIS STATS THATS WHAT EVERYONE SAYS BOUT LEBRON THE STATS…

  • al Posted: May.22 at 10:48 am
    No one, ever, in Europe has done what Rubio has done at his age.
    Not Nowitzki, Sabonis, Gasol, Kukoc, of course not Tony Parker.
    I am sure you can think of a couple dozens of players who have had a more impressive high school and college career than this year` players. That was my point, thanks for asking

  • Jukai Posted: May.22 at 10:49 am
    War: Point production, Rubio was not impressive. Rubio was nursing an injured wrist and his minutes were cut, I think he played around 25… in a per 40 minute production, Rubio averaged 11+ assists a game. The next BEST player in the ACB? 9. And this guy was twice Rubio’s age.
    Add to that, Ricky Rubio was the DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR for the ACB. -DPOY- at the age of 18.
    So, tell me, how is he not the best prospect?

  • al Posted: May.22 at 10:50 am
    how you know he doesn’t dominate the league
    Little test:
    Name of the league he plays
    Name 2 best PG in this league
    Name 2 better players in his team Do not go to a website to look for statistics, that won’t help. This game is much more than that

  • al Posted: May.22 at 10:51 am
    Thanks for support Jukai

  • al Posted: May.22 at 10:51 am
    By the way, he led the league in steals and assists, if you can look at the stats

  • Izzo Posted: May.22 at 10:52 am
    Warr:Because,he has been playing pro ball since the age of fourteen,running the point at a top European team for give or take two years.He has been playing in a far more physical style of ball than any of the college prospects have.The competition he has been playing against has been better than 95% of the NCAA and he still manages to lead both the assists and steals category.He would be the best defensive PG in the League right now.He has uncanny ball handling and passing instincts that CAN be improved.He is a tall PG,his offensive game can be massively improved and he’s much quicker than most give him credit for.
    But hey,you’re right.He ain’t much of a dunker,which as we all know equates to basketball potential.

  • warr Posted: May.22 at 10:52 am
    thats a lie his stats are on eurobasket.com search ricky rubio they have all his stats on since the olympics.. dont make me post his stats if the lies continue i will

  • Jukai Posted: May.22 at 10:55 am
    Warr: He played 23 minutes a game in the ACB and 13(!!!!) minutes a game in the Euroleagues.
    Warr, are you looking at his stats in the Euroleague season? Rubio missed more than half the season with wrist surgery and played the entire season unable to bend his wrist. You really should do more research.

  • MeloMan13 Posted: May.22 at 10:55 am
    @Moose. why would they draft Harden if they already have Durant and Green running the 2 and 3? unless u actually want green to play Pf full time

  • warr Posted: May.22 at 10:56 am
    if thats is true why has the not the best BASKETBALL league in the world the nba sign any of those other great point guards… and if so u cant name more than five great point guards he has played againgst on weekly basics in europe

  • al Posted: May.22 at 10:58 am
    HE PLAYS THE ACB LEAGUE, AKA SPANISH LEAGUE.
    EUROLEAGUE is a complement for these teams, you have to understand this.
    Rubio has played 4 competitions this year. ACB, who has 34 games plus playoff.
    Euroleague, which has 10+6 games + playoff but his team did not make it
    Olympics, you know that
    King’s cup – 3 games ACB is the important one for all spanish teams, although, of course they aim to win all. Euroleague for his team was played at the beginning of the season, while he was injured. Could only play some games slowed by his injury. Besides that, he was named best young (under 23) player in Euroleague, second year in a row

  • Jukai Posted: May.22 at 10:58 am
    If Rubio played 40 minutes a game, he would have averaged nearly 11 assists a game. That’s not a lie. Read up on it, draftexpress is a great source on prospects (don’t get all your news at Scout or nbadraft). No one even came close to that.

  • Jukai Posted: May.22 at 11:00 am
    Warr: He ISN’T ALLOWED in the NBA until 19 YEARS OLD you idiot. Christ, please, I’m begging you, RESEARCH A LITTLE BETTER!

  • Izzo Posted: May.22 at 11:00 am
    Recent Ricky Rubio stat line in a semi final against Real Madrid:16-7-6-4-2.
    To answer your question Warr,they have.

  • al Posted: May.22 at 11:00 am
    warr, this is my last post for you, you are so lost in European basketball… i dont mind telling you, but your attitude towards learning is…

  • warr Posted: May.22 at 11:01 am
    omg he said physical european play lol

  • BETCATS Posted: May.22 at 11:05 am
    I disagree. You should have picked James Harden. Harden + Durant + Westbrook + Green + Kristic = playoff team in 1-2 years.

  • Izzo Posted: May.22 at 11:07 am
    In 22.0 minutes a game he is averaging 9pts 3rebounds 6 assists(!) and 2.2 steals(!!).The league leader in the NBA is averaging 2.7 steals playing 38 minutes a game.The second is averaging 2.1 playing 38 minutes.Rubio could be second in steals per game right now with 16 minutes to spare.Also right now he would be 19th in assists in the NBA with 17 minutes to spare.But naw,he totally sux.

  • warr Posted: May.22 at 11:08 am
    u know what u right im just bias point guard is the hardest position in the nba.. and not to mention he is foreign and he is not tony parker have u been to europe have u seen him in play in person no i have tapes of him my brother plays in the the lower league in italy and i going to tell u from experience u going be shocked he is a second class jason williams withiut the tattos and the jumpshot. goodbye

  • Eric Posted: May.22 at 11:09 am
    Jukai, the rule only applys to blacks the white boy will get in.

  • Izzo Posted: May.22 at 11:10 am
    Also,what constitutes an assist in the NBA and Europe are two very different things.Warr,it’s clear that you have never watched European basketball,just base your opinions on tired stereotypes of European players that are all over this place.It’s also abundantly clear that you’d be an underachiever in a remedial class in CuzLuv,Oklahoma.Please,just leave.

  • Jukai Posted: May.22 at 11:17 am
    HE’S GOT TAPES IZZO! TAPES AND TAPES!

  • warr Posted: May.22 at 11:17 am
    i been to eurpe u idiot i have seen him play in person…. the sterotypes are true about europeans. sorry they are soft.. im done about to watch a movie yal will promote an guard that play againgst knowbody than to mention jonny flynn or lawson, curry

  • Izzo Posted: May.22 at 11:18 am
    No you haven’t and no you haven’t.

  • SLAM ONLINE | Posted: May.22 at 11:18 am
    [...] With the 3rd pick… [...]

  • Jukai Posted: May.22 at 11:25 am
    What? Flynn, Lawson and CURRY? Really?
    Jonny Flynn is a short, ball-hogging, shoot first point guard who turns the ball over to the point where you wonder if he remembers what team he plays on. He’s incredibly tough on offense but is a wimp on defense, plays a mile off of dudes, wont touch screens, and is constantly out of position. Lawson is like Flynn lite, size but no wingspan, no defense, and let’s take away the ability to shoot anything outside an uncontested set shot. Not to mention the dude needs some ADD meds, he disappears like a magician in games.
    Curry makes Rubio look like an athletic freak of nature.
    I’m not sure if Rubio will ever live up to his potential to be a star, but I don’t know if any of those other dudes will be starters. This is riduclous.

  • warr Posted: May.22 at 11:32 am
    one last thing its a difference between being injured and hurt… did he have surgery? is euro league equivalent to the nba? so comparing his steals to players in the nba is irrelevant…. basketball all around the world is water down so i understand yall persistence to undermind ncaa point guards….

  • Jukai Posted: May.22 at 11:37 am
    Warr: yes, he did have surgery. Once again, failure in doing your research.

  • richieDBlock Posted: May.22 at 11:38 am
    Granted I only saw Harden play against our Temple Owls and in the tournament, I wasn’t impressed at all. He seems to have good fundamentals but he seems too herky jerky to me. For some reason he reminds me of Julius Hodge, does everything pretty well but doesn’t have top notch athleticism. Rubio would be good for the Thunder if they decide to slide Westbrook over to the 2, but then one of them needs to learn how to shoot. ON a side note doesn’t Rubio look like the kid from the shining all grown up ?

  • warr Posted: May.22 at 11:44 am
    thats why i ask. did u not see the ? mark… and i only mention the injured and hurt situation because someone mention that he was injured the whole season and if u are injured you wont be playing but since he was playing he was just hurt which 99 percent of the players in the nba are hurt

  • warr Posted: May.22 at 11:48 am
    how you know he doesn’t dominate the league
    Little test:
    Name of the league he plays
    Name 2 best PG in this league
    Name 2 better players in his team Do not go to a website to look for statistics, that won’t help. This game is much more than that…. u name them! i dont support him being an lottery pick you do. thats a questions u need to answer

  • MeloMan13 Posted: May.22 at 11:50 am
    GREEN IS NOT A PF

  • Jukai Posted: May.22 at 11:51 am
    Warr: Not as bad as Ricky Rubio. I think he was well enough to play the entire ACB season, but during the Euroleagues, he couldn’t fully move his wrist down or up. That’s a severe limit of mobility.
    I do agree, there is some degree of injury that all players have to fight through, and I think he reached that level during his ACB time. If you’re only judging him via his stats in the Euroleague tournement, where he RUSHED back from intensive wrist surgery to try and help his team through the rest of the season, well, you’d be devistatingly dumb. He played five games, thirteen minutes each. I’m going out on a limb here and saying he wasn’t healthy for that tournement.

  • Z Posted: May.22 at 11:52 am
    I was in Barcelona two weeks ago and I caught FC Barcelona against Bilbao. FCB dominated the game (the only talented guy on Bilbao was Quincy Lewis and half-assed would be too king to describe his effort level). The plays IS soft. David Andersen was having a field day and he’s soft as tissue paper. Orlando will be delighted if Vasquez ever suits up for them, he was the only agressive dude out there and tried to dunk EVERYTHING. Level of play is miles and beyond above NCAA though. Not even close.

  • Izzo Posted: May.22 at 12:01 pm
    I don’t know why I’m bothering but.
    Demond Mallet&Pops Mensa Bonsu
    Javier Rodriguez&Prigioni.
    Of course,you’ve never heard of these players,so they must suck.It’s funny you assume that everyone is as ignorant as you.

  • sixersforlife_85 Posted: May.22 at 12:01 pm
    Warr – I have seen him play live too. Yes he does a lot of Manu flops to get calls but he is as tough as it comes. The coach actually drags him out of games because he wants to play so much. He is a student of the game and works hard every day on said game, which is where the Maravich comparisons SHOULD come. Just hold your tongue until he’s at least played a few games in the NBA. Then maybe you can write him off.

  • warr Posted: May.22 at 12:02 pm
    ok i understand ur point so u see him being drafted off his previous years of basketball? so if thats right… and im reaching on this an high school point guard straight to the nba can be successful? and i dont want to hear about he was playing pro since he was 14 TALENTED kids all over america been playing againgst pros since they were young….(Lance STephenson). anyway he just a kid and i dont agree that he can do it we have to wait until his indivduals workouts for teams and see the outcome because this debate is going know were..u support a player that u have never seen play a player that has not been pushed and u dont know how he will push back .. so u ride with that i wont.. i settle with curry, flynn and lawson at LEAST i know what that cant and can do.

  • warr Posted: May.22 at 12:05 pm
    Demond Mallet&Pops Mensa Bonsu
    Javier Rodriguez&Prigioni… they are all great players that can’t crack an nba rotation so im sorry for being naive.

  • Jukai Posted: May.22 at 12:08 pm
    Izzo: Those aren’t point guards. If Navarro isn’t considered a point there (doesn’t he play the two in the ACB?) then I’d go with Omar Cook or Pablo Prigioni, albeit the later is on the decline. I’d still say Ricky is in the top two though.
    Warr: We HAVE seen him play. I’ve watched multiple games with Rubio, NOT just in the Olympics, because it wouldn’t be right for me to talk about him without watching him play an actual game. Of course, I’m not going to lie like you and say I’ve seen him in Europe, but I’ve seen enough to make at least a basic opinion.
    The question isn’t whether or not Rubio will become a star (I don’t know, I think he’ll at least be slightly better than Calderon) but if he’s worth the 2-3 pick. And the answer is unquestionably YES, this draft class is so weak that it isn’t even a debatable issue. Curry, Flynn, and Lawsome all have backup PG written all over them. Rubio could be a starter right off the bat.

  • Jukai Posted: May.22 at 12:08 pm
    Pops Mensa Bonsu WAS IN THE NBA for chrissakes…

  • Allenp Posted: May.22 at 12:09 pm
    I can’t believe Izzo said Rubio would be the best defensive guard in the NBA right now.
    See, that’s just going too far.

  • warr Posted: May.22 at 12:10 pm
    pistol pete average 40 something a game were are the comparsion.. oh i see it now the hair the passes i been blind all this time…. in the land of the blind the man with one eye is king.

  • Jukai Posted: May.22 at 12:12 pm
    Warr: People only compare him to Pete Maravich because of the flashy passes and moppy hair. Do you even bother to read anything about him, or…?

  • Z Posted: May.22 at 12:12 pm
    Jukai: Navarro absolutely plays the point for FCB.

  • Z Posted: May.22 at 12:13 pm
    Allen: yeah, I caught that too!

  • Jukai Posted: May.22 at 12:14 pm
    Z: Well then Navarro. I don’t know why I thought he played the two.

  • Izzo Posted: May.22 at 12:17 pm
    Okay,this will be my last contribution to this.You are comparing players being drafted from the NCAA and Rubio who is being drafted out of Europe.You claim that Rubio doesn’t play against NBA talent(which is false),but think about how many NBA talents the NCAA draftees are playing against.The vast majority of who the likes of Blake Griffin and Steph Curry played against last year don’t even come close to being NBA talents,worse still if you factor in how many NBA talents they are playing WITH.Rubio is playing with former and future NBA talents,most of whom who played there,were NCAA stand outs.He is also playing against the same.Your arguments make no sense and just goes to show how myopic a view you have of basketball.Rubio has been playing against better competition than all other draftees,he’s playing with better players than 95%.He has also been coached conservatively with a view to developing him more as a player than anything else,unlike the NCAA coaches style of “Throw em out there to attract another one and done”.But you’re right,he’s Europeans,so everyone should assume he’s overrated,soft and trying to sneak his extended family over the border.G’day.

  • warr Posted: May.22 at 12:17 pm
    jUKIA UR RIGHT… DO U HOOP

  • Izzo Posted: May.22 at 12:18 pm
    Allen:Best defensive POINT guard.

  • Jukai Posted: May.22 at 12:19 pm
    Warr: Yes, I do. Are you going to challenge me to a game of one on one than wimp out and say you’re halfway across the country like vonkers?

  • sixersforlife_85 Posted: May.22 at 12:19 pm
    Warr – by your logic you would have taken Emeka Okafor over Dwight Howard. Why? because you know what Emeka can do -he proved it in college. Dwight was unknown, but had tons of potential.

  • Jukai Posted: May.22 at 12:20 pm
    Izzo: erm… better than Rondo, Hinrich, West, Deron…?

  • Izzo Posted: May.22 at 12:22 pm
    Jukai:Both Prigioni and Rodriguez have been running the point from what I’ve seen.Both teams do occasionally start 4 guards,so it’s interchangeable.Also,in Europe,there’s very little distinction between shooting and point guards,if you’r a guard in Europe,you’re expected to be able to run the 1 effectively.

  • Izzo Posted: May.22 at 12:25 pm
    Jukai:I’ll backtrack and say top 3.I think he’ll be an elite defender no matter what but I’m interested to see how his quickness translates.

  • warr Posted: May.22 at 12:37 pm
    im not going to lie i would put okafor at that time but i did see dwight play numerous time he played with josh smith, randolph morris, rondo aau so i would got fired

  • Jukai Posted: May.22 at 12:37 pm
    Izzo: not too sure about that… defensive rule differences from Europe to the NBA means that Rubio will definitely be guarding people differently. I know Rubio loved man-to-man, but I think problems will arise in terms of transitioning.
    I also think Rubio is going to have to mature more physically before he can dominate defensively on the level of the NBA. He’ll get his steals, no doubt about that (court vision and hand = win) but I think he’ll be posted up and burned on more than one occassion. Think Chris Paul defense.

  • warr Posted: May.22 at 12:38 pm
    we can hoop u not know center are u cause im only 6″2 i dont feel like fouling u all day

  • Jukai Posted: May.22 at 12:42 pm
    I’m 6’3 bro, I may look 6’11 but that’s really all presence

  • warr Posted: May.22 at 12:45 pm
    lol… can u hoop or u play basketball its a difference

  • MeloMan13 Posted: May.22 at 12:59 pm
    can we officially terminate warr’s account? dude hasn’t said one sensible comment today

  • Jukai Posted: May.22 at 1:03 pm
    War: I don’t think it makes a difference, you’re what, 14?

  • warr Posted: May.22 at 1:26 pm
    only scoop jackson can make me stop blogging i but i will leave yal alone jukai u a football players thats tries to play basketball how 6″3 with a presence of 6″11 go swing on some monkey bars

  • warr Posted: May.22 at 1:28 pm
    yal to sensitive, relax its just blogging we all wasting time cool out

  • Ben Osborne Posted: May.22 at 1:33 pm
    Nice to see Mr. Fantasy.

  • warr Posted: May.22 at 1:33 pm
    jukai a 6″3 theo ratliff

  • Steve13 Posted: May.22 at 1:39 pm
    I think Rubio will have a definite impact in the NBA. Specially the league nowadays, which is not as defensive and physical as it used to. I believe he wants to be in Sactown or LA for obvious marketing reasons. He would be more marketable there because of the spanish speaking community. Most international players who came over to the NBA these past few years were not necesarely dominating in their own countries. But this kid is special. Long arms quick hands and he is a floor leader. He might not be rookie of the year but if he’s lucky enough to be with the right team he will be an all star within the next few years

  • ciolkstar Posted: May.22 at 1:42 pm
    Jukai, you bashing Jonny Flynn in order to further an argument about Rubio was unneccesary and folish. You said he plays So far off huis man on D, did you forget that Boeheim plays a ZONE defense, and thats how Flynn is supposed to play. he’s undersized and a streaky shooter, but you assesment was WAY off base there. He’ll be a better pro than Lawson.

  • ciolkstar Posted: May.22 at 1:47 pm
    I’m not saying Flynn is better, or will be better, than Rubio but you were still way off base there Jukai. And Rubio is NICE defensively, but he’s not gonna be the best defensive PG in the L, he’s just not.

  • Jukai Posted: May.22 at 1:48 pm
    Warr: What are you, mentally challeneged? I wasn’t talking about my game, I was making a joke about how I appear to people. And I’m absolutely TERRIBLE at Football.
    Ciolkstar: I think he’ll be a better pro than Lawson, and that’s why I said Lawson was “Flynn lite.” Lawson has all the flaws that Flynn has but is less tough. That being said, just because you’re in a zone, doesn’t mean you have to give the dude two feet to shoot a J. I know you’re a big fan of Flynn, Ciolkstar, but I have my doubts about the dude as a pro. Not saying he wont make it in the league, but I wonder how much he’ll make it.

  • Jukai Posted: May.22 at 1:50 pm
    Ciolkstar: Rubio will never be DPOY in the NBA, it’s too much of a physical game. That being said, if you’re the DPOY of the ACB, it probably means you can at least be able to be an above average defender going straight into the NBA.

  • ciolkstar Posted: May.22 at 1:55 pm
    I think Rubio will probably be the best PG in the draft, but Jonny boy is no punk and on a good team, I could see him doing damamge right away. I’m really hoping the Hawks take Flynn (as I’ve seen in some mocks) if he lasts that long. I’m pretty much certain that he’ll have a long successful career, he’s fast and super athletic, a creative passer and natural PG and is short, but built solidly and has A TON of heart. I’m obviously a big fan, so MAYBE I’m overrating him a bit, but I think I have a decent eye for players, and he looks like a good one to me.

  • warr Posted: May.22 at 2:00 pm
    i believe we all disturbed some what… and u say u 6″3 so u must be like an westbrook type of player or u 6″3 theo ratliff. see i love basketball not its players.. u seem like a fan

  • warr Posted: May.22 at 2:01 pm
    if that was an joke i miss it.. oh i just caught it and i said to someone and they frown at me

  • Jukai Posted: May.22 at 2:16 pm
    Warr: For someone who claims he “loves basketball” and isn’t just a fan, you sure like name calling NBA players to compare things, which sounds like a fan to me.

  • warr Posted: May.22 at 2:31 pm
    just observation…. I have been coming to this site for about year now but i never blog until recently. I love SLAM been reading those magazines since “96″(i miss Scoop) and i read what bloggers say and it does not make sense to ME not you ME. the odds of him being succesful are very slim but the pro rubio fans and the media dont see it like that i just look at the facts and then i make an asssesment im not going say he will be great because Fran Frascilla say’s so i watch the game the same way he do

  • James the balla Posted: May.22 at 2:36 pm
    Roobio is goong to b betta deen mikael jodan!!11!1

  • Jukai Posted: May.22 at 2:38 pm
    Warr: Why are the odds of him being successful slim?

  • Krishan Posted: May.22 at 2:42 pm
    I don’t know about you guys, but warr is straight up killin me right now! It’s hilarious how he gets you all riled up. Warr you are now my favorite commenter of all time.

  • Jukai Posted: May.22 at 2:44 pm
    I guess the lower end of the gene pool flocks together?

  • Izzo Posted: May.22 at 2:45 pm
    Isn’t he already successfully slim?

  • Jukai Posted: May.22 at 2:49 pm
    Izzo: Zing?

  • warr Posted: May.22 at 2:49 pm
    1. he cant shoot 2.there are not that many point guards from europe that start on basketball teams further the matter successful ( calderon ,parker exception)
    3. he is going to bad team more than likely( parker went to an establish team, calderon came off the bench so he work his way up. your projection for rubio does state you say he will start)
    4.he wont be comfort by the refs in the nba so calls wont go his way as they do overseas

  • warr Posted: May.22 at 2:51 pm
    he’s not successful in the nba that takes time it took parker a while he is not as athletic as parker and he dont shoot like calderon

  • ciolkstar Posted: May.22 at 2:54 pm
    …but he does already speak better English than warr…

  • Izzo Posted: May.22 at 2:54 pm
    Kobe did good enough.For a European.

  • breeze Posted: May.22 at 2:56 pm
    i think rubio will be a solid point gaurd …maybe not steve nash but better than calderon…after he adjust taht may take 2 years..

  • Jukai Posted: May.22 at 2:56 pm
    1) Yes, he can’t shoot. At least, not off the dribble. This is your one valid point. Congratulations. Lemme fish out my gold star for you.
    2) Navarro and Udrich would like a word with you, but I digress, this statement doesn’t make sense to me… if Rubio is, according to all his teammates, just about as good as Calderon while being nine years Rubio’s senior… Shouldn’t Rubio have a spot in the NBA already?
    3) Him being on a bad team DRASTICALLY increases his chances of starting and developing even faster, as long as he’s not the only good player on that team. OKC and Sacremento will be tremendously helpful for Rubio’s career, as he’ll become the starting point guard right off the bat (Westbrook will slide to the two, Beno will pack his bags).
    4) You’re vastly mistaken here. OJ Mayo and Derrick Rose are already getting superstar calls. Rubio has a HUGE following already, and will DEFINITELY get superstar calls right off the bat.

  • warr Posted: May.22 at 2:57 pm
    i dont want you feel like im bashing him he is ok but as the 3 pick i would not take that chance the draft is weak but that does mean you can roll the dice, knicks did that last year and look what that got them i dont even know his name i just remember everybody hoopin and hollering

  • breeze Posted: May.22 at 2:58 pm
    he will start where he goes if its the kings…i hate memphis

  • breeze Posted: May.22 at 2:59 pm
    wwe should have raw thier all season

  • Jukai Posted: May.22 at 3:00 pm
    Do I think Rubio will be an all-star first year? No, he probably wont even be rookie of the year (if it was any other draft year, I’d say definitely. But this one is pretty weak).
    Will Rubio make at least the SECOND all-rookie team? Definitely.

  • Jukai Posted: May.22 at 3:01 pm
    War, outside of Thabeet and Griffin, EVERYONE is a project and a possible failure in this draft. Harden is close to a sure shot. Jennings, DeRozan, Hill, Evans, they can ALL FAIL pretty spectacuarly.

  • breeze Posted: May.22 at 3:04 pm
    i think griffin is a project…why are ya giving darvin ham junior so much hype …i feel like beasley had more talent …and hes not all that..@jukai please elaborate..

  • warr Posted: May.22 at 3:05 pm
    he should not get a spot in the nba because his teammates vouch for him listen to unc teammates they believe in lawson so that is not valid… i agree with number 3 to some extent.. but okc needs size more than they need a point guard i wish they would got #1 pick.. mayo and rose earn that on the courts and rose did not get superstar call in the playoffs

  • Izzo Posted: May.22 at 3:05 pm
    Thabeet isn’t a project?

  • breeze Posted: May.22 at 3:07 pm
    he is too

  • James the balla Posted: May.22 at 3:08 pm
    Jukaia, thabeet is goong to b betta denn Mutonb0. Roobio betta denn Makeal Jooodan. Me beta deen yoou!

  • breeze Posted: May.22 at 3:08 pm
    @ james that comment was just fool

  • James the balla Posted: May.22 at 3:12 pm
    Okey at leest rubioo wil be beta deen Isaya tomass. I weell tel u noww.

  • James the balla Posted: May.22 at 3:14 pm
    imm betta den Jukai aaaat commmmennteeengggg!!!!111

  • Jukai Posted: May.22 at 3:16 pm
    Breeze: How much Griffin will develop is a very big question mark. A “project” to me means the possibility of being a bust. I don’t think that is possible with Griffin.
    Warr: We’re not talking about UNC here. We’re taking about professionals saying he’s as good as Calderon. So far you disagree with me, Euroleague players, and the media. You’re just that much smarter than us, huh?
    The entire Chicago v Boston series was f’d up, Boston just got about every call in a game that you could get. That’s a bad example of Rose not getting star calls.
    I agree that OKC needs size, but after Thabeet, the next rebounding bigman is BJ Mullens. And that’s not good at all.
    Izzo: Thabeet isn’t a project to me because I feel that, even though offensively he may be a bust, he will be able to contribute defensively right off the bat. He’s 7’3 with nimble hands and decent foot speed. Obviously no actualy basketball skill, but he’ll do exactly what Memphis wants him to do: pull down boards, block a shot, and absolutely nothing else.
    James the balla: Overdosing on those paint chips you like to eat?

  • warr Posted: May.22 at 3:18 pm
    is he better than rondo right now, today?

  • Jukai Posted: May.22 at 3:18 pm
    Warr: Nope.

  • warr Posted: May.22 at 3:19 pm
    us! you media jukai?

  • warr Posted: May.22 at 3:20 pm
    Mike conley…

  • warr Posted: May.22 at 3:28 pm
    he better than d.j augustine or mario chalmers? im trying to figure if he would came out last year were he would be.

  • James the balla Posted: May.22 at 3:29 pm
    Ahahahaaaa me betta den Jukai!!!

  • nbk Posted: May.22 at 3:35 pm
    He would have been drafted around 4-6 more than likely warr. OJ was still considered more of a surefire success and Westbrook was a question mark, more then likely he would have gone right round there.

  • cb 34 Posted: May.22 at 3:39 pm
    I think rubio will have a great rookie year and in year 2 or 3 , he will be better than chalmers and augustine. Sad fact is if he ends up with memphis or oklahoma he might not even go. It’s gonna cost him a couple of million to get to the nba but he’s not going to the grizz. Navarro already told him how bad it was. He ain’t going to okc either. He’s gotta be comfortable with the city or it’s a no-go.I bet he’ll pull a francis and there will be a trade.

  • breeze Posted: May.22 at 3:47 pm
    dont throw augustine under the bus just yet….but rubio been a pro for awile…i think strenghth will be a question..
    @ jukai i see what you mean but thabeet might be a bust just tall like this year is so weak…

  • warr Posted: May.22 at 3:50 pm
    coilkstar did not realize we were in speech class..

  • cb 34 Posted: May.22 at 3:53 pm
    Yeah for most europeans strength is always an issue but it’s something he can work on. Remember how scrawny turk was with the kings and now he’s solid. We haven’t seen court vision and awareness like this since kidd and arguably white chocolate too.

  • breeze Posted: May.22 at 4:04 pm
    i agree

  • warr's mom Posted: May.22 at 4:10 pm
    Hi warr, what a funny little dumbo you are! I really regret giving birth to a moron like you, Love you!

  • Rajon Rondo Posted: May.22 at 4:11 pm
    I did not play on the same AAU team as Dwight. Ever.
    Where did you get that info from, warr?
    Claiming that you have seen us play together and all.

  • Jonny Flynn Posted: May.22 at 4:15 pm
    I ish betta than da spaneesh boi!

  • The Handsome Baller Posted: May.22 at 4:20 pm
    I think the most important thing is who is the best fit to go along with there talented players? There studs are Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook, and Jeff Green. Again, my question is who would compliment these players? It would be nice to see Thabeet drop to them, but I understand that in this mock draft he already has gone to the Grizzlies. I really don’t think they need a guard at this point. I actually would like to see those 3 players Durant, Westbrook, and Green be the 1,2, and 3. This would be a very tall lineup. So I think they need a big man and I’m not a huge fan of Jordan Hill the next best big man in the Draft at this point, so where do I go as far as the mock draft at this point? Trade, trade, trade!!! I heard the other day a trade to the Clippers for the #1 spot and get Griffin, would take Westbrook or Green and there 3rd pick or even Westbrook and Green. I really think they need to keep these players and hope for Thabeet to fall to 3 and if not trade Westbrook and 3rd pick for Griffin. Than you have Durant, Green, and Griffin at the 2,3, and 4. Or trade the 3rd pick and move down and grab a player like Jrue Holiday to play along with this talented group.

  • Hersey Posted: May.22 at 5:18 pm
    This pick has trade written all over it. This draft is guad heavy and OKC doesn’t need a guard. Methinks someone is gonna trade for Rubio. I’m thinking he’s gonna end up in Sac or NY. As for his stats not being very impressive, Euro basketball is stingy with assist stats. Doesn’t matter, dude can play. I watch the gold medal game when I have hoop withdrawal and he handled himself well against world class point guards no less.

  • Tarzan Cooper Posted: May.22 at 5:37 pm
    EMRY DOWNINGHALL??!!!!!!!???!!! WHERE IN THE FLYING FCUK HAVE YOU BEEN??? YOU WERE FN AWOL DOWN THE STRETCH OF THE SEASON. WTF?!!!

  • Jukai Posted: May.22 at 9:32 pm
    War: Yes, he’s better than DJ and Chalmers!

  • Hursty Posted: May.22 at 10:18 pm
    That whole arguement/conversation was wack.

  • davidR Posted: May.22 at 10:32 pm
    emry downinghall sighting!

  • Quail Posted: May.22 at 10:32 pm
    can’t we all just get along?

  • Quail Posted: May.22 at 10:35 pm
    and by the way Warr, Rondo did not play on that AAU team. it was Josh Smith, Randolph Morris and Dwight Howard. The Atlanta Celtics. considering i’ve followed Kentucky basketball for a long time now (Morris and Rondo both went to UK and Josh Smith was considering it before he went straight to the pro’s) i know wut i’m talking about.

  • AlbertBarr Posted: May.23 at 2:37 am
    I am ready for Tvzi’s pick…King’s are sad that Rubio is gone already.

  • DruWil Posted: May.23 at 4:56 am
    Ricky is gonna be a superstar.. I guaran-damn-tees it..

  • Josh D Posted: May.23 at 6:56 am
    Rubio will go at 2…
    So long as the stuff about him giving Mamphis the cold shoulder aren’t true

  • Jonny Flynn Posted: May.23 at 2:51 pm
    warr is a loser!

  • Jonny Flynn Posted: May.23 at 3:01 pm
    Hey warr, where are you and your stupid comments?

  • Dacre Posted: May.25 at 2:51 am
    number 4 number 4 number 4! Jordan Hill or Brandon Jennings!?!?!

  • chintao Posted: May.25 at 5:36 am
    @ Jukai ==> Flynn played 37.3 minutes per game last year, and had the ball in his hands almost the whole time. Nevertheless, his assist-to-turnover ratio was nearly 2/1. He’s young and, by most accounts, intelligent. While slightly undersized (PGs are not usually so much bigger than 6’0″), I believe he can be a serious pro. Intensity counts for more than people might think at the top level. For that reason, I do not think that Rubio is a lock to outshine Flynn in the NBA.

  • [...] SLAM’s mock draft: “Harden was intriguing as the best two guard prospect in the Draft and a gifted passer in his own right, and Hill’s toughness could really bolster our frontline. I still hadn’t entirely made up my mind on the selection, and decided to take a nap before we went on the clock. During my rest I kept having this nightmare where a red Hawk flies away from what looked like Atlanta with a solid, but far from spectacular forward, passing over two diamonds in the shape of a No. 3 and an No. 8. I woke up scared to death, and ready to draft Rubio.” [...]

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    Question: Rubio states he doesn’t want to play for the Grizzlies, and isn’t showing up to any NBA draft workouts…why is anyone letting this fly???? Dude is actin like he is owed something.

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