Wednesday, September 2nd, 2009 at 11:30 am  |  58 responses

Jonny Flynn Feigns Disappointment in Rubio Resolution

Sorry, Jonny, but I’m having a hard time buying into the idea that you were looking forward to battling Ricky for minutes: “Jonny Flynn is disappointed that he’ll have to wait at least two years to team up with Ricky Rubio, the teenage sensation who told the Minnesota Timberwolves on Monday night he was going to put the NBA on hold and remain Spain. ‘He’s a guy that could make me better, and make our team better,’ Flynn said Tuesday after playing in an open run at his alma mater, Niagara Falls High School. ‘And that’s the most important thing. We’re going to be missing a piece to our puzzle that really could’ve helped us out this year…It’s tough to hear you have to wait two years to play with a great player like that.’”

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  • tavoris

    when “pure point” guards come to mind, I think of players who are play the point excusively. Chauncey spends a great deal of time at the 2, and has done so his entire career. Kidd, Nash, Paul, Deron Williams, Andre Miller, Rondo, etc. are players who do not spend much-if any-time at the 2. I think some people use “combo guard” as a somewhat derogatory term. Chauncey is probably the epitome of a combo guard in today’s league, because he’s become a VERY effective point guard (he’s actually not an elite passer, so pure point probably still doesn’t apply), but also is VERY effective as a shooting guard as well. Other combo guards in recent NBA history would be Steve Francis, Gilbert Arenas, Mike Bibby (his ability at the 2 came once he fixed hi s J his rookie year). The three best examples of combo guards in NBA history are Joe Dumars, Walk Frazier, and Oscar Robertson. Any player that would compare in that vein is a combo guard-period.

  • tavoris

    Allenp, I think some people get unnecessarily riled up about about terminology when they may not be using it correctly. Jukai and I have had similar “clashes” over semantics in the past, and will likely continue to do so in the future (as long as terminology used regarding basketball is unclear. I only implore him to discuss and/ or disagree with respect, since throwing insults or backhanded comments only undermines his maturity (and consequently his credibility).

  • http://SLAMONLINE.COM B-Moore

    Teach me your ways Jukai.

  • http://dsfjkf.com Jukai

    Allenp:From your description, then Jonny Flynn IS a combo guard. If you say shoot first point guard, then Flynn fits that bill.
    I wasn’t really referring to Chauncy Billups in at the beginning of his career because, in all honesty, I never paid attention to the dude until he joined the Pistons. Once he became a Piston, he (everyone pretty much agrees) became a pure point guard. Just because he takes a lot of shots, doesn’t make him a combo guard or even ‘shoot first’ point guard.
    To me, what makes someone a ‘combo guard’ (which I will now be referring to as ‘shoot first point guard’ since the majority of posters tell me that combo guard means a guy equally apt to play both shooting guard and point) is their mentality during games. At the beginning of a game, Chauncy Billups is more apt to pass and get teammates involved. Just because he doesn’t ‘create’ like Nash, Paul, and Williams, doesn’t mean he isn’t setting the pace and distributing the ball equally to teammates. A guy like Arenas, is more likely to get his offensive game going at the beginning of a game and THEN get his teammates involved, because his offensive game is more important.
    In easier words,
    Chauncy will pass to an open man instead of shooting a slightly less open shot. Gilbert Arenas will shoot the less open shot. In comparison, Paul will create an even better shot.

  • http://dsfjkf.com Jukai

    Also, I have no idea if Cousy was more of a combo guard at the beginning of his career because I have never watched full games of him. But I’m glad you were alive to watch him, grandpa (add a smiley face there to denote humor)

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    So where does Jason Kidd fit in? The second PG (behind Mark Jackson) to post up on the regular? I think a ‘lead’ guard can still post up and still be playing PG he is after all still setting up the offense….
    It’s often about communication and organising the ball movement/play out on the court, whilst not necessarily having the ball in your own hands.

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    A share of plays often came from Jeff Hornacek, who played point at the suns early in his career – he switched to the 2 at Utah and never looked back, the offensive structure is what determines whether you split the role of a certain player.

  • tavoris

    well, since this is about Flynn, let’s settle it. He’s NOT a combo guard. his team required him to score for them to compete, but he had to create his scoring opportunities from the point guard position. Rarely, if ever, were his opportunities created for him.

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