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Friday, August 7th, 2009 at 11:00 am  |  151 responses

Iverson to Miami Rumor Still Has Life

It just refuses to die: “Allen Iverson might still prove to be a free agent answer for the Miami Heat. Apparently, Heat president Pat Riley hasn’t abandoned his interest or pursuit of the 10-time NBA All-Star and former league MVP just yet. According to a source close to Iverson (pictured right) on Thursday, Riley reached out to the 10-time NBA All-Star recently to let him know that the Heat “has continued interest in (Iverson’s) services” and also that Miami ‘could be a great opportunity for us.”‘

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  • http://4point0show.com/ Wes

    That’s a lot of scoring in that backcourt.

  • rikson

    Great!!! Sign 2 undersized SGs who need the ball all the time, and cant really play PG! That has to bring success…

  • http://www.myspace.com/linkstigatorkevin Kevin Wilson

    Every Iverson rumor has life, because he’s a good pickup for a lot of teams. He’s going to come way cheaper than originally anticipated, and he’s still got a lot in the tank.

  • rikson

    …sarcasm…

  • King David

    He should go to thee knicks

  • Felix

    Kevin is exactly right… has there ever been another top 50 player that could be had this cheap?

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Cheryl

    Can Ivey be the “good soldier”? If he can, I’d love to have him on the Heat. It would do him a world of good, and grant him another 2-3years of a playing career if he comes to South Beach, causes no problems, and offers the team 12 -15 points a game in 10-12 minutes a game. If all those big ‘ifs’ can come together for AI, he’d be a welcomed sight in the black and red.

  • http://www.slamonline.com wayno

    You know he’s not gonna settle for 10-12 minutes though. He complained about getting 18 minutes off the bench in the first game back from an “injury”. He’s either gonna want starters minutes or quit. I hate it when players can’t accept the fact that they are declining. If he’d just take on a diminished role he’d be a valuable asset to a team.

  • http://www.nba.com Pardeep

    People on here know I am an A.I. fan but this is scary. I dont want this at all this backcourt is going to clash. Then once Miami does not make the playoffs people are going to blame Iverson.

  • http:///www.realcavsfans.com Anton

    Miami’s casino lobbyists are keeping this rumor alive.

  • eolufemi

    Great and inexpensive pick-up for Miami. They still need another big, but to get 20 and 6 vet for $5 million, you can’t pass that up. Especially one that’s extremely motivated to not only win, but prove he can fit in with a contending team.

  • http://thesportsdiaryonline.blogspot.com Roy

    Not sure if Iverson can really fit in the Heat’s system IMO…

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    lol @ Pardeep.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    @ Cheryl: Are you CRAZY? 10-12 minutes a game? For a guy who still plays at an All-Star level? WHY SHOULD HE? Wow, can you imagine what Michael Jordan would do if the Wizards told him to come off the bench for 10-12 minutes? That’s ridiculous!

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    @ wayno: Ya’ know, maybe that’s because he’s still good enough to start? Ever thought of that? Yeah, that would be why.

  • http://www.slamonline.com wayno

    c’mon teddy, the guy can’t play a shred of defense, isn’t a PG, and can’t carry the offensive load anymore. He can still give 20-25 or so productive minutes off the bench but he’s too much of a baby to to accept that. Also, comparing him to MJ in ANY way shape or form is absolutely insane. MJ was dropping 20+ ppg at 40 years old. Oh yeah…he also won 6 championships in case you forgot and is widely considered the greatest baller of all time…AI, not so much.

  • http://www.slamonline.com wayno

    Many great players have accepted diminshed roles so they could win (Gary Payton being a prime example). If AI can suck it up and do that, then he might be lucky enough to win won. The ONLY way he is going to win is if he plays behind a guy like D-Wade and maybe shares some minutes off the bench at PG. Give him 20-25 minutes to be that spark plug scorer and that would really cement his career as a HOFer. Any team willing to make him thier starting SG probably isn’t good enough to win, unless the Clippers or Grizzlies have some kind of trick up thier sleeve.

  • http://www.slamonline.com wayno

    Also, I’m curious as to why NO contenders are even taking a second look at him if he’s still as great as you think he is?

  • http://nba.com tealish

    @wayno: You’ve completely missed the point. AI in 2009 has more left in the tank than MJ in his Wizard days. And it’s not just the age thing.
    It’s about the right situation. The Wiz let Jordan do his thing. The Pistons asked Ivy to be Lindsay Hunter.

  • tavoris

    some people you just KNOW will be spewing their vitriol in any AI thread. If you don’t like the dude, stop reading about him…there are plenty of other articles on Slamonline about the players whose testicular scent you prefer.

  • http://www.slamonline.com wayno

    tealish, I’m not debating that AI is unable to contribute. He’s a good player and could really help a team, but there is no way he’s good enough to be “the guy” on a contending team anymore. He’s either gonna end up a starter on a mediocre/bad team or an awesome 6th man on a contender. I’ll pose the same question to you…why have NO contenders been looking to add him if he’s still good enough to start?

  • http://www.slamonline.com wayno

    Tavoris, I’m not “spewing vitriol”, I’m not hating on him at all. I’ve repeatedly said that he’s good enough to help a team out.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    @ wayno: Dude, just no. You ARE h@ting on him. Seriously, you obviously don’t know how much gas Iverson has left in the tank.
    Co-sign Tealish.

  • http://www.slamonline.com wayno

    Way to avoid the question teddy…please show me the list of contenders clammoring for him to be thier starting PG/SG…Detroit was absolutely a bad situation for him, but him taking a diminished role is his ONLY shot at winning a ring. If he can swallow his pride enough to do that, then he’ll go down in NBA history as a winner. If not, he’ll just go on that list of player that were really really good, but not good enough to win it all.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    @ wayno: Umm, excuse me? Charles Barkley was really really good, but not good enough to win it all. Does that mean he’s not a Greatest 50 Player? Thanks.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    And yes, I dodged your question like a swift politician.

  • tavoris

    receive it if it applies to you. AI is clearly too good a player to “settle” for 10-12 minutes a night. I know you mentioned he plays NO defense. is that true? Sure, he’s not All-Defense team worthy (but was Lebron? Wade? Paul? really?), but he has too much competitive drive to jus ALLOW people to score on him. Why the Knicks are stil in their 2010 delusion and unwilling to sign him is CRAZY.

  • tavoris

    wayno, they aren’t looking to him YET, because everyone is waiting to see what happens with David Lee and Ramon Sessions-since those two signings (timing-wise) are gonna kinda dictate the FA landscape next summer…once whose players are signed, then trust that AI’s agent’s phone will be ringing off the hook.

  • http://www.slamonline.com wayno

    I’m not denying the Charles Barkley, Karl Malone, etc weren’t some of the greatest ever, but they will ALWAYS be branded with that label despite thier fantastic careers. The same will happen to AI if he doesn’t win. I’d say that Barkley and Malone had alot more team success than AI though. I didn’t say that AI should settle for 10-12 minutes a night, I said 20-25…you should try reading the posts first. I think AI is better than 10-12 minutes a night.

  • http://www.slamonline.com wayno

    Also Tavoris, if you’re calling the Knicks contenders then someone needs to slap you. Sessions would be a way better add for the Knicks at this point in thier careers anyways. Also, I’ll believe that his agents phone will be ringing off the hook when I see it…my point is that if he’s still an elite player like teddy says he is, he would have been picked up long before Ramon Sessions and David Lee…

  • tavoris

    didn’t call them a contender wayno…and do you realize that ALL the free-agent signings thus far have been fiscally motivated. David Lee was the most-wanted man this summer-until it was revealed the cap was gonna drop.

  • Josh D

    This would be agreat move 4 AI, the three teams i had down who’d he fit in with and be a starter on were the Cavs, Bobcats, and Heat

  • tavoris

    wayno, here u go. discuss the topic without insults, and you won’t be branded a hater (too late). The entire point is that his not getting an offer from the Knicks is puzzling, because 1) the Knicks could use him, 2)they have money, 3)he’d be a good fit with their roster, 4)he’d sell tix and surely would produce numbers for them. I know they aren’t a contender-but let’s face it, there are really only four or five teams that are. None of those teams have the cap space to go after ANY unrestricted free agents. Do YOUR homework on the fiscal situation of the NBA before you ATTEMPT to insult my comment (which wasn’t completely addressing you anyway)

  • http://www.slamonline.com wayno

    Right…but AI will most likely be going for alot cheaper than David Lee…so again, why wouldn’t he be picked up by now if he was an elite talent at his position still? Also, AI signing with the Knicks would just prove my point…he’d be a starter on a mediocre/bad team… About the defense, you’re right, Wade, Bron, and Paul’s defense is all over rated, but they’re all (with maybe the exception of Paul) still WAY better defenders than AI is. AI plays the passing lanes and that is about the extent of his defense. Please tell me which top notch PG/SG’s couldn’t blow him away 90% of the time.

  • doyouwantmore

    Allen Iverson couldn’t win a championship if his life depended on it, because Allen Iverson has always been about Allen Iverson. Maybe it’s not his fault, and he might be the most purely talented player of all time, but he has never had the qualities of a champion. Even the word ‘Champion’ means ‘taking up someone else’s cause’ and he’s never understood that.

  • http://www.slamonline.com wayno

    Tavoris, the only thing close to an insult was that I said he is being a baby (which he is)… Trust me, if he could suck up his pride enough to take a pay cut and play for a contender, a contender would have signed him by now. But he thinks he’s too good to come off the bench and that he’s worth more than he is actually worth. I deffinitely know the fiscal situation of the NBA, but you are totally dodging the issue that no contenders want this guy because he’s not willing to sacrifice his money, starting status, and stats to win.

  • http://www.slamonline.com wayno

    You’re still not making sense Tavoris…my whole argument is that he could put up decent numbers on a non-contending team, but he couldn’t LEAD a contender to a title any more. He could be a nice piece on a title contending team if he were willing to take a diminished role. He just hasn’t shown any signs that he is willing to do so.

  • tavoris

    wayno…which top-notch PG-SG doesn’t AI do the same to? you’re showing ur true colors with the one-sided question. AI has been/still is one of the most indefensible players the NBA has EVER seen. Again, AI’s contract situation is going nowhere until David Lee and Sessions are figured out. This isn’t even a suprise, as those players will be getting multiyear deals (which will affect the 2010 Bonanza-that-won’t-happen).
    AFA any of those players being good defenders…they aren’t. Lebron is good in stretches, but for 46 minutes of every game, he’s a HORRIBLE defender. Dwayne is an ok defender…mediocre, but hardly good. Chris Paul is PRECISELY the same defender that AI is.

  • tavoris

    He’s 34 years old..he’s not gonna be in a position to lead a team to a title (unless a title-contending team loses it’s backcourt mysteriously). The gap between the haves adn the have nots is too huge for that to happen in the remainder of his career.

  • tavoris

    and did you nto notice that he took a diminished role in Detroit? It just didn’t work. He also took far less (and better) shots in Denver too…the only players who have ever had a problem playing with AI are Rip Hamilton and Rodney Stuckey. If he was so selfish, then the list would be considerably longer after over a decade.

  • tavoris

    wayno, the insults weren’t directed at AI. (need to be slapped? really?)

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Co-sign tavoris… Two times.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    wayno, I agree, the Knicks are not contenders. But who says Sessions (a pure PG) and AI (an SG) can’t co-exist in the same backcourt?

  • http://www.slamonline.com wayno

    I don’t say they couldn’t co-exist…but they still probably wouldn’t be a playoff team.

  • http://www.slamonline.com wayno

    Get out Teddy, you’re only co-signing because you can’t come up with any kind of cohesive argument by yourself. You still haven’t answered my question…

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Well, should I jump in here?
    I can’t resist. I think Miami is a bad signing. AI and Wade wouldn’t co-exist well in my opinion.
    I like New York, but I don’t think Mike D and Walsh want Iverson around.
    I think AI isn’t elite, but that doesn’t mean he’s not productive. We shall see how he performs this year since I understand he had back and knee problems last year.

  • http://www.slamonline.com wayno

    So Tavoris, you’re honestly saying that right now AI is willing to take a pay cut and play off the bench in order to win?

  • http://www.slamonline.com wayno

    Exactly Allen, that’s what I’m saying. He is absolutely a serviceable and productive player, but we’re not dealing the 2001 Allen Iverson anymore. Him coming off the bench for Boston Cleveland, or San Antonio would be killer. He could really help a contender get over the hump. He’d also do quite well in D’antoni’s system, he just wouldn’t win there so I don’t see the point, unless the Knicks really think they’re going to get Bron or Wade in 2010.

  • http://www.slamonline.com wayno

    Not sure why y’all are thinking I’m hating on AI. He’s a great player and he’s been very entertaining to watch. I just think people aren’t realizing that he just isn’t an elite player anymore. He’s still good, but with his athletic abilities diminishing and his small size, he’s just not the same guy. He can still probably drop 20 a night and pick up 5 or 6 assists for a non-contender, but imagine what he could do for a good team as a 6th man.

  • tavoris

    Allenp. I dont’ think he’s a good fit in Miami either (since Wade nor Ivy is known for their J. Altho Daequan Cook and James Jones are good enuf shooters to offset that somewhat. Elite is somewhat subjective. There can be an argument made that “elite” ONLY includes Kobe, Lebron, and Wade as of TODAY.

    wayno, I don’t know if he’s willing to take a pay cut. I know that his endorsements more than make up for any potential pay cut, so I doubt the money is an issue. I honestly think the biggest issue is how Detroit screwed him over. He wants to ensure it NEVER happens again (which I don’t blame him 1 bit for). AI is easily STILL good for 25 and 7 a game…as he did in the not-so-distant past in Denver. Of course it’s not gonna be in Boston, Cleveland, or San Antonio, as those teams don’t really need players at his position (3 teams with pretty solid point guard and 2 guard rotations). That AGAIN is my point. There is no roster space (or cap space) available on the contending teams.

  • tavoris

    1) wayno. the NBA is a business. Owners want to make money FAR MORE than they want to win a title. The fans want the title. 2)Allenp..there is something to be said about the “Elite” tag. There are probably only THREE “Elite” players right now (Lebron, Kobe, Wade), with everyone else on an obvious rung below them. 3)back to wayno-I don’t know if he’ll take a pay cut and a reduced role any more than you do. However, the championship-contending teams all have a pretty set rotation in their backcourt. In addition, they don’t have cap space. AI isn’t gonna get on a title-contending team right now-even if he turns into a true pg-because there isn’t room on any of those teams for him.

  • http://www.nba.com Pardeep

    Why would Iverson play 10-12 mins a game? Hes Allen Iverson. People have been treating him like he needs to be a Ginobli kind of player. That is disrespectful asking Iverson to come off the bench. Why? HE has one of the greatest careers ever. 27.1 ppg, 6.2 apg, 2.2 spg for his career. 24,000 points over 5,500 assits. 4 Scoring titles. Rookie of the year. 2001 MVP(one of the greatest individual seasons ever). 2 time all-star game MVP. 10 time all-star. He has better stats than the great Kobe Bryant for crying out loud. He is a first ballot hall of famer. Pound for Pound the greatest athlete ever. Toughest player ever. So just because one team hated that their best friend Billups was gone they never let Iverson be Iverson. They didnt care if they Pistons were succesful because if they were Iverson would have been the hero. Iverson took 13 shots per game. I have never seen such a great scorer do that. And they said he never sacraficed and they said he was a cry baby. Why did Rip,Sheed,Tay and Stuckey get to have their normal stats and Iverson had to settle for career lows? ONE MAN CAN’T MAKE A TEAM and ONE MAN CAN’T BREAK A TEAM. Iverson did sacrafice but the rest of the team did not. Oh and Michael Curry sucks for not being able to fit one of the greatest players ever into a system or atleast changing it so they could win. There is a reason Curry is fired.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    TAvoris
    I agree with you. The elite tag should only be reserved for those three players, with Tim Duncan, KG and Chris Paul at the level on certain nights.
    I always wished that Iverson would sign with a team like San Antonio and come off the bench, I honestly think that would be a wonderful role for him right now if the players in front of him truly deserve to start, and he’s getting nice minutes most night.
    I think Detroit was a horrible situation because they lacked a real point guard, the entire team was pouting and the gameplan was ridiculously bad. That said, there were some games, thinking of that Lakers game early in the year, when AI showed exactly what could have been in the D.

  • http://www.slamonline.com wayno

    You’re telling me he’s not better than any of the contender’s bench PG/SG’s? I’m pretty sure any of those teams could spare a vet’s minimum on AI. 25 – 7 for AI is ludacris. There’s no way he touches those kind of numbers. You have some kind of messed up sense of reality if you think he can get those numbers still. He is a VERY gaurdable player at this point in his career. There are more than 3 elite players in the league too…that’s just plain silly talk there. KG, Tim Duncan, Dwight Howard, Kobe, LeBron, D-Wade, Chris Paul, Carmelo Anthony to name a few. These are all premier bona-fide superstars and are certainly elite players. AI is good for no more than 20-6.

  • http://www.nba.com Pardeep

    Oh and you know how some coaches say if you play hard you will get to start. Ummmm…. were talking about the toughest player ever he plays harder than anyone ever has. Even if he averaged 9 points and 5 assits per game Iverson is a starter just because of how hard he plays.

  • tavoris

    He’d definitely be down for that…as he’s never been one to put his stats over trying to win. There was no way he’d be cool with backing up Rodney Stuckey and Rip, given that NEITHER player is nearly as good as he is.

  • http://www.nba.com Pardeep

    @WAYNO: Are you kidding me? Iverson cant average 25 anymore? He averaged 27 ppg in Denver a season ago on 46 percent shooting and 18 shots per game. That is preety damn good for a 33 year old 6 foot shooting guard. He also averaged 7.1 apg.

  • http://www.slamonline.com wayno

    @ Pardeep – Many NBA greats have taken diminished roles toward the end of thier careers, it’s not at all disrespectful to ask good players to do that if it is what’s best for the team. Nobody is belittleing AI’s career acomplishments by asking him to come off the bench. Detroit was absolutely a lousy situation for him, but you’re going way over the top with your statement.

  • tavoris

    Pardeep, that was called trying to sweeten the sh&t.

  • http://www.nba.com Pardeep

    @Wayno: But asking Iverson to come off the bench is almost like asking Magic,Bird,Jordan to come off the bench. Now i know youll start talking about their rings. But stat wise only Jordan and Chamberlain beat Iverson and last time I checked those are the 2 greatest ever. Asking Iverson when he is 37 to come off the bench is for sure understandable even A.I. would say himself because then he will be much slower and weaker. But at 34? I know that is old but not old enough to ask one of the greatest ever to come off the bench.

  • http://www.slamonline.com wayno

    I’m not arguing about the Detroit situation Tavoris, it was a disaster. Stuckey shouldn’t have been starting, but that team wasn’t going anywhere anyways, so I can understand the reasoning to start Stuckey and try to develop him…I don’t necesarily agree, but I understand. He couple deffinitely be playing behind an lesser SG/PG though so he could provide more of a punch off the bench. give him 20-25 minutes in the gaurd spots off the bench and that would be great for any contender.

  • http://www.slamonline.com wayno

    There is 0 chance that AI is on the same level as Magic/Bird/Jordan/Chamberlin etc…no chance. You’re absolutely dilusional if you think he’s on that level.

  • http://www.slamonline.com wayno

    Stats are nice, but without rings, stats are just stats Pardeep. Without a ring in his posession, you can’t mention AI in the same sentence as those guys.

  • http://www.nba.com Pardeep

    Stats are just stats? A.I. is still in the crop of players that comes after those 4 I never said that he is as good as them. But in the modern era. Since 1996. The best careers are Shaq,Kobe,Duncan,Garnett,Iverson. Iverson could have won a ring but his prime was wasted. His management was pathetic and he still took a horrible team to the Finals. Iverson had no help in Philly. Every great player who has won a ring had another legend with them. Iverson in his prime had nobody. In Enver(no D). He had MELO and won 50 games. With NO TEAM DEFENCE. Not his fault.

  • http://www.slamonline.com wayno

    You can make all the excuses you want about why he didn’t win a ring Pardeep, but it doesn’t matter…he just didn’t win one, and if he ends his career that way he’ll always bear that label as great, but not great enough to win a title. If he doesn’t win a ring then he’s not even a top 25 player of all time.

  • http://www.nba.com Pardeep

    Yes he is. I guess Barkley, Stockton and Malone are not either than. The ring part is just a team thing. Iverson is not the team. Player wise Iverson is top 25 ever.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    There is a difference between being “not great enough to win a ring” and “never winning a ring despite being great.”
    Semantics are important.

  • http://www.slamonline.com wayno

    My bad allen, you’re right.

  • http://www.nba.com Pardeep

    Way to say it Allen.

  • http://www.slamonline.com wayno

    I still don’t see AI as a top 25 though…if we wins a ring, he’s up there but right now he’s not.

  • http://http//myspace.com/weezyleezy337 weezy leezy

    Can’t hate on iverson…after jordan took it to another level, iverson, shaq, garnett da god, duncan and kobe straight put in work…he’s just the only 1 not to win a chip…..but that don’t mean he’s any less off a player…at 6’0. Id argue he was pound for pound the best in fact

  • http://lastknickstanding.blogspot.com Bryan

    The lakers were unstoppable during the sixers finals run. Yet the only blemish on their record in the playoffs that year was a loss to AI and the sixers when he laid a 40+ ass kicking on them and stepped over tyronn lue like he was a f*cking doormat. You can argue all you want about what his role should be now, whether he can still drop 25 and 7 a night (which he can) or his attitude but you cannot argue the mans greatness. Easily one of the all time greats, he transcended the sport and became bigger than the game that made him famous. The fact that he didn’t win a ring only means the teams he played on were incapable. Please show me a championship level roster he played on? The nuggets, maybe, but nene and jr smith were much better this past season than the season before and kmart was less injured so don’t tell me iverson was the problem there.

  • http://www.slamonline.com wayno

    Whatever, y’all are entitled to your opinion…we’ll see who’s right this upcoming season I suppose. Good debate, it was fun.

  • http://http//myspace.com/weezyleezy337 weezy leezy

    If he signs wit d wade its 50 wins easy…they gonna catch wreck..stop hatin

  • http://http//myspace.com/weezyleezy337 weezy leezy

    Iverson can’t play point…bs….some of his illest games was when he was runnin point at the all star game…stop hatin…if he signs wit d wade in the mia…I’m sayin…50 wins easy!

  • http://slamonline.com MiguelKG5

    Iverson should go to Miami but come of the bench because the truth of things is that he is not a PG, he is a SG and that will give a well deserved rest to D-Wade who in the playoffs will be rested and ready to go.

  • RG

    AI and Wade would be a great backcourt…..AI has always been an undersized scoring machine shooting guard who puts up great assist numbers but it’s time for him to be in a backcourt with sumone like d-wade and allow him to play the point and cause havoc

  • RG

    WAYNO… lets start with the det situation… dumars was tryin to tank the season and rebuild for the future…miss the playoffs hopefully get a lottery pick, develop stuckey, was never gonna resign iverson, sheed, mdyess. as far as denver doin better…well billups replaced anthony carter not ai…..ai’s sg spot was takin over by a combination of dantay jones and jr smith. so the nuggets upgraded at the point but downgraded at the sg position as far as a starter but they did build some depth. keep in mind denver didnt have the birdman the 2 seasons with iverson, and nene and kenyon were havin injury problems.

    ai has always been a great scorer even though he’s only 6 feet but he also but up great assist numbers. at this point in his career a move to the PG and playing alongside someone as good as wade he can still put up 18-20 points as a starter and up his asissts from 7 to about 9 and maybe even 10… doubt him all u want he’s proven ppl wrong his whole career and will do it one last time if he’s in the right fit and miami is the right fit. please don’t try to pump up chalmers sure he’s a solid young player but they had nobody else besides quinn to start at the point. iverson, wade, jones, haslem, jo….with beas playing 30 mins a night subbing at the 3 or 4 spot…and chalmers developin learning behind ai and wade and this team can make a serious title run…also don’t forget if they trade haslem, wright and/or a 1st rounder they have a shot to add carlos boozer….then i would say they’re favorites to win it it. Pardeep my man don;t worry about ai not being a good fit and chemistry issues he is not looking to be the MAN anymore he just wnats to win and show he still belongs. alot of oldschool fans and racists haters have been waiting years to have something to hate on iverson about and with what hapeend in det here it is.

  • http://www.nba.com Pardeep

    @RG: Im glad you get how Iverson gets hated on and people waited for a bad season from him so they could talk about something. But still… there is something about this move that makes me think it wont work. A.I. might just be looking to be the MAN because he still can be the MAN. He is coming out with a chip on his shoulder and because he is one of the greatest scorers ever he will probably try to average around 25 ppg to shut people up. He could do it with MELO but Melo was not in the backcourt with him. Wade and Riley have both said they want Iverson but something about this move is scaring me. Iverson will probably beat Chalmers out in training camp for the starter spot but still… a 4 time scoring champ looking to score with the reigning scoring champ? A.I. would be better off where he is the man. Number 1 is an UNLUCKY number for him. 3 is Iverson’s number man I3. So many memories with that number. Wade aint giving it up. But basketball wise someone needs to really give me good reasons why this is a good move.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Hey wayno, WAYNO: Co-sign Allenp, Bryan, Pardeep, and RG… Two times!

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Lol on the real though, I don’t get why people think Iverson has suddenly fallen off. He might not be the best in the league anymore, but he’s still an All-Star caliber player. Seriously the season before he averaged 26 ppg and 7 assists…
    @ Pardeep: Well, AI and Dwayne Wade can pretty much have free rein to score as much as they want with the crappy roster that the Heat have… If Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce can share the ball (both aren’t great passers), I’m pretty sure AI and Wade can, too.
    The problem with AI and Melo together was Melo’s propensity to do nothing but score (no offense to him). He’ll never be as motivated as Dwayne Wade is.
    I don’t think this move would be that bad, really. When Earl the Pearl went to the Knicks in ’72, people thought him and Clyde Frazier would need two basketballs… They won a championship that year.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    i can’t believe that people think ai is over the hill based on what happened in the d. in 2007-08 he was dropped 26-7 and went to the line 10 times a game. at no point during his stint in the d i’ve ever thought ‘damn, a.i. is struggling out there because he lost a step’. he struggled because of the system and the role he was asked to play. give him enough mins and the right mandate (for him) and he’s at least 20+ ppg. c’mon now. the only thing is that his particular skillset is not made to be 2nd banana UNLESS he accepts to be a 6th man/change of pace guy. he would be a rich man’s nate.

  • RG

    Pardeep… AI is not going to Miami looking to be the MAN..are u kidding me??!?!? That would be like Shaq heading to Cleveland saying he wants to be the man and not Lebron. Or Ron Artest saying he will be the man and not Kobe. Just remember in Det even when AI was starting he wasn’t trying to be the MAN he was trying to fit in (only took 13 shots per game and scored 17.5 ppg).

    AI is going to Miami to COMPETE for a title, plain and simple, but be a starter and play a big role for the team…that’s how he will shut ppl up, not by scoring 25-30 per game and have miami lose in the first round again. For denver and philly he had to score like that or they wouldn’t have made the playoffs so you can’t blame him or call em a ballhog. Detroit was a gong show like I’ve already mentioned. In Miami he will score 18-22 and get 8-9 assists instead of his usually 6-7. Wade and AI are both great passers and scorers which should work well with spot up shooters like chalmers, cook, jones and guys who are good finishers in the paint haslem, oneal, magloire. Don’t forget wildcards like Beasley having a big year like many expect, or them being able to get Boozer. This team could be the champs in 2010.

    At the end of the season I could see AI staying with Miami signing 2-3 yrs for 8-9 million and retire…which wouldn’t get in the way of them signing another max contract player, or resigning Boozer if they already have him and want him…plus adding one more solid rotation player. AI isn’t hurting for cash he has over 100 million in contract money and tons more in endorsements.

  • http://www.nba.com Pardeep

    @RG: I never called A.I. a ballhog hes one of my favorite players but knowing Iverson from the way he proves people wrong it is usually with scoring. You made some good points though on the Heat winning a title and Iverson being able to average 22 and 9 that would be nice. I am not saying this will happened but if A.I. can average 22 and 10 this will be a great season for him and the Heat. But again he aint even on the Heat yet. He is probably going to wait for Ramon Sessions to go somewhere so the Knicks can offer him a contract.

  • RG

    AI don’t care that some teams offering 5 million (bobcats, clips, memphis, knicks and possibly pacers) but Miami will only give him 2 million. AI don’t care about the money if he did he would go pull a Beckham and take 10 million tax free dollars to play in Greece and live like a rockstar. AI would start for those other NBA teams and get more minutes and points…but still they would miss the playoffs or be out in the first round. Iverson is a competitor who wants to be a big part of a team winning, so Miami would be the perfect situation for him since they’re already a 5th seeded team and have an alpha dawg Wade that AI can work with and will defer to. The Heat struggled to score in the playoffs and were relying way too heavily on Wade to create everything he looked exhausted and frustrated. He would love having a guy like AI who can get hot and carry the scoring load at times but also create for d-wade and other teammates when someone else gets goin. The problem is that Pat Riley is insulting AI by saying that he’s not lookin to bring em in to take Mario Chalmers starting job….when did Mario Chalmers become so damn good that his spot can’t be takin? He’s talking about Mario Chalmers as if he’s some kind of allstar player haha…reminds me of when AI was asked to sit behind Rodney Stuckey in Detroit you know that left a bad taste in AI’s mouth.

  • COLT6

    Give A.I. a job. I don’t care where. Boy still got game.

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    if the Bobcats let iverson sign WITHIN THE DIVISION and do not get any form of a scorer, i am going to be p!ssed

  • fds

    wayno can go die in a hole. bye

  • http://slam nyjoe

    The Heat were almost back on track, don’t take a step back. A.I. is not the guy. Maybe he should go to the Bobcats or Grizzlies, but his action throughout his career definetely does not earn him a spot with any contending team. Sorry A.I., no ring for you. Go somewhere where you can take every shot, not show up to practice, ignore the offensive sets that are designed, and just finish with your individual stats. You know, like you’ve done your whole career. What a wate of talent!

  • knock knock

    Theres a reason why an a.i. led team was never in the top of their conference. He is a ballhog, who’s assists only come when he has no other option. Even if A.i. was on miami, they wouldn’t compete for no championship.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Right, knock knock. Like the Philadelphia 76ers that went on to the Finals.

  • http://www.anwilson.blogspot.com rainman10

    knock knock…duh his assists come when he has no other options, he is a scorer. Thats why he’s averaged 27 a game for his career. The role of a scorer is to score, not pass first. The game would be so slow and boring and counter productive if everyone looked to pass first.

  • BostonBaller

    Charlotte needs a scorer.

  • RG

    All NBA guys are late for practice at some point or may even miss one occasionally for whatever reason. The only problem was that Larry Brown came out in public made a big deal out of it. Then there was that famous interview “we talkin bout practice?”. Maybe that interview was stupid on AI’s part trying to downplay the importance of practice, but I think it was more about him being choked at Larry Brown and refusing to be a good “boy” and apologize for being late to practice. AI knows the importance of practice he wouldn’t be the player he is if he didn’t practice for thousands and thousands of hours on his own and with teams.

    Iverson doesn’t want to start for a fringe team and put up 25-30 pts and retire. If that was the case he would have signed already with the Grizz, Knicks, Pacers or Bobcats by now for more money then the Heat. He wants to be a big part of a contender having success and possibly winning a ring because he believes in himself and knows he’s still “got it”. That doesn’t mean he’s trying to be the #1 option and carry a team, it just means he has what it takes to be a allstar talent who can help his team overachieve.

    Wade/AI would by far be the most dangerous backcout in the NBA both guys are unguardable 1 on 1 and would make the game so much easier for each other and for their teammates. Wade gets sick of having to carry the offense the entire game he needs a guy like AI that you can run plays for and sit back and let him go to work. Beas could be that type of player also but do you really think wade wants to waste another year or 2 of his prime and risk injury waiting for Beas to become the superstar everyon says he can be?

  • g

    idk wat to think about this if we get a.i he could possibly mess miami up because he can’t play point guard and we already have an great up coming point guard in mario chalmers now if we get a.i he might not want to come off the bench and that’s gonna create problems but on the other side he is a good player he can easily average 20-25 mayb even 30 (doubt it with wade there) but he could b a good additon he jus gotta accept coming off the bench or he might jus have to retire

  • http://slamonline Akira

    if you ask any player in the nba would they like to play? they will say AI, okay his minutes and age are not the same but he have positive numbers, but in the Pistons he did not fix anything but he have good stats for is age check it out: 17.5ppg 3.0rpg 5.0apg.
    The heat leader is Wade, but iverson could be the vet who give confidence and could teach the young players in the team. he’s not like Jordan but could be a good player yet

  • http://slamonline BossTerry

    I wish AI, Boozer, and Lee would hurry up and sign with a team..

  • Bubba

    Why should Iverson come off the bench behind Chalmers when AI is the superior player? Chalmers and Cook can come off the bench AI is a better passer then Chalmers anyways would get more assists and will take some of the scoring load off of Wade.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Co-sign Bubba.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Why do people always expect AI to come off the bench for players that are worse than him?

  • danny

    Why in the hell do people expect A.I. to actually win games. He’s a career .500 and no team player. Every team he leaves either goes to the playoffs, or goes further in the playoffs (Denver). No need to feel sorry for this 100 million dollar man. He’s never been that good.

  • RG

    Comin off the bench to help your team isn’t a bad thing. Look at players like Ben Gordon, Jason Terry, Manu Ginobili, Lamar Odom, Leandro Barbosa they’re all top 3 scorers for their team but they don’t start. However, none of those guys are former MVP or 1st team all-NBA, allstar game MVP etc. AI could score 20plus comin off the bench but he still feels he’s at or near the top of his game, and to him it’s a matter of respect. Why should any of us doubt him because Detroit was a horrible situation what about just months earlier when hes droppin 26 and 7 for the Nuggets a 50 win team?

  • http://www.nba.com Pardeep

    @Danny: He’s never been that good.??He has one of the greatest careers ever. 27.1 ppg, 6.2 apg, 2.2 spg for his career. 24,000 points over 5,500 assits. 4 Scoring titles. Rookie of the year. 2001 MVP(one of the greatest individual seasons ever). 2 time all-star game MVP. 10 time all-star. He has better stats than the great Kobe Bryant for crying out loud. He lead a very pathetic roster to the finals. He is a first ballot hall of famer. Pound for Pound the greatest athlete ever. Toughest player ever. All that and he has never been that good? Denver lost to the same team they lost to last year. The Lakers could not be beat by most teams. The Nuggets with Iverson won 50 games last year that would be good for 6th in the west this year. Nuggets this year won 4 more games and lost to the Lakers in WCF. the Nuggets did not get that much better and it is not Iversons fault the Nuggets did not play defence it is not his fault they never had Nene and Birdman (impact players). My point is Iverson is legendary

  • rikson

    check

  • rikson

    Despite AI, I dont know any other player, whos defended so often with ONE (!) championship run… OK – he went to the finals once (and lost 4-1). But remember it was a very weak eastern conference – after the Bulls team faded away- back then, with finals appearences by the Pacers (who had without doubt a crappy roster too) or the Knicks! I read posts here that used his name in the same sentence as MJ, Bird or even Malone – thats BS. Oh – and the Lakers in 2001 were superior and unbeatable? Well what do you say about the Bulls that Malone and Stockton faced??? Or take a look at Kidd. Despite Dallas – I think – he went to the finals with every team he was on. Still the same people that defend AI with his ONE finals appearence, will say that kidd is a worse player – its a mad world… BTW: To call ANY player in todays league the toughest player ever is just BS!!!

  • Justin

    The fact that Barkley, Stockton, Malone, Ewing, etc. weren’t able to win a ring has nothing to do with how great they were as individuals or their teams. It had everything to do with the fact that they played at the same time as Michael Jordan

  • rikson

    Quote:”the Nuggets did not get that much better and it is not Iversons fault the Nuggets did not play defence it is not his fault they never had Nene and Birdman (impact players). ” -> They had a very VERY bad defender in Camby…

  • RG

    Sure Camby is a good defender, but is an offensive liability. And how does Camby being good on D make up for Nene, K-mart, Birdman being injured? And for Anthony Carter the worst starting point guard in the league, or for Melo not playing even close to his potential till he has a babysitter and leader like Billups roll into town?

  • tavoris

    rikson…Kidd has only gone to the finals with NJ. and he’s played on Dallas (twice), Phoenix, and NJ. In addition, he has always played on teams with MORE talent than Ivy has ever had at any 1 time. People defend Iverson because he’s always been blamed for the results of poor GM’s. Ivy has only really played with TWO All-Star Caliber players in his whole career. Kidd, on the other hand, Kidd has ALWAYS had two all-star caliber players on his team.

  • tavoris

    RG..camby is NOT a good defender. Marcus Camby is a phenomenal rebounder, and blocks shots, but he gets bullied in the paint by EVERY starting center in the NBA.

  • rikson

    @tavoris

    My bad! But he went deep into the playoffs with a crappy NJ Roster… Remember they played with 4 guards – i just say: Rex Chapman!

  • rikson

    And Kidd had no All-Star Player on the Nets… I would say the 2001 Sixers and 2003 Nets are similar in strengh and depth… I mean Jefferson still isnt an allstar player, but was far from there in 2003! Rodney Rogers… you gotta be kidding?! And Murombo: well he was on the Sixers too…

  • rikson

    Oh – and I ment the crappy Phoenix roster – sorry

  • rikson

    NJ 2003 finals roster: Jason Kidd | Kenyon Martin | Richard Jefferson | Kerry Kittles | Lucious Harris | Rodney Rogers | Aaron Williams | Dikembe Mutombo | Jason Collins | Anthony Johnson | Brian Scalabrine | Tamar Slay | Brandon Armstrong | Chris Childs | Donny Marshall

  • tavoris

    on that Roster, Kenyon Martin was at his BEST as a rebounder and defender, Kerry Kittles was pre-injury (when he was basically what Rip Hamilton is now), Mutombo was still Dikembe of old. In addition, Kidd has played with: Jim Jackson, Jamal Mashburn, Kevin Johnson, Antonio McDyess, Vince Carter, Richard Jefferson, Dirk Nowitzki, Jason Terry. All of these players have been All-stars, or near all-stars. Ivy, on the other hand, has had Derrick Coleman, Melo & Mutombo.

    Jus accept that Jason Kidd has always had superior players on his team than AI.

  • http://www.slamonline.com wayno

    Jason Kidd >>>>>> AI

    If I’m starting a team and I can pick either one of these guys in thier prime, it’s Jason Kidd 110% of the time. AI is a.) Not the toughest ever and b.) not pound for pound the greatest athlete ever. That’s actually hilarious when you say that.

  • tavoris

    Richard Jefferson 2002-2003 – 15.5 ppg, 6.4 rpg, on 50% shooting from the field. As the FOURTH team option, those are some pretty darn good stats.

  • tavoris

    wayno has been resurrected…thought u gave up already. Jason Kidd has had a HOF career-no doubt. In his prime, however, Ivy was just as good-if not better-than Kidd. It’s easy to average 10 assists a game when you have superior athletes running the lanes…when has he NOT had GREAT scorers and/or finishers on his team?

    Do you think Kidd woulda led the 2001 76′ers to the finals? would anyone on that team been able to score? Puhleeze. Put Iverson on the Nets, Suns, or Mavs (where he has more than one person to pass to), and they would have been AS successful.

  • http://www.slamonline.com wayno

    Jason Kidd MADE the players around him All-star calibur players…that’s the difference between him and AI. Also, I didn’t give up, I just made my point and nobody said anything that came even close to disproving it, so I had nothing else to say. Somebody brought up Jason Kidd so I figured I’d chime in again.

  • tavoris

    wayno…so Kidd MADE Jim Jackson, Jamal Mashburn, Antonio McDyess, Kevin Johnson, Kenyon Martin, and Dirk Nowitski better? really? Of course not…they all had productive, all-star caliber careers before and after Kidd (except for martin, but it also had to do wirh injuries).

  • tavoris

    wayno…nobody felt your point was valid (especially when ur rep is what it is), so your point wasn’t addressed. Additionally, DISPROVING YOU is hardly a concern of anyone on Slamonline.

  • http://www.nba.com Pardeep

    Iverson is the toughest player to ever play the game. A 6 foot shooting guard who used to get hit on ever play and come back and do it again. When he took that 2001 team to the Finals he had like 15 injuries. Dude played hurt his whole career and other than Isiah there is not one player I have seen take it to the hoop over and over again smaller than 6 foot 3 like Iverson has. Oh and Jason Kidd? Are you kidding me. Jason Kidd has been playing longer than Iverson and has less all-star appearances that says something. The teams J-kidd took to the finals were way more talented than the one A.I. took. People do not understand how much of a beast K-Mart was before injury. A.I. had a much harder job than kid he had to score to win games for his teams. J-kidd had to give it to all-stars. Vince Carter. Richard Jefferson. Kenyon Martin. Dirk Nowitzki. Jamal Mashburn. Jim Jackson. McDyess. All those guys in their prime. Iverson never even had a Jason Terry in his prime. J-kidd 0 MVP awards. Iverson 1.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Pardeep

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/hof_prob_active.html

    Read this it tells everything. Jason Kidd does not even have a better career than Nash. Iverson is 5th best on that list next to umm KG Duncan Kobe and Shaq. They are all 100 percent in the hall of fame. Jason Kidd is like 98.

  • http://www.slamonline.com wayno

    LMAO – way too easy guys…way too easy…lol. Let me know when you’re panties get un-bunched and I’ll say something else…

    Isiah Thomas >> AI x25…AI’s NBA wasn’t NEARLY as physical as the NBA Isiah Thomas played in Thomas got murdered every time he went into the lane. If AI got hit half as hard as Isiah Thomas, the player who did it would be suspended for half the season.

  • http://www.slamonline.com wayno

    Oh, btw Tavoris – it says alot about you when you judge people’s “rep” based on SLAMonline postings… I don’t know if I should laugh at you or feel sorry for you about that. Also, w/o Jason Kidd, Kenyon Martin, Kerry Kittles, RJ and the others who played with him in his prime in NJ wouldn’t be half the players they were at that time. J-Kidd is arguably his generation’s best PG. He could have taken that Philly team places in that WEAK eastern conference just as easily if not more so than AI.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Pardeep

    @Wayno: Quit hating. http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/hof_prob_active.html J-Kidd aint got sh*t on A.I.

  • http://www.thehundreds.com Waylonakolipse

    J-Kidd is the most complete PG ever that couldn’t shoot. And AI is the best player ever under 6’2. Both are HOF bound.

  • RG

    WAYNO..you really don’t know your basketball you’re reaching right now. If Jkidd was on that Philly team their main rotation guys would have been: JKidd, Eric Snow, Aaron Mckie, Dikembe Mutombo, Raja Bell, George Lynch, Kevin Ollie. Would this team seriously even make the playoffs? Which of these guys would Jkidd make into an allstar?

  • http://www.slamonline.com wayno

    Ok RG, so that was indeed a reach…it’s really apples and oranges though. That team would be able to score w/o AI because they didn’t have anyone else who COULD score. And AI was one of the most talented offensive players at that time, so he fit. J-Kidd is a true PG, so yeah, he wouldn’t have put up 30ppg. I guess I’m just really not that impressed with Philly’s finals run. The East was absolutely terrible that year. Don’t get me wrong, J-Kidd’s NJ teams weren’t full of slouches, but he put pretty good players at an all-star level. He definitely made them alot better. He pretty much made RJ and K-Mart’s careers.

  • rikson

    You guys are just hilarious… Quote:”on that Roster, Kenyon Martin was at his BEST as a rebounder and defender, Kerry Kittles was pre-injury (when he was basically what Rip Hamilton is now), Mutombo was still Dikembe of old” -> Kerry Kittles was like RIP???!!! AI had Mutombo too, actually they traded for him after his best allstar-game (22 Rebounds- he basically won for the east – AI got the MVP, not surprising), when he had the form of his life (maybe his old ATL days can be compared)…. Dont forget about Snow, who was aprime defender that time, and McKey was just flat out killa… Ive had enough – keep on talking -> time will proove im right; actually this season will proove it (if you dont count the Det debacle)! So many excuses…

  • rikson

    @RG: Great comparison… Take the starting SG of a team and replace it with a PG (especially Kidd), and then complain that the PG wouldnt put up 30ppg… ZZZZZZZ

  • http://www.slamonline.com wayno

    Also, I say some of what I say just to get a rise of the Allen Iverson police (Pardeep and Tavoris). I swear, any criticism of AI (legit or not) they’re on it like white on rice…

  • rikson

    They are on to you – RUN WAYNO RUUUUNNN….

  • http://www.slamonline.com wayno

    LMAO

  • rikson

    Well – Ill better run too. See ya….

  • tavoris

    rikson…it’s not about making excuses. K-Mart was one of TWO players in the league who have successfully guarded Duncan 1 on 1. (Sheed is the other). Before he got to Denver and fell apart, he was everything on the defensive end of the floor that people WISH Amare would be. And sleep if u will on Kerry Kittles, but he was considered “Reggie Miller’s heir” when he was drafted. Dude was a sweet shooting guard who would do everything offensively AND defend. And Richard Jefferson has done pretty well without Kidd….his numbers in Milwaukee were actually BETTER overall. That’s not to minimize Kidd’s achievements (as he’s #3 or 4 on the PG heirarchy in my book). However, it’s ridiculous to attribute the performance of PRETTY GOOD completely to ONE player.

  • http://www.slamonline.com wayno
  • tavoris

    nice article, wayno, but did you read it? wasnt a lot of what I said to you before echoed in there? Maybe the fact of his history (however overblown) was put to the forefront, but it’s basically saying the same thing-that the best teams in the L dont really need what he excels in. In addition to the economy (really only the two finalists are in big markets), makes his free agency not all that uprising.

  • http://www.slamonline.com wayno

    “If I’m Gregg Popovich, I don’t want to touch the kid with a 10-foot pole,” a GM said. “He doesn’t guard, he’s late to practice and then you have the media hanging on his every word. I can guarantee 100 percent that you’re not going to change him. And if he wants to play for a championship-level team, he has to change his game to be a support guy. I don’t see that happening.

    “If he goes two possessions without touching the ball you’re going to see him mope, walk back on defense and make a scene in the huddle because he doesn’t roll like that. The last two spots, everything blew up and that’s what every GM is looking at.”

  • http://www.slamonline.com wayno

    Like I said, if he were willing to change his game, then we’d be seeing alot of playoff teams going after him. This whole article embodies what I have been saying. I was never debating the fact that there aren’t other latent factors involved, but this is the main reason playoff teams haven’t jumped all over signing this guy. Seriously, it’s the vets minimum. That’s nothing for a guy of his calibur.

  • http://www.slamonline.com wayno

    Anyways…I’m done now (again)… hope this didn’t affect my “rep” in a negative way…lol

  • http://www.nba.com Pardeep

    @Wayno: Stop hating on A.I. you probably just hate the braids tattos gangster image hip hop life style he brought to the NBA. A.I. is a legend. One of the greatest.

  • rikson

    @Pardeep: I really doubt that this is what wayno is about! But you just pointed out, what you love about AI – right?! I knew it….

  • rikson

    “However, it’s ridiculous to attribute the performance of PRETTY GOOD completely to ONE player.” -> You know that AI had a team in Philly, right?! He didnt play alone – shocking, I know…

  • http://www.slamonline.com wayno

    After I’ve repeatedly indicated that I respect his game and I’ve enjoyed watching him play that’s all you’ve got Pardeep? C’mon man, I’d expect more outta you (not really). My whole point is that for him to be successful from a team standpoint in the wanning years of his career, he’s going to have to change his game, end of story. His style of play doesn’t age well, and he’s just not the same as he used to be.

  • tavoris

    wayno, how can you say his style of play doesn’t age well, when there has NEVER been a player with his style of play? The only players who are remotely similar to AI are Wade and Westbrook, and both are considerably younger, bigger, and stronger.
    Additionally, your “rep” is a direct reault of the information you provide.
    Greg Popovich DID NOT make that comment, and “anonymous” team exec did. Which could be a concession worker for all we know. All I do know is that he is a polarizing figure to the media, but his teammates LOVE playing with him. If you watched him in the ASG, he passes the ball all the time-when there are teammates who can actually finish. Sure, he’s not a pure PG, but he is more than capable and willing to give theball up. Unless you think a player that has averaged more assists than fellow chuckers Kobe, Vince, Pierce, Allen, & TMac in the same period a selfish player.

  • http://www.slamonline.com wayno

    “If I’m Gregg Popovich, I don’t want to touch the kid with a 10-foot pole,” A GM SAID. I didn’t say Gregg Popovich said anything…and it wasn’t an annonymous team exec, it was a GM in the league…reading comprehension is key…

  • RG

    1) Why would several GMs make such comments and not want their identity known, or better yet what journalist hides his sources like that, and quotes them? BS…this stuff sounds made up 2) AI has played on teams with not much offense other than him, so he’s had to face alot of double teams and take tough shots to keep his team alive or in hopes of making comebacks near end of games. Notice when he has had a LITTLE more help the last few years his fg% has been a LITTLE bit higher. 3) Funny some guy said 40% fg is horrible but 47% is exploding. If you take 20 shots and shoot 40% you’ll hit 8……if you shoot 47% you’ll hit 9….what kind of explosion is that? Take into account how many free throws he gets, and his assists/steals he MORE than offsets any fg% he has unless he was shooting like 20% LOL. 4) Let’s just ASSUME that 3-4 GM’s really did say this, what would it really mean? The NBA is a league of followers and an opinion becomes consensus pretty fast. How else does someone like Darko, Olowokandi and countless other busts end up being on all teams concensus top 1-2 draft pick list? One or 2 GM’S brand the player the next big thing or that he has so much potential (hype)…and the rest of these sissies jump on the bandwagon. 5) Alot of ppl have hated on AI, mostly based on things like racism, jeolousy, media hype, the practise interview, and been waiting for his career to take a turn for the worst so they could start hating and jump all over the guy. Just like alot of ppl are waiting for Kobe or Lebron or anyone to mess up. 6) Denver went from 8th to 2nd in the West but only improved by 4 games in the regular season…this improvement came in a year where the western conference was weaker then it had been in ages. Denver lost AI and Anthony Carter but added Billups and Birdman…. plus Nene and K-mart were finally healthy! Shouldn’t there have been more then a 4 game improvement if you really think about it? 7) Detroit wanted AI for his expiring contract and turned it into younger players and added depth to their team (gordon, villenuena, wilcox). Det was looking to rebuild in 09 not contend for a title just yet. They wanted to bring Stuckey along more for the long term instead of trying to win with a backcourt of AI and Rip 2 vets who got alot left in the tnak who’ve both been to allstar games what has Stuckey ever done to deserve to start over Rip and later over AI? AI is a competitor who wants to win sure he might have whined and complained but only because he wnated to win and was frustrated that he had to play less mins because of the wrong reasons…wouldn’t you all ahve done the same if you’re 33-34 tryin to still win a ring but ur team has other agendas?

  • RG

    Honestly guys, what does Miami have to lose with this signing? AI has someting to prove so I wouldn’t be shocked if he’s goes out and drops 24 and 8 starting at the point but also playing the 2 somtimes. Riley is an idiot for saying he would start Mario because he’s their pg of the future, when Wade isn’t sitting here waiting for 2-3 years to come around he wants to compete now, and AI is far superior then Mario right now so could someone please give me a good reason AI wouldn’t start? Wade just bought a house in Chicago his home town Riley better take that as a warning and do something NOW.

  • vashyoung

    dont wory RG AI would sign at the opening game with the Heat… with AI and Wade, defenders from the other team will really have a bad time guarding those two… AI is a best passer and so is Wade, when ever those has the ball the can score and dish that is so hard for the defenders to predict cause you have to guard two great and SUPPAAHH Aggressive attacker… WADE is better than melo offence and defence… AI has defense he is a passing lane distruptor, if anyone saying AI is not defending guess your wrong cause that how he defend. its Physical limitation if AI is body is like Lebron imagine? AI can still school EVERY PLAYER IN THE NBA EVER KOBE… T.Parker is like an elementary when guarding him, and so is JKidd they are all like girl AI handles are Legendary

  • B.B.BALLER

    teddy-the-bear u IDOIT

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