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Wednesday, August 26th, 2009 at 11:34 am  |  147 responses

Rubio Goes to Barcelona

by Ryne Nelson

Sources from (one of) Ricky Rubio’s current clubs, DKV Joventut, is reporting a “trade” with the Spanish team, Regal Barcelona. The $5.3 million buyout will become the most expensive European basketball transfer in history.

Details about when the deal will happen are unknown, but what we do know is that Ricky is a long way away from playing in the League. According to Marca, Rubio will sign a six-year deal with Barcelona. The pact features a progressively decaying buyout clause, making it very possible that he’ll join the NBA after two more seasons overseas.

Roughly translated, check some of the details from the Spanish report:

Ricky Rubio will be a Regal Barcelona player. It will be the most expensive buyout in the history of European basketball: 3.7 million euros (around $5.3 million dollars).

Ricky signed for six seasons with an opt-out clause to play in the NBA. The amount of that clause will progressively decrease.

After playing the second season with Barcelona Ricky will have a buyout low enough to go to the NBA in the summer of 2011.

Rubio’s status with the L-Wolves gets muddier. Will the Wolves retain Rubio’s rights by 2011? Will Ricky demand a trade, as he did with DKV this summer?

At 18 years old, is Ricky Rubio truly good enough to dictate where and when he plays? Guess so.

UPDATE: Yahoo! is reporting that no deal has come to fruition as of yet.

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  • http://www.slamonline.com James the balla

    F()Ck him, let him play overseas. Ya BIG BABY (eddie murphy voice).

  • Enigmatic

    Damn

  • http://slamonline.com Adam Fleischer

    Wow. So it continues. Six years is a damn long time. Any info on how soon can he opt out, Ryne?

  • http://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/RyanG23?ref=profile Ryan G

    that guy is dumb, there is kids out there with dreams of playing in the NBA and he goes to barcelona, pshhhhhhhhhhhh

    gotta B tha money ?

  • http://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/RyanG23?ref=profile Ryan G

    that ent smart lol dont wanna play in the best league in the world ?

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Bye bit*h.

  • http://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/RyanG23?ref=profile Ryan G

    rubio, dont think he is ready?

  • http://slamonline.com/ Ryne Nelson

    Adam, he’ll probably leave in 2011, since the buyout seems to drop significantly at that point. Still, that’s a long time, man.

  • Pancho

    haters! stop doubting him, go to youtube and witness his unique basketball talent.
    This kid is changing the game and will continue to do so for more than a decade.
    Congrats to him

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    I’m actually sick of hearing about him now.

  • underdog

    Barcelona or Minneapolis? No brainer.

  • Ben

    Barcelona is so much nicer than Minnesota.

    Nicer weather, nicer womens

    Good choice

  • WhaHos

    l-wolves

  • Monique

    So all the inner city ballers who get intimidated by the skinny foreign kid can breathe now…lets be honest about it.

  • WhaHos

    I blame Lang. No one would care about Blond Ricky if it wasn’t for him and his meddling Slam magazine

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Cheryl

    Nicer “womens”? where are you from, Ben? :-)
    Anyway, at 18, it’ll probably be good for him and for the L to get a bit more grooming and experience in Europe before coming stateside. Plus, I’m sure we’ll be hearing and watching a lot more of him on TV since he was a 1st rounder this year.

  • Monique

    Ricky can get mentored by Navarro. Can u imagine Ricky’s current passing combined with some of Navarro’s shooting poise. If Ricky gets some meat on his bones, he’d be a force in the league, if David Stern’s dog and pony show league can ever afford him

  • Orlando Woolridge

    Yeah, dude has lost me at this point. He’s on his way to Brett Favre status as far as wishing he would just go away. And everybody talking about the damn weather…c’mon, this is about playing ball in the best league in the world!

  • izzo

    Rubio stays in Barcelona?
    He’s a b*tch anyway, a complete douchenozzle. Here’s hoping his sombrero wearing ass stays in Spain for as long as possible to prevent other NBA players from catching his contagious f*cktardiness. I hope he suffocates in a pancho filled with toxic gases with Kobe’s rap album playing over a Tannoy system. This 18 year old cancer of society would be better suited to playing that pussy-ass fuseball or joining some sort of ghey boyband. I mean what NBA player should have to deal with some guy that goodlooking in their dressing room? Pause. Ricky Rubio, may you die screaming, you sexy excuse for a basketball player. Your very existence gives me kidney stones and worsens my cholesterol. You are the reason my wife hasn’t looked at me in over 4 months and am getting unfavourable performance appraisals at work. It is a FACT that I would beat your ass(pause) in a game of one on one. You can’t even dunk! How dare someone like you, from International have the gaul to be as overrated as you are? Who are you, Andrew Bynum? Unlucky for you, Minny drafted the future hall of famer Jonny Flynn in your stead, so it looks like you won’t be needed at all. What’s that? The fact that before the draft I said that Flynn will never be an NBA starter is completely irrelevant! You suck,
    -
    Signed: Basketball blog Commenters Union.
    -

  • Esco

    I’m waiting for Myles’ take on this…

  • http://www.worldstarhiphop.com The Real

    who cares!!! this kid aint that good. he wouldnt dominate the talent at the Elite 24 that i just watched. What a big waste of hype.

  • http://www.realcavsfans.com Anton

    Ricky Christina Barcelona

  • http://www.worldstarhiphop.com The Real

    it doesnt matter where he is from. the bottom line is that he would not destroy the top level 18 year olds or 17′s for that matter here in the states. the wolves passed up on top level talent for this???? they could have traded his rights for value.

  • http://www.powerforward.nl jelte

    Indeed, the best league there is! Ricky is a great player? Not until he has proven himself in the NBA. Minnesota or LA; it’s the NBA that counts. I’m done with this guy.

  • http://www.infamousklav.blogspot.com Klav

    good thing Kahn picked up Flynn right? LOL talk about having insurance.

  • http://slamonline.com/ Ryne Nelson

    Haha, Anton.

  • http://slamonline BossTerry

    stupid. Heard Sabonis was quite the player back in the day, but was seen by few Americans and by the time he hit the L, his knees were shot and he was 30+ years old.. Wonder if his decision would be different had he been drafted by LA,NY,or Chi.. What a dumb-ass.

  • http://nbacheapseats.blogspot.com Chendaddy

    Haha, I had to get through most of izzo’s comment before I realized what he was getting at. I originally wanted to say he pulled out every single Mexican stereotype and associated it to a Spaniard.

    Anyway, with that insane $5.3 billion buyout, he wasn’t going to make it to the NBA for at least two years anyway. Now he’s just going to get paid (much more than the $90,000/yr chump change for a pro baller Joventut was giving him). His plan of coming to the NBA in two years hasn’t changed. Minny will probably end up paying the max $500,000 buyout, but it would be worth it for a 20-yr old Rubio. This hasn’t changed anything for the NBA. It’s a decision that pretty much affects Rubio only.

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    Izzo: (Pause). LMAO. Comment of the week!

  • tavoris

    wishing I had the patience to go through the NBA draft threads to see what the Rubio Jock-riders have to say now…in two years, he’s not gonna have hype carrying him to a starting NBA job. Hope he turns that set shot into a consistent J by 2011, or nobody’s gonna care about that primadonna.

  • Agent 87

    the NBA may be the best league in the world, but Spain is just behind, and playing for a contender to the euroleague run is far more interesting than a (long) rookie season in minny.

  • Anon

    the comments of uninformed people…..yeesh
    if you hate him so much then ignore him

    really the buyout for a player they pay 90K a year was ridiculous in the first place
    which would have costs the player himself (not anyone else) the entire rookie contract (taxes and fees take off like half of their reported salary). so really playing 4 years for free.

    so you’d have to excuse him for not wanting to work 4 years for nothing

  • http://lastknickstanding.blogspot.com Bryan

    Haha @izzo. I can’t believe grown ass men can be so obscene about an 18 year old kid. Its not his fault a team drafted him knowing he wouldn’t play for them. So now he looks like an assh*le because he stodd by what he said. Which is fine, but how does that translate to he can’t play? The real problem is that these professionals get treated like amatuers when it comes to trying to make the nba, european professional players should not be eligible for an amatuer draft period. Its unfair to our homegrown players who really are playing for free and trying to get a job in the league and its unfair to the players of other pro leagues because they get bogged down by the rookie salary scale. If rubio were a free agent or if he was given permission to seek employment elsewhere instead of being locked into a number 6 overall rookie contract he would have been able to secure a contract that would have afforded his buyout.

  • Orlando Woolridge

    But as a top level talent, wouldn’t you want to showcase your skills at the highest level? If he’s so worried about a “long rookie season”, then I wouldn’t want him on my team anyway.

  • http://lastknickstanding.blogspot.com Bryan

    Explain this logic to me joey american star plays his ass off for four years for free and if he goes undrafted because a euroleague vet took his spot , he’s unemployed . But take that euroleague vet and let him go undrafted and guess what? He’s still getting PAID in euro club ball and somehow its ok? It makes no sense to me.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    So, is the Minnesota GM still an idiot for drafting Johnny Flynn, or does it make sense now?
    And we all know Ricky would have found a way to deal with that buyout if the Knicks, not the T-Wolves had drafted him. Oh well.

  • Young C

    Some people need to grow up. What’s with all the Rubio hate. Its not like hes staying in Europe because he doesnt want to play in Minnesota(although that wasnt his first choice). He’s doing it because he had a SIX MILLION DOLLAR BUYOUT!!! What, do you want him to do? Play for free for the duration of his rookie contract? He’d get some endorsements to offset that, but its not like he’s LeBron getting a 100 million from Nike before hes played any games. And now he’s a primadonna because he has a rediculous,unprecedented buyout and he’s trying to get it solved? Has he been hyped up too much? Possibly, but its not his fault if people are comparing him to Maravich and Steve Nash. Some people really need to stop hating

  • salamiandcheese

    HE IS STILL IN EUROPE, BECAUSE HE CANT AFFORD TO COME TO THE NBA!

    everyone callin him a baby needs to shut up, its not like you have millions of dollars to just go and play in the nba either, maybe i should call you names

    fact is, this is all the fault of the thunder, grizzlies and kings, had they not passed on him he would have had a better contract and been able to come over and play, FUCK DAVID KAHN

  • izzo

    Bryan: Where do you think undrafted American players go?

  • dave

    i hate hearing about ricky… maybe i’ll care when he decides to come back to the NBA.

  • Arvids

    His buyout to NBA was 6.6M USD. Wolves pay those 0.5M and Ricky is left to pay 6.1M from his own pocket. There is no way he is making any money in his first 2 years in NBA then as he has to put all of that money to pay for his buyout to Joventut. Call him spoiled or any other word that you can imagine, but eventually he would be on a losing side here and would be mocked about it heavily anyway. Now he does not have to pay buyout. He can get paid and most probably paid real good in Spain. NBA will not go away in 2 years. Had he been drafted 2nd or 3rd – it would have been a whole new story, but salary drop from 3rd to 5th is rather big and was the main problem for Ricky here. I have seen the guy play here in Europe long enough to know that he is still a work in progress, but so are most 18yo players. He still can work in jumper, he still can build up frame to be more competitive and if he does those things – he will be one hell of a rookie in 2011…

  • http://slamonline.com/ niQ

    Yea, I’m tired of hearing about his sorryarse. What was the point of entering the draft in the first place. Waste of time and space.

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the balla

    Pancho… he is changing the game? Explain!!

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Izzo made my week. I’m still tired of hearing about Rubio, though.

  • tavoris

    Bryan, the difference is that is Rubio indicated IN THE LEAST that he was interested in playing for the T-Wolves, somebody somewhere would have lent him the money necessary for the buyout. As long as no more than 500K comes from the Wolves, it’s perfectly legit. Publicly, he’s been diplomatic about it, but he’s made no secret of his dissatisfaction with the prosptect of playing in Minny. He gets hate up here because he’s a polarizing type of player, and will continue to get it until he PROVES himself hype-worthy on basketball’s biggest stage.

  • http://slamonline.com/ niQ

    @Allenp, I still think Minni should have drafted a shooting guard ala stephen curry or demar derozan. But I’m just glad Raptors got him.

  • http://lastknickstanding.blogspot.com Bryan

    Yeah izzo, they go to europe on their own accord, some euro team doesn’t draft them. Can the yankees draft someone from somebody elses farm system in baseball? There should either be a supplemental draft for players from other pro leagues or they should just be free to sign contracts.

  • tavoris

    TADOne…izzo’s comment was freaking hilarious…and I didn’t make it past the first eight words…lol

  • izzo

    Bryan:If I was in charge, I’d just do away with the draft altogether. I don’t disagree with you.

  • http://www.anwilson.blogspot.com rainman10

    All I know about Rubio is what I have seen in some youtube clips, read about in SLAM, saw in the Olympics, and heard U.S. players say he was a real talent when they played against him. He is only 18, and can still be playing in the NBA before he is 21. Knowing the commenters here on SLAM, if Rubio was playing for the Wolves and averaged a very respectable 8 and 5 with a steal or 2, these cats would be all over him saying he should have stayed in Spain and that he isn’t good. Rubio would get hated on no matter what he did, so maybe dude just wants to stay a while and make a little money where people like him. The buyout thing would’ve been crazy, who knows how much he would really be making in Minnesota.

  • http://slamonline.com Adam Fleischer

    @Izzo: Sombreros are from Mexico, not Spain.

  • playboi

    All i know about rubio is that he’s extremely overrated. A backup pg in EUROLEAGUe averaged 10pts 5 ass 2 steals in 20 min is worth a top 5 pick?? thats hilarious, as darko had better stats in less time back in ’03. He’s gonna be a bust anyways, stop talkkin about the spaniard.

  • http://lastknickstanding.blogspot.com Bryan

    Its weird because rubio looks exactly like my brother.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    I want a puppy.

  • http://www.anwilson.blogspot.com rainman10

    yo playboi how do you feel about Brandon Jennings?

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Do people think that Rubio only learned the amount of his buyout after he entered the draft?
    Seriously, even if he was drafed FIRST he would have only earned about $3 million under the rookie scale. He still would have had to come up with another $3 million to deal with the buyout.
    So, are y’all really arguing that he didn’t factor the buyout into his decision when he decided to entere the draft? Thats’ utterly ridiculous.
    Simple truth is that Rubio was banking on either getting drafted really high and sucking it up, or going to the perfect market to get endorsment deals.
    He shot snake eyes and got drafted fifth by a Minnesota club that was going to make him compete for the starting job instead of handing him the reins. He made a business decision and said, “Screw ‘em.”
    I don’t have a problem with players making business decisions, but lets not pretend. Rubio’s entry into the draft was either really stupid or a coldly calculated choice. There is no in-between.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Allen’s smart.

  • izzo

    He was really naiive in his approach to the draft and made stupid decisions subsequently. Either way he made a mistake in entering the draft this year. He should have just been able to join the free agency.

  • http://lastknickstanding.blogspot.com Bryan

    That’s what I’ve been saying all along izzo.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Shia, you’re getting soft in your old age.

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the balla

    I want to know how he changed the game, like Pancho said!

  • http://www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    What is the perfect market for endorsement deals?

  • http://lastknickstanding.blogspot.com Bryan

    Haha damn.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Cosign James.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    NY, NY.

  • izzo

    Co-sign Eboy.

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the balla

    Thanks Eboy lol. Because if Pretty Ricky has changed the game, what has Tyron Lue done for it?

  • http://www.basketsession.com t2c.wah

    Ricky is going to the nicest city of all Europe (sorry Paris, Berlin, Rome & London but it’s true) + the Barça is a way better team than the L Wolves + is going to make serious €uro money + in 2 years he will be only 20 & we’ll pay off his buy out & will take on the NBA in Minnesota or anywhere else… OR he’ll stay in Barça like his new teamate Fran Vasquez who was drafted by Orlando @ #10 a few years ago…
    Who needs the NBA?

  • alapatrick

    why declare for the draft if your not gonna play for that team!

    what a diva and a douche

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Look, I’m over hating these cats (Kobe, Ricky, whoever)but to hype this dude up so much and then he basically plays the “well that place (team) sucks, so F them” it’s hard to rally behind dude like he’s going to come to the US in 2 or 3 years and do things never before seen like some of these dudes are spouting off about. It’s not going to happen and Ricky will be a project player his first couple of seasons here to begin with, so by that time, he’ll be 24-25 and really not the bright young megastar many are making him out to be today, at least in the NBA. Not to say that he can’t become one (a megastar) but he’s going to be running against some incredible point guard talents that will be in their primes here by that time and he’s going to HAVE to be as good as Youtube-promised to be even sniff being mentioned as a premier point here.

  • alapatrick

    dont declare for the draft if you dont intend on playing for the team you get drafted for

    what a diva!

  • luv2ball

    AllenP,

    I think Rickys’ American agent advised him to come out this year because it was a weak draft. Had he got drafted one or two he would make 4.1 mil for #1 and I think 3.7 for #2 http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=9301is the rookie scale. After taxes yeah he would have made only 3 mil maybe. He would have been able to be more comfortable at the 1 or 2 spot as the 5 spot pays 2.7 mil. Myles, a perfect endorsement market would be a place like D.C, NYC, or LA which have huuuuuge Spanish (from Spain) populations. Or an international city like Toronto. Unlike Minneosta where there is a huge Slavic population.

    I blame this on his handlers, like 3 years ago when they signed his contract with Joventut, did they not read the fine print? Or know the NBA rules on buyouts? Who the hell has a 6 million buyout on a 90k salary?

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    Like Allen said, what bothers me is that he went from ”it’s my dream to play in the nba, i’ll play for free if i have to” to ”the buyout is too big for me to come right away”. Like the buyout was some random number that was thrown at him at the last minute. Anyways, this is my last comment on Rubio until he actually gets to the L.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Bryan and Izzo
    I’m unclear on something. Was Rubio forced to enter his name in the draft to be eligible to play in the League? Is is that way for all foreign players?
    Anyway, if we are advocating for foreign players to be allowed to sign as free agents, than I think all players should be allowed the same privilege. The reason why we have a draft is to allow wack teams first shot at the best young players. If those rules don’t apply to foreigners, why should they apply to Americans?
    Everybody should be a free agent. But then we would have an even crazier competitive imbalance, and we would go back to the days of ridiculous initial contracts like the one Larry Johnson signed.

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the balla

    Co sign Eboy!!

  • http://www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    There is no perfect market. Chicago was practically a wasteland before Jordan. Bron seems to be doing alright for himself in Cleveland, which actually is a wasteland. And contrary to popular belief, Minnesota is just as good as those other two places when it comes to endorsements. Guess where Best Buy, Target, General Mills and Northwest Airlines have their corporate headquarters? And I seem to remember Minnesota making Kevin Garnett the highest paid player in the league during his stay here.

  • Anon

    I’m curious
    so many players complained their way out of a situation before
    are you fans of these players?
    because if you are you’re being a Hypocrit

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Myles, maybe you’re right, but clearly Rubio and his people didn’t think it was the right place for him to make enough money to cover the buyout.
    Or maybe he just really hated the idea of playing for Minnesota.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    I’m not sure who Anon is addressing, but I’ll answer for myself, how many of the “many players” you are referencing did it before playing a single game in the league? How about ANY league in this country? A college? A junior college? A high school? A YMCA? A church league? A work league? A playground? Nada? I can think of three incredible Euro talents in the league today (maybe the three best, Dirk, Manu, Parker) and I can’t remember any of them entering the league with primadonna attitudes before they wore a draft cap.

  • http://slamonline.com Lang Whitaker

    I love the L-Wolves.

  • Anon

    well not really talking about that just in general
    because the “situation” with that NBA team was bad so they got out by forcing a trade or buyout

  • izzo

    What does it matter if he played in the US or not? He played in the second best League in the world and developed with pros. Is the fact that he has the power not to put himself in a position he doesn’t want to unlike the US rooks make him a primadonna? Not really. You can spout ‘that’s the system’ all you want put players flaunt and take advantage of the system all the time with people supporting them in their ‘getting paid’. He’s not even media savvy enough to have acted like that. It’s getting more and more obvious why people really don’t like him.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    They just make you feel better about the Lawks.

  • Anon

    FYI this thing isn’t 100%
    and you’re slamming a guy who hasn’t even said anything about being traded to another team

  • Anon

    Eboy, Steve Franchise is the only player I can really think of!!

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    What’s the reason people don’t like him, izzo? And no, it doesn’t matter if he played a game here, but in the court of public opinion and more importantly, the American court of opinion where the dollar revenue is generated for the league, if you haven’t made your name here, you’re considered a bust of a pick 8 times out of 10 coming from Europe, or have you never watched a live NBA draft and heard the crowd sitting in Madison Square Garden reacting to the vast majority of Euro players picked ?

  • Anony

    Kobe Bryant too LMAO

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the balla

    Man the last comment wrote by anon was me. The Steve franchise one. I don’t know why I wrote as him!!

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the balla

    Okay … I keep writing as other people when I go to send. Gay sauce!

  • http://www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    The only reported complaint that makes even a smidgen of sense to me is that he didnt want to pay out just to compete with Flynn for a starting spot. But even that seems silly since its the NBA. Hes going to compete for a spot wherever he goes. But money, endoresements and exposure are a weak excuse at this point. Im disappointed with this development since its tough to build around a player that may never show up, but ultimately I believe that with Flynn, Jefferson, Love and a ton of cap space to entice a quality free agent next summer, Rubio will feel differently about the situation by the time 2011 rolls around.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    I agree with Myles and I think if Flynn pans out, Rubio would have a hard time passing him on the depth chart two or three seasons down the line although they might be able to work in some form of tandem for minutes at a time.

  • la huey

    Is it just because its the offseason and we’re bored or would all the Rubio haters spew this much hostility towards a teenager? He didn’t manufacture the hype and you can’t blame him for enterting the draft when his stock was so high. And surely, you can forgive a kid for not completely understanding the terms of his contract.

  • Darko

    There are guys in Canada and American and the rest of europe busting there asses off to get into a professional league and along comes this teenager telling people who he will play for and when…. Damn!!!!

  • izzo

    “if you haven’t made your name here, you’re considered a bust of a pick 8 times out of 10 coming from Europe, or have you never watched a live NBA draft and heard the crowd sitting in Madison Square Garden reacting to the vast majority of Euro players picked?”
    -
    But isn’t that ridiculously stupid?

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the balla

    Very stupid, but MSG boooooo’s everyone lol!!!

  • http://lastknickstanding.blogspot.com Bryan

    Allenp, it should no work for us born AMATEUR PLAYERS. People from the cba or usbl or whatever the f*ck other leagues can sign anytime with an nba team, players like randolph morris who finish their amateur careers can sign but if you’re a professional player getting paid to play already you shouldn’t have to regress into a draft pool, unless its a supplemental pro league draft.

  • http://lastknickstanding.blogspot.com Bryan

    It should not work for US (united states) amateur players. But I will also say if they have euro amateur leagues those guys can get drafted.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    izzo, it is, but you know the perception on your side of the world of the vast majority of American’s, right?

  • adams

    He will lose his first two annual salaries to pay the buyout and play in the NBA. Let’s assume he could earn a modest 2 million a year with Barca, then it’s basically 9 million bucks he would lose to play in Minnesota (of all places) the next two years. All while not being really sure that he will make it, stay healthy, like living in the US etc. If he stays in Spain (at home!) he can earn 4 million and then come over at age 21, what’s so bad about that? I would really like to see him play in the NBA this year, but I see how this might not be the best decision for him.

  • adams

    Eboy, I don’t really see any negative prejudice toward American ATHLETES in Europe. I’ve never heard any negative stereotypes about American players in European football, there may not be enough of them over here to generate such stereotypes, though. American basketball players here a generally treated like superheroes, even if they’re not really good at all.

  • adams

    I may be going a little too far off topic here, but I was very surprised recently, when I read “The Breaks of the Game”. The author mentions that up until the early sixties (if I remember correctly) there was a widespread stereotype in the US about black athletes not being clutch or mentally strong in general, weak defensively etc. Pretty much the same stuff that’s been said about international players in the last decade or so.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    FYI, Rubio hasnt signed a contract with anyone yet.

  • http://slamonline.com/ niQ

    Can’t he get a loan then play in the L? :P

  • tavoris

    geez..this thread may have gotten to 100 comments in record time…

  • http://slamonline BossTerry

    @Izzo’s 11:59 am comment….. Amen!

  • http://drexlerwasabeast.com nbk

    This is not true

  • someone

    Rubio goes to Barcelona… walking. As he walks or takes the underground he sits in the waggon and looks around and thinks how the awful women he can’t watch become amazing ladies 10 minutes later… And the weather upstairs, Ben… not to mention. 10 minutes is an atmospheric eternity…

  • http://staticseth.blogspot.com/ Seth

    This is not the Rubio news I was hoping to see. Thank you Minnesota for screwing this up for everyone anxious to see the kid play in America. Well, at least my DKV jersey is now retro. Everyone likes retro.

  • Big D

    how long until he can opt out of that 6 year deal? Nice pick-up Kahn.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Bryan
    Why shouldn’t the rule apply to amateur players?
    What’s your logic for why that’s fair?
    A regular citizen can leave school at any time and become a profesional. Why would you deny that right to college basketball players, but grant it to young foreign players?
    My thoughts are that the League has a draft so that the worst teams have the most opportunity to draft the best players. It doesn’t matter where those players are from.
    If you’re going to force college players to abide by the rules, why change them for foreign players?
    Izzo
    I think you were hinting that the reason people dislike Rubio is xenophobia. Maybe you’re right. But, initially, he was getting a LOT of love from most people. It’s only his recent waffling that’s driven people crazy.
    Personally, I don’t have a problem with his decision. It’s a smart business decision. I have a problem with the PR spin some cats have tried to put on the decision and the repeated attempts to absolve him of blame. I’ve heard people bashing his foreign team, the T-Wolves, his agent, his parents, everybody.
    Put it this way, Rubio is the same age as OJ Mayo was when he was making his moves to get in college. Nobody has cut Mayo any slack when it comes to bad decisions he made.
    Rubio made an adult decision. Until somebody proves that he only made that decision because people forced him, then I’m going to assume that he acted like a man, and he should be treated like a man. The end.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Check out the comment by Seth for a prime example of what I’m talking about.

  • izzo

    Allen: I was probably more outspoken for OJ Mayo at the time, I even wrote a piece about it on my old blog. I just there is a mob mentality with Rubio. I don’t like mobs.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    A feeling we share.

  • http://fdjsklf.com Jukai

    Is it a good time to comment that the L-Wolves are screwed cause Flynn will never develop into anything more than a decent bench player?
    No? Not a good time?
    Okay, I’ll wait. Go on, everyone.

  • http://fdjsklf.com Jukai

    Allen: Izzo’s not entirely wrong here. There’s been some downright racist comments about Rubio.
    On the other hand though, you’re right as well. Easy Yi didn’t get anywhere near the hate Rubio is getting when Yi was trying to get himself out of Milwaukee.
    So it’s clearly a combination of both. Which is never a good thing.

  • http://lastknickstanding.blogspot.com Bryan

    To a certain extent they do allen, I think you’re missing my point I think foreign professionals should be ineligible for the draft because they are already pros and likely already have agents and contracts and stuff. If anything it helps amatuer players here in the states if something like this happened because there are more spots to be drafted if you removed the euroleague and other league players from the pot.

  • http://lastknickstanding.blogspot.com Bryan

    if a minor league baseball player isn’t eligible for the mlb draft then why should players from lesser pro leagues ? It makes no sense. This draft should be used on college and high school level players only . They can do it one of two ways make every foreign league vet act as free agents or have an entireley different pro draft for pro players.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Bryan
    I understood your point. I think the problem is that foreign players become professionals so much earlier. I also think there’s the question of maintaining competitive balance.
    If the foreign pros could always negotiate their own contracts, I think we would see a situation where the best teams would load up on good players.
    However, I think you have a great point about how it’s unfair that professionals are forced to get “drafted.” I just think that correcting that problem would create more problems.

  • http://www.manutd.com Zaal

    Bryan, then kids here will pull a Jeremy Tyler and sign a one year contract overseas the year before they become eligible for the NBA draft then sign on an NBA team as a FA. I know that’s what I would do. / For the record, I’m an equal opportunity hater: I hated it when Franchise did it. I hated it when Yi tried to do it. I hate it when Rubio tries to do it. The draft is made for the weak teams to get the best talent. How fun would the league be if guys like Wade, Bron, Melo, CP3, Dwight all ended up in big markets/marquee teams like NY, LA, Chi, Bos, Mia?

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the balla

    Hey Jukai. lol

  • http://www.myspace.com/freedmusic fredd

    i think i’m way too naive .. i don’t understand … a player presents himself to the nba draft, it’s HIS choice …. and finally decides ( contracts or not ) to stay in europe, plus sign a SIX YEARs contract …. amazing ……

  • andynorstrom

    this guy needs to get his priorities straight, Minnesota or not- the NBA is the NBA. Its the best league in the world. Then again, maybe he’s just putting coming to the League on hold until he is actually good enough to play there… I have seen this guy play and to be honest i think he is over-rated

  • http://fdjsklf.com Jukai

    Hey James, wuttup

  • http://fdjsklf.com Jukai

    If you want my two cents, I really think the only reason to be mad at Rubio is the way he conducted himself pre-draft. His refusal to try out in OKC and Memphis guaranteed he wouldn’t be drafted in OKC and Memphis. His baffling behavior in Sacramento (being a real b*tch about private work-outs, being a bit demanding about playing time and not giving a guarantee he’d be playing in the states) made Sac-town pass over him, and his own rant about “only playing in Cali and New York” made Minny worried enough to grab the lesser Flynn just incase.
    So yeah, Rubio made his own bed, now he has to sleep in it.
    I’m NOT sure why you’d be mad at Rubio for deciding to stay in Europe though. He is contemplating signing a six year deal but would probably be out of it by the same time he’d be done with his current contract and playing in the NBA. Other players have done this in the past, other players have been demanding about where they want to play (it goes back way before Francis and Kobe… I’m talking Maravich, Barry, Dr. J) and it’s sort of odd to really crucify Rubio over it. I can get some “haha, serves you right” responses since this really IS all Rubio’s fault, but for real, why all the hate?
    I’m still waiting for someone to tell me how bad Rubio’s defense is.

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the balla

    Chillin’. Co sign Jukai. Rubio acted like a punk to some of those teams. The main fact is, there are enough people around Rubio to know who was going to get the top picks in that draft. If Rubio didn’t want to play for most of them, and also didn’t want to work for playing time amongst other guards. Then why even go in the draft? To go in the draft, and get chosen high enough that any true basketball fan would kill for, and then stay in Europe … I can see why people are ready to hang the kid!! I was hoping to see him flop in the NBA because I am not a fan of this kid, ecspecially now. But after this, I just hope he stays in Europe.

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the balla

    Hopefully Minny doesn’t trade him to a solid team for nothing.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Blinguo

    Rubio’s defense is soo bad they would trade him for Shaq, even though he clogs the lane. /1-2 drums 3-cymbal
    -
    Granted the TRADE HIM FOR SHAQ riggs masterpiece should just go in the Beasley mourning stuff now…

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Blinguo

    Is this the closest the North American fans can get to the uproar that occurs with soccer fans and futbol hooligans alike when their superstars back stab and move to different ball clubs?
    Nobody cared about Beckham outside of LA scene kids, and uh KG getting sucked into it to watch a few games in a box suite, and when he was loaned out, it barely made ripples. Galaxy bandwagon fans, gone. And Rubio isn’t even a proven superstar with those major contracts yet either in his league. Those buyouts being taken on by new teams are a start in that direction though.

  • http://fdjsklf.com Jukai

    James: please don’t co-sign me, you missed my point completely.

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the balla

    Naw naw, I agreed with you but through in my points on understanding why people don’t like him. But I get what you are saying and agree.
    And is Rubio’s defense really that bad? My biggest thing on his game is zero jump shot!

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    I want me a Rubio jersey.

  • chintao

    Damn, I can’t remember what I was going to say. I think it had something to do with Myles and a crow….

  • http://slamonline BossTerry

    So, a guy can make himself eligible for the draft, cross his fingers that a certain team picks him, and then when it doesnt happen, he says F it and not show up at all.. This system makes no sense whatsoever..

  • GJ BC

    Minnesota must feel like asses right now.

    oh well, they have flynn.

  • JoeMaMa

    Everyone has had their thoughts on Rubio, the money owed, and the situation in general.
    EXCEPT, I haven’t heard anyone’s opinion on the shadiness of the buyout itself.
    How could such a massive buyout exist for someone who’s getting paid 90k a season? How could that possibly stand up in court? That has to be considered exploitative and completely unethical by the organization. Why aren’t we directing our hate towards an organization that has pimped out a teenager, who they paid peanuts, so they can get rich? Do NOT hate the player. Hate the game, please!!

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ Tariq

    izzo:
    Kudos on your masterwork of a comment (11:59). I think I’m developing a healthy man-crush on you. (Pause). Quick question: When you say “How dare someone like you, from International have the GAUL to be as overrated as you are?” Did you misspell “gall” or did you MEAN to type “gaul”. Because if you meant to, man, you’re a f*cking genius.

  • Son of Shawn

    This is only abot the NBA´s STUPID RULE “you only can paid 500K to a foreign club to obtain a player”, in what f*cking world you prefer to pay for playin´ in Minny nowadays?, I won´t appreciate all those opinions of people who didn´t watched at least five of his games, if the kid were a bust, will an Euroleague semifinalist pay 5,3 M to obtain him?

  • ED

    Izzo is a bit(h ass and all of you guys hating too; stop judging the young dude and let him take his own decisions. Putting such long posts to hate on the man, you gotta be fu(king desperate son lol

  • Noname

    To JoeMaMa:
    Team rules are very different in europe than in the states. It’s not shaddy, it’s how is made in europe. In europe you have a contract with the team and teams are free to pay as much as they want to other teams if they want to end a contract before it expires so having a big buyout clause is usual.

    For example in Soccer, this summer Real Madrid paid 134 million dollars to Manchester United for Cristiano Ronaldo. His new salary is 18.5 million dollars per year, but his buyout clause is now 1.4 Billion dollars.

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ Tariq

    ED: izzo is mocking those who are hating on rubio.

  • caoneidaren

    whenever he is ,I will support him forever!!
    Come on!Ricky!
    Try your best!Be confident!I believe you will succeed!!

  • http://www.manutd.com Zaal

    Shaw, I understand your argument but that’s like saying if Erick Dampier were such a bust, would someone pay him 10 mil per?

  • LCD screen cleaner

    My money is that nobody posting here, in Rubio’s shoes, would have the balls to make the decision to go to Minny. I’m disappointed that he didn’t, I understand why he did.

    So he makes the VERY AMERICAN decision to say, “FUCK the risks, gimme my money”, and he gets hate from these quarters? I’m getting tired of these halfway-haters, who don’t think before they hate.

  • LCD screen cleaner

    To be perfectly clear, you can hate the hype, but you can’t hate the man.

  • yungchance

    tht sux there was all this hype about him bein the most talented rookie PG and now he’s not even playin in the NBA

  • JoeMaMa

    Noname:
    I guess it’s a different player union/owner relationship between the states and Europe. But when this first started the buyout was never really an issue, because I think the Rubio family thought they could get it substantially lessened. No deal…and no one’s really talking about that. I’m pretty sure a small buyout = Ricky in tundra.

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