Monday, July 20th, 2009 at 9:00 am  |  72 responses

Even the Summer League Has an MVP ‘Controversy’

by Marcel Mutoni

Why should the regular season be the only one to enjoy a good old fashioned MVP debate?

To be honest, I haven’t caught a nanosecond of Summer League play, and I don’t feel any poorer for it as a hoops fan. Some people, though, take this stuff quite seriously and follow it religiously. That’s the overwhelming reason why you’re getting this post.

Blake Griffin was named MVP of the Vegas Summer League, and even though his jersey wasn’t retired in sad and hilarious fashion, this honor has some quite heated. Namely, fans and media in the Bay Area.

From the Contra Costa Times:

I just learned that Blake Griffin was named MVP of the Las Vegas summer League. I don’t know who chooses, but certainly they spent too much time at Margeritaville. Anthony Randolph shoulda been MVP.

Certainly, Griffin had more hype. He cemented himself as one of the most dominant rookies in summer league history and many expect him to have a stellar rookie season. And, no doubt, many of the voters, whoever they are, may not have seen much of Randolph since the Warriors played the first half of the schedule and most people came for the second half, when Griffin arrived. Randolph did miss his last game. Still, a look at the stats would’ve been enough to crown Randolph the winner:

Randolph: 26.8 points, 60.9 FG%, 8.5 rebounds and 3.0 blocks.
Griffin: 19.2 points, 50.0 FG%, 10.8 rebounds and 0.4 blocks.

Hard to argue with the above. Especially when one considers that Randolph’s team had a significantly better showing this summer than Griffin’s.

Now, if you’ll excuse me, I would like to get back to not caring.

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  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    F*ck that. Joey Dorsey should’ve won it hands down. 5-0 record and double digit/double point rebound games with 3-5 assists per game and 3+ blocks too. GTFOH with that BS.
    BTW, I saw on nba.com that Johnny Flynn won rookie of the month. WHAT?!?

  • http://adfji.com Jukai

    It’s all race related, like all MVPs.

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    LOL @ Jukai
    But anyways, Dorsey’s last game vs. the Lakers:
    20rebounds, 11pts, 5assists, 3steals, 2 blocks – in 32 minutes.

  • WhaHos

    0/10 Jukai

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    Anyways, for the 5-0 Summer League ‘campaign’ Dorsey averaged:
    9.8pts, 14.8rebounds, 3assists, 2.6blocks, 1steal, 62.1%shooting in 31 minutes.

  • Yesse

    Yeah i really agree with this.Did David Stern put his hands on this as well?

  • zabba

    You’re right, no one cares.

  • http://lastknickstanding.blogspot.com Bryan

    Nice story.

  • Tuomas

    Oh for the love of god and all that is holy.

  • jay

    this seems like the perfect time to mention Ricky Rubio…

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    Me Bryan?
    I’m just stating my pov, that’s all.

  • riggs

    hey so i ate some waffles this morning…

  • j4zzm4n

    this just in…the sky is blue.

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    Fine, I don’t care. I just want the Rockets to have something to be proud of, the way their season is shaping up as is, there isn’t going to be a whole lot.
    Hey riggs, I had toast – with vegemite. Was fairly good…

  • Wdavid

    Blake won’t be able to get off half the stuff he does in the league. Better work on that elbow jumper Big Red.

  • http://slamonline.com/ niQ

    Although the MVP was probably Randolph, I’m surprised and a bit confused as to why everyone says Blake will not produce in the L. It’s as if they’re saying he’ll be a bust before he even played a single regular season game. Dude was seen as the most NBA ready of this whole draft. If a player like this is seen as a bust, there is no hope for anyone else from the ’09 draft.

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    Anthony Randolph was robbed FTW

  • http://slamonline.com Brad Long

    I thought Ammo deserved it.

  • Tenorca

    Matt Bonner objects to you calling Griffin Big Red. Don’t steal the man’s nickname.
    Also, AR is a mammal. Kid averaged 15/10 the last month of the season with starter’s minutes—much easier to put stock into actual NBA PT than YMCA summer league. He’s supposedly starting this year too. Should average a double-double and be one of the only reasons to watch the Warriors scrambled their way into tenth place again. Watch out L-Wolves!

  • riggs


  • Prentice


    I thought Bonner was the Red Rocket?

    Regardless, they have to be two of the least fear inducing nicknames in the L.

  • J2daRed

    What about Anthony Randolph? He averaged 26.8 pts, 8.5 rebounds, and 3.0 blks per game!! I mean griffin looked good but he’s supposed to, he was the number 1 pick! Randolph was out of his mind, 3 double-doubles in 4 games!

    Does everyone forget?

    Warriors might surprise you this year

  • http://lastknickstanding.blogspot.com Bryan

    Hursty how in the world did you think that was directed at you?

  • http://www.puristbotique.com Waylonakolipse

    Randolph is going to develope into a all-star caliber player along with Biedrins. If the Warriors stay healthy, no mopeds, and Maggette plays well as a 6th man, the Warriors are going to be a surprise in 2010 and make the playoffs.

  • Tenorca

    Prentice: Mmm. Fair enough. I usually call him “Big Red.” But I’m usually drunk.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com DP

    Does Anthony ever smile? I’m scared of that guy. No denying the dude’s talent though, he is the future of the Warriors if Don plays him. Free Randolph! or send him to the lakers…much better idea. play wit it.

  • http://Slamonline.com Spaceship Jay

    MMmmmmmm… I don’t care either.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z


  • E.

    Randolph can have the MVP. Bet you Griffin doesn’t care. Randolph played with NBA players even if its only one season. Plus hes had NBA coaching. Randolphs good, but I think you guys are WAY over hyping him though.Blake Griffin will be ROY just by helping the Clipps become playoff contenders. They will make by next season.

  • E.

    Randolph can have the MVP. Bet you Griffin doesn’t care. Randolph played with NBA players even if its only one season. Plus hes had NBA coaching. Randolphs good, but I think you guys are WAY over hyping him though.Blake Griffin will be ROY just by helping the Clipps become playoff contenders.

  • Tenorca

    E.: You need to watch Randolph before you say “WAY overhyping.” He got much better through last year and is, already, one of the most exciting players in the league. Not “best” but “exciting.”
    “Play wit it.”

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com DP

    Griffin winning the ROY is a no-brainer looking as how this draft is just weak as hell. Plus MVP’s really don’t matter in summer L because it’s basically players trying to get the 12th man slot on a team vs. the rookies. Only people I see messing with Griffin in the ROY is BJ and Flynn just because he is my favorite player period. play wit it.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com DP

    shoutout to tenorca. play wit it.

  • E.

    Tenorca: I’ve watched him play in person. He’s good (especially being undrafted) but just doesn’t impress me as much.

  • Tenorca

    E: You sound like you’re describing Anthony Morrow (who was indeed undrafted) not Anthony Randolph (who was stolen at 14).

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com DP

    Morrow knows his calling…jack threes and be done with it. I enjoy players like that. play wit it.

  • Young Lebron 23

    Randolph shouldve been MVP! Plus he said he shouldve had more than 3 rebounds. At least he knows what he needs to work on

  • E.

    Sorry for the mix up Tenorca. You should be proud of your boy Randolph. I just read he got invited to Team USA’s minicamp along with my boy Eric Gordon.

  • Josh D

    Does this really matter?

  • Josh D

    Although come to think of it neither of these teams have any player who looks like he’ll win any kind of MVP in the next few years

  • Tenorca

    E: Nice. They’re both damn fine youngsters stuck with damn weak franchises. That division’s going to be such trash: Clips, Warriors, Kings, and crippled Suns all getting bludgeoned by the Lakers. Hideous.

  • Chris

    The really issue here is how does the summer league MVP get chosen? If it’s by sports writers, you can bet that many more of them saw the Griffin (#1 pick, bigger story) play than saw Randolph play. The voting should go to coaches and scouts.

    But then again, nobody really cares.

  • http://ballislifeonline.ning.com/profiles/blogs/in-honor-of-the-number-one Moose

    Summer League means nothing. Because, well, Anthony Randolph is in the MVP talks. A sure sign that nobody cares. No disrespect to Randolph, but the fact that he averaged what he did shows that it doesn’t matter.

  • tavoris

    dp…my ROY money is still on James Harden. He’s gonna have a field day with Durant, Westbrook, and Green taking up all the defensive attention.

  • http://www.clutchfans.net nick

    Hursty: Dorsey and Buddinger, Co-MVP

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    Westbrook-Harden-Durant-Green-Kristic = OKC ftw. Plus they own Phoneix’s unprotected 1st round pick for this season as well as a crapload of other draft picks, they are going to be in bussines for a long time.

  • http://www.clutchfans.net nick

    In a similar news I was robbed of the MVP of the Emory University Summer 3 on 3 Tournament-and-4th- of-July-Charity-Cookout-Jamboree, which matters at least as much as this story.

  • http://ballislife.com Moose

    Well nick, since you attend(ed) Emory University, at least it means that you’re smarter than Randolph AND Griffin.

  • http://www.clutchfans.net nick

    Moose: I would rather be dunking on Hamed Haddadi.

  • rob stewart

    Wasn’t it Randolph and Mortimer who starred in the movie TRADING PLACES? In this case Randolph and Griffin need to trade places

  • http://www.broy7.com nate the great

    yeah im a eric gordon fan, and randolph, but my team is the blazers. i cant wait for the blazers to go deep in the playoffs.

  • http://slamonline Blaze

    were the games even televised? From what I saw on the news Curry lit it up, Blake had a huge game, and Thabeet stunk.

  • http://slamonline Blaze

    @Nate the great- nice to see a fellow blazer fan here. Been going to games since Clyde,Kersey,uncle Cliffy,Porter, and 00Duck.

  • http://www.blogs.myspace.com/originadro Witness

    Can we safely say that while the Lake show is runnin Cali we’re goin to start the B-Griff/A-Rand debate?

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    Bryan- I just guessed that you were being sarcastic. Sorry.
    nick- I have to disagree. Buddinger put a lot of points on the board (and he did it very effectively), but he didn’t guard anyone. Dorsey also had a lot of hockey assists – the pass that led to the assist. I guess if you had an offense MVP and defense MVP it’d be those guys though for the Rockets.

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    I completely not related fashion. The Rockets wont be that bad this season. They will be hungry to compete. Unlike the Clippers.

  • http://ballislife.com Moose

    @ nick: I think you won’t regret it, haha. Just out of curiosity, what do you study? Prestigious school like that, you’ll probably get a job fairly easily in your field, whatever that is, after graduation.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    What really concerns me is how Anthony Randolph is going to be robbed of minutes and development by the one and only Nellie.

  • http://www.clutchfans.net nick

    @moose–My “field” is creative writing, so sadly, I will in fact not get a job easily. I just graduated and i’m currently applying to grad schools while working for peanuts as an assistant coach for the emory debate team which actually is a pretty decent gig.

  • http://www.clutchfans.net nick

    Hursty: You’re right that Buddinger played no defense, but I think he showed himself to be the most game-ready of Rockets rookies as a plug-and-play system cog. Dorsey was a monster on the boards, but I can’t let go of the fact that he averaged 5 fouls…If this were the regular season, he might have taken himself out of a couple of those games. Of course, he wouldn’t be playing 30 mins per if this were the regular season, so that may not be an issue. I was very, very, very, VERY surprised with Dorsey’s passing, which was consistently excellent, not only kicking out of the post but also finding cutters. He showed a touch on some of those passes that I didn’t know he possessed in any phase of the game. I’m thinking of one pass he threw against the lakers in particular, a little touch-floater to a cutter coming down the lane (i forget who…taylor, I think). I think with consistent minutes, he could turn into a very, very effective bench big, especially if he picks up a little bit of offensive footwork from banging against Scola and Anderson every day in practice.

  • kevin

    Randolph will probably be the top fantasy sleeper this year i think if he starts he will get 10-15 PPG, 2 BPG, 1 SPG, 8-10 RPG
    but the summer league is basicly practice

  • ab_40

    blake griffin 0.4 blocks per game? they better hope camby stays around because this looks shamefull. so at first he was K Mart and now he’s K Mart without the shot blocking… bummer

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    Yeh, Buddinger looks ready to go. Stick him in for 10-12 minutes a night, he looks set right now. More polished than I expected actually. So, regarding those early Ben Wallace/Joey Dorsey comparisons… BRRT haha. Dorsey can come in, play 10-15 give a hard foul here or there etc. Imagine him and Hayes on together, defense, rebounding, great passing. I hope a little of Scola and Andersen rubs off on him. I guess that guarding guys like Yao and Scola last year improved his offense, and being defended/watching Hayes has taken his D to another level. Speculation, but he looks sooo much better.
    Rockets coaching is brilliant, so is management, but DAMN the physical conditioning and health staff needs an upgrade.

  • gay allah

    ok, scrap that. Grif is the goods peoples. ZR was better but as been stated is NBA coached etc. Put my money on the Clips for their offseason aquisitions and an incredible juggling act that obviously gives them a roster worthy if not better than A few already established teams ( Oklahoma T`s, SacK, Wash etc etc) So get sick wit it people, aaaight

  • Rob Wells Jr.

    Anthony Randolph is an athletic freak! More than Griffin i believe.

  • http://adfji.com Jukai

    I hate to say “I told you so” but what did I say about Buddinger? Kids mint. I couldn’t believe he didn’t get guarenteed money.

  • http://www.myspace.com/weezyleezy337 weezy f. leezy

    was it griffin..was it randolph…..even harden soulda got a mention. all i know is……IT SURE WAST RICKY FU\CKIN RUBIO!

  • http://slamonline Dark Knight

    Why wasn’t Kobe considered? Lebron? ;)

  • ngoiekafita

    First on the Anthony Randolph bandwagon!!!!
    (I either take him or Wilson ‘pony’ Chandler as my starting SF on NBA 2K)

  • ngoiekafita

    Mmm, i’ma start charging whoever wants to ride on AR bandwagon!

  • http://june7thdonald@netzero.com donlaker

    dude how is nobody talking about adam morrison hitting turnaround fadeaways in vegas
    he clearly is the mvp of summer
    and a randolph is nice hope he gets better quickly

  • zyup

    umm is it because griffin is an actual rookie like bayless and randolph is a 2nd year summer league visitor other known as a veteran lol in summer league years!