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1996 NBA Draft Remix

The greatest draft of all-time you ask? Perhaps.

by Jeff FoxKobe Bryant & David Stern

The initial plan was to make the focus of this article a showdown between Allen Iverson and Steve Nash for the No. 2 slot in the remix. Instead, let’s just cut to the chase — Iverson wins due to the longevity of his greatness. But, that being said, the battle was probably closer than most people would be willing to admit.

The reason we are cutting the Iverson-Nash debate short (other than the fact that AI pretty much beats Nash in most categories when you look at their whole careers) is that focusing just on two players wouldn’t do THE GREATEST DRAFT OF ALL-TIME any justice. But is 1996 really the greatest draft of all-time? Now that is a debate more worthy than Nash-Iverson.

It really comes down to 1984 and 1996 in the G.O.A.T debate. 2003 might make it a three horse race in the future, but it is still too early for LeBron & Co. to really be a true threat. In terms of quantity, 1996 is the undisputed champion of the world. No other draft class has produced more All-Stars or more All-NBA players than 1996. But 1984 has the best shooting guard and best player of all-time in Michael Jordan and top five all-time greats at point guard (John Stockton), power forward (Charles Barkley) and center (Hakeem Olajuwon). All 1996 has is the second-best shooting guard of all-time in Kobe Bryant, probably three other Hall of Famers and a bunch of other players who had real good careers.

So, as incredibly deep as 1996 is, you can’t really argue against MJ, Stockton, Barkley and Olajuwon being the winners. Can you?

1996 NBA Draft

Grade: A+

All-Stars: 11 (Allen Iverson, Shareef Abdur-Rahim, Stephon Marbury, Ray Allen, Antoine Walker, Kobe Bryant, Peja Stojakovic, Steve Nash, Jermaine O’Neal, Zydrunas Ilgauskas, Ben Wallace)

Biggest Bust: Todd Fuller, Golden State, pick No. 11  
Second Round Steal: Jeff McInnis, Denver, pick No. 37 
Winning Team (in the long run): Los AAllen Iversonngeles Lakers (Kobe Bryant)
Career Scoring Leader: Allen Iverson
Career Rebounding Leader: Ben Wallace
Career Assist Leader: Steve Nash

Pick No. 1 | Philadelphia 76ers
Actual Selection: Allen Iverson
Draft 365 Remix: Kobe Bryant (13)

The basketball universe as we know it would have been irrevocably altered if Philly had chosen the hometown boy Kobe instead of AI. Shaq and Kobe wouldn’t have a fistful of rings. Iverson probably wouldn’t be as beloved as he is (after all, he seems to have been made for Philly). It’s hard to really fault the Sixers for their choice though – they passed on one Hall of Famer to choose another. The player they did pass on, though, turned out to be one of the greatest of all-time.

Pick No. 2 | Toronto Raptors
Actual Selection: Marcus Camby
Draft 365 Remix: Allen Iverson (1)

It was already mentioned above why Iverson beat Nash out for the No. 2 slot. As much as critics like to beat on Iverson for his tats, or his shot-happy ways, they can’t knock the man’s heart. The greatest, toughest little man to ever player in the NBA?

Pick No. 3 | Vancouver Grizzlies
Actual Selection: Shareef Abdur-Rahim
Draft 365 Remix: Steve Nash (15)

The same thing that was said about Kobe and Philly can be said about Steve Nash and Vancouver — what if the Grizzlies selected the “hometown” hero instead Steve Nash & David Sternof Shareef Abdur-Rahim. Would Nash’s presence have been enough to keep the franchise north of the border? Impossible to say, just as it was almost impossible to predict back in 1996 that Nash would be the only two-time MVP from his draft class.

Pick No. 4 | Milwaukee Bucks
Actual Selection: Stephon Marbury
Draft 365 Remix: Ray Allen (5)

The NBA’s reigning three-point king, Ray Allen also possesses one of the sweetest strokes you are ever going to see on the court. Nine-time All-Star, two-time All-NBA, NBA champion — is there anything Jesus (Shuttlesworth) can’t do?

Pick No. 5 | Minnesota Timberwolves
Actual Selection: Ray Allen
Draft 365 Remix: Ben Wallace (Not drafted)

The first undrafted player to make it into one of our remixes (apologies to Brad Miller who was accidentally overlooking in 1998), Ben Wallace has had the most unusual career –  a late bloomer who burned out early. But when he was at the peak of his powers, there wasn’t a more intimidating defensive player around. No other undrafted player can boast four All-Star selections, five All-NBA appearances and four Defensive Player of the Year awards.

Pick No. 6 | Boston Celtics
Actual Selection: Antoine Walker
Draft 365 Remix: Jermaine O’Neal (17)

Jermaine O’Neal looked like another high school bust — during his first four seasons in Portland he barely sniffed the court. But after being emancipated to Indiana, he became a six-time All-Star and three-time member of the All-NBA team. But, like Wallace, he blossomed late (not in regards to his age though) and burned out early.

Pick No. 7 | Los Angeles Clippers
Actual Selection: Lorenzen Wright
Draft 365 Remix: Stephon Marbury (4)

Before he became an internet sensation (for all the wrong reasons) and before all that messy business in New York with Zeke, Stephon Marbury has going to revolutionize the point guard position in the NBA. While he never did quite achieve that, he had a great career — a two-time All-Star and two-time All-NBA recipient.

Pick No. 8 | New Jersey Nets
Actual Selection: Kerry Kittles
Draft 365 Remix: Peja Stojakovic (14)

NBA fans upset that Ricky Rubio decided against coming across the pond to play this year need to remember about Peja Stojakovic. Peja played a couple of more years in Greece after being picked by Sacramento, and he entered the NBA a better player because of it.

Pick No. 9 | Dallas Mavericks
Actual Selection: Samaki Walker
Draft 365 Remix: Antoine Walker (6)

Before he was known for his gambling problems and for his battles with the bulge (OK, maybe not before that), Antoine Walker was a deadly gunner. As an early running mate of Paul Pierce’s, Walker made three All-Star teams even though the bad shot identifier in his brain was malfunctioning.

Pick No. 10 | Indiana Pacers
Actual Selection: Erick Dampier
Draft 365 Remix: Marcus Camby (2)

It’s a crime that Marcus Camby has never made an All-Star team (well, maybe its not a felony, but at least it’s a misdemeanor). Amazingly, the skinny, brittle Camby has gotten better the older he has gotten — he’s made four All-Defensive Team appearances and won the Defensive Player of the Year award since turning 30.

Barely missed the Top 10 Remix: Shareef Abdur-Rahim, Zydrunas Ilgauskas, Derek Fisher, Kerry Kittles.

Next on the Remix: The Kid opens up the high school floodgates.

1996 NBA Draft Green Room

Read more of Jeff Fox at The Hoops Manifesto.

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  • http://slamonline.com/ Spaceship Jay

    I’m EXTREMELY late into the disscussion above, but uhhhh…. raise your hand if you’d take Iverson over Wade, at any point in either one of their careers.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    You mean at the same point in their respective careers? Like both in their primes or both as rookies?
    Or do you mean at any point would I have rather had Iverson than Wade?
    Finally, how does that question determine who has had the better career so far? I would never take Tim Duncan over Hakeem, but Tim Duncan has still had the better career when you consider objective measures.

  • tavoris

    Allenp, Kemp was a beast, as was Payton, but the rest of the team…not so much. Shrempf was on his last legs-and a shadow of the player he was on the Mavs and the Pacers. Same for Hersey Hawkins. Paul has more talent on the Hornets. They’ve been hurt alot, but that doesn’t serve as a knock to how dominant Payton was all-court for over a decade.

  • tavoris

    Allenp, that’s a big IF, considering Wade has only been injury free one year.

  • http://slamonline.com/ Spaceship Jay

    Allenp, at any point in their respective careers, that includes both of their championship years. You have Wade being injury prone, and Iverson having to be the central focus of a team nothing but role players around him that have no intention of shooting the ball.
    tavoris, Wade has been injury free only one year?

  • tavoris

    Spaceship Jay, that’s what I said…the most games he’s played in any one season in his career is 79-and that was last year. He’s averaging 65 games a season for his career.

  • http://slamonline.com/ Spaceship Jay

    Hmmmmm…. I’ll take Wade anytime, still.

  • tavoris

    right NOW, yes. But that’s somewhat skewed since Wade is JUST entering his prime.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Tavoris
    David West can’t hold Kemp’s jock strap. And, other than David West, who have the Hornets had besides Paul? A washed up Peja whose jumper and legs are gone. Chandler, Peterson, other random dudes.
    Now they’ve got Okafor, but prior to that trade, Paul’s talent was horrible.
    Payton had Kemp, a good shooter in Hawkins, a washed up pro in Nate, a still decent Detlef and other assorted bums. I mean, they were consistently winning 60 games.
    Spaceship
    I don’t think Wade has been better than Iverson every year since Wade stepped into the league. I think Wade’s career has been nice though, and if he can avoid long layoffs, he can pass Iverson. That said, right now, Iverson has had the better career even with Wade’s one ring and gold medal. Although, it’s closer than I first thought.

  • tavoris

    Allenp, I don’t disagree…however, you can’t forget that Seattle had a much tougher road to the finals. They were winning 60 games because Payton completely dismantled EVERY team’s offense before they crossed half court.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I’m not saying Paul has it tougher overall, I’m just saying that Payton had more talent. I think you said that Payton took a less talented team to the Finals, which I disagree with. However, I think it’s way too early to put Paul over Payton because if Paul’s career ended today, it wouldn’t be better than Payton’s. However, Paul has amazing potential.

  • JMac

    I should have known Oden was in the 1996 draft (above Stern)

  • Caleb

    “if Paul’s career ended today, it wouldn’t be better than Payton’s.”

    From a team success standpoint? No. From any other standpoint? Yes.

  • Caleb

    “right now, Iverson has had the better career even with Wade’s one ring and gold medal.”

    Wrong again! That’s just crazy talk.

  • tavoris

    Allenp, I think we’re on the same page…but if Jukai’s list was based on potential, then Paul would probably be #2, Deron Williams would be #3, and Cousy wouldn’t even appear. I’m jus sayn…

    Also, I was never really a fan of Kemp. The way his game deteriorated once his athleticism waned was VERY telling to me.

  • EC

    Jukai Horry was just a roleplayer on those championship teams he wasnt winning the final mvp, T Paker and D Johnson ACtually WON the finals MVPs… huge difference, and AI over Drexler anyday and its not even close deal wit it homie AI didnt want to defer to inferior talent not the same with Drexler and Hakeem. Hakeem was twice the player than drexler for drexler to think he would be the man is just insane i cant believe you compared those 2 situations you’re gonna have to put up an actual argument LOL WOW

  • http://fjdklf.com Jukai

    Tavoris: It’s not potential, but I should have explained how I place the players: I’m not taking into account ‘potential’ but I’m taking into account ‘if they stay at their current skill level for the rest of their career minus old-age statistical falls, how would I rank them.’ I know it’s not always the right way to look at things, since yes, Paul’s career could end tomorrow and Payton would have it overall better… but I’m predicting Paul is gonna be at least as good as he is for some time, and that for me would put him over Payton. If we’re just talking about careers up to now and not looking at the future, I’m not sure Chris Paul or Deron Williams would make it over 15, since they haven’t really done much.
    Also, you’re WAY too high on Deron. Number three all time on potential? Wahhhh?

  • http://fjdklf.com Jukai

    Allenp: I’ve seen the dude do some pretty spectacular dunks… but being six feet with a 41 inch vertical wont equate to being able to outjump someone taller than you (unless yer Marcus Camby). My err in logic was that I thought Dwayne Wade had a 43 inch vertical. Apparently his vertical is 36 inches… which seems unreal to me, considering the dunks this dude throws down. Odd.
    I always have trouble placing Shawn Kemp on a top-20 list, because yes, he was dominate but yes, he did fade quickly, but my small forward top-20 list, just a quick glance, is freaking terrible (created it what, almost a year ago?) and it needs some updates pronto.

  • http://fjdklf.com Jukai

    EC:
    Rip Hamilton: 18.3/3.1/4.4/.6 on .447 shooting (0.368 three)
    Allen Iverson: 17.4/3.1/4.9/1.6 on .416 shooting (0.286 three)
    Wait, but you said “inferior talent?” How are Rip’s stats equal, if not better, than Allen Iverson?
    Perhaps it’s not about TALENT, but the SYSTEM and how talent works. Houston was WAY different than Portland, Portland was a slasher team which was lead by the Glide, and Houston was a grind it out three pointer team. Glide came in and adapted to the system. Iverson came and played worse than Rip, the “inferior talent”. THIS SAYS SOMETHING.
    Yes, there’s no way Clyde could get that 2000 Phili team to the Finals. So everyone has a role to play. But I say that Clyde’s adaption to different roles (along with better defense and rebounding, smarter scoring) puts him ahead of AI. I’m cool if you think AI is better, at this point, I think Gervin, Iverson, Wade, and Glide are rather interchangeable. It’s what you value and who you like.
    if you don’t think there is an argument though, I’d brush up on basketball before 19998.

  • http://fjdklf.com Jukai

    that’s right, the year 19,998. That’s how little you know (bad typo).
    I love lists and I love the debate that comes with making lists. I dunno why SLAM’s lists aren’t this fun.

  • EC

    yeah cuz i dont know bball, they didnt use iverson like they should have so you think rip is better, what kind argument is that we both know thats not the case and regardless of system Glide never would be the main focal point over hakeem and we both know that as well

  • http://fjdklf.com Jukai

    No, EC, it’s not like they didn’t use him like “they should have,” it’s that they didn’t use him “the way Iverson wanted.” Had Iverson averaged 17-4 taking Detroit to the second/third round, he’s a better player. He couldn’t co-exist (not really his fault), but then decided he wasn’t going to try any other role and sort of gave up. That hurt him enough to be bumped down in my mind to the Glide, who took his lesser role in stride to get that ring.
    You don’t seem to understand, there’s not much I can do. I bet you’re going to start reminding me how short Iverson is and how hard it is to get that shot off soon, aren’t you?

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    For the record, peja looks like he is trying to make love to the camera for the photoshoot.

  • jdn41

    jukai-it’s understandable dudes a winner everywhere he goes but all that other stuff was more for patriotism and as sad as it is it doesnt really matter in the nba career(except for the dream team for the whole globalization of basketball and what not) the thing is can you say he’s top 10 sg every single season he was in the nba let alone top 16 of all time thats ludacriss. And altering the stats to make one player look good shouldn’t be allowed he played the way he played for better or worst saying if he did this his whole career is entirely speculation thats like saying if shaq shot 90% ft he be the greatest player of all time.

  • http://fjdklf.com Jukai

    jdn41: No, it’s not. It’s not even remotely the same. Not even close. Shaq has never shown he can shoot free throws at a 90% clip. Ever.
    Manu has played HEAVY minutes in the Olympics, and the Euroleagues, where he was both named MVP. Manu CHOOSE to play lesser minutes SO HE CAN WIN.
    Man, look up PER. For more than half of his NBA career, Manu has been in the top ten in PER. It’s him and Kobe, the top guards. Yeah, it’s unbelievable, but Manu is so damn efficient for the minutes he gets, and if he wanted to, he could easily average 20-6-5-2 on a team that’s willing to give him 37 minutes a game. I’m not going to discount that. He sacrificed that to win, bro.
    And why should I discount that he’s won in Europe and the Olympics? He was beating NBA caliber talent when he was doing that.

  • J.C.

    Holy shit, Peja! How did anyone not tell him he looked like a serial killer?

  • Solon

    @Jukai
    You really gotta get this PER and “if he played more minutes” or “if he did this…” shit outta here. Its not about “ifs” or lame ass Euroball. It is about the best league in the World (NBA) and what you did there. NBA “caliber talent” talent is not the NBA. That’s like saying, oh well Carmelo beat “NBA caliber talent” at Syracuse-so he’s got a Title. Naw dude, NBA is all that matters. Europe?!?!? Pssshhhh. Bonzi Wells is over there averaging like 35 a game. He wouldn’t make a single team in the NBA. Never bring that crap up again.

    Also, Chris Paul is sick, and should one day be #7, but you can’t say right now that he is better then Nash. No way. He has done more individually, more as a team, or changed the way basketball is played more then Nash. Nash and the SSOL Suns brought a whole new dimension to the league that had been missing for years and years. he has done more for basketball and been more of a baller (2 time MVP is still 2X!!!) then CP3 any day. Call me in ten years, maybe we can change that.

  • tavoris

    Jukai, Allenp and I were discussing Paul’s potential. I was aware that your list wasn’t about that per se. And lots of people think Deron Williams will have a longer, more successful career than Chris Paul, primarily because 1)he has a better jumper, 2)he doesn’t rely on his speed, athleticism, or handle nearly as much, and 3)because he is a bigger, stonger player-and expected to be less injury prone. There are lots of whispers that he may finish his career the best PG in Utah. And re: Paul-if he plays a decade, i still wouldn’t say hsi career would be better than Payton. Payton was a DOMINANT player from the point guard position.

  • tavoris

    Jukai, Manu had pretty close to those numbers on just over 31 mpg. If he’s healthy, he’s another guy that definitely deserves a higher ranking.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Dave

    @Jukai:
    “Gervin… Average over 50% from the field. Dude dropped 33 and 32 a game, and he did it well over 50%. ”
    That’s a really good point.
    “He also outrebounded Clyde”
    No he didn’t. Unless by Clyde you mean Frazier. Or by outrebounded you mean ‘collected cannonballs a couple of years in the ABA’.

  • jbizz

    i think that iverson gets alot of flack. he had to take shots because of the lack of talent around him for most of his career. how do you think this debate would be if iverson had played with shaq for phil and kobe was left to carry the sixers?

  • http://fjdklf.com Jukai

    Solon: Okay, but can we still count the Olympics where Manu beat the hell out of Iverson, Duncan, and Marbury? Or is that fake ass basketball, even though NBA players are playing?
    Plus, did you make up that information on Bonzai Wells? He never played in Europe. He played in China, where he was cut from the team because he wasn’t showing up. Man, don’t make up this crap buddy.
    Tavoris: Who are the people whispering? Stockton had a 19 year career… I mean… Deron would have to go crazy to surpass him… I don’t know man. Your points about Deron having a better career is surely possible (good points about athleticism and staying close to the ground) but comparing Deron to Stockton seems insane right now. I don’t know if he has any upside.
    Dave: My bad, yer right. Next time I’ll look this sh*t up.
    jbizz: Iverson would never play for the triangle and Kobe would demand a trade. Both their careers would be tarnished.

  • landyn

    Jukai- you really know what you’re talking about….and steve nash looks straight boss with that tie…and to onlyclipfanonslam- I think kittles does look like a skinnier version of D rose

  • tw

    ive seen alot of nba drafts worst dressed lists over the years but why havent i seem dampier on one of em?

  • ekidro

    on steve nash case. i always believe that theres a conspiracy that nash won back to back mvp? and jason kid who brought the Nets to back to back finals appearances and almost averaging tripple double during that time and didn’t won any MVP awards. my goodness gracious….why? why? why?…

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  • clasher101

    you could make a case for ray at number 3 instead of nash, sure he has two mvps (questionable for a guy averging 15 pts and less than 10 ast) but ray has played more productively and consistently off the bat. has more success in the playoffs as well.

  • Noelle

    The guy w/ the white socks is Lorenzen Wright,… May God Rest His Soul! RIP!

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