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Monday, June 29th, 2009 at 3:28 pm  |  110 responses

Fall of the (Yao) Ming Dynasty

Yao-za!

by Ryne Nelson

Exactly how avid are Houston’s fans? Take a quick look at their forums when big news hits. Hot topics finish with more pages than the collected works of John Updike. It’s impossible to read all the reactions, but for something like this, you know from the start…

After re-aggravating a hairline fracture on the top of his left foot in Game 3 against the Lakers, Yao has rested the injury. But a bone scan last week revealed the bad news — the foot was not healing after two months of immobilization.

Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo! Sports sees that bad news and dishes out worse:

For now, the Rockets have privately told league peers it could be a full season before Yao might be able to return to basketball. Multiple league executives, officials close to Yao and two doctors with knowledge of the diagnoses are describing a troubling, re-fracture of his navicular bone. Three pins were inserted a year ago, but the foot cracked in the playoffs and isn’t healing.

“It sounds like he’s missing most of next season, if not the entire 82 games,” one league executive who has had recent discussions with the Houston front office told Yahoo! Sports. “That’s all that [the Rockets] will concede quietly, but they know it’s probably much worse.”

The fact of the matter is Yao’s been treated like a commodity for most of his athletic career. Every summer, China plays Yao in various tournaments including the Olympics and the Asia Games.

In fact, it’s amazing Yao’s 7-6, 320-pound frame has held up this long, and his body has not succumbed to the usual drawbacks we’ve seen time and time again in abnormally tall players. But the signs have become all too clear. Yao’s early exit after Game 3 of the Western Conference semis marked his third consecutive season ending with a fractured bone.

The Rockets say a new course of action will be recommended after he sees three more specialists this week. But odds are these doctors will give the same prescription: inaction… for a very long time.

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  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Damn Yao.

  • http://dsfkl.com Jukai

    Damn…. damn… =/

  • max

    As much as I like yao, sometimes I think the rockets would be better off without him. How are you supposed to build a championship team around a player (Im guessing the rockets would like one), when the likelyhood of that player finishing the season healthy is so low

  • Tyrone Shoelaces

    wow. I genuinely feel sorry for Rockets fans, this is terrible news for the franchise and Yao. With that being said, it seems like an early Yao retirement is almost inevitable, which would be a damn shame.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Blinguo

    Yeah, that’s a “DAMN!” if there ever was one, but don’t damn Yao. I know what you meant, but for the literal types. Last SLAM Yao’s in the locker room feet propped up, casted but he’s still smiling while doing some button pressing on his smart phone. You think things will be fine by the start of the season rolling around, even if its a few months later and begin a January gel to playoff push, now its tragedy in H-Town.

  • http://www.commuto.com Stephen Arbib

    As I feared after the last injury, Yaos career is done. What a shame.

  • max

    *likelihood

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Blinguo

    I knew Yao def. has to be in the upcoming SLAM 15th anniversary list of influential players this latest SLAM generation, but I definitely didn’t think it would be as Grant Hill the Lost part 2. But hey, Grant came all the way back. Even played all 82. Then a Yao Welcome back, imagine that cover?

  • http://slamonline.com/ Ryne Nelson

    He’ll play again. He walked off the court on his own power after game 3. And he had 19 and 14.

  • http://ballislife.com Moose

    Sorry, Yao. You, as well as all Rockets fans, don’t deserve this.

  • Jacob

    damn, hope Yao can eventually come back from this

  • riggs

    Damn and i used to get on yao for being soft before, but that was from my being ignorant on how many games he plays for china as well….i hope he gets better.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Blinguo

    I had some doubts too, I put up over there:
    http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2009/06/beef-curry-vs-hamilton/
    But the sources didn’t want to be revealed, or are they just nonexistent? Can those sources be revealed after Houston’s camp issues any official word on it, good news or bad?

  • http://www.laumol.nl/weblog Laumol

    Not a Rockets fan but best of luck to Yao and Houston. You still got a good team but the tall Chinese does make a difference.

  • vic21

    Just to make this really ironic T-Mac isn’t going to miss a single game this season

  • http://www.slamonline.com wayno

    That sucks for Houston fans and REALLY sucks for Yao. Get better soon big fella!

  • http://lastknickstanding.blogspot.com Bryan

    I really feel bad for this guy. I’m not a fan of the rockets or anything but he actually comes off as a genuinely good person and it sucks when bad things happen to good people.

  • http://www.hoopsmanifesto.blogspot.com Jeff Fox

    I wrote a couple of months ago that the Rockets should do all they can to get rid of TMac and Yao. As good as those guys can be, and as good people as they are, they can’t be relied upon to be there when you need them.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    ryne, i’m not so sure he will, or that he should…this could possibly be career ending for him….at least now fans can understand why Houston went after rubio like a rabid dog, why we were willing to give up Battier after he was (almost) untouchable, and why we bought 3 draft picks who don’t really play the halfcourt game….time to rebuild

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    Had Yao been treated like a commodity, he might still be healthy. Instead, his treatment—both at the hands of the Chinese national team and the Rockets—has bordered on abuse. Hope everyone’s happy.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    I was skeptic at first but I’m starting to buy into the theory that unusually tall bigs (7’3 and up) ALWAYS suffer from chronic injuries. It’s like the body can’t hold up all that banging and jumping with that frame. Mureson, Bol, Smits, Eaton, Sampson, even Z, now Yao…

  • http://www.realcavsfans.com Anton

    EAT THE LEG

  • http://dsfkl.com Jukai

    Holy sh*t Anton!

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Aww man… I’m a huge Rockets/Yao fan. Best of luck to you Yao and get well soon big fella. He could have been one of the best centers to play the game, with his size and his skill set. Hopefully he can recover.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    The thing is, I don’t think this injury is what its blown up to be, or at least I hope it isn’t. Do we know who this “league executive” is? Didn’t the Rockets personnel OFFICIALLY say he’d be back for next season? It was only a hairline fracture and he’s got the entire summer to rest. I really hope this reporter was just exaggerating the facts for a good story.
    Regardless, if Yao is back for next season the Rockets have to seriously limit his minutes and/or games played. They need to find him a reliable backup FAST.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    Anton is a one-liner machine.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Not to mention Yao walked his way off the court.
    I think if his foot heals up, he’ll still be able to retain his high level of play. He was never particularly quick, but he’s got great footwork and a smooth touch around the rim.
    Anyways, that’s all a discussion for later right now.
    Right now, get healthy Yao: Zhu yi shen ti. Jia you!!!!!!!!

  • http://dsfkl.com Jukai

    One of the reasons I come to SLAM, outside of all the great breaking news stories and interesting blogs, is Anton. For real.

  • Fredo

    Part of the problem is that Yao will never get a full summer of rest. Even if he’s out all of next season, the Chinese sports authorities will demand he suit up and go play in whatever tournament comes up next — the Asia Games, the Pan-Pacific Games, the Winter Olympics.

    The Rockets would be served in seeking a backup that could take over as needed. They had that in Mutombo. They don’t now.

  • Clark Kent

    As usual, Russ nails it.

  • niQ

    this is definitely sad news. GG.

  • http://www.another48minutes.blogspot.com Gerard Himself

    I agree with Russ. One has to wonder if Yao just had every summer off instead of playing ball 12 months a year (well, almost), would’ve he been more healthy because of it?

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Blinguo

    But Anton used that same line in the previous Yao injury news, and its from a commercial, a T-Mobile every timeout commercial! So it worked better last time when it wasn’t reported to be as serious! I call shenanigans, or at least call ANTON a zombie, and that makes you borderline necrophiliacs if you love ANTON. (BOOM) POW (Surprise)! But now that I’ve sufficiently broken the mood if you’ve read this far, he’s not the only one liner dynamo SLAM online commenters have you know. neorin, DocFunk back when, et all.

  • http://www.realcavsfans.com Anton

    Jukai, I wish I knew how to quit you.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    @ Fredo: Don’t be ridiculous. “Chinese sports authorities” don’t force Yao to play, especially as he gets older. Yao is a genuinely patriotic dude who wants to play for his country.

  • http://www.another48minutes.blogspot.com Gerard Himself

    I agree with Russ. One has to wonder if Yao just had every summer off, how healthy he could have been now.

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  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Blinguo

    The Hangover 2: Anton x Jukai Boogaloo. Gangsta Ent. Omar will need to come out of hiding/retirement to review this summer popcorn flick.

  • Sparker

    this is why walton’s career was cut short. and also why kareem insisted on jogging down the court on many nights. he had the guts to say “screw you, i’m doing what’s best for my body”

  • Sparker

    and since my comments seem to be getting through all of a sudden, i have to say that i’ve lost at least fifty percent of what i’ve tried to post lately, and that it’s really a bummer

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Blinguo

    And although this might be more of news for the Links, its being reported that the new Transformers 2, is certifiably not gangsta. But I’d still read Omar’s take on it. You’d know up front whether Omar would blank Megan Fox.

  • http://www2.gsb.columbia.edu/faculty/jstiglitz/ NICK KALATHES

    many years ago (the year before Yao came to the U.S i think…) a greek journalist-doctor with expertise on track&field (and the “staff” that athetes use there on the regular) said that the chinese are about to export to the states an “experiment” that they cannot quite handle medically in the same way that another country exported 10 years before them the other “big” (7-3′) experiment (Sabonis) when it had started to break down. He had many details on the case and it seemed strange since Yao wasn’t worldwide famous back then (furthermore for a track&field journalist in Greece…). At the same time the guy was talking about B*lco when most of us thought that this was the name of an aftershave….hope he is wrong this time,i really like Yao, he is the best big man in the world after Gasol at the moment…

  • http://www2.gsb.columbia.edu/faculty/jstiglitz/ NICK KALATHES

    by the way…:Novitski(and Stoyakovic,and Gasol, and many others) has been playing every summer much more games for more years than Yao for his national team.

  • http://http//www.youtube.com The Promise

    Sucks for Houston. They may not make the playoffs without him.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Blinguo

    But is Yao’s China Natl. team anywhere close in skill level or even players total/depth to compete at that level every year? No. He’s always the best player by far, sorry Batteer(sp), Yi, Yue, & Zhu Zhu Wang (plays well outside of Olympic games only in those CBA regular season games and he peaked for a very short time). Gasol broke his foot as well for his Natl. team before a FIBA(?) final game and got more time to heal until the next regular season. So he does more work, more minutes with no real backup, more mileage and fatigue.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    Russ, i hope you’re not serious, although playing so much sure didn’t help, yao’s healing issues aren’t caused by overactivity. He’s got issues with bones breaking and then with the bone healing, even if he sits out more than enough time to let it heal. Remember he broke his leg before he even came to the NBA.

  • http://www2.gsb.columbia.edu/faculty/jstiglitz/ NICK KALATHES

    Blinguo…:Gasol doesn’t have the importance that Yao has for his national team(not even close) BUT Dirk is even more important to Germany than Yao is for his national…this was clearly demonstrated (once again)at the Olympics.

  • http://www2.gsb.columbia.edu/faculty/jstiglitz/ NICK KALATHES

    worst thing is that we will have to live with Yi taking one all-star spot from now on….(1.3 billion clients my friends…)

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Blinguo

    Importance is one way to measure sure that I brought up, but please consider Yao is 310+ lbs also – convert to Kg as necessary. That’s +50 over Gasol and more over Dirk. Again, bigger frame, bigger man. I think Nowitzki is also done with his national team commitment too? Even if China is not “slave driving” Yao for lack of a better term, it seems that way to outside view looking in. Yao did have a pin surgery implant instead of fully healing last time also? Its not one real answer, but healing time off from basketball is important. Bill Russell recently said about as much to Dwight Howard in the Finals interviews. To take at least 1 month off, don’t touch a basketball/think about it.

  • http://slamonline.com Brad Long

    When I was interviewing Kyle Lowry this weekend I asked him about Yao’s injury situation and he said that the team really wasn’t worried too much about it and 4 months would be plenty of time to heal and be ready for the regular season. But you could tell by the look in his eyes that he didn’t believe the words that were coming out of his mouth either.

  • TADOne

    RV: Sorry, but Russ has a legit point. You have to admit that the Chinese Nat’l Team rushed Yao back so that they had at least a slim chance of competing for a medal while the games were in China. The Rockets should have had a more reliable backup other than Dikembe so that Yao didn’t get wore down in the regular season.

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    If you’re as big as Yao is, you’re only going to be able to play a certain number of games in your career. More or less all of NBA history has borne this out. The prudent thing to do would have been to either allow him to take summers off, or keep him out of the NBA entirely. This is what happens when you try and have it both ways. Yao may have broken down eventually anyway, but expecting him to play constantly seems to have hastened the process.

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    And, for the record, I blame the Rockets as much as the powers-that-be of Chinese basketball.

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    And, for the record, the Rockets are equally at fault, IMO. They knew what they were getting into when they drafted him.

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    Sorry for the duplicate comments.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Nick Kalathes, please stop talking nonsense. We all know Yao is better than Gasol. He just needs to stay healthy.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Granted, they play different positions, and this is no place for this discussion now.

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    Oh man. What a bummer, just when the Rockets were getting it together.

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    Good point by Russ – they’re both at fault. What now though, I wonder? Between his national team and the Rockets, something’s got to give if they both don’t want his career to end prematurely a few seasons from now, resulting in the loss of their prized big man. What about giving him the Shaq treatment, letting him take games off here and there, so to speak?

  • http://www2.gsb.columbia.edu/faculty/jstiglitz/ NICK KALATHES

    Yao HAD to pay for China (for obvious reasons) and also he HAD to play in the NBA(first, to make a lot of money in order to cover the future problems that a body that big is normal to have and second, to be near the best doctors in the world that -surprise,surpise!!!, need a lot of money) . To think that he had a choise is naive in my opinion…same thing happened with M.Jackson: he had no choise but end the way he ended (any average human being-brain would have taken the same path after lIving the life that he lived by the time he was 4 years old. Almost the same happened with Motsart and Motsart was a REAL genious).

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Blinguo

    I sent in a link to Ryne found on Yahoo’s Yao player page latest updates, that responds to the Adrian W. Column conjectures based on non-info and speculating opinion as well as a no comment call to Houston team offices/press. Actual doctor quotes, some actual options that Z. Ilguaskas went through for example and other clearing up actual info. I can post in here too if anyone hasn’t seen but I’ll post this first to avoid a wait on allowing the comment thru.

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    And what now for the Rockets? Tank the season, give guys like Aaron Brooks and the young’uns lots of playing time and hopefully land a Tim Duncan?

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Blinguo

    http://www.beaumontenterprise.com/news/local/rockets__yao_could_miss_entire_season_with_foot_injury.html

    One doctor opinion so far, but still good info to look over if you want more news right now.
    Maybe should have used tinyurl for that link. We understand N-K. Its not his fault, nor do we have to blame any one group to make them at fault. He never complained and understood how it was going to work. Nobody said he had a choice. CTRL F this page until your post and mine. You said choice 1st so none of us are being naive.

  • http://www2.gsb.columbia.edu/faculty/jstiglitz/ NICK KALATHES

    @Teddy….:and of course “Super Guffy” (D.Howard) is better than both of them !!!! by the way: whenever you “talk” to me i feel blessed….

  • http://slamonline.com B. Long

    ^Hell no. Yes, Yao can’t be replaced, but the Rockets are crazy at every other position and they will adjust their style of play more to the way Adleman ran his offense in Sac-Town. Don’t be suprised if they’re one of the top 5 scoring teams next year and fighting for mid-level playoff seeding, even without Yao.

  • http://www2.gsb.columbia.edu/faculty/jstiglitz/ NICK KALATHES

    SUPER GOOFY!!!!

  • http://slamonline.com B. Long

    ^That was for Joel.

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    Jonathan Feigen wrote a story for the Chronicle that mostly confirmed the premise of Adrian’s column. Lede: “Rockets center Yao Ming’s left foot injury could be severe enough to be season ending or even career-threatening depending on the success of potential treatments chosen, Rockets team physician Tom Clanton said Monday.”

  • http://slamonline.com B. Long

    ^Crazy deep.

  • http://www2.gsb.columbia.edu/faculty/jstiglitz/ NICK KALATHES

    B.Long….:Houston ain’t making the playoffs without Yao.

  • http://www2.gsb.columbia.edu/faculty/jstiglitz/ NICK KALATHES

    @B.Long…:no YAO, no playoffs.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Blinguo

    Yao’s super salary won’t get him the one thing he’d actually need as a miracle cure, natural as all world can get too. TIME (Off, or time machine).
    Dwight’s a Space Jam monster, not a Goof Troop movie character. You can’t pay a doctor’s salary a hundred times over and cure your broken bones in record time or anything. Those infamous steroids kill.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Blinguo

    Yeah, I didn’t mean to diss A.Woj or anything crazy, he’s been through that this past year already. Thanks for posting the names behind the work too Russ, my link is in limbo also didn’t post the writer name(follow link and you see that header you posted w name) but at least we hear names finally rather than unknown/unnamed source GM with other team worrysome over Yao future. I understand continuing his almost daily opinion blogs, some heavy on links and quotes with names and sources behind them and yahoo sports/NBA getting clicks today.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Blinguo

    There’s both a B.Long and Brad Long now? I’m not going to come to grips with that real quick, especially in what’s always going on with names, just like my last post with no links is still awaiting moderation allow. And in both I basically concede points, say thanks and continue the conversation with N K and Russ there if even unofficially. Post Limit maybe? I’m not posting the same thing each time though.

  • http://www.clutchfans.net nick

    ouch. this hurts. Rockets will still make the playoffs next year, but still ouch.

  • sko!

    Now I’m hoping Cleveland swings a Shaq for Mac+ Artest sign and trade, then picks up Villanueva or Lee.
    Mostly I still somehow feel like Bron having Shaq is kind of like cheating, relative to the Jordan ‘hero’s journey’ But hey, maybe Shaq is the Chief

  • http://www.realcavsfans.com Anton

    ^^Terrible Mac/Artest trade scenario. But if there are any Cavs fans lurking, it’s being reported that the Bucks are not going to extend Charlie V a qualifying offer, making him an unrestricted free agent. Charlie has Tweeted his support to play in Cleveland and Cavs insiders are saying the move is likely (using the MLE).
    Glory. Prepare for it.

  • that dude

    Cosign Russ. However I have to blame the Chinese Authorities more so than the Rockets. If the government in China asks you to do something, you don’t say no. That’s just the way it is. If they enough or cared about Yao at all, they would have let him take a break and realise that yao’s success in the NBA would do much more for basketball in China than beating on the Phillipines in the Pan Asia games.

  • that dude

    sorry that should have read “if they were smart enough or cared about Yao at all”

  • http://slamonline.com Brad Long

    B. Long is dead. There is only Brad Long now. I’m retiring that moniker. The only reason why some posts still show it is because I’ve been posting from my laptop and my desktop at work and I haven’t updated my desktop at work yet. I still think the Rockets without Yao can make the playoffs. And I wouldn’t be suprised if they won a series either.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    Tad, the problem with his current injury is that it didn’t heal at all, and it was suppose to, almost a sure thing it would, yet it didnt, that’s a problem in it’s own and has nothing to do with overplaying. Also, take into consideration that 1 of yao’s injuries was caused by a bad fall, nothing to do with overplaying, fatigue, etc. This last one also was suppose to be a sudden fracture, from a bad twist of the foot, rather than a wear and tear fracture. I think a bigger issue is the way Yao is built, he’s bottom heavy. None of the other giants of the NBA had a base as heavy and wide as his, hell, few players of average height are rarely built that way also. When your upper body is only 100 lbs of your 310 you’re going to land very very heavy and your legs will feel a lot of force in a short period of time.

  • RedRum

    Yao kinda brought that to himself… He was not following his rehabilitation and was doing some chinese therapy stuff… I guess mister Miyagi’s magic powder was not that much of treatment…

  • rav

    “Don’t be ridiculous. “Chinese sports authorities” don’t force Yao to play, especially as he gets older”

    they more or less do, and when they dont they give him no end of grief (remember the stick they gave him a few summers ago for missing a meaningless minicamp in order for a special olympics function) and basically treat him like a cash cow (although the rockets should share some blame, IMO the chinese authorities should take most of the blame for playing him in the summer when he needs the rest so that he can perform for his employers) and i do really feel for yao as he seems like one of the good guys in the league

  • rav

    and if the knicks are smart they should make a cheeky offer for t-mac involving eddy curry and some cap relief to see if houston bite

  • AR

    My parents grew up in Russia so I know what pieces of sht communists are. For the life of me, I don’t know why Yao won’t move his family to America (if he hasn’t done that already) and says “Fck you” to China.

  • Back In Black

    Awww chinas last chance at the NBA…. Same type of thing happend when the raptors player broke his foot

  • thewize

    I wonder if he’s tried those special magnets for healing bones, I heard they really work well.

  • LeoneL

    Rockets should trade Yao to the Suns…

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    @Brad Long: Even Yao-less, these Rockets gave the Lakers a hell of a fight, I’ll give you that. I guess it remains to see if they can sustain that intensity for an entire season, though, but they’ve proven us all wrong numerous times over the last few years with surprising success despite ravaged teams.

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    Oh my gosh I just really hope this isn’t it for Yao. Forget about the Rockets and about China for just one second and remember that Yao is a hell of a guy. Get well soon, big man.

  • ed

    any chance the Rockets look to the Clippers to get either Camby or K?

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/officerbarbrady what

    I don’t usually care all that much when players on teams I don’t care about get injured, but I feel terrible for Yao… he’s an underrated player and is just good for the NBA all around.

  • http://slamonline Blaze

    Wonder if LAC is calling PHO in hopes of getting the OTHER Griffin kid. Btw why does Phoenix keep drafting the “not as good brother”. They have Griffin, Lopez, and should take one of the Collins twins, they both suck now.

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    Is this guy cursed or something? D.A.M.N

  • http://www.slamonline.com/online/category/blogs/fear/ Freedom Fries

    RIP Yao. Don’t let Oden drink from the same water cooler.

  • http://www.broy7.com nate the great

    i got a quick fix to this houston team.
    trade shane battier to the hornets for tyson chandler.
    aaron brooks, von wafer/twac/artest, scola, and chandler.
    thats a great team.
    and about yao. if the refs didnt fck over the blazers in the playoffs, yao would have never been hurt. HA.
    basketball gods have spoken.

  • ferrarigto

    If you have a Center on your team you just gotta accept that hes gonna be hurt a lot. Thats the reality of the nba these days

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    Well, this sucks. Don’t really know what to say. Most of it’s been said already anyways.

  • Billy

    FCK…Houston is just the the best in injury…well fck u might need to trade him for something like Amare…FCK this…T-MAC is still the best!!!!!

  • melo15rush

    sad news for the rockets franchise….we definetely dont want the chinese power house go down…man i say HE WILL BE BACK!
    MING YAO
    24.3 PPG
    10.6 RPG
    2.7 APG
    1.9 BPG

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    It’s Tracy McGrady fault!!!

  • chazz michael michaels

    Ron Artest better watch out… he’s next!

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    @ Nick Kalathes: Really? Gasol is better than Yao? Get the heck out of here. Gasol may be less injury prone and a little quicker because he’s a freakin FORWARD, but besides that he’s got nothing on Yao. Thanks for playing.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Also, for a guy who thinks Manu Ginobli is a top 50 NBA player of all time, you really should stop acting like you know more than everyone from North America.

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    Is Yao a baby’s daddy?

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Blinguo

    Heh, Teddy came back the next day and responded to that nonsense about Gasol again! Its usually best to ignore N-K there, looks like he enjoyed just being responded to, but calls everyone else naive. Not trying to hurt international relations of SLAM commenters here or anything but that guy is hardheaded about his Euro players and straight hated on the Big-O immediately in that topic, listing who’s better which that wasn’t what the topic was about plus nobody will listen when you do it that way. He could have said, Big-O was good and I hope SLAM gets more articles on players just as good or arguably better than Oscar, such as 1-2-3-4-5 here.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Well said, Blinguo. All good man haha.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    AR is the reason why its really hard for me NOT to be vulgar on this comment section. Ignorance to him is bliss, but it really makes me angry.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    RedRum too. Freaking redneck. Does Miyagi sound Chinese to you? Please don’t say stupid things like that if you have absolutely NO idea what Chinese medicine is, or can do. Thanks.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Blinguo

    Takes all kinds B.

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