Tuesday, August 11th, 2009 at 9:30 am  |  76 responses

Ricky Rubio’s ‘Problematic’ Buyout

The following quote will not exactly help the T-Wolves sell tickets: “I believe his representatives are working diligently to get a solution. I have no idea at this point whether a solution can be reached. But I believe we kind of know what the parameters are and I think that we have a chance,’ Kahn said Monday after announcing that Lakers assistant Kurt Rambis will be the team’s next head coach. ‘But I wouldn’t even begin to state the percentage toward that chance of this being accomplished this season versus next season or even two seasons. It’s still very problematic.”‘

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  • Teddy-the-Bear

    I said most NBA point guards, Jukai. Shoot, an average player (right now) in a developing Nick Young has like 10 X the athleticism of Ricky Rubio.

  • Stephen Jackson

    whoa! apparently I’m Stephen Jackson, with an email of sjax@hotmail.com. but in reality, I’m vmcb.

  • vmcb

    The Rubio hate here is getting out of hand. I really find it hard to agree with anything that Teddy has been saying, as all he’s been doing is spouting out claims of unathletism and poor jumper. The part about his jumper is true, but the kid is younger than the majority of posters on this site. I really agree with Bryan’s assessment of Rubio’s athletism, though. Unathletic in the obvious way (ala booming on suckahs), but sneaky athletic with his quickness and body control.

  • danny

    Rubio is like 6’3 and can barely dunk. That’s where unathletic comes from. LOL. By the way, his defense isn’t stellar at all, getting steals isn’t the same as playing good d sorry say. He’s garbage.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Co-sign danny.
    Dude, vmcb, Rubio is NOT that quick.

  • http://fdjsklf.com Jukai

    Teddy: If you said “most” than you’re even dumber than I gave you credit for. Nick Young is an above average athlete and I would not say he is that much faster or stronger than Rubio. I will note that he only seems to have two sets of speed, making Rubio’s lateral motion and change of speed superior to Young’s. With that in mind, one could argue Rubio is a better athlete.
    But he’s white, so, you know…

  • http://fdjsklf.com Jukai

    Danny: Rubio is 6’4 (and people say he appeared closer to 6’5 at the draft camp) and he’s been able to dunk since he was 15… I saw him do it watching U16 highlights.
    His defense IS insane, on the European level, hence the UNEXPLAINABLE ACB DPOY which you’ve yet to address. The question is, will his all-team defense translate to the NBA, which is debatable. Saying he’s a garbage defender shows that your IQ level is pretty much equal to the number of fingers and toes you have.

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    Jukai Posted: Aug.11 at 1:20 pm
    I mean, I think Rubio deserves a lot of crap for ruining his draft situation. People should hate on him pretty hard for that.
    But why did Rubio suddenly shrink five inches and become a sucky defender?
    ____
    People said the same things about Michael Beasley…
    O_o
    PING!

  • chintao

    “I personally had the opportunity to put Ricky through a workout, and I think….” Actually, nobody here has a true understanding of the guy’s athleticism or how he will fare in the L. We all have opinions on how good he will be based upon incomplete information and scant observation. Reviewing the arguments, I can’t see how one opinion here is more valid than another. That said, I believe that Ricky won’t be anything special IF he ever makes the jump to the NBA. I admit that I am taking the cheap way out. Based purely on odds, Ricky (or anyone else) being a superstar is a long shot.

  • http://fdjsklf.com Jukai

    Chintao: Could one say the same thing about Lebron or Kobe?

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Jukai, saying Rubio is more athletic than Nick Young might be the most farfetched and exaggerated comment you’ve ever made in your life. Actually, its not. But pretty close. Something that dumb had to have been a joke. Tell me it was a joke..

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    I mean, seriously, you must have been defending Detroit’s draft pick of Darko Milicic for like 2 years until you saw how much of a bust he was. Lol.

  • http://yahoo.com Logues

    jukai: did u really just compare rubio coming into the league to lebron coming into the league? cmon, brons talent was crazy, there was no doubt he was gonna be really good. i, being from minnesota, hope the twolves trade rubio, i think flynn will be better

  • http://fdjsklf.com Jukai

    Teddy: First off, you think Allen Iverson was better than Stockton. And that’s all I really gotta say.
    Logues: Please read what Chintao said. His sole logic was that “most people don’t achieve stardom” and I said “well, if that’s your sole logic, then you probably would say Lebron wouldn’t be a star either.”
    Please read everything before responding.

  • http://yahoo.com Logues

    Jukai: well since he said “most people,” that does not mean everyone. and i think its dumb cause brons talent was unlike anyone elses, way better than most people, and even with what chintao said, if you didnt think bron was gonna be a star, well thats just stupid

  • http://fdjsklf.com Jukai

    Logues: … do… do you really not understand why I said that?
    He meant most players wont be allstars, so statistically Rubio wont. I mean, it would be hard for me to explain this any other way.

  • http://yahoo.com Logues

    yes i understand. but if hes sayin that statiscally rubio wont be good, well then of course it goes for kobe and bron statiscally too. this really sucks to explain on the internet

  • Son of Shawn

    It would be great if only spoke those who really have seen this kid playin´ bball (twenty games or so), because I don´t give a f+ck for the opinions of those who only watched the Olimpics Final.
    A list of not very athletic players: Maravich, Bird, Stockton, Mark Jackson, Rip Hamilton, Alex English, Mullin, Reggie Miller, Billups, Cassell… as can you see, a bunch of losers (sarcasm), but hey! Gerald Green, Nate Rob and James White jump a lot.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    @ Myles: just because a statement fits a racial stereotype doesn’t make it untrue. Stockton was white and definitely unathletic by NBA standards and it is not racist to say so. Rubio is the same way. I am not Eboy btw.

  • tavoris

    Jukai…sory for being so late to respond, but I think the major part where Johnny Flynn is at an advantage is his LACK OF EGO. Rubio’s not wanting to play in Minny (a la Steve Francis) is gonna be a HUGE distraction. Imagine how the cornerstone of the team-Al Jefferson-probably feels about that. Rubio appears to already think he’s the future of the NBA, when in fact he’s not even the most important player on his TEAM.

  • tavoris

    Jukai…sory for being so late to respond, but I think the major part where Johnny Flynn is at an advantage is his LACK OF EGO. Rubio’s not wanting to play in Minny (a la Steve Francis) is gonna be a HUGE distraction. Imagine how the cornerstone of the team-Al Jefferson-probably feels about that. Rubio appears to already think he’s the future of the NBA, when in fact he’s not even the most important player on his TEAM.

  • tavoris

    Teddy, it isn’t even fair to put Nick Young in any discussion regarding athleticism, as he’s one of the more athletic 2 guards in the ENTIRE league (no endorsement on how good a player he is). Average athleticism would probably be described in a player like Danny Granger or Mike Miller or Beno Udrih or Anthony Carter.

  • chintao

    @ Jukai ==> Rubio’s talent seems more suspect Bron’s was at the time. Therefore, the stats may be more applicable to him. Kobe? I can’t really recall how it was for him. It may be an applicable comparison in terms of difficulty of quantifying talent. Still, I think you might agree that there’s somewhat more risk attached to Rubio. He has to make a cultural transition, as well as an adjustment to a different style of play.

  • caoneidaren

    I don’t know too much about NBA.But I like Rubio,and I will support him forever!

  • caoneidaren

    Support Rubio!

  • Pkike

    well, I don´t know why you don´t face the evidence that Rubio is, for now, one of the highest level european PG’s in Europe, I just wanna say that he, by the exception of Jose Manuel Calderon, is the starting PG in the Spanish Team ( the only one in history that scored more than 100 points to USA Team) and if most NBA players accept him as one of the, probably, best PG’s in the future, why don’t you think for a moment you’re wrong? I’m half Spaniard and half American and I think your problem, as I’ve seen there, is that you are always talking about jumping, athletism of players and all this stuff. Just check that BBall is more than that, you need to be smart, and to face your rivals whith experience. I bet all you there’s no 20 years old player in the Usa with half of the high level experience of Rubio. College? Why not being the most explosive PG in the ACB (that is considered the seconde best BBall league in the world)?

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