Thursday, September 10th, 2009 at 10:30 am  |  66 responses

Bruce Bowen Denies Playing Dirty

We don’t believe you, Bruce. You need more people: “There’s only one incident where I can say was calculated and that was the time I kicked Ray Allen. I kicked Ray after I drew the charge but I didn’t like what took place with the charge and I did something which was not right, I kicked him while he was right there in front of me and I was reprimanded for that. But all the other things that took place, it was more of a buildup of who I had become as far as a tough nosed defender, where people started to say I was crossing the line. And, it was unfortunate because a lot of the guys that were saying these things were all-stars, and part of it was they didn’t like me guarding them.’”

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  • carter Posted: Sep.10 at 10:39 am
    Yeah!

  • Sparker Posted: Sep.10 at 10:39 am
    and part of it was that they thought you were a dick, bruce

  • Darksaber Posted: Sep.10 at 10:40 am
    Sphincter says what?? Someone please cue the laugh track, cause Bowen Collector must be joking, right now.

  • niQ Posted: Sep.10 at 10:45 am
    This is like a fat kid saying he didn’t eat the cake when there are smudges all over his face.

  • Darksaber Posted: Sep.10 at 10:53 am
    niQ: perfect comparison. Perfetto!

  • CDef28 Posted: Sep.10 at 10:54 am
    Man this guy is stupid. I loved it when he always did the ankle trick on people after they shot.

  • bakers' dozen Posted: Sep.10 at 11:07 am
    He was as dirty as Pig Pen in Peanuts.

  • bakers' dozen Posted: Sep.10 at 11:07 am
    He was as dirty as Pig Pen in Peanuts.

  • Spaceship Jay Posted: Sep.10 at 11:25 am
    I’ll say… half and half. I’ve seen Bowen do some extra-grimey things. However, I’ve seen him do some flat out “I’ma lock you up” things as well, and that should account for something being that if his career would have been anywhere between the years ’80 yo around ’95, he would have been fine. Rodman percieved even. Perhaps.

  • Spaceship Jay Posted: Sep.10 at 11:25 am
    to around*

  • Brad Long Posted: Sep.10 at 11:34 am
    I’ve never seen video of Rodman intentionally trying to stomp someones achilles on a fast break.

  • Spaceship Jay Posted: Sep.10 at 11:39 am
    No, but you have seen him kick a camera man that had nothing to do with the play before get kicked in the balls.

  • Spaceship Jay Posted: Sep.10 at 11:39 am
    It’s all relative.

  • DONONE Posted: Sep.10 at 11:53 am
    bowen isn’t a dirty player??? lmfao and Sasha isn’t a h0m0!!

  • Strotter Posted: Sep.10 at 12:05 pm
    Sasha is a homosexual?

  • Fat Lever Posted: Sep.10 at 12:10 pm
    Yea, karate kicking Wally Szzurp in the face when trying to close out on a 3 isn’t dirty at all. NBA players get Daniel-son’d in the face all the time!

  • ShoeNut Posted: Sep.10 at 12:22 pm
    Mr. PotatoHead aka Bruce Bowen is an aggressive defender, so I can see why people think he is dirty, but I don’t think he is out there to hurt someone or end their career. But I still hate the spurs. Lakers back to back in 2010.

  • Z Posted: Sep.10 at 12:39 pm
    Bowen was derrty. The kicks and the punches aren’t the whole story. What was really a b-tch move was stepping in on the shooters after the release. They HAD to pay attention to his feet in order to not roll their ankles, therefore messing up their motions. B-tch move.

  • Cmonpeoples Posted: Sep.10 at 12:46 pm
    I’ll even go so far as to say that that’s like Hitler saying he didn’t hate Jews

  • Brad Long Posted: Sep.10 at 1:12 pm
    LMAO@fat lever

  • Allenp Posted: Sep.10 at 1:26 pm
    Z is right.
    Mind games with people’s careers is dirty. It’s a part of the game (thing Detroit Bad Boys) but it’s still dirty.

  • Bryan Posted: Sep.10 at 2:08 pm
    F*ck this dude.

  • Z Posted: Sep.10 at 2:15 pm
    Allen, but if you want to take somebody out say ”I’m taking you out”. That’s the big difference between Bowen and real tough dudes. I wanted to throw things at the TV every time he would raise his hands after the whistle looking like he didn’t know what the hell was going on.

  • Z Posted: Sep.10 at 2:15 pm
    Basically, co-sign Bryan.

  • Duncan21 Posted: Sep.10 at 2:24 pm
    Ha Bowen was the Ultimate gangster. Like Gary payton, stuck like white on rice man. Talk your sh!t, but he would still shut your OFF-ense down. Hi Haters!

  • a_whiteman Posted: Sep.10 at 2:57 pm
    this guy did more dirty work then norm mcdonald and artie lang

  • Jukai Posted: Sep.10 at 3:19 pm
    F Bowen being a lock down defender garbage. No respect for this cheap dude.

  • Josh D Posted: Sep.10 at 3:26 pm
    How long does it take you to pick up on this i saw this interview on Spurs.com about a week ago

  • Moose Posted: Sep.10 at 3:44 pm
    Bruce Bowen thinks he wasn’t a dirty player. You keep telling yourself that, Bruce.

  • Klav Posted: Sep.10 at 3:54 pm
    @Moose Bruce B wasn’t dirty, he was malicious. Clearly there is a significant difference. LOL

  • heartlandG Posted: Sep.10 at 4:16 pm
    Regardless if he was dirty or not-Who wouldnt want a hardnose D up player like him on they squad-You get 6 fouls USE EM!

  • Zee! Posted: Sep.10 at 4:19 pm
    The funny thing is, Timmy and co, approved of it.

  • Posterboy15 Posted: Sep.10 at 4:46 pm
    I remember a Nets game a while back when Vince Carter just got traded there in 04′, and Vince torched Bowen and the Spurs 46 points thru 3 qtrs with about 6 minutes to go in the 3rd..Bowen deliberatley went underneath carter on a 3point attempt and carter twisted his ankle as he was coming down..carter got ejected for charging at him..I despised bowen ever since, funny how this post is next to vinces.could have been a magical night against da best defense in th L….

  • Ryan Biddulph Posted: Sep.10 at 4:55 pm
    An aggressive player but not an out and out dirty player. If a guy repeatedly does malicious things he could be considered dirty. It’s the full body of work, and I haven’t seen Bowen lose it on more than an occasion or two. He’s likes to do things to get in guys heads, but that’s nothing. Part of the game, and it’s opponent’s fault anyway if they let him do that to them. Other than that it’s a physical game. Sometimes emotions get the best of guys and they snap, just like everybody has at one time or another. RB

  • Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Sep.10 at 5:31 pm
    He’s not supposed to admit it, that’s the point… I like how people complain and condemn Bruce Bowen for being a cheap and dirty defender, yet DENNIS FREAKING RODMAN is praised for being a “toughnosed, scrappy defensive genius” and placed in NBA Greatest 50 lists (well, just SLAM’s).

  • Boing Dynasty aka Free Lester Hudson Posted: Sep.10 at 6:06 pm
    Dennis “FREAKING” Rodman, made movies with Jean Claud Van Damme, Bruce Bowen is a floppy vagina. You can get away with more then people like you. For reference, look at the world.

  • ulysses Posted: Sep.10 at 6:51 pm
    well i can see that he did made poeple cry ……………..best defender thats my opinion///////bruce is one of a kind if the celtics think harder they ask for him again in the playoffs……….thats a garanteed championship

  • ulysses Posted: Sep.10 at 7:00 pm
    bruce

  • luv2ball Posted: Sep.10 at 7:10 pm
    Didn’t he knee Steve Nash in the ahem “groin” area during a playoff game? In other news Michael Jordan said that he indeed is best friends with Isaiah Thomas.

  • vic21 Posted: Sep.10 at 8:33 pm
    And Nate Robinson denies being short

  • Dacre Posted: Sep.10 at 9:09 pm
    Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Sep.10 at 5:31 pm
    He’s not supposed to admit it, that’s the point… I like how people complain and condemn Bruce Bowen for being a cheap and dirty defender, yet DENNIS FREAKING RODMAN is praised for being a “toughnosed, scrappy defensive genius” and placed in NBA Greatest 50 lists (well, just SLAM’s).
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    Dennis Rodman is also the greatest rebounder to ever exist, that helped him make a few all-time lists too.

  • Dacre Posted: Sep.10 at 9:10 pm
    a_whiteman Posted: Sep.10 at 2:57 pm
    this guy did more dirty work then norm mcdonald and artie lang
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    He did more dirty work than OJ’s lawyer and the Bush administration.

  • Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Sep.10 at 9:33 pm
    Dennis Rodman is not the greatest rebounder ever. Pound for pound maybe, because he was only like 6-7, but in terms of pure rebounding he is NOT the best.

  • Rnz Posted: Sep.10 at 9:33 pm
    Umm..Bruce, Wally got something to say

  • Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Sep.10 at 9:35 pm
    @ Brad Long: Nope, but I have seen Rodman intentionally stomp out a cameraman for being in his path as he tripped out of bounds.

  • Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Sep.10 at 9:39 pm
    I’m not a huge Bowen fan, and I like Dennis Rodman as a player (although I do not see him as top 50 all time), but if you’re going to h@te Bruce Bowen with a passion for being a dirty player (which he was), then coming back and revering Dennis Rodman (especially as a top 50 player) is insanely hypocritical.

  • Dacre Posted: Sep.10 at 11:28 pm
    “pound for pound”…? There’s that allegorical phrase popping up again.
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    Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Sep.10 at 9:39 pm
    I’m not a huge Bowen fan, and I like Dennis Rodman as a player (although I do not see him as top 50 all time), but if you’re going to h@te Bruce Bowen with a passion for being a dirty player (which he was), then coming back and revering Dennis Rodman (especially as a top 50 player) is insanely hypocritical.
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    I don’t hate Bruce Bowen for being a dirty player, I don’t even hate him; I even employ some of his tactics defensively because mind games are the source of about 33.33% of success in game situations – I dislike him as a Suns fan. Simple as this.
    Whats hypocritical is saying that: “pound for pound” Dennis Rodman may be the best rebounder, but then saying he’s not the best rebounder….?

  • Jukai Posted: Sep.11 at 12:00 am
    There’s a HUGE F*CKING DIFFERENCE between Dennis Rodman and Bruce Bowen. When Rodman knocked out a ref, he didn’t then stare at everyone with that “what did I do” look. Rodman was straight forward crazy. Bowen was dirty and malicious. I have SOME respect for Rodman. I have no respect for Bowen.
    Rodman is not the best rebounder ever. Ask Bill Russell who the best is.

  • Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Sep.11 at 12:06 am
    No, in terms of output he is not the best rebounder of all time. I’m saying for his size (ie pound for pound), he is the best rebounder of all time.
    However, when you’re talking about actual rebounding output, then guys like Bill Russell and Wilt Chamberlain are two of the best rebounders ever, and are both better than Dennis Rodman. Meaning, they put up better numbers on average, as well as in extreme bursts (ie career highs) in rebounding.
    Now had Dennis been a 7 foot giant, he very well might have been the undisputed best at rebounding; but he wasn’t.
    Its like how Mark Jackson said Allen Iverson is pound for pound the greatest player ever, because of his physical size, or ‘pounds’. Obviously Jordan is the best, but for his size AI is the best for what he’s done.
    Don’t sweat, I wasn’t calling you a hypocrite. That wasn’t directed to you. Didn’t mean to offend.

  • Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Sep.11 at 12:07 am
    ^^^ That was @ Dacre.

  • Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Sep.11 at 12:17 am
    Now @ Jukai: The difference being what, that Rodman admitted to playing dirty? That’s all and well, but dirty play is still dirty play. I could care less if Rodman jacked some guy up on the court and then admitted it to the media, instead of doing what Bruce Bowen has done in this case. Although, what Bowen has done is very irritating and I can see why people are p!ssed at him. But don’t blame him for being dirty while another guy is revered for it by most of the same people.
    Also, expecting a person to publicly admit their fault (when not in a legal context) doesn’t make sense. OF COURSE a player who has just retired isn’t going to cater to the people who already h@te him by saying “hey, you know what? I really did injure Steve Francis on purpose.” That doesn’t make any sense.
    Is purposely injuring another player a snake move? Yes it is. But what bugs me is the unfairness used to judge different players who all commit the same BS.
    I wonder: Why is that? Because Rodman played with MJ? Because he was good at rebounding? Because he didn’t play for the “uncool” San Antonio Spurs (during their repeat)? Because instead of being a strict, disciplined personality off the court, he went for eccentricity to the extreme? Dirty play is dirty play! Screw the media formalities, if you’re going to condemn one, condemn the other too.

  • Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Sep.11 at 12:20 am
    *’during their repeat’ should have been ‘during their championship seasons’*.

  • Dacre Posted: Sep.11 at 12:48 am
    @Teddy.. yeah I’m okay with your comments, its all good. It’s just that Rodman led the league for 7 CONSECUTIVE YEARS in the rebounding numbers. Thats an NBA record right there and a decent stamp in favour of ‘best ever’ status.
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    @Jukai.. I just got off the phone with Bill, he was going on with a whole lotta man-love for Nate Thurmand, go figure.

  • jdn41 Posted: Sep.11 at 3:02 am
    you guys all make no sense pound for pound best rebounder rodman weighted 228 lbs(http://www.nba.com/history/players/rodman_stats.html) during his nba career and bill russel was 220lbs(http://www.nba.com/history/players/russell_bio.html)so rodman weighted more than russell and is the best pound for pound rebounder but is worst than russell at rebounding do you guys see where your logic doesn’t make sense

  • Jukai Posted: Sep.11 at 3:48 am
    You don’t think there’s a big difference between stomping on a camera man and saying ‘Yeah I did it, I’m a jerk’ and throwing your leg under another player to purposefully injure him and give the “I didn’t do it!” look?
    Bowen is trying to get away with it and avoid punishment! Rodman never did that!
    I can’t believe you dont see the difference.

  • ab_40 Posted: Sep.11 at 5:27 am
    for the amount of hate he get’s you must think it’s kobe or something.

  • B-Moore Posted: Sep.11 at 5:45 am
    Bowen is a F*ckin W@nker. Dennis Rodman was just insane. I agree with Jukai. At least Rodman didn’t give the *i didn’t do it look*

  • Yesse Posted: Sep.11 at 6:11 am
    Whats up with all the hating on Bruce?He was a great defender.Thats how everybody is suppose to play D.

  • JoeMaMa Posted: Sep.11 at 7:27 am
    Bruce did admit, apparently, to being a multiple NBA Champion.
    Spurs fans, unite!!

  • youngmuggsy Posted: Sep.11 at 7:45 am
    Dirty plays happen all the time and all players do it. An awful lot of players have hit and shoved Bowen out of frustration because of his D and gone pretty much unnoticed.

  • youngmuggsy Posted: Sep.11 at 7:48 am
    I mean Mutombo elbowed the shit out of just about every player in the league and he’s the most beloved player in NBA history.

  • Allenp Posted: Sep.11 at 11:01 am
    Teddy
    You do have adjust for the fact that during Wilt and Bill’s era most players shot below 43 percent from the field so there were a lot more rebounds to go around.
    Hell, Bob Cousy never cracked 40 percent from the field in his entire career.

  • ClydeSays Posted: Sep.11 at 6:29 pm
    I think every NBA vet defender tries isht almost every game, like faking contact on a charge or a foul. That’s part of the game.
    I do appreciate great D and Bowen was definitely capable of that. But Bowen mixed his talent in with dirty plays like sliding his feet under a jumpshooter, scratching & clawing. You’ve got your rings Bruce. And your rep.

  • DMC14 Posted: Sep.13 at 10:40 am
    I’ll tell you what if i’m down the park and someone steps under my feet on purpose or kicks their feet out into my knees on my purpose, i’m gonna hurt them badly.

  • Shem Posted: Sep.13 at 6:56 pm
    This is stupid, notice how ALL good defenders are critisized of being dirty no bruce bowen, ron artest, shane battier, rajon rondo, KG are not dirty. They play good D! WHEN kobe hit marco jaric in the face in ot that was dirty (not a kobe hater, he is the best player playing)

  • Blinguo Posted: Sep.14 at 2:14 am
    During one of those “I didn’t do it!” Master P theater (as in low budget straight to DVD style) acting jobs last season, Bowen both knee’d and stepped on Chris Paul, preventing him from just trying to stand up. Finally he got a suspension during that one. Fooling nobody.

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