Friday, August 28th, 2009 at 11:30 am  |  99 responses

Billy King on Iverson: Buyer Beware

A.I.’s former GM warns that bringing in the free agent guard may not be such a wise move: “King, a former national defensive player of the year at Duke, spent 10 seasons in the Sixers’ front office, eventually trading Iverson to the Nuggets. ‘Everything is about Allen, and it can’t all be about Allen at this point in his career,’ King said. ‘He’s no longer that intimidating figure who can just blow by everybody. So he’s got to do other things, and I’m not sure he will…(Iverson’s) personality is to say, ‘I can still do this. I can take all the shots and stay out late and do everything I did in my 20s,’ King described.”

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  • AllenI

    Damn it!

  • tavoris

    this stinks.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Blinguo

    Mudslinging a long gone player like this was an election year.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    Sometimes, saying what you feel in a public forum is a b-tch move. How does that impact your life that he’ll get a job somewhere else? Unless there’s a vendetta going on…

  • http://Www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    Say it with me (in the shrieky italian voice of sideshow Bob’s son in one of the best simpson’s episodes): Vendetta, vendetta, vendettaaaa..

  • Keyser Soze

    His opinion is PROBABLY true – but its f.ucked up that he said it out loud like this. Like “Z” said, there really isn’t anything for this loser to gain by throwing Iverson under the bus. This is the worst time to use the race card, but black people stay throwing each other under the bus. He didn’t have to say this about him, what good could come out of it.

    I hope Billy King gets into a car accident.

  • http://Odebu@gmx.net Darksaber

    Slimeball move by an inept ex GM. It’s not like the nba teams interested in AI don’t know his pros & cons. He’s already got a horrible rep from the Pistons fiasco, why didn’t Billy talk then? Now that negotiations are getting serious he pulls this move. Vendetta, vendetta, veeerndetta (scream it like sideshow bob’s kid did in the Simpson’s Italia episode)

  • http://www.twitter.com/Th3_R3al_Chris Young Chris MP3

    HATER!

  • http://www.twitter.com/Th3_R3al_Chris Young Chris MP3

    HATER!

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    Slimeball move by an inept ex GM. It’s not like the nba teams interested in AI don’t know his pros & cons. He’s already got a horrible rep from the Pistons fiasco, why didn’t Billy talk then? Now that negotiations are getting serious he pulls this move. Vendetta, vendetta, vendetta! (scream it like sideshow bob’s kid did in the Simpson’s Italia episode)

  • tavoris

    Billy King’s “talent & skill” as a GM was proven long ago when he gave Todd McCollough a long-term deal.

  • BostonBaller

    Do we know whether King was asked the question or if he just rattled of this comment? If a Question about the Answer was asked of him he could have taken the high road and said no comment or thanked Iverson for years of great play in Philly (and keeping him in a job.) Cheap jabs turn to bitter biting when it comes from someone like King.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    So is this a question of whether he was being untruthful or if he was being truthful and just shouldnt have said it? Cause I agree with him.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Blinguo

    Hey check that out too, Karl agreeing they got better in Denver, but yeah didn’t hit the home run, also didn’t talk about the D word that showed up last season-his “new approach”, and toned down quite a bit from the good riddance spin the headlines read on the Billups trade aftermath – Karl liking Billups soo much better.

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    What a slimeball. Inept ex GM bashing AI now? Where was he in April during the Detroit fiasco? Now he’s close to a deal, out comes Billy. What’s the word of the year 2009 so far? Ah yes, Douche.

  • JoelFitz

    BostonBaller you are so correct. Iverson was the ONLY reason that King kept his job for so long. Without AI the Sixers would have been, well, about as good as they are now… There is a reason why serious Sixers fans shudder at the mention of King’s name.

  • jdote

    tbe thing is when billy king got fired in philly.. ai was asked about it.. and he said all the right things.. said he wished him the best.. billy king does the exact opposite.. says all the wrong things.. kills him for nothing.. i hate billy king and the sixers brass

  • http://www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    Again, Billy Kings questionable career aside, is he lying? Is he wrong?

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    Seen your opinion of Iverson enough on the top 50 piece, Myles. No need to fish around for confirmation of stated opinion. He’s difficult, everyone who pays attention sees that. Billy had lots of time to bash, why now?

  • jdote

    i believe he is wrong…billy king constructed awful teams in philly..especially after larry brown left.. who was he suppose to make better.. one leg c web… is deron williams makin kyle korver into a complete player.. dudes a bench player now… and dont get me started on samuel dalembert… the only player he should’ve made better was andre igoudala.. but igs was young, and c web still was jackin up shots and shootin at a 40 percent clip..he doesn’t throw up 20 shots a game n e more.. only shot 20 plus shots in 9 out of 57 games last yr..

  • http://www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    As Boston Baller said, it was probably in response to a question and not just him slandering from the rooftops unprovoked. And of course hes difficult, but before he was worth the risk whereas now teams think hes not, which is what King was speaking to. I dont consider it bashing.

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  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    He answered a question.
    Just like Shaq answers questions about Kobe.
    That’s all there is to it. Just a man answering questions.
    Plus, if it’s actually true, well then what’s the big deal? Right?

  • DJK

    Anyone else reminded of when Randy Moss’ old coach at Oakland said he wasn’t good anymore and then Moss broke the single season touchdown record that season?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    Right.

  • http://youtube.com/pyrobooby tealish

    Meh, could care less at this point. I’m not surprised by any of this overwhelming hate for the guy anymore. I’m just waiting for him to get back into a good situation where he has the chance to show everyone he’s still got it.

  • http://www.twitter.com/from_the_chi Bryan Crawford

    I guess if anybody knows Allen Iverson and can speak on him, it’s Billy King right? He didn’t say anything that wasn’t true and he certainly didn’t say anything that the other GM’s don’t already know. It doesn’t diminish AI in any way as a player, his dopeness is certified… but real is real.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    Myles, Allenp (not sure if you’re sarcastic). Sometimes, just saying ‘that you answered a question’ is a cop out when you know it will affect someone else in a bad way. If you re-read my comment, I don’t object to anything King said. But that’s half the story.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    Real is real. Situational judgment is situational judgment?

  • Clipp Show 714

    Cosign Z. No need to bash him while he’s trying to get a job somewhere else. F#ck Billy King.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    While Billy King is a credible source when it comes to the perceived character flaws of Allen Iverson, as its been mentioned hes still Billy King and I dont think his statements will affect AI’s employment status. Its not like he said this the day before free agency started.

  • http://fdjsklf.com Jukai

    Aw f that, I get what Myles is saying, but huge b*tch move on Billy Kings part. The ‘professional’ response was to be “I don’t want to comment because my opinion may or may not be true and it’s not my place right now.”

  • http://www.twitter.com/from_the_chi Bryan Crawford

    Don’t believe the hype…nothing that Billy King says is going to affect AI getting a job somewhere. If a GM wants to sign him, he knows what he’s getting himself and his team into. But, to go along with the “Billy King is a hater” theme of the thread… DUCK FUKE!!

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Z
    I was being VERY sarcastic.
    Cause we all know how Myles reacts when Shaq answers questions about Kobe.
    To brush off the comments with “well, is it true?” seems a little shady to me.
    Does King make some good points, sure. Is everything he said in that article true, of course not. Do Billy King and George Karl, the two people quoted in the article, have personal biases that might affect how they view Allen Iverson, why yes they do.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    The thrust of this post was that Billy King, and George Karl, are “warning” people about signing Iverson.
    Personally, I wonder how King and the media would react if players began “warning” teams about hiring particular coaches or GMs.
    Would that be seen as unacceptable or perfectly fine?
    Actually, I’m pretty sure how that would be received.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    Sigh. Equaiting Shaq with Billy King, or Shaq with anyone outside of Pinnochio is a bit shady.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    And arent there already similar remarks about GMs and coaches? Kevin McHale? Isiah Thomas? Don Nelson? Donald Sterling? Mike Dunleavy? Hell, Michael Jordan? And Id like to think that I or anyone else would treat the situation similarly. “Is it true?”

  • http://www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    So regardless of what personal biases King or Karl may have, its readily apparent that several other GMs feel similarly with or without the aforementioned biased parties input.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Similar remarks from PLAYERS.
    How often do you hear a player bash a coach or GM and not get reamed by the media?
    As far as King or Karl’s comments being true, that depends on your perspective on some of the issues.
    King basically says that Iverson’s skills are declining and he must reshape his game. True enough. He then says he doubts AI has the mental ability or dedication to do that.
    Well, that’s truly Billy King’s opinion, but does that mean it’s what’s going to happen?
    Like I said, King made some assessments I agree with. But, the idea that Billy King is “warning” people not to sign with Iverson bothers me. That is shady.
    On Shaq
    Many people believe Shaq’s criticisms of Kobe are true. You think Shaq lacks credibility and should keep his thoughts to himself.
    How are the situations any different?

  • http://www.hoopsvibe.com/christopher_sells-authorHV106.html chiqo

    he’s got a right to his opinion. and with his being his gm, albeit a terrible one, he has more insight than any of us. so i give him a pass. after all, the man does get paid for his basketball opinion and that’s what he gave.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Myles
    I didn’t know we were debating whether or not the market for Iverson’s services was depressed. If that was the argument, then you win, it is. That’s obvious from the fact that only three or four teams have expressed any interest in signing him.
    It seemed to me that the argument was about whether King’s comments were appropriate.
    You seemed to be saying “They are true, so it’s fine.” I disagree. I don’t see how the fact that other people agree with King has anything to do with whether or not his comments are acceptable.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Chiqo
    Billy King is not a GM. He also signed Samuel Dalembert, Kyle Korver and Willie Green to massive deals.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    Because Billy King is speaking on one person in a relatively respectful manner. Shaq has something to say about everyone, not just Kobe, and its usually waay over the line. Cmon now.

  • duncan21

    That’s fucked up by Billy king to talk shit about another player like that. Makin his chances harder at picking up another paycheck

  • tavoris

    Myles, that’s a nice way of sugarcoating the sh&t that Billy King spewed. Kicking a man (who’s only spoken either positively or diplomatically about you) when he’s down is TRUE COWARDICE. The good thing is that King is now a confirmed slimeball, and not just a rumored one.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Pardeep

    First of all what he said might not even be true at all. But how wrong to do that at this time. Whats it to him where Iverson goes? But one things for sure Iverson is going to have to prove a looooooooot of people wrong next year.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Myles
    You saw it as relatively respectful. I didn’t.
    I’ll admit that Shaq is disrespectful, but that wasn’t your original comment. Your original response was basically, “well it’s true?”
    We agree that King’s comments had some veracity, the question was did he need to make them? At least that was the question in my mind. More importantly, did he need to make them they way he did.
    There are ways to say what King said without being as nasty as he got in that article.
    Just like there are ways to call Kobe a shady, lame loser without talking like Shaq.

  • http://www.nuggets1.blogspot.com tremaine

    Iverson brought King’s 76′ers from worst team in the League to one of the better ones. And now the Slime Ball King has to sling the slime at him.

    Oh well, A.I. will definitely be in the Basketball Hall of Fame, whereas King, Karl, and all the other Iverson haters will never be seriously considered for it. You have to be in the BHOF if you want to go down in basketball history as one of the greatest. Slime balls need not apply to the BHOF.

  • http://www.slamonline.com myles brown

    I just don’t understand this kicking him while he’s down angle. The only reason he’s down in the first place is due his own actions and words. He refuses to accept a secondary role and is under reasonable suspicion of giving up/quitting on his team last year. A reporter asked King for his assesment of the situation and he provided an honest answer. He proclaimed Iverson to be one of if not the toughest player in the league but also proclaimed him to be one of the toughest to manage. His resilency works for him in some cases but is to his detriment in others. Is that really so disrespectful?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    It just seems like people are claiming that King did this with the impression that he was capable of keeping Iverson from landing a job and that it was his sole intention. I dont see it that way.

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