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Thursday, July 9th, 2009 at 9:00 am  |  93 responses

Marion Lands in Dallas

Cuban & Co. hire the Matrix.

by Marcel Mutoni

As it had been previously rumored, The Matrix is now reportedly a Dallas Maverick.

Mark Cuban’s computer screen apparently told him this was a good idea, and he pulled the trigger on a rather complicated deal to acquire Marion. Involved in the transaction are the Mavs, Raptors, and either the Grizzlies or Thunder.

The Star-Telegram explains:

An NBA source said Wednesday that the deal for the 6-foot-7 forward will happen and that a trade call with the NBA office had been set up for today. Barring unforeseen circumstances, the deal will go through today. Details weren’t completely known. But it’s a sure thing that Jerry Stackhouse is the principle piece moving from the Mavericks to Toronto. But it is likely he will move on from there.

It matters not for Stackhouse, because he will be an unrestricted free agent when he is bought out by the team that eventually ends up with him. That team, which is believed to be Memphis or Oklahoma City, will absorb a $2 million salary, the guaranteed portion of his 2009-2010 contract. Other players could be involved in the deal, although none of the Mavericks’ key personnel will be involved.

As the linked article points out, the Mavs could potentially roll out a starting lineup that looks like this next season: Gortat, Nowitzki, Marion, Howard and Kidd, plus Terry reprising his sixth man role.

That, of course, isn’t enough to win a title, but it’s certainly nothing to sneeze at either.

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  • nicko

    i heard he got traded for shaq!!!

  • BK all Day

    First! and as a Mavs fan I love this. Stackhouse was a bum and hopefully the Marion and Kidd combo can be similar to the Marion-Nash combo.

  • http://adfji.com Jukai

    You know… that… that’s not a TERRIBLE starting lineup.

  • http://www.hoopsmanifesto.blogspot.com Jeff Fox

    Dallas fans better hope Marion still has some springs left in his legs.

  • nicko

    your moms a terrible starting lineup

  • http://adfji.com Jukai

    Yeah, she needs to work on her jump shot and get more quickness in her first step. She’s got great basketball IQ though!

  • http://www.mynameinblue.blogspot.com Hisham

    Gortat should not be a starting center in the NBA

  • http://www.mynameinblue.blogspot.com Hisham

    nicko is the new idiot on the block

  • http://lastknickstanding.blogspot.com Bryan

    Marion will cry his way out of dallas to.

  • http://www.dontclick.blogspot.com/ Freshly

    Still no contender.

  • http://www.fanballers.com so fresh n so clean

    Don’t know if you heard, but this is a complex four team trade involving a sign and trade with Turkoglu and the Magic…

    DAL gets Marion, Greg Buckner (from Mem), Humphries (from TO)

    MEM gets Stack (from Dal), Quincy Douby (from TOR) and Cash

    TO gets Turkoglu (sign and trade from ORL), Antoine Wright and Devean George (both from Dallas)

    This is a GREAT trade for Toronto. Given that Turkoglu came via a sign and trade, the Raps now have the ability to use their Mid-Level Exception on some other keys pieces (Delfino and Rasho, just guessing…)

    Dallas gets their man in Marion and now with Kidd, Terry, Howard, Marion and Dirk, they have a lineup that can run and gun when needed. The Mavs have had an amazing offseason.

    The advantage for Orlando is that they get a 8 million dollar trade kicker, which will be very useful for them in the future.

    BIG Move by Colangelo.

  • http://www.realcavsfans.com Anton

    The Matrix got offered two pills – the red offers less money but a championship contender while the blue is rotting away into obscurity but with money.
    He will never find out how deep the rabbit hole goes.

  • MattM

    Teams seem to be stockpiling older players. Is this a reaction to teams like the Thunder, Blazers, and G State?

  • Flash

    the revenge of the matrix! watch out everybody, here we go again run n gun style!

  • Flash

    shawn would probably f**kin shut all o ya’ll doubters saying he aint got no game left in him! and im glad!

  • nicko

    good one hisham…now go take care of your kids

  • http://slamonline.com/ niQ

    I hope the deal so fresh n so clean said was true. Cause that’d be a great for the Raps. Antoine Wright is steadily improving and could be great coming off the bench (assuming he will come off the bench)

    All I got from the newspaper is that it was a 4 team trade. They never mentioned which 4 teams or which players were involved (because they still needed approval from the League). But I’m glad everything is fixed. Just waiting for the season to start now!

  • http://adfji.com Jukai

    Nicko: should he trade his kids for Shaq?

  • nicko

    hahaha that would be a wise decision

  • underdog

    I hope the Matrix picks up his game in the Western Conference where he left off. The Mavs team looks good, but I think JKidd was a little bit too expensive.

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    oh wow, Dallas got Gortat too? That is an improvement over the corpse formerly known as “Eric is Damp”. Yep, Juks is right. That starting 5 can compete. Titles? Nope. Not with the Spurs GM doing a damn good job over there in San Antonio. But Dallas is now in a much better Situation than Nawlins, Houston, or even Utah (if they let Milsap leave, those dum dums). I am cautiously optimistic. Barrea must work on his game (D, decision making…) so he can spell Jason Kidd, because i shudder at the thought of Ason playing big minutes. Especially with that broke-ass set shot he’s got.

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    umm, to those who claim Stack is a bum? Shame on you. Watch Stackhouse from ’00-07. Player president right thurr. And whats this running gag on slamonline with “trade xyz for Shaq”? Don’t get it

  • jk_light

    Hi Darksaber,
    I read somewhere that Jason Kidd’s setshots from 3 where really high percentage, but don’t know where it was.
    I think with this team they are competing hard for the 3rd spot in the West. Can they beat a healthy Lakers or Spurs team? I don’t think so. But what trade or signing could they have done to look better than the real contenders?

  • nicko

    trade Darksaber for shaq!!!

  • http://slamonline.com/ niQ

    Jason Kidd’s percentages were very nice during the playoffs this season. But anyone who’s ever owned Kidd in a fantasy league would scoff at the idea of high percentages from Kidd.

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    nicko is fun…ny. (kinda).

  • http://www.mynameinblue.blogspot.com Hisham

    nicko has no trade value! i wouldn’t trade nicko for a post-it

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    i know about the percentages. All media outlets were raving about his much improved long range shooting” last season. Know what? % is just one part of it. The way Ason bricked open 3 after open 3 in the Denver Series shows me all i need to see. Gotta make those when your # 2 and 3 options are struggling all playoffs long. Kidd was fantastic for a decade or more, no question now he’s a liability.

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    ok, Hish wins that round.

  • http://www.anwilson.blogspot.com/ rainman10

    I think Gortat should be given a chance to start. Now I dont mean 40 minutes a night, even starting in Dallas he will get maybe 25 minutes. They will often go with lineup of Dirk, Marion, Howard, Terry and Kidd which isn’t bad. Check Gortat stats per 48 minutes, and his efficiency rating. A good rebounder and shot blocker, which is all they need him for.

  • nicko

    yo momma

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    Great analysis, rainman. Just hope Josh Howard can come back healthy. The way he played through injury all through the playoffs was inspiring. But a healthy Josh makes the Mavs very tough to stop.

  • http://nbacheapseats.blogspot.com Chendaddy

    They’ve got the talent. They need the chemistry. Maybe they can all go camping in Australia with Dirk or smoke a fat one with Josh Howard.

  • http://bleacherreport.com/users/42594-Hoops4life- Overtime

    How much would you like this lineup on your team about 3 years ago?

  • http://www.alllooksame.com Tarzan Cooper

    i dont know whos more excited about trix teaming with kidd, me or kidd. kidd to kenyon was one of the best oop combos ever.

  • Dallas J

    people who hate on this deal…u scared! So eager to bury the Mavs..not so fast. Matrix Reloaded!

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    I feel sorry for Rick Carlisle.

  • http://slamonline.com Brad Long

    Meh.

  • larrylegend

    what you should you do with kidd, what should he do? 1. coming of the bench is no option, it’s a waste. 2. retirement…no way, this guy is born for basketball. 3. trade him for another very good point guard is very unlikely (NY has none). it’s good as it is, dallas is a nice place for players, he will play playoff games and the mavs have the greatest teacher of the game nowadays.

  • larrylegend

    Rick Carlisle still coaches the mavs…damn…i forgot.

  • larrylegend

    Rick Carlisle still coaching the mavs?…damn, i forgot

  • wayno

    good for you

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    Shawn Marion = false hope. Don’t be fooled, Mavs fans. I don’t like to prematurely “playa hate”, but let’s see him prove me wrong. He’s already set an impressive precedent for making the worst out of any situation. 1.) Whined his way out of Phoenix, despite taking the most shots on a team where he really wasn’t that stacked team’s best offensive player. 2.) Clearly wasn’t happy in Miami, despite Pippenesque hopes and clearly being the team’s second-best offensive option by a wide margin. 3.) Ditto with Toronto. Think he can happily share the ball with Dirk, Howard, JT and Kidd? Hopefully – but objectively looking at his history, you’d have to seriously doubt it.

  • http://slamonline.com Brad Long

    Shawn Marion messed up the chemistry in the locker room of my fantasy team this year.

  • Kadavour

    Good point Joel O.

  • andre anglais

    Gortat played the pick and roll beautifully for Orlando in the playoffs. He played well and within his limitations, and deserves his payday. Good pickup for a team with a smart PG.

  • andre anglais
  • andre anglais

    Trade details here:
    http://www.thestar.com/sports/article/663295
    So Fresh/Clean had it mostly right:
    DAL gets Hump, Nathan Juwai, and Matrix
    TOR gets George and Wright
    DAL also picks up Greg Buckner (whoa) from MEM
    MEM gets the stack, a 2016 2nd round pick from TOR, and cash for stack’s buyout (2 mil, I guess).
    Orlando gets a trade exemption for future deals (Turkoglu is somehow wrapped up in this thing, too) and Tdot manages to save enough cap space for maybe one other.

    Crazy, convoluted deal, makes me wish I was Brian Collangelo’s accountant.

  • http://slamonline.com/ niQ

    I think the Raptors just added Nathan Jawai to the deal.

  • http://slamonline.com/ niQ

    Btw, Marion should’ve stayed in Phoenix. It still boggles my mind how he left team that was a match made in heaven for him.

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    Thanks, Kadavour. I don’t “hate” Shawn Marion. But he’s just let a LOT of people down in the last four or so years.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Y’all can keep blaming Marion if you like for what happened in Phoenix.
    Not me.
    The man was tired of being told Steve Nash “made him.” So he bounced.
    Joe Johnson did the same thing.
    Amare is considering it.
    The point being, why don’t y’all get mad at the folks who kept saying Steve Nash “made” any of the Phoenix players who they are instead of getting mad at players who made business decisions based on their personal happiness.
    Seems a little asinine.

  • Tenorca

    All the Mavs need to do now is find Doc Brown’s Delorean and go back to 2004.

  • Tenorca

    All the Mavs need to do now is find Doc Brown’s Delorean and go back to 2004.

  • http://slamonline Blaze

    Marion has plenty of game left in him.. He was just on 2 bad teams. He has not had any serious injuries that would slow him down. Contenders? thats kinda pushing it.

  • http://adfji.com Jukai

    Allenp: well… isn’t Marion proving the haters right by being absolutely and totally worthless in Miami and Toronto?
    While Joe Johnson proved he WAS being held back being a third option in Phoenix, Marion is making himself look like a fool.
    Had Marion stayed in Phoenix and continued to ‘be made’ by Steve Nash and D’Antoni’s system, he probably would have a much bigger contract than what he has in Dallas.

  • http://drexlerwasabeast.com nbk

    Shawn Marion is essentially what darius miles could have been…… good in the right system, always effective on defense, but overrated nonetheless

  • Rusty

    trade nathan Jawai for Shaq!!

  • yaway

    its going to be great to watch 3 versatile players: Howard, Marion, Nowitzki, and sometimes Kidd

  • yaway

    step on my Cubes baby! step on my Cubes!

  • http://slamonline.com Brad Long

    Shawn Marion is a Decepticon.

  • yaway

    Breaking News: Spurs sign Antonio McDyess. Let’s crown them the 2009-2010 NBA champs. (if Manu is healthy).

  • http://myspace.com/DATBOIFABIO fabio

    poor mavs.

  • http://slamonline Blaze

    Mavs and Spurs will be better than last year, but Lakers may still be too much, plus you gotta watch out for the up and coming Blazers,Hornets,Grizzlies, and Nuggets.

  • JUFU

    jason’s gonna have a lotta fun this year… we forget that jason kidd is a ridiculous passer

  • Rusty

    Yes i never considered this, Shawn marion will be a stud again this year because of kidd.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Yao Ming embarassing Shaq:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWODzPCJfHE
    Why would Dallas get Marion if they have Josh Howard? For fun?

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    LMFAO @ Brad L.

  • Ralph ‘chaps’ Rodriguez

    I’m not feeling all the flak kidd is catching on this board. First off kidd was never known to be a lights out shooter in the first place that wasn’t his bread n butter. But he makes up for that in a lot of other ways great court vision some might think of as overrated but trust me it pays to know about 25 mill to be exact dallas ain’t dumb they know kidd is a leader. Wouldn’t be surprised to see him inch closer to a dime in the apg catagory once more in his career.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    Juks: Shawn was 20-10 before Nash got to the desert.
    I’m baffled that no journalist has ever dug deep to see what the hell was going on in that locker room! NOBODY was ever happy. Mike D? Whiner. Nash? Whiner. STAT? Whiner. Matrix? Whiner. Joe Johnson? Pouter. Raja? Whiner. Boris Diaw? Pouter. They were playing an electric kind of basketball but those guys where NOT getting along. It’s not a coincidence that every but Nash is gone and STAT is on his way out. Truth is that Nash didn’t ‘make’ a single one of these guys. They all either performed very well before he got there or after they left. They were a good team and he was part of that good team. I don’t know why everybody kept forcing us the you-will-regret-this-for-the-rest-of-your-life rethoric. I remember the Sports Guy going NUTS that Joe left for Atlanta because he wouldn’t be able to duplicate his success over there. Turned out okay for him, no?

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    Oh and that’s actually a very good line up with a killer 6th man. They’re for real. Dirk is a monster, I know that a lot of people (myself included) like to poke fun at him because he’s such a freaking goof but he’s ruthless out there. He learned from the G State series and sending an athletic wing on him doesn’t work anymore. He’ll back him down to his sweet spot and rain turn around J’s on his a– all day. His J from around the key is automatic.

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    *gasp*, Z is that really you? complimenting Dirkster’s game? i am superbly impressed.

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    @Z: I think a part of the Suns’ unhappiness stemmed from futility – from the fact that for all their talent, for all the points they put up, the Spurs seemed to have their number, year after year, in the playoffs. Even when the Suns were arguably the better team, they were beaten thanks to Bowen and Horry’s uh, veteran plays.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Blinguo

    Stackhouse hasn’t been seen since the Golden State series, where he didn’t know where he was playing, and thus was quite grumpy about it-promising wins in a front of a tough guy image despite the actual score of being down in the series and being torn up nearly every game in the total recent record then between GSW and DAL. Oakland scared him into obscurity. So yes, he is a bum.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Blinguo

    Devean George couldn’t no trade clause this one.

  • http://www.broy7.com nate the great

    marions a tool. foh real. dallas will regret it.
    i think that they will be the 6th seed.
    lakers, spurs, nuggets, blazers, jazz, dallas, hornets, golden st/rockets.

  • http://www.mynameinblue.blogspot.com Hisham

    dude golden state is not making the playoffs this year

  • http://adfji.com Jukai

    Z: Until he goes back to 20-10, it was a bad decision. Really, it was! Marion was getting alley-oops from Starbury before Nash. Since going on none-point guard oriented teams, Marion has no ability to score, he doesn’t dude! Marion is a vastly overrated player! Nash DID make him!
    Nash at the time probably ‘made’ Amare too, since he was purely a physical player, but since then Amare has expanded his game to the point where he doesn’t need Nash’s help. Nash also made Richardson, Bell, and Thomas relevant again.
    On the downside, Nash probably held back Diaw and Joe Johnson, since those guys are much more effectively playing more with the ball and working it themselves.
    What I dont’ get is how other point guards don’t get credit for doing these things– I mean, I’m pretty sure Jason Kidd made both Jefferson and Kenyon Martin. They are NOT the players they once were when playing with Kidd.

  • JUFU

    @nate: jazz are gonna tank this year if boozeman is goin’ to chi-town, and hisham’s rite. golden state was a flash in the pan.

    at everyone: the mavs now have four legit all-stars. kidd, nowitzki, marion, and howard. and i like how now the only stat people are about is points and shooting%. look at jason’s assist and rebound numbers. then nowitzki…the dude can shoot lights out, and he doesn’t need to really get boards anymore, ’cause we got the dam matrix! and howard, when healthy, is probably the mav’s most dangerous guy

  • JUFU

    @nate: jazz are gonna tank this year if boozeman is goin’ to chi-town, and hisham’s rite. golden state was a flash in the pan.

    at everyone: the mavs now have four legit all-stars. kidd, nowitzki, marion, and howard. and i like how now the only stat people are about is points and shooting%. look at jason’s assist and rebound numbers. then nowitzki…the dude can shoot lights out, and he doesn’t need to really get boards anymore, ’cause we got the dam matrix! and howard, when healthy, is probably the mav’s most dangerous guy

  • rjcortesjumpman

    Gortat’s a good back-up but he’s definitely not a starter… ORL got the better deal with signing Bass!

  • trick..

    aaachooooooo..

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Are you kidding nate? Golden State is not going to make the playoffs if Phoenix doesn’t.
    @ Z: Shawn Marion was made by his point guards, practically. To be fair, though, he’s a great finisher that helped point guards like Nash and co. to rack up assists like madmen.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Josh Howard is pretty annoying. He’s in the top 10 most annoying basketball players list. Sasha is obviously top 3 in that category. I’d put Josh around 5.

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    @Jukai: Good point. This “Nash made XXX” sentiment is out of hand. Isn’t it the pg’s job to create opportunities for his teammates? Did Magic “make” Worthy? Did CP “made” West? Stockton sure as hell didn’t “make” Malone. Sure, Nash and all these PG greats were very good at creating for their teammates, but what “made” these receivers great is their ability to convert passes into points, the ability to catch and score so efficiently. And that’s as rare a talent as being a great distributor.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    @ Joel O’s: Umm, no its not. Are you kidding? You’re saying a Tyson Chandler or a Kenyon Martin, or even a Shawn Marion are as rare as a Chris Paul? No.
    Obviously a good finisher is valuable, but the two aren’t even close in terms of “rarity”. And James Worthy/Karl Malone are both light years ahead of Shawn Marion, so that’s not a great comparison. Put Karl Malone and Worthy on different teams, they’d still be phenomenal players in their own rights. Shawn Marion? Well, you’ve seen him in Miami and Toronto…

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    Teddy, the reverse argument can also be made. Give STAT and Matrix in their prime to Disaster Dickay and we’re looking at 8-9 assists minimum. A guy like Stoudemire catches and converts EVERYTHING down low amongst the 3s. That’ll make your assist rate go up.

  • ‘chaps’

    We’ll see who has a better year richard jefferson or marion..I’m saying marion haha no doubt kidd will “make” him

  • JUFU

    @joel o’s: um, CP DID make david west, and magic DID make worthy, and Stockton DID make Malone. So, uh, shut up.

  • http://www.milliondollamindz.com/blog MillionDollaMindz

    ^ 16 bars of the day

    I think this trade is overrated

  • Landyn15

    good for them, not a bad lineup

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  • mar

    gortat shouldn’t be a starter in any league! by the hes a rebok endorse and he has a jumpman tatto

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