Friday, July 3rd, 2009 at 2:05 am  |  145 responses

Ron Ron Comes to Hollywood

A shrewd move or precursor to destruction?

by Marcel Mutoni

During the 2009 Playoffs, Ron-Ron spent nearly as much time inside the Staples Center as Jack Nicholson (as both an opposing player and member of the crowd.) Next season, he will make it his permanent home.

Artest told CBS Sports first last night that he will soon be a Los Angeles Laker in a matter of days:

“I’m definitely going to L.A. — to sign, yeah,” Artest said in a phone interview. “Lakers, Lakers, Lakers. I’m in L.A. right now.”

“I don’t really care about the money,” Artest said. “I’ll play there for nothing…L.A. was very interested in me, and they got me.”

Despite the enthusiasm, Ron won’t be playing for nothing. He reportedly agreed to a three-year deal worth approximately $18 million.

So, can Artest fit into the triangle offense, how much defense does he have left in him (especially with Trevor Ariza now being a Rocket), will poor Pau Gasol ever see the basketball again, what about Lamar Odom, and most importantly, can all of those egos on the Laker roster mesh?

I don’t have the answer to any of those questions; all I know is that it’s going to a be a wild ride in L.A.

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  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    I fail to see this being a good trade/deal for the yellow/purple pants boys. Ariza at this stage, plays better D, shot well in the Playoffs and is infinetely less of a headcase than Rottweiler. Oh well, there goes any chance of a repeat….. good.

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    Wow, for two teams who had the most contested series in the 09 Playoffs this side of Bulls/Celtics, they sure don’t mind swapping important players. So Ron’s moving on…again.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    intriguing, interesting. on paper, artest is a much more accomplished player than ariza. but ariza had found a niche in la and did all the little things very well without ever trying to do too much. artest is… artest. which can be a wonderful or disastrous thing. i have no idea if this is an upgrade or not. laker fans, what say you?

  • http://www.thesportcount.com SportCountJames

    Anyone who things Ariza is a better defender than Ariza needs their head checked. Ariza cannot lock down PFs like Ron can now, as he’s a lot stronger than he was in 2004, and he still has the lateral footspeed to defend most wings as well.

    Likewise, from an offensive perspective, Ron is will light it up when the ball is in his hands less. His clip suffers thanks to his shot selection – with the open shots he’ll get from the bigs and attention on KB, we’ll be seeing open threes for 82+ from Ron Ron.

    I get Ariza was good in the playoffs – but we’re talking a top top player vs an overachieving, athletic role player.

  • http://www.thesportcount.com SportCountJames

    Obviously, 2nd ariza is Artest.

  • Harry

    Artest is second team all defense. He is a lock down defender. Egos? Phil is used to that. He relishes the challenge. Remember a guy named Rodman? The Lakers have upgraded!

  • Nickthequick

    Slight upgrade. Trevor is a very good anticipator but not a particularly great on-the-ball defender. Ron Ron plays great aggressive on-the-ball D without fouling unnecessarily. I would call the defense almost even depending on what you value more. But on offense, i think Ron can do a lot more: create, post, shoot, handle. Trevor is a slasher who became a very reliable three point shooter. If Ron can keep his mind right and not try to supplant Gasol as the #2 man then they should be alright.

  • http://www.fastbreak.com.sg Darksaber

    Nickthequick: great analysis, b-ball wise. Too bad with Artest, that’s only part of the equation.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    I’m really kind of sad about this… Ron Artest is probably my favorite ball player right now. And he was on one of my favorite teams. This stings, in a basketball sense, it stings pretty harshly. I know for sure Ron would’ve stayed with Houston, but what with Yao’s injury, a successful season was out of the question. Best of luck to my man Ron Artest and I hope he wins a ring, regardless if Sasha Vujacic and Adam Morrison and Lamar Odom are on his team.
    Us fans will definitely miss you, Ron Artest. Thank you for what you brought to the table this year, getting us out of the first round, giving it your all against the Lakers, every second. You’ve always been loyal and honest, a nice contrast to the many fakers in the league. You’ve played without paying too much attention to the cash, a nice contrast to the many misers out there in the league. To all the haters out there, know this: RON ARTEST IS STILL THE MAN.

  • Nickthequick

    I agree. Ron can and has been a nutcase but recently he has shown that he can behave if placed in the right situation. I don’t think Kobe will put up with all the drama esp after dealing with Shaq in the past. I would be willing to bet that they had to get Kobe and Phil’s OK on such a move or else they probably wouldn’t have done it. Kobe coincidentally resigned yesterday(?) so he must approve of this.I think Phil is very capable of managing and reahing through to Ron Artest in a way that other coaches aren’t able to do. Maybe I’m being a little too optimistic here but besides a few flare-ups i think Ron for the most part will fall in and prove himself.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Now time to stop being depressed. LOL.
    @ Darksaber: Ron Artest is a much better player than Trevor Ariza at this point in their careers. Nickthequick was spot on with his analysis, so I won’t go too deeply into that.
    See, the whole hype about how Ron Artest is bad for teams is total BS. He’s a great teammate and he’s learned to contain his emotions better on the court. He’s also got the toughness that many people said the Lakers lacked last season. As a leader and in his all-around playing style, he always has great chemistry with his teammates.
    The one thing I would be a little worried about, as a Laker/Lakers fan, is his relationship with Kobe Bryant. I know Kobe likes to direct a lot of traffic for his teammates, and criticize, etc. Sometimes Kobe gets a little out of line, even on his own teammates. Now, a softie like Sasha will gladly take Kobe’s verbal abuse, but a tough dude like Ron Artest might very well flip out and knock him the f– out… understandably. That’s pretty much the only worry.
    Oh and don’t forget Ron Artest is long-time homies with Lamar Odom, which will give Lamar incentive to re-up with LA. Also, Ron Artest is a great additional because of his lack of selfishness. He’s willing to take Ariza’s mid-level pay, which allows the Lakers to retain some key pieces.
    I really don’t see any negatives to this move, and, as a Rockets fan, I’m pretty sour about it.

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  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Basically, I’ll say this clearly:
    With a big 3 consisting of Kobe Bryant, Pau Gasol, and Ron Artest, the Lakers are going to win next year’s championship. Then with the same core, they are going to threepeat. And then some.

  • tekno

    Spike chose the wrong season to do a doco on Kobe. He should have waited until next season so that he could have captured what will no doubt be countless disfigurements of exasperation on Kobe’s face as Ron Ron launches bad shot after bad shot.

  • Double J

    I second Teddy-the-Bear

  • Double J

    All in favor say, “aye”

  • Donn

    i will miss Ariza…but not as much as Ariza will miss playing for the Lakers…have fun playing in Houston, Trevor. At least your getting paid and you get to play with Yao…oops…maybe you’ll get to play with Yao..or there is a chance you may never get to play with Yao…hey at least your gettin paid and you get to play with T-Mac..oops..never mind. BTW i’m absolutely ecstatic that the Tru-Warrior is a Laker!

  • Clockwork

    This is too cool. Can’t wait for next season!

  • tindore

    aye… Ron-Ron WOW!!! what a great move, losing Trevor sucks big-time but his agent was a major jerk and we got Ron-Ron(i hated him everytime he played LA)for $6 Mil…Let it resonate…$6mil… amazing, Ron-Ron is basically giving $5mil or so to charity(dr.buss), for that move he gets my every respect…

  • tindore

    think about this… E.O.Y. for Mitchie K. , D.P.O.Y. for Ron-Ron, 6th Man for Lamar, and maybe MVP for KB24, but best of all REPEAT, THREE-PEAT …DYNASTY… LA= 5 CHAMPS in the ’00s

  • PJ

    The tru warrior joining the ultimate warrior(kobe) will be dynamite! I love trevor’s game but i think with ron-ron the purple ang gold can match up better against the likes of melo, pp and ultimatelt, the king. as for trevor signing with the rockets, i think it wasn’t in his best interest to join them since they already have battier. He would’ve been better off in cleveland. Sheed please sign with the Celts already!

  • PJ

    The tru warrior joining the ultimate warrior(kobe) will be dynamite! I love trevor’s game but i think with ron-ron the purple ang gold can match up better against the likes of melo, pp and ultimatelt, the king. as for trevor signing with the rockets, i think it wasn’t in his best interest to join them since they already have battier. He would’ve been better off in cleveland. Sheed please sign with the Celts already!

  • rob

    rons gonna beat the heck out of kobe, jus wait, this is gonna b a disaster! hehehehe

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    The Lakers lose anticipation in the passing lanes, and explosive athleticism in halfcourt and on the break. Other than that, this is a huge upgrade.
    I thank Ron sincerely for the effort that he put in the last year, and wish him success. Knowing the current situation in Houston playerwise, I think I would have likely taken similair steps in his position.

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    *my sentences don’t seem to make 100% sense lol. Sorry!

  • RedRum

    I am not a Lakers fan, but I have been saying for years that Artest should have been to LA, to be Kobe’s Pipen.

  • Fut

    Who’s ready to start the countdown for when Kobe slaps Artest’s face mid-game.

  • http://sportzin.com Joey E.

    FREE RON ARTEST! Slam it took a few years, but he’s finally FREE

  • Big Kobe Fan

    Ron to L.A. is a good move by the Lakers but its a bad loss,lossing areza to the rockets just a slight upgrade for the lakers areza is good but ron is just a little better

  • ferrarigto

    The arms race continues,

    First San Antonio

    Then Cleveland

    Orlando followed suit

    LA was next.

    Expect to hear about big moves going down in Boston, Portland, Dallas and Denver.

  • T Money

    It seems to me that the Lakers are planning for next year’s finals, when they’ll need someone to get into LBJ’s head. This trade has Phil Jackson written all over it.


    oh man…what a bad move. Artest maybe an upgrade over Ariza on paper, but this ain’t NBA 2k9! sure he’s great on defense (though Ariza is almost as good anyway) but on offense? everybody who watched last season and playoffs can clearly see him pounding and pounding the ball or jacking up three after three that clangs off the rim. the Lakers’ pretty offense will stagnate if he continues to do that in LA (which i think he prob’ly would). his main flaw is thinking he’s Kobe on offense. which he’s not. “Teddy-the-Bear: …a softie like Sasha will gladly take Kobe’s verbal abuse, but a tough dude like Ron Artest might very well flip out and knock him the f– out… understandably.”


    “Teddy-the-Bear: …a softie like Sasha will gladly take Kobe’s verbal abuse, but a tough dude like Ron Artest might very well flip out and knock him the f– out… understandably.”

    second that. Kobe’s a legendary player but he ain’t MJ. MJ subdued Rodman with his will. Kobe ain’t gonna dominate Mr. Tru Warier.

  • MagicChicken

    Laker blood here: Ron’s Definitely a short term upgrade, no doubt about it. For years, people around here have been yawing of the guy, even contemplating Lamar for Artest trades back in Artest’s Queens says. I think everyone recognized that Kobe needed his Pippen, and a few years ago, Artest was probably the closest thing. … well, times have changed a bit. A ton of other 3′s have learned to play some defense, and Artest’s game has receded a bit (plus he kinda gave up in Sacto, but that town tends to do that to people). Even though Artest is better than Ariza, I’m pretty sure everyone knows that his better days are behind him. So as a Laker fan, ya, I’m happy we upgraded. At the same time, I’m a little sad, cuz we loved Ariza, and I’m also a lil’ disappointed in Ariza. Some people were even going as far to call Ariz the next Scottie Pippen, and under Phil, and alongside Kobe, they may have been right. But Trev wasn’t there yet, and may never get there without those two. I think he got a greedy a lil’ too soon. LA will miss you Ariza, but just remember that you chose this bro! Meanwhile, Artest will cash us in the next 3 championships … rings that could’ve been yours.

  • T Money

    I don’t see how any of this could be Ariza’s fault.

  • Logan

    Agree with the fact that Ariza had a great playoff series but his agent was asking for too much money. What did he sign for with the rockets finally? 33 mil over 5 years. Artests deal is 18 mil over 3 years. Not much difference in money. Biggest difference is the opportunity to win rings. His agent bluffed and the Lakers called it. Artest is a good upgrade from Trevor and I think this will be a good fit for LA. It also brings a lot of toughness and versitality to the team. Unfortunately Trevor is going to be stuck in rebuilding with the rockets….

  • Logan

    @T Money – his agent asked for too much money and ended up signing for almost the same amount on a non-contender. So this is Ariza’s agent fault…which in turn is Ariza’s fault

  • MagicChicken

    Ariza use to always speak about team, and helping out, and contributing in small ways, whenever he talked to the media. He told us he was a role player, and he played a huge role for us. When it came down to money talk though, he wanted us to pay him more, and felt “disrespected” when he didn’t get all he wanted. If he wanted to play for the Lakers, and make money, he would’ve taken the mid-level, and signed it short, so he could continue to grow and develop as a player, and earn the larger contract. He wanted us to pay him more than he was worth though, and was willing to take the exact same salary we offered him in another place. I wish I could respect his decision more, because like many in LA, I love the guy, but I think he just made a mistake, and now he has to live with it.

  • chintao

    First, Marbury wears green, now this? I can’t believe I now have to stop enjoying watching Artest play. The only way that this could turn-out the way I want is if Ron-Ron and Kobe get in some major scraps. Ballhog-Rapist best watch himself in practice, or it could be broken ribs.

  • Logan

    Also Ariza would have flourished in the triangle and get more visibility on the Lakers which would lead to endorsements. His agent claims Disrespect?? He missed the boat and fked up Trevors chance so he is spouting crap. There was no way LA would have paid more, specially after the big Bynum deal. Also, we still need Lamar back…

  • sab

    agree with Chintao… this is really sad news, cos it’s a great move for the Lakers, and i hate the goddamn Lakers…

  • http://sportzin.com Joey E.

    i was thinking.
    for those who say he’s gonna ruin chemistry, etc.
    he took a pay cut and chose the Lakers. he wasnt traded

    maybe he understands his role?

    just a thought

  • IllWill21

    WOW… Ainge!… Get to work!

  • rav

    IF artest behaves himself this will be an absolute steal for the lakers – and lets give ron some credit, he could have got far more than $6m a year but he’s taking less to win at a much younger age (29) than most players who take discounts to play for winners

  • Rashaan

    WOW Ron Ron to La. Ron will definitely be on best behavior. Kobe Pau Ron= Mike Scottie Dennis. Phil will make sure Ron stays in line. Have different rules for Ron. Cmon Denver.

  • T Money

    So the second biggest basketball team in the world can’t afford an extra 2mil per year? Of course they can. They are gambling that they will be able to get the same production from Artest. But Ron Ron is not a spot up shooter, has lost a couple of steps and commands the ball a lot. I think this will turn out to be a move of Poseyan proportions

  • T Money

    The way I see it, the biggest advantage of Artest over Ariza is the intimidation factor. That will certainly come in handy if the Lakers play the Cavs in next year’s finals.

  • BostonBaller

    This is an excellent trade for LA if for no other reseason Kobe has one less beast to face. Artest drains opponents physically and mentally. Can my Celtics sign Wallace already and move on to get another piece please!!!

  • http://www.realcavsfans.com Anton

    Kobe got a rottweiler to watch the hallway while he does his thang in the hotel room

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    Ariza is dumb, I love him on the Lakers, but for him to sign the same deal he could have gotten with the Lakes is stupid. Ariza still signed for 5.6 million a year. Ariza was not worth more, he still has to work on his game. Artest is a good sign, he will defer to Kobe and all yall punks talking about Kobe watching his back is dumb, Kobe is smart he knows how to reel Artest in and MJ was tough, but Rodman could have beat MJ down anytime he wanted, Rodman wanted to win, thats it. LAKERS 2K10 CHAMPS!!!

  • a_whiteman

    This guarentees la the title, rons antics are small potatoes compared to rodman. Like I said yesterday phil is the ONLY coach that can make this combo work. So did la re sign odom???

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    i’m thinking about this… ron is a better offensive player than ariza, but putting the ball in the basket was never a problem to begin with for LA. he will prolly not score more than 11-12 a game. because they have to feed two 7 footers and kobe. so is ron a btter defensive player than ariza at this point? it’s still a great move because they were going to lose ariza. i don’t know if it is an upgrade for the team, though.

  • T Money

    My thoughts exactly Z. The Lakers don’t need more scoring, but they certainly need the energy on both ends off the bench. How many late game steals/blocks/rebounds/deflections did Ariza get last year?

  • http://www.another48minutes.blogspot.com Gerard Himself

    My bet is Phil Jackson is behind all of this. “Sure, I won 10 championships, but where’s the challenge?”

  • JoNaBo

    Trevor wasn’t anything special. I knew they would’nt mind losing him because he is extremely replaceable. But this is better than I expected.

  • Babygab

    Signing Ron was an amazing move. If he keep his sh*t together the only other team that will be abble to compete with them for the western conference crown is San Antonio. All these contract signings give me jitters. Next season is gonna be pretty nasty. I bet some players like VC might get rejuvanated by the fact they are now playing for contenders. We are going to witness one of them season with major clashes !!!! Watch out !!!

  • lakers4life

    Trevor Ariza

    Courtesy of
    David Lee

  • Alan

    Good way to stop the King in next year’s Finals

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    Mixed feelings about this. For one, Artest’s presence on the team has just doubled the collective testicle count in the Laker locker room, plus he got on admirably well in Houston. But for the Lakers, this is a gamble, as the old cliched adage says, “if it ain’t broke…”

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    damn, Anton and Chintao are always marvelous on Laker stories. And after reading all opinions here, still sticking to my skepticism about this whole thing. I do know the following shall at some point be said in practice: “do you know who you’re fouling? Don’t you know it’s Ron Artest you’re touching”? And i look forward to reading about it.

  • boogster

    @ rob and fut, why on earth do you guys think Ron will fight Kobe? Didn`t he have more reason and motive during this past playoff games, and that never happened.
    Now Kobe is the Ron`s best chance to get a ring, so whupping Kobe`s ass is out of question,instead he will give Kobe more freedom to operate, make it easier for him `doing his job`.
    This year the Kobe vs. Bron thing was absolutely overhyped however next year is different story I really going to enjoy Lakers-Cavs finals.

  • boogster

    By the way, if Bron and Co win the Title next year (ain`t gonna happen) what`s Shaq gonna say, nobody is going to deny that he didn`t help 3 major players to get their rings(remember he need to help Bron 1st), but Shaq couldn`t get a ring without major help?!?!

  • boogster

    *that he helped*- i mean

  • KaponoE

    Dang! Do you realize Kobe and Artest could possibly be the best perimeter defense in the L?

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  • http://ballislife.com Moose

    Next season is going to be really interesting…

  • TS

    They should make a reality tv show of the lakers… featuring Kobe and Ron Ron!

  • http://www.twitter.com/Th3_R3al_Chris Young Chris MP3

    Lakers have a strong hold on the 2010 championship now. Spurs will give them comp if their big-4 stays healthy. Hopefully Lamar Odom won’t be back and it will neutralize things. Cavs and Celtics have some major work to do, though. Rasheed is NOT the answer now.

  • PeeDee

    Bulls vs lakers

    MJ – Kobe

    Goes to: MJ of course but..you know..that doesnt mean that this kobe guy is bad or something

    Ron Harper – Fish

    Goes to: draw…i give ron the D but fish the crunch

    Pip – Odom

    Goes to: Pip…but Odom aint far behind

    Toni – Pau

    goes to: Pau! Toni was a better shoter but pau is better at almost everything else

    and now:

    Worm – Warier

    goes to: uhhhh…this one is difficult. I love ronron to death but the worm was a once-in-lifetime-kind-of-player…but ron can bring some crunchtime offense…and of course will piss of alot of guys. imagine you`re lebron james, wade or joe johnson you have to deal with kobe on one end and with artest on the other, DAMN!!!!

    …and of course

    Phil Jackson – The Zen Master

    goes to: doesent matter, both are the best of their century anyway and guys like ron jeremy, doc and that fat guy screaming from the cavs bench dont hav shit on “the logo” (yeah right, phil jackson inventet KFC!!!)

  • J.B

    ow well, why dont we just lure mr dennis rodman out of retirement.

  • http://www.myspace.com/freedmusic fredd

    too bad they still don’t have a PG

  • melvin

    great move for the lakers to get Artest… he’s a tough guy… a probable defender to other roster star players…L A a super team to beat nezt season…LBJ you’ve met your match…

  • Royal

    I don’t understand why people are saying that ron-ron is a bad team-player ,he has never had any issues with his teammates.

  • basicallyinthenba21

    Phil Jackson better be coming back!

  • jumpman3224

    Actually LA does have a pg…he has four rings. Can any other team say that?

  • http://www2.gsb.columbia.edu/faculty/jstiglitz/ NICK KALATHES

    Great,great move….now we got the only guy in the league that can actually put his body in front of Lebron(and bother him a little bit cause nobody on earth can actually stop “the mutant” at this moment)….if the Lakers stay healthy (and sign Lamar) Kobe will get his 5th ring after a year(and then the kids will start again the silly M.J comparisons….).

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    guys, i hate to break it to you but this is july 2009. ron artest has the rep of a lockdown defender but i done seen brandon roy give him the bidness. kobe-artest on D is not better than kobe-ariza. ariza made turk look very,very mortal.

  • http://www.hoopsmanifesto.blogspot.com Jeff Fox

    Don’t know if I was L.A. I’d trade Ariza for Artest. Ariza is younger and less volatile.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    the seed, you do realize LA wasn’t going to give Trevor that much, right??

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    and it’s amazing how some laker fans turn on Ariza from one day to the next…..i will say this, i always thought Ton would be on his best behavior this past season, but i also thought he would move the ball…i was wrong. He didn’t, except for one game where he refused to shoot…I alos noticed he gambled too much on D and isn’t the “lock down” defender as some of these Laker fans are saying he is…maybe once he was , now not so much, maybe in a lesser role he can go back to it…who knows..

  • http://www2.gsb.columbia.edu/faculty/jstiglitz/ NICK KALATHES

    @RV….: i know. (!!!!!)

  • Mo

    A great move for the Lakers. They basically get the same player they had in Ariza, but Artest is more consitent…this move will prove to be similar in how the Bulls added Dennis Rodman back in 96….A definite repeat is in the horizon for L.A., if not a three-peat…

  • thewize

    Ron Ron can guard Cabron James in the Finals…they didn’t have any trouble with Dwight, why would they have trouble with Shaq. Lakers repeat! hahaha so simple.

  • E.Rod

    I always defended Ron-Ron but not any more. Cant beat them then join them huh? You get elbowed in the throat by Kobe and now he joins his team? He would’ve been better with the cavs so he can help Bron and Shaq beat the Lakers. Hope he punches Kobe or better yet Sasha this season.

  • Jacob

    theres not even a point in playing next season, the Lakers are going to cruise to another championship

  • E.Rod

    Sorry man, Ron CANNOT guard LBJ. NO one in the league can guard him one on one. It took 2, 3 or sometimes the whole defense sagging since his team went cold.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    If Ron Artest is not the second or third leading scorer for the Lakers, something is wrong. Bynum is no where near the level of Artest offensively. Shiiet, Artest has a better POST UP game than Bynum now! Maybe that’s a stretch, but Ron really does have the full package. I can’t understand why people would be skeptical of this move.

  • niQ

    to be honest, i don’t understand why you would change the team if your team JUST won the finals. doesn’t that mean SOMETHING about your team was working proper? but nevertheless, i don’t see this as a downgrade. it’s definitely an upgrade.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    I h@te when people get mad when other people say “so and so can guard LeBron James or Kobe”. OBVIOUSLY LeBron and Kobe are going to get their 20-50 point games. What it means is making them LESS EFFICIENT. Artest is probably the BEST single defender of LeBron James in the NBA, the same way Shane Battier is probably the BEST single defender of Kobe Bryant in the NBA. No wonder Houston might have the best team defense in the NBA, with those two guys.
    Anyways, the most important asset Artest brings in defending LeBron is his strength. No other guard/forward in the league has the strength to keep LeBron from bulldozing through the lane. Not to mention their heights are pretty similar.
    TO E. ROD, ever wonder why LeBron scored 21 points and had 0 assists against the Rockets last season?

  • http://slamonline.com negetivekreep

    People are missing the real headline here.
    Cleveland was going after both Ariza and Artest in hopes to sign one of em. And with the very good possibility of greatly improving thier team and chances of winning a ring next year, all the while only having to fork over a mid-level deal.
    By Making this trade the lakers made sure that niether player would be suiting up for cleveland, thats called 2 birds 1 stone. Yeah it’s hard to say bye to a guy like Ariza who played his role in LA, BUT… Middle finger to Cleveland…AND sign Artest..or, decsions,decisions.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    @ RV: I’m a huge Rockets fan like you are, and I like Ariza a lot. I think the Rockets did a great job of bringing him in after Ron left.
    BUT, there is no freaking way Trevor Ariza is better than Ron Artest. Bet.

  • rav

    niQ: no matter who you are and what you have just done any team can improve – look at 2006 miami, they kept that team pretty much intact the next season and they were nowhere near as good as the year before

  • underdog

    This means two things. Lakers games gonna be even more fun to watch, and Phil needs to stay, otherwise Ron Ron blows the team up.

  • Josh D

    I wonder if this’ll lead LA to rid of Odom(by FA or Trade)

  • http://www2.gsb.columbia.edu/faculty/jstiglitz/ NICK KALATHES

    @Teddy….:some more(ok, A LOT more) solid-rational comments like the one at 1:34pm and i ‘ ll have to downgrade you from the number one spot on my list of the dumbest commenters in SLAMONLINE recent history .Eboy is a distant, (but clear nevertheless),no-2.

  • bill breedley

    i am going to get me a ron ron jersey.

  • Pardeep

    We Gonna win the NEXT 4 now

  • http://slamonline Negetivekreep



    L.A.’s got the answer.

    With a Bynum to trump Clevelands Shaq card tell me, who’s got the squad to match up with this starting 5? A healthy boston?… maybe.
    Get ready for the KOBE dynasty.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    Teddy…i think Ariza is better on the rockets than Ron, without a doubt…I’m not sure what’s up with ron, but he became a jack up shooter here, i guess he always jacked up shots, but he used to take it to the rim and post up more at least, here it was rare. It wouldn’t suprise me if Kobe brought the best out of him, since Ron’s heart skips a beat when he see Kobe…but i definitely would rather have Ariza than in Houston…i’m not too crazy about giving Ariza 5 yrs after one “breakout” season, but we’ll see..

  • boogster

    the reason lakers upgrading ( i`d call it upgrade, Ron will make the team a lot tougher, remember how many times were lakers branded soft) is because every contender in the league started tinkering under the hood, so LA can`t stay same, need to adjust.

  • LexLuther

    RonRon is not an upgrade. Ariza found a role and fit perfectly with what the Lake Show needed. Artest, who cannot guard LeBron James in any sense of the word, isn’t as big an acquisition as Shaq because no matter how old, a motivated, hungry Shaq paired with the most dominant player in the NBA means Championship. Plain and simple.

  • http://www.rich-imaging.com Dutch Rich

    To all dissin Ron for jacking up shots I would say, who on the healthy rockets team where the 3rd and 4th offensive options. So after the main 2 guys went down Ron pretty much by default had to carry the offensive load. A roll that he has never had to play. I was surprised at how much of a threat he turned out to be. His slashing game is something he should stay away from since he gets contested too much. Perimeter and post -up game is solid.
    This will be a great improvement for Kobe’s game as well based on the rise of intensity in practice alone. Brilliant move by Kupchak.

  • http://slamonline Blaze

    Hedo to Portland, and Iverson maybe to the Grizz!! Wow, Grizz are suddenly looking like a playoff team. Look better than 2/3 of Texas teams and 3/4 of Calif. teams. Also look as good if not better then the Hornets.

  • yaway

    Why would the Lakers want to change their championship lineup.

  • http://www2.gsb.columbia.edu/faculty/jstiglitz/ NICK KALATHES

    “Blaze….:Iverson to the Grizz!! Wow,Grizz are suddenly looking like a playoff team.look bett….” yeap, these are my kids…you just made my night!! by the way:(@everybody) tell me another forum when you can get jewels like this comment.Seriously,tell me….(it is so perfectly written that i suspect that it is intentional or that it is actually Eboy or Tedddy using another nickname…)

  • http://slamonline.com J Dizzle

    Teddy-the-bear: no wonder you’re such a Laker hater, your a rockets fan. It all makes sense now. I really hate to see Ariza go, especially to a Yao-less Rockets squad. Why not take the lesser amount and stay on a championship team? Your agent really screwed up here, and as great as you were on the Lakers, I just don’t see you with the same kind of success in Houston. Good luck though, Ariza played his heart out in LA and I hope he does well next season. As a Laker fan, I was really skeptical about this news. Ariza was the man to LA fans this season, definitely a fan favorite. And getting Artest is a double-edged sword. He has great defense, but he is just so unpredictable at times. But honestly, he just wants to win. A hungry player like that can only make the Lakers better if he plays his best and doesn’t become a distraction. Like I said, I was skeptical at first, but now this looks like a good move for the Lakers (given that Ariza was on his way out anyway.) With Kobe and Ron on the same squad, the Laker’s defense will increase greatly. If Bynum finally comes out of his shell and gets more aggressive on D, I think the Lakers will look very scary this year.

  • Silverselectjd

    yaway, the lakeshow didnt want to change their lineup, but Ariza’s agent believed his boy was worth more, so if you got a specific amount of cash and some1 like Ron-Ron was willing to take it, then who would say no? Less D pressure on 24 means more output on O for 24! The race for 5 rings is on baby!!!

  • Peter B

    I’m amazed by the trades that are taking place, next season is gearing up to be a classic. 2010 laker’s = 1996 Bulls = 70 wins.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    @ J Dizzle: Yeah I sort of disliked the Lakers this postseason, but I’ve always kind of liked Kobe. Sure, I wanted to watch Ron Artest beat the cr@p out of him in Game 2 (minus the suspension part), but I’ve always respected his game. I sometimes like the Lakers, and I sometimes don’t lol.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    I’ll say my prediction again:
    With a big 3 consisting of Kobe Bryant, Pau Gasol, and Ron Artest, the Lakers are going to win next year’s championship. Then with the same core, they are going to threepeat. And then some.

  • mike

    I liked this move, with all the other Shaq, Carter, RJ trades going on around the NBA, this give lakers more chance to win back to back championship.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com/ RV

    Jdizzle, how did he mess up? He got his ring, looks like he wants personal achievements now, he got paid more than LA was willing to give him, this is a job afterall, money talks.

  • Canuck

    Hedo is heading to Toronto by the way.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    This whole situation in the NBA with the upcoming 2010 free agency period is really freaking annoying. Its ruining basically 80% of the NBA’s teams. All the talent from the lower 80% is getting moved to the upper 20%, where teams like LA, Orlando, and Cleveland are having a realistic shot at EACH cracking 70 wins. The rest of the 80% aren’t getting anywhere near the title now because they’re all mailing in the season.
    All these teams are essentially mailing in their next season while chasing after an impressive free agent market. What these teams don’t realize is that there’s only so many great free agents versus way more teams.
    Watch, after 2010, so many teams are going to be totally screwed over because they didn’t get Dwayne Wade or Chris Bosh, or LeBron. We’re talking about majorly facked up for maybe the next decade.

  • http://www.associatedcontent.com/user/482871/cj_king.html CJK

    Cosign Teddy-the-bear… LA is going to be good but now i think the locker room is going to be too small for these egos. Doesn’t anybody remember ron ron and kobe elbowing each other’s throats in the playoffs???

  • http://slamonline.com J Dizzle

    @RV: Yea he got his ring, and he got his contract. But he didn’t get THAT much more than he would’ve in LA. He’s making $33.5 mil over 5 years. That’s 6.7 million a year. That’s a little over a million a year than the Lakers wanted to give him. That’s a lot of money to you and I, but come on. That’s chump change if you really want to win a championship. BUT that’s not even why he left, according to his agent: “I told Mitch that it was never about the money; it was about respect.” That’s a quote from his agent. Go read the Yahoo! top sports story to see for yourself. Personal achievement? I’m sure he can’t to to pad his stats with a now defunct Houston team. So I stand by what I said. Unless Ariza is completely satisfied after next season (hmmmm… not lookin good in Houston lol) I will stand by my statement.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    ^ J, the Rockets are still going to make the playoffs.

  • HighYE

    I used to feel that after each bball season kupchak went on his extended vacations. Especially after the kobe-shaq championships with the exception of bringing in payton and malone. Now his worth his millions working hard to sign artest! Oh, mitch time to work a little harder and sign lamar!

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    Great, just found out Kobe’s gonna be visiting Asia (including the ‘Pore where i now live) sometime later this month on official business for Nike. On the one hand, i have connections to Nike Asia and i’m sure i could squeeze out a short meet and greet with him, on the other hand…I CAN’T STAND THE MAMBIATCH! Still, my best friend back in Europe is the ultimate Kobe fan and would die for any memorabilla i could get straight from the man himself. Photos, vids, autograph, anything would make him convulse with pride. What to do, what to do…? This is the first time i haven’t immediately leapt at the opportunity to meet a real life Nba player (and i’ve met a lot of em in person). Crap.

  • http://twitter.com/f0rever24 Eddie

    Ron Artest is obviously a great pick up for the
    purple and gold. Yes he does bring some baggage to LA but I’m sure Phil knows how to deal with Artest. He had a former player by the name of Dennis Rodman who was also a head case. But the result of Rodman and Jordan are self explanatory. Ron brings a physical nastyness that will look after Kobe (as Rodman did for Jordan) The benefits of having Artest will bring fortune to the Lakers. Kobe’s getting older (30) and Artest has the ability to now guard the opponents best offensive player (as Kobe would have done if Ron wasn’t signed). Saves Kobe energy for the offensive side of the court. The Lakers have been critized for being a “soft” team – I would like to hear them say that now. I smell another ring – REPEAT.!

  • jumpman3224

    As a Lakers fan, I hope that Ariza has a good career in Houston.

  • http://Nicekicks.com Hollywud15

    yet another player that I will be forced to root against after years of support. it was nice knowing u Ron…

  • Superman_Osman

    You gotta have BALLZ to elbow Ron Artest then politely ask him to play for your orginization!

  • http://myspace.com/edilvia_da_best edilvia4sho

    Bryant, and Artest?? In any case The Lakers are def still the number 1 team after this move.

  • http://slamonline.com J Dizzle

    Darksaber, if you have the chance, why not?! You may hate him, but you can’t deny his talent and the fact that he’s an MVP and 4 time champ. I think you should hook your friend up with some Kobe stuff, that would surely make his day and then some. Hell, get 2 autographs and put one on ebay so you have some personal incentive as well lol. Teddy, I wasn’t saying they won’t make it to the playoffs, but without Yao and Ron (even with Ariza) I don’t see them making it out of the first round. Who knows though, maybe we can see another good Lakers/Rockets series if the Rockets are able to stay strong.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    @ Darksaber: Lol as much as you h@te Kobe, I’m pretty sure he’s great guy to the fans. Otherwise he wouldn’t be endorsing Nike in the public, you know, where fans would see him. Go for it!
    @ J Dizzle: I know what you mean. With Ron and Yao the Rockets would have been top 5 title contenders in the league…
    Actually, I think Yao has a shot at being back after All-Star weekend, and with minimum number of games played, he’ll be fresh for the playoffs. I hope.

  • K

    this has nothin to do w/ this….but steve mcnair has been found dead w/ a gunshot wound to the head along w/ a female…seems to be homicide….damn

  • husky

    this just in!!!!!!!!!!!!

    kobe has been traded to bulls for greg oden, kirk hinrich, and 2010 1st round pick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • iLL wiLL

    What’s an Artest?

  • chazz michael michaels

    RIP Michael Jackson

  • http://http//www.youtube.com The Promise

    I’m feeling a repeat.

  • http://Egotastic.com Michael

    This a great trade for the Lakers. Ron is a upgrade over Ariza. He’s a better more physical defender, and he can hit an open three just as well. People keep bringing up his bad shot selection, but that won’t happen in La because unlike in Sacramento or Houston the ball wont be in his hands. As for Ariza, i really like the guy but going to Houston was a bad move. The only other place he would have the same type of sucess he had in La is Clevland. He won’t be getting those shots in Houston.

  • oncloudz909

    This is not a good trade for the Lake show. First, the only reason the lakers won the title was because they had the best record and had home court during the playoffs. Now, Ron is the type of player who NEEDS his shine and glory. Who is going to give up their FGA’s for him? There will be games next season where it comes down to Ron being a team player or being selfish. He will inevitably be selfish because when come from the “gutter” that is the way you have to be. By Ron being himself it will cost L.A. 6-8 close games next season denying them the best record in the L and consequently not securing home court throughout next season’s playoffs, meaning no repeat. Which ever team has home court through out next season’s playoffs wins the trophy.

  • TyF

    Bye Trevor – you should fire your agent. Houston’s best player left is Shane Battier – you know, the 6-8 small forward? Have fun on the bench dreaming about all the open shots you used to get while Kobe and Pau were doubled. Numnutz.

  • E.Rod

    Wow. Comments from anyone calling themselves Teddy carry no weight. Make up your mind front runner. You like the rockets and have a man crush on Kobe.

  • http://www.slamonline.com wayno

    Gives the Lakers the one guy in the league who might be able to check LeBron and slow him down just a tiny bit. Artest is BIG upgrade. Kobe and Artest gaurding the peremiter is a scary prospect…

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Right, because a screen name of E.Rod totally makes you a real O.G. Whoa, you must have major street cred with your Orange County posse! Dumb@ss.

  • al

    The Lakers will not miss Ariza, although they could regret getting Artest. The only one they really need to stay is Odom

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  • http://www.shoenut.blogspot.com ShoeNut

    Great pickup. Lakers needed more physical presence in the low post and Artest definitely provides that. Just don’t throw beer on him and everything will be fine!

  • http://erica@boldazmedia.com erica dacosta

    yes we needed a big man but i dont know if we made the best choice in artest but he made the hungry statement of he wants a ring bad just dont come to my town acting a fool.lakers have had enough no more jr riders and others around here.

  • http://erica@boldazmedia.com erica dacosta

    oyea to al lamar might have really stepped up alot but to be honest with u we should have gotten rid of his sometimely butt.\

  • brandon