Monday, August 31st, 2009 at 11:00 am  |  54 responses

Rip City Revival

Jason Quick talks all things Blazers.

by Rasheed Malek

When Jason Quick of the Oregonian talks about the Blazers, he is anything but — for the lack of a better word — quick. He spares no detail.

In this interview, Quick breaks down last season as well as what to  expect this season from the Blazers. He dives into ‘hot-button’ issues like Greg Oden and whether he’s ready to live up to expectations, Brandon Roy and his ascent into superstardom, LaMarcus Aldridge and maximizing his potential and how the Blazers shed the ‘Jail Blazers’ image and brought back fun to Rip City.

SLAM: Give us a general wrap-up of last season for the Blazers.
Jason Quick: Coming into the season, I think everyone’s expectations/hopes were for the Blazers to make the Playoffs. They not only made the Playoffs, they did it emphatically, winning 54 games and tying Denver for the division title. No one expected that many wins or to contend for the division title. And considering they did all that without Martell Webster—an incumbent starter who was injured all season—and without much from Greg Oden, who was injured and uncomfortable all season. So considering all of that, the season was a huge success.

At the same time, they were one-and-done in the Playoffs, which is probably what everybody expected coming into the season. A lot of their flaws were exposed in the playoff series against Houston (lack of toughness, limited scoring options outside of Roy and Aldridge), which seemed to take some of the shine off the season.

SLAM: Going into last season, a lot was still unknown with Greg Oden. Breakdown his progress last season. How did he improve throughout the year? How’s his health this off-season, and what is the organization expecting from him this season?
JQ: The two biggest factors with Greg last season were his injuries, and subsequently, his conditioning. It seemed like he was always fighting an uphill battle with his stamina because of all the little dings and injuries that put him on the sideline. As a result, he was a little slow moving his feet on defense, which led to some silly fouls, which led to foul trouble and some really short nights.

His offense needs a ton of work, but right now, the team just wants him to be a defensive presence. I think he can be a huge defensive factor, simply because for stretches last season he was an immovable defensive force inside. In particular, I can remember games at Toronto and New Orleans last season when his presence impacted the way the game was played. Still, if we are being frank here, I should be able to recall 50 games when Oden was a huge factor. Overall, he was a disappointment, and I think Greg would tell you that himself.

I haven’t seen or talked to Greg this summer, and I’ve heard varying reviews from his participation in Las Vegas with Team USA… Some people thought he looked quicker, some people thought he was still out of shape. So I’m intrigued to see what Greg Oden shows up to training camp.

I will say this: I think Greg cares a ton. Everyone who has trained him raves about his work ethic and I think he took all the criticism and failures last season personally. I think he will be better—much better—this season … I could see averages of 12 points and 10 rebounds this season.

On offense, the team struggled mightily to feed him the ball in the post last season, which began to frustrate him. I think Andre Miller will help in that regard. Still, he has to work on his footwork — he travels all the time shuffling his feet after getting a pass. Plus, for some reason he brings the ball down around his waist far too often—which leads to strips—and for some reason he pump fakes more than Kevin Duckworth ever did. That tells me he wasn’t confident in his surgically repaired knee last season. It might have been fine structurally, but mentally, it’s a process to regain the instinct to explode. I think that’s why all the players who have had micro fracture say it’s a two-year recovery process

SLAM: Let’s talk about Brandon Roy, how good of a player is he? Is he a superstar?
JQ: I think Brandon has clearly established himself as a superstar and firmly carved his place as the NBA’s third best two-guard behind Kobe and DWade. His performances in the Houston playoff series were amazing—the Rockets were smothering him and yet he was still dropping 40 anBrandon Roy & Yao Mingd 30. He has one of the most varied and complete arsenals of moves—step back, duck under, crossover—and he is a great finisher—particularly with his left. Last season, he improved greatly from three-point range. Plus, he is tough. He takes a ton of contact yet gets up every time.

SLAM: What did you think of his contract extension? Fair market value or did the Blazers overpay? How is the organization looking at him to improve and step it up a notch?

JQ: His extension, I thought, was fair—for both sides. For what Brandon has done for this franchise both on and off the court—almost single-handily bringing it out of the dumps—I don’t see how anyone can argue he didn’t deserve the max. Plus, anyone who knows him can attest that Brandon won’t become content now that he’s a big-money player. The Blazers will get their money’s worth out of him. And people who think he is injury prone are simply misinformed. He missed 19 games his rookie season with a heel injury and then four or five games in year two because of a hip injury from a freak collision with Caron Butler, and he had his knee cleaned out, but other than that, he has been a warrior.

The big question entering this season is whether Andre Miller will help or take away from Brandon’s strengths. Brandon has admitted he needs the ball in his hands to be effective. He lives off the pick-and-roll. In his second season, after he started slowly, he asked McMillan to put the ball in his hands more. He was having trouble being effective when he was forced to come off screens to get open. Obviously, Miller is going to need the ball in his hands more, so the natural question is how that will affect Brandon.

I know one of Brandon’s big off-season goals was to work on his game away from the ball. Coming off screens. Catch-and-shoot. Last year, one of his targets of improvement was three-point shooting and he came back much improved. I expect him to be better, therefore, at playing off the ball this season. Plus, I think Andre will help in that transition as well.

McMillan last year lamented that he was calling the team’s late-game go-to plays for Roy in the second and third quarters, simply because the team had exhausted all of their effective options before the fourth quarter. With Miller, teams won’t be able to merely focus on Brandon and LaMarcus.

Still, I don’t think anyone can assume the Miller/Roy backcourt is going to be a good fit. I know this: their cohesion will certainly be one of the most watched dynamics in the early season. And it may not iron itself out until December.

As far as the team’s expectations of Roy improving … I think they would like to see Roy play a more complete defensive game. What I mean by that is Roy has proven he can be a great defender in crunch-time. But he has a tendency to let a first-half drive go unimpeded or not go all out. Part of that is a reflection of how much effort he exerts on the offensive end, but I still think they would like to see Roy play better defense for more of the game.

SLAM: How do you see Miller fitting in with the Blazers? Is his style a compliment to Roy, Aldridge and the rest? What are they looking for Miller to bring to the squad?
JQ: Like I said in my earlier response, I think Andre will alleviate the defensive pressure put on Roy and Aldridge. It was a huge factor in the Houston series—the Rockets simply overloaded on Brandon in particular, and LaMarcus. It led to a lot of forced shots or shots taken under duress. Andre is a proven scorer in this league and he gets to the line a ton, so that threat of penetration and of finding, say, a LaMarcus or Oden on a lob wiAndre Miller & Joel Przybillall give defenses much more to think about than in years past.

Mostly, I think they are looking for Andre to bring some know how, some perspective, some savvy. And that’s not to say Steve Blake was greatly lacking in any or all of those areas. Blake had a great season. I just think Andre is better, and as a result, makes the Blazers deeper and better.

Everyone keeps saying that the Blazers will be able to run more now with Andre. I will believe it when I see it.

As I said earlier, I think one of the biggest subplots to this season is how Miller and Roy coexist. Roy’s biggest strength is having the ball in his hands and busting a pick-and-roll. Can Andre defer like that and still be effective? Or is it Roy who has to adjust and become a better off-the-ball player than he has been in the past? Will be interesting to watch.

Or could this happen… Blake, who is so good at hitting that corner three off a Roy penetration, starts with Roy and Miller comes off the bench where he throws lobs to Rudy Fernandez, Travis Outlaw and Greg Oden? McMillan has been a master in Portland at mixing and matching his lineups to best fit his players.

SLAM: How important of a season is it for Aldridge? He’s eligible for a contract extension soon, is he going to stick for the long term?
JQ: LaMarcus is up for an extension this summer, and his agent, Arn Tellem, is negotiating with the team. LaMarcus has told his agent he wants to lock-up long-term with the Blazers and I suspect that will happen before the October 31 deadline. The kid has All-Star written all over him. The sticking point in the negotiations, I imagine, is that Aldridge’s camp thinks he is an All-Star caliber player and should be paid like one, while the Blazers are a bit apprehensive about paying max money for potential.

At any rate, I think this is the season Aldridge explodes onto the scene. I think he will make the All-Star team—the game is in Dallas, his hometown and that means a lot to him.

SLAM: Is the reputation of being “soft” accurate when describing Aldridge?
JQ: A quick way to piss off LaMarcus is to use the word “soft” when describing him. In fact, he and I have had several prickly conversations about it. In years past, I wouldn’t subscribe to the notion LA was soft, but I wouldn’t discount it either. But I think he has greatly dispelled that theory over the past two years. He has taken his game inside, he has stood up face-to-face against Lamar Odom and last season he literally bitch-slapped Kevin Garnett. The one thing he needs to do better is rebound, and in particular, rebound in traffic.

SLAM: Blazers have one of the best bench’s in the League. How tough of a job is it for McMillan to keep everyone happy with minutes? Fernandez and Outlaw both want more playing time. Will it be an issue or is everything fine as long as they’re winning?
JQ: I always get a kick out of this notion of “keeping players happy.” Last time I checked, this was about winning, not worrying about feelings. If you are good enough, you will be on the court. At the same time, I’m not so naive as to think that a disgruntled player can’t disrupt a good thing in the locker room. I don’t think the Blazers have the type of players who will grumble to the point where it’s a distraction. I’ve been around those types of players plenty in my time here in Portland, and I don’t see them in this locker room. Then again, these players are getting older, some are entering contract years, and some could start taking on that ugly thing called entitlement.

Regardless, you are right. The Blazers’ stable of talent is going to be a sticky situation for McMillan this season. He has 10, maybe 11, legitimate guys who he could put onNicolas Batum the court. Really, it’s tough to play any more than nine in a game. But if you figure the starting lineup to be Miller, Roy, Webster, Aldridge and Oden, then there’s another capable five behind with Blake, Fernandez, Batum, Outlaw and Przybilla. That’s 10, with Bayless being No. 11. That’s pretty deep.

It’s why I fully expect the Blazers to make a mid-season trade this winter. And it will probably involve Travis Outlaw or Martell Webster. I don’t think this team will trade Nicolas Batum right now. They think he can become a star.

Last year, the Blazers’ depth was a lifesaver because they had so many injuries… Webster, Oden and Blake all spent considerable time on the IR. I don’t think you can count on so many guys going down this season. But again, it’s certainly a luxury to start out the season, and I’m sure many coaches would gladly take McMillan’s “dilemma” in exchange for their own lack of talent.

SLAM: Great teams start at the top with a committed owner and great GM. How vital have Paul Allen and Kevin Pritchard been to the success of the Blazers?
JQ: I think Pritchard has done an outstanding job, and I’m surprised at how much criticism he takes from national writers and these “anonymous” general managers. They say he is too cocky, makes unfair trade proposals, and has the luxury of having a rich and willing owner. First off, anyone who knows Kevin can attest that he is one of the most humble, down-to-earth guys around. He’s the type of guy who you could have a beer with and you wouldn’t know he runs the Blazers.

The biggest thing Pritchard has done is create a positive environment. This used to be one of the most toxic, paranoid and deceitful organizations around. He has completely erased all of that. Everyone on the basketball side is on the same page, and his employees would take a bullet for him. There’s just a good vibe around this organization, and I think it’s because everyone is happy and they are happy because Kevin encourages them to do their job.

However, from here on out is when Pritchard’s legacy will be cemented. When he took over, it was pretty easy to see that Zach Randolph needed to go and that Darius Miles needed to be phased out. There was a stoke of genius in his 2006 Draft that started with the Blazers having the 4th overall pick, yet they walked away with Aldridge, Roy and Sergio Rodriguez.

Now that the Blazers are entering their championship window, Pritchard’s next moves can be the difference between a dynasty and coming up empty. Who is better for this team: Travis Outlaw or Martell Webster? Is Bayless worth developing or do you trade him? Was Miller the right free agent call this summer? I don’t know the answer to any of these, but Kevin has been pretty spot-on on most of his decisions.

Of course it has helped having Paul Allen’s pocketbook. But without getting too deep into it, I think people underestimate the challenges of dealing with such a powerful and eccentric person such as Allen. There can be some frustrations. But Paul Allen has been and continues to be one of the best owners in pro sports. He has continually opened his checkbook to make this team a winner. And he is probably one of the more astute owners when it comes to studying talent.

SLAM: How hard and arduous of a job was it for the Blazers to get where they are now from the “Jail Blazer” teams? What were the most difficult transformations to make?
JQ: For certain, it has been a long and hard road for the franchise to reach this point. It started when owner Paul Allen finally saw the light and realized that it was just important to value character as it was to value talent. That realization came around 2003, but it still took some time to show results. Former team president Steve Patterson was charged with restoring order, and it was a difficult and thankless job. Patterson’s legacy in Portland is greatly underestimated, but much of that was due to his self-destructing personality. He had to endure a lot of tough scenarios—layoffs, getting rid of Rasheed Wallace and Bonzi Wells when their market value was far below their true value—and he accomplished those feats as best as anyone could have hoped for. But at the same time, he made some drastic decisions, and didn’t have the confidence, or humility, to admit he was wroDarius Miles & Zach Randolphng. He gave Zach Randolph $84 million. Darius Miles $48 million. Theo Ratliff $32 million. All in the same summer, and all while he had to layoff 98 employees. All three of those players brought more headaches than anything to the franchise. Zach was a ball hog who played no defense, all while being one of the NBA’s most notorious partiers. Darius was a lazy dog, who felt entitled to a starting job once he signed his contract. He became the epitome of an NBA player cashing it in once he signs his guaranteed contract. Just a bad, bad guy to have around. And Theo was one of the first guys to jump the ship when it started sinking, instead of standing up and trying to lead by example. He hid behind some injuries, but there are a lot of people who questioned whether he was really hurt, or whether his real injury was a lack of heart.

I guess what I’m trying to say is that it was a tough transition. Yes, the bad was being exiled when Wallace and Wells were traded, but the team foolishly hitched its wagon to some questionable characters, which included the drafting of Sebastian Telfair at No. 13 … ahead of Al Jefferson, mind you. And that drafting of Telfair was the major reason why the next season the team passed on both Chris Paul and Deron Williams, instead going with Martell Webster.

I still argue that the worst era of the Blazers was when Patterson ran the team. Yes, there were some poor characters in the past, but they were great on the court and it resulted in the Blazers being at or near the top of the West for several years. Under Patterson, the team not only had bad characters, they were awful on the court, and Patterson worked under a cloud of deceit, paranoia and threats.

Pritchard and Nate McMillan should get most of the credit for the positive and successful direction of the franchise today. Once Patterson and his lackeys were fired late in the 2006 season, the reins were handed over to Pritchard, who has changed the entire attitude and mood around the franchise. It started with the drafting of Roy and Aldridge, and then picked up steam with the trade Randolph. Along the way, he backed his coach in determining Darius Miles was not only a cancer, but couldn’t physically help the team, all while created an incredible atmosphere of positivity.

Meanwhile, McMillan was so tough and unmoving in his first years that it became clear it was his way or the highway. He kicked Randolph and Miles out of the team’s first meeting. He openly challenged Ratliff in front of the team, asking him if he was really hurt. He later kicked Randolph out of the team’s first practice. It eventually led to Randolph calling McMillan “Sarge,” a nickname that has stuck and one that McMillan privately enjoys.

So to make a long answer short, it was a long, painful road to get where this team was today. But everyone knew it was going to be that way. I remember McMillan in his first season saying “I never knew it was this bad” … It was that bad, which has made the current success sweeter for the likes of McMillan and Pritchard.

SLAM: What’s the season outlook for the Blazers? What’s expected of them this upcoming season?
JQ: Without question, I think this will be a season of success for the Blazers. They won 54 games last season and I expect them to be greatly improved. Andre Miller should give them experience, play-making, and depth. They also welcome the return of Martell Webster, who is better than a lot of people think. This guy is one of the prettiest shooters around and is a lot better defensively than people give him credit. Also, I think it’s safe to say that Greg Oden will be better, LaMarcus Aldridge should continue to get better, Trail Blazersand Brandon Roy has proven that he adds something to his game every summer. That’s a lot of pluses being added to an already good team.

The question, of course, is whether McMillan can adequately manage all this talent. He has been a master at this in previous seasons, identifying that Outlaw is better at power forward than small forward, putting the ball in Roy’s hands at the point. This season, it sounds as if he plans on implementing Rudy Fernandez a little at the point in an effort to get him more time.

I think this is the season Portland announces its presence as an NBA title contender. I expect them to win the Northwest and advance to the Western Conference Finals. The following year, I think they win the West. The parade is the summer of 2012.

I say all of this because I truly believe Greg Oden is the real deal. There is going to come a time when it clicks with him, both mentally and physically. I think we will see that late this season.

Born and raised in the Bay Area and currently residing on the Peninsula, Rasheed Malek represents the younger demographic of Warrior fans, which, according to Malek, “means I’ve witnessed nothing but bad basketball for most of my life.”

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  • http://www.bartking.net Bart King

    The Blazers have an intriguing array of players and personalities. Especially appreciated is the international flair that Nic Batum and Rudy Fernandez bring to the floor— and the latter has impeccable taste in music: http://tinyurl.com/n8yt6o

  • Ken

    What I would like to know, is what do Blazer fans think everytime they watch Durant play?

  • http://www.alllooksame.com Tarzan Cooper

    grampa oden sucks. pryzbilla is 10x better. ken hit it on the head.

  • riggs

    great interview, and i agree with the oden and R.O.Y. comments.

  • http://slamonline.com Ben Osborne

    One of the best beat writers in the League.

  • http://www.infamousklav.blogspot.com Klav

    living in Portland watching the late 90′s Blazers this decades different teams has been exciting and very disappointing. i’m a Lake Show fan because my family all lives there, but the Jail Blazers is when i had respect for them. i’m glad to see the franchise turnaround, but 90% of the current “Portland” fans over here are all on the bandwagon. and Durant wouldve been fun to watch, but idk how his development wouldve gone with Roy and Aldridge already in the mix. i see a championship coming to this team in the future, but i’m still waiting for a Lakers win at the Rose Garden for the first time in over 5 years. im excited for the season.

  • SA

    @Ken: We cringe. But, at the time, taking Oden was pretty much a no brainer.

  • http://slamonline.com/ niQ

    Brandon Roy is singlehandedly carrying the Blazers.

  • C

    @SA speak for yourself.

  • OG

    I’m a Blazer fan. Have been my whole life. As far as watching Durant, I think this: Man, he’s a great player – in his own right. But would he have been the same if he was playing along Roy? Would Roy have developed into one of the top seven or eight guys in the league? I don’t know the answer to that. But I do know that the Blazers won 54 games with a 50 percent Greg Oden. When he’s at 80 percent, they’ll win 60 games. Period.

  • Tim E

    @ken: what I think every time I see Durant play is that we have that position filled and we haven’t even begun to see what Oden can do. Of course he could turn out to be a bust, but then again, it’s also possible that Durant could end up injured. He’s pretty thin. I’m not saying he’s prone, but anything could happen, and Oden’s got the right attitude. You can’t call it a bust so early. If Oden gains a fraction of confidence and works hard, he’ll be a monster. There are plenty of Durants out there, but there still aren’t as many players with Oden’s defensive presence.

  • Double J

    @ tim e. Ok now you busted me open, how can you say there are a lot of kevin durants out there? this kid is one of a kind, a shooter of exceptional ability, a scorer as ruthless as kobe, and yet just as young as me. it’s sick son, just sick. i don’t doubt oden, i’ve watched his game in college and fell in love with the boy (maybe old man) but damn this guy kevin with lebron is going to be the future of our sport.

  • http://www.infamousklav.blogspot.com Klav

    @Tim i disagree. Oden has had too many surgeries for a guy so young, and even though Durant looks frail he has proven that he can survive an 82 game season. there aren’t plenty of Durants out there, he’s a freak of nature. with Durants capabilities, he easily makes up for other players shortcomings. its possible to see that if Durant was drafted and came along like he has this far, PDX could trade Webster and Outlaw for a big man, or various other possibilities. Oden has not proved anything yet, Durant has. the only thing Oden is close to proving is he is Sam Bowie pt 2.

  • Double J

    I am a Lakers fan through and through, but i live very near Portland have had many interactions with their team and fanbase. Trailblazers are a true powerhouse in the West, and are on the verge of spilling over into a championship team. And I totally agree with what this writer had to say to close his comments. The Blazers will make the western conference finals this year yet fall to the Lakers. Yet, how hard it is for me to say it, I can see them playing us to seven and possibly winning in 2011. 2012 WILL be there year, given Kobe doesn’t finally get another powerful ally. The stars are alligning for LA every summer. I can still see KG pulling on the #21 in purple and gold.

  • http://www.infamousklav.blogspot.com Klav

    @Double J, i’m right there with you, but you’re wrong. KG will never put on a Lakers jersey, and i will be ashamed to be a diehard Lakers fan to know that he did. i hate KG, and i’ll never like him again for being so arrogant.

  • Double J

    @KLAV: i feel ya brother, seeing kg turn celtic and get all wild and plain out stupid was wrong, but you can’t deny the fact this cat is a talented individual who would certainly elevate our team to a team that will win undoubtedly. Kg lost his marbles in boston, but if he’s sane, he’ll sign with LA to become the real deal alongside kobe. he would have signed with us if the trade didn’t go down, damn minnesota, but god how we love memphis…

  • Louie

    The Fakers will go down 0-3 to Rip City in the regular season, and 0-4 in the Western Conference finals. Mark my word.

  • http://digitalthread.com AlbertBarr

    @Louie: No. Even looking at last year, the Lakers beat teams in the playoffs that swept them regular season (Orlando). And with the addition of Ron Artest, there is no way they will sweep the Lakers – Regular Season or Playoffs.

  • Double J

    Cosign Louie, LA will have a tough time with Portland, seemingly all they train for is to beat LA, but c’mon LA is the NOW. we aren’t going to lose this year to some powderpuff youth movement. In 2011 they’ll be tougher and may be able to dethrown a year older, and year less hungry, laker squad in the playoffs.

  • Overtime

    Brilliant insight. One of my favourite teams/franchises right now

  • http://trulyhoops.blogspot.com Collin

    Roy + aldridge + Miller + fernandez + batum + przybilla + outlaw = DOMINATION

  • Matt Mints

    Portland made some stuuuuuupid decisions…martell webster over chris paul???? HA!

  • ben

    @matt mints

    yeah but if we’d taken paul we wouldn’t have roy, aldridge, or oden.

    I’m satisfied.

  • Dave

    The Oden pick was a no-brainer. Any other team would have picked him. You don’t get a chance very often to draft a potential franchise center. Wings are a lot easier to get and therefore not worth as much.

    There have been lots of hall of fame caliber ones, twos and threes drafted in the teens. Very few center prospects are available there. Portland could potentially get someone who turns out better than Durant in any given year. You don’t pass on someone like Oden.

  • J. Nuts

    What do Blazers fans think every time we see Durant play?

    Thank God I don’t live in Oklahoma.

  • dmac

    last i checked kevin durant is in fact on the portland trailblazers squad. he just goes by the name travis outlaw. shake yourself people, durant is just a super lengthy guy that can rise up and get his shot anytime and he is allowed to do so because his team, coach and city are garbage. durant is basically t-law with a giant green light that says do whatever you want. the only thing proven about that formula is that it doesn’t EVER work.

    put the ball in travis’ hands 80% of the game and let him shoot 32 times and i guarantee he avg’s 30pts per. all the while not rebounding, assisting, or playing any respectable level of defense, just like mr. durant does every single night. embarassing given his physical tools.

    oden haters get real. in the end, who do you really think will be grippin’ more rings? anybody that knows anything about the history of the game knows the answer is oden.

  • karlbra

    We have way too much goin’ on, now and as we look to the future, to spend too much time thinking about Durant. Just like everything else great about Portland, we’re onto something and are perfectly happy believing in it on our own. The rest of the world will catch on eventually. And in the meantime, their loss.

  • a6m5

    Oden was a no-brainer for most people, even if it wasn’t for you. I was actually all-Oden(but I’ve followed him since he was junior in high school), but that does not mean I disrespected Durant. I’ve said all long Durant will be a better player than Oden. But you put yourself in Kevin Pritchard’s shoes, and you already have Roy & Aldridge. Do you take Durant, who could turn out to be anywhere between LeBron to Rashard Lewis, or Greg Oden? If you’ve actually followed NBA Finals last decade or two, it actually is a no-brainer…….. unless you are drafting guaranteed Michael Jordan. With the exception of Boston, the worst center on a Championship team since the MJ-era? Ben Wallace. In his prime. And Tim Duncan is a center, I don’t care what they say. lol

    dmac: I’m sorry, but Durant is nowhere near Travis with the green light. It was obvious even before the lottery that Durant was a real deal. But I also think it’s too early to compare Durant to LeBron. I sort of foresee him being better than Dirk, Rashard, but not quite Kobe, or LeBron. But again, it’s premature to judge G.O. or Durant this early in my opinion.

  • http://www.sprint.com/sero dma

    i hate jason quick. how he’s portland beat write still to this day baffles me.

  • dmac

    a6m5 – please, indulge me on how travis’ stats would be so much different if he were on okc taking 32 shots per game. neither of their shot taking decisions exactly sparkle with delight. both simply take a dribble and shoot over people. both have three point range and neither are particularly good at anything else. durant is more skilled, which boggles the mind why he doesn’t impact the rest of the game more profoundly.

    not saying durant is a bad player, but travis could potentially average the same high scoring and sub par everything else given the opportunity and durant could easily be averaging 15ppg and a handful of rebounds for the blazers given the opportunities to be had on a blazer team full of legitimate talent and purpose.

  • ALex Hopper

    Anyone who thinks that outlaw is even remotely as good as Kevin Durant has no idea what they are talking about. second year player averaging 25 points 6.5 rebounds (from the small forward position) shooting nearly 50% with an almost 60% true shooting presentage. This year KD will be the wingle bast scorer in the nba book it.

  • a6m5

    dmac: I think you forget the defensive pressure Durant is playing against. You put Travis in Durant’s situation, in OKC Thunder as the #1 option, he will be double teamed much of the night, every night. Don’t get me wrong, I’m usually the first to defend Travis against the haters amongst the Blazer fans, but one of the first things those critics bring up about Travis is the consistency. While Travis is an awesome 6th man, HE CAN NOT SCORE ON A CONSISTENT BASIS. Fan or hater, anyone who follows Blazers knows this. He also has no stamina, which is why he usually saves his energy to blow up late in the game.

    Durant is already a much better shooter(especially from the 3), scorer, while he’s still years younger than Travis.

    I’m all for good discussion, and I don’t mean to be rude, but to someone who’s followed Travis since his rookie season(when fair weather fans were just staying home every home game), it’s absurd to compare someone who just performs for couple of quarters(most nights, less) to Kevin Durant.

    P.S. Another reason why some fans hate on Travis: Shot selection. He does have the green light from the coach, and they see that as another issue with him.

  • http://www.realcavsfans.com Anton

    Love this team, very exciting, and very likable.

  • g 2 da ner

    g.o. will have a breakout year nxt season.

  • dmac

    a6m6 – a fair weather fan i am not and i believe the same about you. you’re right, it is quite pointless to debate this because you can’t flip flop their situations. And although I may not agree, you make fantastic points and I respect your opinion. all i’m REALLY saying is not that either one of them are bad players, but rather IF durant was on the blazers, his contribution would be comparable to that of Travis’ because ultimately everything runs through brandon and lamarcus and I don’t think that would change. my beef with kevin is that he doesn’t make the guys around him better, which means that at the nba level, he isn’t a winner. b.roy had the blazers at .500 ball in his second year with arguably less talent as a ball player and arguably less talent surrounding him as well. when talking about a superstar caliber guy, doesn’t he at least have to be a winner, or even an all-star? for all those annointing greg a bust, isn’t it a bit too early to call kevin durant a superstar? For now, I put him in the same category as rudy gay, monta ellis, and kevin martin. p.s. i’m pretty sure travis could curl around off the ball screens and get shots up over any defense all day long, but I get what you’re saying.

  • http://myteamrivals.typepad.com/trailblazers/ Don

    Batum will be closer to Durant than Outlaw…Durant will always have a sweeter and more consistent stroke than Batum, but Batum will always be the better (by far) defensive player.

    What do I think about Oden over Durant?

    It doesn’t matter. We have Oden. He’s going to take Portland to the promised land at least twice. How can you hate that?

    I don’t see Durant doing that unless he leaves OKC.

  • jerryx

    The Portland media has two primary goals: Apologize and make excuses for how awful Greg Oden is, and cover Kevin Pritchard’s ass. You see Quick doing both here.

    Nobody cares if Pritchard has been “pretty spot-on with most of his decisions,” when the only decision that really mattered was taking Durant instead of the butterfingered foul machine that is Blowden.

    I find it hilarious that the primary excuse is now “Everyone would have picked Oden.” Well that’s what separates good GMs from crap…the ability to see what the rest of the sheep can’t.

    In fact if you watched Oden at Ohio St, you could see all the exact same problems on a smaller scale that he has now: no post game at all, poor footwork, foul-prone, no jump shot, not even a passable hook, jumping at every pump fake, injury-prone. It was all there, and anyone that really knows basketball could see that playing against inferior college centers was simply masking all those flaws.

    Plain and simple, Oden was not a dominant college center, and anyone that expected him to be a dominant NBA center was ignorant.

    Then again, it’s one thing to have missed that analysis three years ago, but it’s completely unacceptable to have watched Oden compete against NBA centers last year and STILL hold the belief that he’ll be anything more than an overhyped Erik Dampier.

    Name me one NBA center who started with absolutely zero offensive skill — as Oden possesses now — who developed into a dominant NBA center. There are none, and Oden won’t be the first. The Portland media will try and convince you that Oden needs more time to prove himself because they pity him, and they’re trying to keep the heat off their pal Pritchard…who has thus far managed to escape the media scrutiny he deserves for screwing up that pick when Durant was an absolute sure thing, and the red flags on Oden were screaming at anyone willing to look for them.

  • Mongo

    I would love to know if anyone can name anyone in the last 30 years who was the primary ballhandler (in other words, the main star perimeter player) who averaged more turnovers than assists and led his team to a decent record, let alone a title.

    It doesn’t happen. Durant is that sort of player– George Gervin had very similar numbers, though Durant is a much better shooter.

    He is an amazing scorer, but a horrible outright BAD playmaker, and he gets targeted by the other team on defense. I ask anyone to please name any star/main player for a team who suffered from no playmaking ability and was that bad at defense, and somehow led them to greatness.

    It is not an accident that Durant led his team to 23 wins. He doesn’t have a lot of help, but he also is a huge reason for it. If your main ballhandler doesn’t pass, you do not win.

    His lack of playmaking is even more important than his bad defense. You can cover bad defense on the perimeter with strong bigs inside, and hiding him on the weakest enemy player. You cannot hide your primary ballhandler not making plays for others.

    His shooting percentages are insane, his rebounding decent for a SF. Durant will not likely ever lead a team to a good record since he isn’t as good of a playmaker as even guys like VC or McGrady.

    And I know he is young, and will certainly improve. But similar to rebounding, playmaking ability remains constant. Lebron, Jordan, Bird, were always great playmakers. You will not find any perimeter player in the last 30+ years who suddenly became a good playmaker after starting out with no playmaking ability.

    And that is why Durant is only a scorer. And guys who only score, do not win.

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    Good stuff. I like Batum a lot, he’ll be a super solid role player in the future.

  • a6m5

    dmac: I’d never compare Roy to Durant. I’m a student of the game, and Roy has been a hero of mine from the day 1(in the Blazers uni, of course). He is one of the smartest player I’ve ever seen play, and the way he breaks down defense is, IMO, work of art. If he got LeBron-type treatment from the league officials, there would be no way to stop him. No way.

    I do appreciate you respecting my stance on T.O. vs Durant, and like I noted in my prior post, I also believe it’s too early to judge Oden or Durant. Have a great night(or day lol).

  • rog123

    @klav and double j – If u hate garnett, u hate basketball. He plays with so much passion and cares so deeply about the game, offense and defense, not many players care about winning as long as they get their check “I see ya randolph and miles”

  • rog123

    @klav and double j – If u hate garnett, u hate basketball. He plays with so much passion and cares so deeply about the game, offense and defense, not many players care about winning as long as they get their check “I see ya randolph and miles”

  • http://www.sportdime.com Faz

    I picked the Blazers to upset the West last year. But I was only wrong by a little bit. Blazers will be killin’ em this season I’m sure (I hope)!

  • brendon

    All the Oden haters. The Blazers were the only team of 30 who even considered taking Durant #1. And we were laughed at and derided for weeks. There isnt one team including Seattle/Ok City that would have taken Durant at the time over Oden so chill out.

  • Double J

    @rog123: I totally agree with you in the aspect that he cares deeply for the game and plays with passion, but c’mon dude cusses out everyone he gets his hands on. i swear he had a stroke after realizing he was now on a winning team. i once saw him scream and cuss at his mouthpiece after he dropped it from his big, obnoxious mouth. dude needs to get some respect and stop looking like an arrogant a$$

  • paniscus

    The Oden/Durant debate is tired.

  • JamesinVa

    EVERYTHING happens for a reason. If portland had picked up Chris Paul , there is NO way the cards fall like they did and Portland ALSO gets both ROY AND ALDRIDGE. Ill take Roy AND Aldridge over Chris Paul any day of the week.

    Drafting Oden over Durant was based on team needs. Yes Durant is a great player but portland needed more toughness, improvements on defense and rebounding. Go look at the numbers, a 50% Oden actually put up pretty good numbers last year. I expect him to play even better this year.

    As a long time Blazers fan I expect a great season out of them. Winning the whole thing is more of a dream than a reality right now but I am very excited to watch this team grow closer and eventually become world champs in the near future.

  • JamesinVa

    Garnett IS an idiot by the way. Plays with no class. Literally getting on his hands and knees to bark like a dog at calderon and jerryd bayless was some garbage. No tech for doing that? sheesh…

  • a6m5

    Too bad about KG. He used to be someone I respected, someone who REALLY cared about the game. I think it was his last year or two with Minnesota, I started noticing change in his attitude. He seemed to have lost his mind to me, too.

  • Nick

    Kevin Durant is a special player. I consider him to be one of my favorite players to watch.
    But let’s be real. The folks who are pointing to Durant and saying that Portland made a mistake will soon go away. Greg Oden is a large, strong and very quick athlete for any size (Think pre draft camp ’07). We saw what he could make that body do in High School and then in College. It’s MICROFRACTURE SURGERY people. He didn’t just forget how to play. Everyone knew that the learning curve would have been greater for Greg and he’d be behind Kevin for a while at least, even before the knee injury.
    We’ll see what Greg Oden can do.

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