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Tuesday, August 11th, 2009 at 10:30 am  |  91 responses

Sir Charles on the ‘Superstar Attitude’

Barkley knows what kind of mentality an NBA superstar needs to have, and explains it in his own inimitable way: “Regarding Dirk Nowitzki and how he gave credit to his defenders during the second round of the playoffs versus Denver: ‘If a guy was sleeping and thought he could stop me, I’d go over to his house in the middle of the night and slap the hell out of him. If he even was dreaming about the fact that he could stop me, I would go to his house, and I’d just walk in his room and slap the hell out of him, and say, ‘Wake up.  Don’t even think you can guard me.’  That’s the mentality you have to have if you’re gonna be a superstar in this league.”’

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  • carter

    I love chuck

  • http://lastknickstanding.blogspot.com Bryan

    He’s exactly right about dirk.

  • http://www.slamonline.com wayno

    LMAO…funny stuff. Gotta love Chuck.

  • jay

    and then he had a drink and put all his money on “red”….

  • http://www.another48minutes.blogspot.com Gerard Himself

    I read that article, for those of you who didn’t: do it. He has some more funny (but true) quotes in there (as usual!).

  • German Reignman

    ” I would have driven to his house and on the way …. I would have been stopped for DUI and for trying to pay for $e><… thats Superstar Attitude” he did not neccessarily add

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    “If a guy was sleeping and thought he could stop me, I’d go over to his house in the middle of the night and slap the hell out of him” By the way he said it, i am guessing he has done it before…

  • Nakware Howard

    I gotta agree with chuck you gotta believe there is no one on the court even close to your skill level

  • jk_light

    I know that Dirk could be mentally stronger but what did Dirk do against Denver in that second round? Averaged like 34 points.

  • danny

    and lost.

  • http://nba.com vongustedt

    he did as much as he could, is team mates didnt do shiznit

  • http://www.facebook.com mat smith

    Chuck is killer, Dirk is killer queen, shot down by a laser beam, (not) guaranteed to blow your mind.

  • Izzo

    Is that the same attitude that lists ‘bl*wjob seeking’ as an ok excuse for drunk driving, Chuck?

  • http://djsklfl.com Jukai

    Andddd the gambling and blow job jokes were taking before I could post. Way to go, guys.

  • http://Www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    Oh really, fat guy? Guess MJ spent lots of time slapping you around while he was beating you all through the 90′s? The superstar attitude entails telling cops you are breaking the law and DUI’ing to go “get the best BJ of my life”, then being a jackass on TV, spending time in jail, being a betting/casino addict? You know what, “Chuck”? Maybe you wanna shut the hell up and sit this one out, mmkay? First he (unjustly) takes credit for “discovering” Dirk Werner, now this lame attempt to stay media-relevant in the offseason? Pathetic. Go sip on some more jim bean, Charles. You are not half the man Dirk is (actually he’s twice the man…. In width). And to the Slamonline Dirkhater fraction: tired arguments, guys. And soooo not factual.

  • http://Www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    Good one, Juks.

  • ngoiekafita

    Darksaber must kinda love Dirk it seems :D

  • HangTime Hec

    What do Blowj*ps, and gambling have to do with the qoute? He is right, people forget that there is a line between the good players and the great ones. Dark Saber isnt really reading into what he said.

  • http://slamonline.com cb 34

    Dark: Don’t be dissing chuck cause he speaks the truth. That is the attitude you need to have to excel in their world. He was telling denver what they were doing was working despite him averaging 34. It was just something he didn’t have to say. All he did was fuel the fire. And chuck was one of the first to talk about dirk back then. No he didn’t discover him but he talked about him back when nobody’s heard of dirk. Charles says a lot of things but if you sit back and think about it, 9 out of 10 he’s right!

  • http://Www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    You mean you rate a virtually unguardable 7 footer who handles the ball, hits percentages of 46/90/40 and has decided a bunch of games, raised his scoring average in virtually every playoff series he’s played and made shots allover Denver’s vaunted frontcourt in the 09 playoffs AND singlehandedly raised the level of his national team as GOOD? Seriously, hangtime?

  • HangTime Hec

    Co sign cb 34. The truth is not always pretty. But am glad chuck says it anyway.

  • http://Www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    Whatever… Chuck is just yet another has been star who can’t let go. I’m done with this. I’m sure he would have slapped any of the following players who at different times in their meetings did stop/limit him: Anthony Mason, Oakley, Xavier, Rodman, Horace Grant. Yeahhh, It’s quite logical he would have the guts to slap those guys.

  • http://Www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    And yes, i defend Dirk. I’ve met him, multiple times. Nicest nba star i ever talked to. And i love the skills, ngo. So? Am i any different from the legion of Kobe-maniacs in here, most who haven’t even ever shared time with their messiah in yellow/purple?

  • HangTime Hec

    No. OF COURSE NOT. What am saying is, that sometimes a player holds himself back from truly being the best. If he dosnt think that he is the best, why should I? If that is the mentality that he has, that he can be guarded and stopped shouldn’t that be held against him?

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Darksaber
    You taking the comments of an old fat guy and random people on the internet way too seriously.
    And that’s coming from a man who regularly engages in drawn out debates online with morons about a future Hall of Famer who has his own set of detractors.
    Just let it go homie, sometimes people are going to think what they want. Only argue when it’s about facts, not about emotions.

  • http://www.sonicbids.com doyouwantmore

    Because if anyone knows what it takes to be a superstar, an MVP, and not win a ring it’s Chuckles Barkley.

  • http://Www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    Hangtime, there has never been an unguardable player in basketball. For every MJ scoring binge, there’s a Joe Dumars or Gerald Wallace / John Starks combo forcing him into 11-33 shooting nights. I was always my team’s “stopper” and prided myself in studying the other team’s topscorer to the point that i could limit his scoring. It can be done. The whole “unguardable” myth is good for one thing only, building up your selfconfidence, i.e, a motivational tool. Charles is kidding himself when he thinks HE was unguardable. He was a handful, just like Dirk. Adding the gung ho “slapping” remarks comes from the realm of wishful thinking. Running Shaq down then feebly attempting to slap him while lying on him is not macho, it’s a tussle, settle down, fattie.

  • http://Www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    Ok Allenp. Sound advice, thank you.

  • HangTime Hec

    You have a point. Your right. I just got a little annoyed about the jokes. And your right about the ungaurdable thing. But dont you think you have to have the confidence to be ungaurdable? What I toke away from the qoute is that one has to pride himself to always think he is the best. If not then doubt comes in? Dont you think. I am not really good at this comment stuff. I love debating, but when it comes to writing down what i feel, its pretty hard.

  • http://Www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    Actually HangTime, you are good at presenting your point online, in my opinion. And you hit the nail on the head, pride is an important factor for those guys (any redblooded competitive person really).

  • http://Www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    And sorry for calling chuck ” fattie”. He was one of my favs, but his overbearing personality coupled with some of his remarks tend to anger me.

  • TC

    Gerald Wilkins…..And MJ really was unstoppable, the Pistons and the Knicks were “effective” at slowing down MJ only because they jet li his ass every time he drove to the basket. The Pistons at late 80′s and the early 90′s Knicks make guys like Ron Artest and Bruce Bowen seem like teddy bears.

  • http://thesportsdiaryonline.blogspot.com Roy

    Stay classy sir Charles. :D

  • http://Www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    Jet Li his ass… I like that.

  • HangTime Hec

    Thanks! There are different types of winners. And no set rules to how to win. Sometimes we all forget that. You made me remember that.

  • larrylegend

    co-sign Darksaber
    but i like both, dirk & chuck, so let’s take this quote from the sir as a motivation for dirk. but you can’t compare them, it would be like comparing stock with ai. and charles played in the 90ies, this where the slapping times.
    damn, dark, you meet dirk multiple times, cool.

  • Tommy Patron

    Darksaber-Denver’s vaunted frontcourt?! Wow.

  • http://Www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    I’ll never mistake Bowen Collector for a teddy bear. That dirty piece of….

  • larrylegend

    how about oakley as a attitude coach for dirk…

  • larrylegend

    how about oakley as an attitude coach for dirk…

  • http://Www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    Yes Tommy: a rejuvenated Nene, the 2nd best shotblocker in the league, Melo the offensive force, an underrated Kleiza and springy Kenyon. One of the best frontcourts last season. Anyone who thinks Denver’s rise was only due to Billups? Dream on.

  • http://Www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    Yeah Larry, did a few camps with him in Europe the last few years.

  • hillbilly

    Regardless of whether you love him or hate him, Charles is always good for a random, nutty quote. When the Lakers & Rockets were throwin’ down in the playoffs this year, he referred to Ron Artest as “Dr. Phil’s worst nightmare”.
    Can’t argue with that…

  • http://Www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    Emphasis on nutty.

  • http://www.slamonline.com wayno

    Like him or not, he gets paid to say stuff that either makes people laugh/pisses people off, and to say controversial stuff…apparently it’s working because you’re all talking…

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Charles Barkley is the man. Sorry Darksaber. Nothing against Dirk Nowitzki, but you gotta love it.

  • danny

    I’m pretty sure chuck’s quotes were about lebron. I mean, dirk has hardly a killer attitude, but lebron has none whatsoever. He literally hit his first game winner in 7 years. At about 100 game season each year, that means if you watch lebron play 700 times, chances are, he hasn’t shown up in the 4th.

  • http://www.slamonline.com wayno

    Aw man Danny…you had to go there…

  • http://djsklfl.com Jukai

    Danny: I believe Lebron lead the league in shots that eventually became the game winners in 2008. But yaeh, because he didn’t wait long enough for the clock to go down to zero, he sucks.
    Remember his 2007 48 point performance against Detroit? Sure, he scored 25 straight points, but did he hit the game winner? No! He gave them like three seconds to score, how DARE he!

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    The lesson learned is LeBron sucks.

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    Brongoggles!!!!!! (sorry, couldn’t resist)

  • Garbajosa

    charles has the same amount of rings as Dirk

  • http://yahoo.com Logues

    jukai: i agree with danny, lebron passes up game winners to people like delonte west. and what do you mean shots that eventually came the game winner, cause a shot with 30 seconds left is actually alot different than one with a few seconds left.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    I agree LeBron shouldn’t give the ball up near the ends of games. But dude, he’s won ball games for Cleveland many, many times. He owned the Washington Wizards by himself. He got to the finals by himself after beating the Pistons by himself. Post-Jordan and Post-Dream, besides Allen Iverson, LeBron James is the one player who has taken his team the furthest in the playoffs pretty much by himself (offensively).

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    I just got sucked in, didn’t I? My bad.

  • Esco

    I do remember LeBron hitting a jumper in Turiaf’s face during the regular season. Yes, at the buzzer. So danny, go play outside.

  • la huey

    Chuck is an entertaining guy, a great personality for TV, and I really liked him as a player. However, I don’t know where some of you guys get this idea that he should be handing out swagger tips when he’s got no rings. Seriously, Dirk’s accomplished pretty much the same accolades as Barkley did in his career and did it in his own way.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Dirk is not on Barkley’s level as a dominating player, but he’s easily the best Euro ever.
    Barkely wasn’t as great as he thinks he was. He was great, but he rarely played defense, was often out of shape and could be a team cancer.

  • http://antwonomous.blogspot.com Antwonomous

    Dirk was just playing mind games when he said that. He averaged a 34-12-4 in that series. I’d say K-Mart didn’t have a snowball’s chance in hell of stopping him.

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    Actually Nene defended him well in that series (as well as 34-12-4-2 allow), he did burn Kenyon, Melo and Birdman though. That snowball didn’t stand a chance.

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    Allenp, Dirk Nowitzki IS on a par with Chuck, Stats wise. He is just not a brash, outspoken player. Chuck tried to dominate (emphasis on tried, his height/weight didn’t impress the true Nba hardbodies of his time with similar skills) with his mouth and physical play too.

  • Josh D

    Please tell me he actually did this

  • http://djsklfl.com Jukai

    Logues: the statistic, I believe, was under nine seconds. So when Lebron hits a shot with 3 seconds left on the clock, I consider that just as valuable as hitting a shot with 0 seconds left on the clock.
    Darksaber: Chuck was a better rebounder and passer.

  • http://www.slamonline.com wayno

    He’s #2 on the list behind Kobe of guys who I want to have the ball in the last 10 seconds of a game. The man is clutch.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    Juks, that’s a lost cause. Bron has ranked amongst or at the top of the best crunch time performers for years. There are facts to back this up. Like Allen said, people will believe what they want to believe. Ever since MJ, being clutch means knocking fadeaway J’s at the buzzer. That’s just the way it is.

  • tavoris

    I agree with Jukai…it’s easy to forget how GREAT Barkley was….the man had a freaking THIRTY-THREE rebound game…a THIRTY-THREE REBOUND game…as a 6’4″ (altho listed at 6’6″) PF. that is CRAZY. Also, get into how his playoff stats are noticeably better than his reg season stats (with a large sample size). Altho he didn’t play D (heck, neither did Magic or Bird), he was a great, great player up until injuries forced him to retire.

  • tavoris

    Chuck is about as much an authority as you will get from commentators. The only other player doing studio work that has earned more respect is Magic. Sometimes, he says things that piss people off. That doesn’t make them any less real, tho.

  • tavoris

    Chuck is about as much an authority as you will get from commentators. The only other player doing studio work that has earned more respect is Magic. Sometimes, he says things that piss people off. That doesn’t make them any less real, tho.

  • wilford brimley

    Z, you’re reaching when you say that clutch is just buzzer-beaters. Just because people focus on the buzzer-beater, does not mean that it was the buzzer-beater alone that caused the victory.

    The concept that is actually significant is making plays towards the end of the game that cause a great impact towards victory. That means big plays from roughly the last 2 minutes of close games. Use that as your definition for clutch. If you choose to define clutch as the buzzer-beaters, you’re looking at a very insignificant quantity in terms of winning games since there are so few, and they are so dependent upon the previous lead-up of plays.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Blinguo

    Something like this happened in that show Hanging with Mr Cooper and his overnight dream of being in the league. Chuck dunked on him and said “Welcome to the league.” Possibly the only memorable episode of that show.

  • http://www.slamonline.com wayno

    Hanging with Mr. Cooper! I haven’t seen that in forever…I loved that show man…that was a great episode btw.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Blinguo

    And (although already corrected up there) Gerald Wallace and MJ hang out now, but MJ might be holding back Gerald’s team!

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    wilford brimley
    i’m not sure you got what i was trying to say.

  • vic21

    Well Europeans are a little bit more… classy. They can play awesome, yet they can be sincere and recognize their opponent’s talent. They don’t have Barkley’s pseudo macho complex.

  • luv2ball

    Someone needs to watch some video; MJ was unguardable. If MJ had these no hand check rules in his prime, he’d average 45. Joe D, and Ron Harper, G. Wilkins, made MJ work harder for his points.

  • http://fdjsklf.com Jukai

    luv2ball: Jordan’s averages would probably increase, but new zone defense rules and greater charges/floppy in the league may negate Jordan’s abilities as much as you’re going on about. No one can properly predict how much a player could score.
    Jordan got some pretty phantom calls in his day

  • luv2ball

    Jukai: I agree you can’t predict how much a player would score.

    But back when he was playing you could hand check like crazy. He would have been to the line more then Dwade. Also, What superstar doesn’t get phantom calls? If you look at LBJ he goes to the line, and I bet DIrk is still mad at the refs from the MAvs/Heat Finals. LBJ,Dwade average 30 now, none of them had near the repertoire of MJ; additionally neither of them have as good a supporting cast.

    MJ had one of the greatest mid-range jumpers ever, plus with the quality of shooters MJ had around him, teams would be hesitant to double him. I think the new rules would have had MJ taking more threes. I don’t have a Mancrush on MJ either, I may have one on scottie tho

  • http://Www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    Pip was/is the shiznit!!! No discussion allowed.

  • http://Www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    Just saw a camp video of MJ shooting J’s with Melo and some kids (no, no Kobe dissing this time). MJ’s jumper is still WETTTT! Dude could still score in today’s league..

  • larrylegend

    co-sign Dark again.
    pip was unbelieveable, and mj gets EVERY call.
    in 1993-94 he led the bulls in about 8 categories, never done before and after, but got robbed for mvp like kidd.

  • mdshuai33

    Here’s something that no one in the world has ever pointed out about Charles’ statement: anyone remember Magic’s post-game comments in the ’91 finals? All the dude talked about was how bad MJ was killing ‘em. So does that mean that Magic was soft and weak, because he recognized the skills of his opponents in front of the camera?

  • mdshuai33

    And Pip was the man; he deserved that MVP. Probably one of the most under-appreciated players, as far as the fans are concerned, and at the same time most respected by his peers, to ever play in the league.

  • rikson

    Actually, I saw MJ drove to other players houses at night…

  • rikson

    How can you ever raise your game, if you dont recognize the greatness of other players?! Its possible to have huge selfesteem and still be aware of the fact, that there are great or even better players out there…

  • rikson

    Sometimes I think Chuck is like 12 years old…

  • LeoneL

    Sir Charles should start his own blog and make a ton of money on Adsense. LOL

  • http://slamonline.com Spaceship Jay

    I read wilford brimley’s post, and forgot what I wanted to type.

  • tavoris

    Chucks point wasn’t that he didn’t recognize the skill of other players (of course he did-he’d never be working in TV if he had the attitude of Steven A Smith). He was speaking about how a player of Dirk’s caliber (MVP discussion EVERY season) shouldn’t be conceding to ANYONE until he cements his legacy with a ring. Magic in 91 (the same year he announced his retirement) was already a multiple-title winning LEGEND who could speak from a “fatherly” perspective. Until Dirk shakes the somewhat-unjustified “underacheiver” tag, he’s best served not saying anything.

  • dude

    Barkley is a clown, a flat out clown. Charles…there were LOTS of people who knew they could stop you buddy.

    Yea..right charles…we should all be more like you. Idiot.

    [quote]Barkley was frequently fined for on-court fights with NBA players, such as Shaquille O’Neal, Bill Laimbeer, and Charles Oakley, among others.[51] He was also equally confrontational off the court. He was arrested for breaking a man’s nose during a fight after a game with the Milwaukee Bucks[52] and also for throwing a man through a plate-glass window after being struck with a glass of ice.[53][/quote]

  • tavoris

    dude? we already know those things…but it’s not true about stopping him as a player. One does NOT average 25, 11, and 6 on a STACKED Phoenix team as a 6’4″ PF unless u r pretty freaking unstoppable. 25, 11, and 6…6’4″ PF…let that marinate. As much as I love AI, Chuck is easilyt in the pound-for-pound discussion as well.

  • ED

    BS. That man is way too sure of himself, maybe he should ask himself if he actually was a superstar? Maybe not confident enough? Because Chuck if I remember right you didn’t get any ring?! Did you?

    Aight so keep on talking that trash Charles cause that’s what you do best. Dirk kills you al lday, one of the most efficient player in this game, and clutch with that. Ya’ll can keep talking but Dirk is a superstar, just not american enough for you suckers.

    :D

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