Friday, October 23rd, 2009 at 2:33 pm  |  29 responses

The Ambivalence & Realization of Vince Carter

Will VC finally champion the hearts of his fans and followers?

by Sandy DoverVince Carter

The below conversation is a brief dialogue that my best friend Aaron and I engaged in recently, as we are wont to do on occasion and having spent much of boyhood analyzing the details of NBA basketball, it’s not such a random occurrence. To be concise, Vince Carter was a significant person of interest in our growing-up, as he was the salve of seeming healing while Michael Jordan was busy pouring salt in our wounds while retiring, un-retiring, retiring and so on.

Aaron: “First the Fat Boys break up, and Vince Carter wanna layup….” It seems like Vince Carter’s career should be divided up like Lil Wayne’s discography. “Tha Carter,” “Tha Carter II” and “Tha Carter III.”

Me: VC needs a time machine, a la “Back To The Future”–maybe he could change places with the Vince who wore Puma shoes and lifted weights like his life depended on.

(In fact, his game did depend on it…the minute he quit lifting for real, he got that stupid jumper’s knee…he’s the reverse Griffey!)

Aaron: I hate Vince now! Even though he puts up “good” numbers, he is still overrated and in many ways he failed to reach his true potential. I may have to add him to the NC guys that should have either stayed in school or were draft busts. Joseph Forte, Rashad McCants, Sean May, Shammond Williams, JR Reid and Brendan Haywood.

Me: I won’t say Sean May is a bust yet. I have to wait this year and the next to see, because he’s been injured so much. Having said that, VC is just a tragedy. There’s no reason that he should be anything less than a surefire Hall of Famer, but he’s hellbent on coming up short. If he has a triumphant ending to his career with the Magic…who knows. He’s what Dominique would’ve been had ‘Nique stopped trying in the 90s, lol. And McCants? He’s just… I mean, I know he had that microfracture surgery a little while ago, but dang, man, he doesn’t have any more excuses. Shammond Williams, on the contrary, I believe he did what he was going to do. He fell somewhat short of being a star, but in reality, his UNC teams made him seem more talented thVince Carteran he was, and he was 24 in his senior year! He should’ve been ballin’, haha! Brendan Haywood was a goon who should’ve worked on his game in college…now’s he a 30-year-old goon who hasn’t improved.

By the way, North Carolina is going to be a serious problem this year. John Henson is going to be something real special.

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And so the conversation went on like this. And it’s an interesting subject, Vince Carter is. I mean, this is a guy who was thought to be what, in many ways, Kobe and LeBron have become, over a sustained period of time, and the reality is really that his first three years were the ones that really showed signs of great impact from the Vince Carter stamp. It’s a difficult thing to consider, too.

Having watched Vince since he was a freshman at North Carolina and having used the Dean Smith school to build himself as a complete player, I expected greatness—we expected greatness. Yes, the hops and the body were signs that he’d be really good, but it was the skill set that he used in tandem with the athleticism to fabricate the amazing results of having scored two or three points on any given possession.

Those that have been paying even the slightest bit of attention to Vince over the past decade knows the whole story about Vince, and we need not delve into the brilliance and nonsense that became of his excursion in Toronto. There, “Air Canada” was a shooting star for some nebulous reason unknown to most people not playing the game with him. Was he depressed? Bored? Selfish? Uninterested? Preoccupied? Frustrated? Probably a little bit of all of those, at least. We that watched the 20-year old VC couldn’t help but wonder why the 25- and 26-year-old wasn’t himself. What about New Jersey? OK, that was a truer, more mature “Vinsanity,” but even then, the insanity about his game was nearly all lost. I underVince Carterstood him wanting to play a smarter floor game and ya-ya-ya. It’s not like that fadeaway three-pointer wasn’t actually falling, because he was hitting. He was hitting most nights when he wanted to exploit his opponents, but it’s just unsettling that he still wasn’t the revolutionary character I imagined on the hardwood battlefield.

And so now, VC is back and already home like Hov and Cudi, and he’s already 11 seasons deep into his famed professional basketball career. After dunking over and on grown men, headlining the Swoosh for high performance sneakers and raising his 6-6, 225-pound body in the air repeatedly on national television for 15 years, Carter is ready to contribute to a title contender for the Orlando Magic. It’s fitting that he’d come home to finally try and do damage, because it was his outstanding prep career in Daytona Beach, FL that gave observers the insight into the boy wonder’s magic.

How do we judge Vince today? Knowing the past, seeing the present, and pondering the future, what do we make of Vincent Lamar Carter? Is he a failure in some way? Is he a Hall of Famer? Is his early Toronto flameout proportional to his seemingly decreasing weight-training activity (I’m only half-joking)? Is he actually Dwayne Carter’s NBA double?

Ultimately, how Vince Carter is judged is by what he does today. Yesterday’s insight into a somewhat-unfulfilled future is what partly made his ball-playing person the enigma he has been seen as today. For this, seeing VC in black and blue is just one of the things that I’ll look forward to in the ’09-10 NBA season. The Magic marriage could be the sound-off to horns that I’ve been waiting to see for all of my b-ball viewing life.

If he has a triumphant ending to his career with the Magic…who knows.

Sandy Dover is a novelist/writer, artist, fitness enthusiast, as well as an unrepentant Prince fan (for real). You can find Sandy frequently here at SLAMonline, as well as at Associated Content and Twitter.

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  • ab_40

    like drexler in houston maybe?

    I red an article on SI about him a while ago. his on court agresiveness was always tempered by his mom according to them. and I can believe that. I’m a momma’s boy… most ballers are but most moms let you be your own mom vinces didn’t therefore he has to talk like a gentleman while he wants to be bad… man this sounds like a michael jackson track haha

  • http://www.slamonline.com/online/category/blogs/san-dova-speak-easy/ San Dova

    hahaha, yeah, that’s a problem. I quit caring about his relationship with his mom a while ago, but I personally think that Vince just had spells where he was caught up in other stuff, and probably didn’t ever really embrace Toronto the way that the fans embraced him. He’s a Riddler, a true E. Nigma. I don’t understand him.

  • lawlow

    nice article, but the first sentence doesn’t make any sense

  • Jake

    Vince Carter is like that old girlfriend or boyfriend every one seems to have.You hate to see them these days,but you still find yourself turning on old home movies now and again to see them at their best.
    The first time I saw Vince Carter play was while he was still at UNC.I think they were playing Kentucky but that doesn’t really matter.What DOES matter is the dunk that VC unleashed on the crowd that day.Dude got horizontal on a fool.Not vertical.Horizontal.and his left elbow hit the backboard on the sideline as he crammed it in that poor fellas face.The next day I cut out a newspaper clipping with a picture of that dunk.That newspaper is now old and crusty,kind of like Vince’s game.Granted he is still good…but that’s like saying a microwaved piece of prime rib still tastes good the night after it came straight off the grill.If I had one wish I think it would be to inject 10 more years of jumping life into VC so he could cram on some more fools,and I could get some more newspaper clippings.

  • Dagomar

    Abysmal writing.

  • Mike

    The article sucks but I love the point of it. And after this year people are going to realize how good VC actually is. Playing alongside DH, Jameer, and Rashard will give Vince the most options he’s ever had. They have the deepest team in the L and Vince is going to be the guy leading em. All-Star team and finals MVP baby

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  • GHOST (of DUANE CAUSWELL)

    ambivalence…not ambivance..unless you mean ambiance..or ambulance…fail

  • http://www.slamonline.com Pardeep

    Great article!. I really think Vince is a hall of famer I mean the guy almost has 20,000 points and he does have a rookie of the year under his belt along with being the best dunker ever. VC did get lazy and yeah he could have been the best player in the league today. But now I think he will get his moment. He could have got it before and he could have been the main man holding up the trophy but now I think VC will get to the Finals and if he faces the Lakers he may come up short. But VC is hated just like Iverson is hated and just like Kobe is hated, I remember the days VC was so fun to watch. I damn near shed a tear one day watching his mixtape and what could have been. VC is a really good basketball player that could have been really great. But I hope things turn out good for him in Orlando

  • http://www.slamonline.com/online/category/blogs/san-dova-speak-easy/ San Dova

    Thanks for the comments, and for future reference, to those who don’t care for the article, the next time, try giving some constructive criticism. Writers are editors, writers have editors, and editors have editors, and so on and so forth, and I/we miss things. Respect for all opinions, good and bad, isn’t necessary, but I give it. Try telling me or anyone else at SLAM who writes a column you don’t agree with WHY you don’t. “Abysmal writing” or saying something simply sucks, or perhaps even pointing out one word out of hundreds to exploit imperfections for imperfections’ sakes isn’t what’s up.

    I thank all of you who have spent the time to read, though.

  • charles

    Vince is a great player, no doubt. Like all the great ones before him, he reinvented his game as he got older, but no, people had and still have an insatiable appetite for the old “360 btw the leg tomahawk in your face VC”….it was quite a spectacle to behold. Truth is, no amount of weight lifting could keep him at that level after 11 seasons in the NBA.

  • http://www.teflinprague.com SAB

    Sandy, don’t listen to the haters – i was ready to join them(!), because Ambivance isn’t a word and i was wondering if i was missing some play-on-words or something! But then I got into it and, while it doesn’t say much new, it does bring the issue of VC back to the forefront, and he is one of the L’s most intriguing storylines as we enter the season. i still worry that Hedo was a better fit for that team than Vince will be, and I can’t see it working it out for them, but they’ll still be a strong team.

  • http://www.teflinprague.com SAB

    and lawlow, (unless it’s been re-edited since your comment), I don’t see anything wrong with the first sentance?

  • Homie

    I find it ironic that “to be concise” comes right after a huge run-on sentence.

  • rinspeed

    Dwayne Carter? You mean Lil’ Wayne? What?

  • http://www.digitalthread.com AlbertBarr

    I liked the article…the intro was a little clunky but it was alright. Sometimes, you just dont hit the home run…more like a double this time. Makes me want to watch some VC though

  • http://www.michaelcho.com M Cho

    This article was on point. VC is an enigma: he’s a Dodge Viper that refuses to go flat-out. For all his world-shattering talent, the dude has a tissue paper heart. I don’t even know if he really loves the game anymore. Every time he comes back from an injury, or whenever he gets traded, people always say “this is the year Vince takes over” or “He’s never been on a team this good before, so he’s gonna show the haters”…and then his team sinks to slow mediocrity. If I’m an Orlando fan, I wouldn’t be holding my breath, IMHO.

  • Sevebn Duece

    I truly don’t know what’s sadder, the way Vince’s career has gone or the fact that for some reason what he’s done hasn’t been enough for you guys. He’s a great, not good, GREAT player who’s taken a lot of flak for not being Kobe or Lebron or whoever. Why not appreciate what he’s done and leave it at that? It’s nobody’s fault, especially his own, that what the fans wanted exceeded what he produced. He’s getting into the Hall regardless of a ring, based on stats and influence on the game alone, believe that. Get off the man’s back for a hot minute and just enjoy the game. Better yet, go to a court and get a game in.

  • Buschfire

    VC coulda been a god, but i guess he was too lazy.

  • http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3445/3357407353_c868c2d95c.jpg larrylegend

    damn, vc was nearly the only reason to turn on tv back in 1999.

  • Prophecy_projectz

    I had to scroll down and check the comments, just to make sure I wasnt the only one who couldnt get past the first sentence…lol. Not to diss because it was an interesting article and a good effort but lol

  • tavoris

    +1 for Sandy Dova…I found this an entertaining read. The comments are ALWAYS full of haters-many of which don’t have a job writing about something they enjoy.

  • Frank

    I don’t understand why people think VC is an ‘enigma’. He’s just like plenty of other basketball players with plenty of natural talent but a lack of desire or heart. No matter how many times he says he’s back or he’s rejuvenated, character doesn’t change. Just see his cousin T-Mac.

  • tommy muss

    with vince the magic got a shot at the title

  • http://www.youtube.com The Promise

    Over the last few years, Vince has lost his superstar status, in my opinion, due to all the injuries. He never learned to use other skills besides jumping over people, and its took him years to get a jumpshot, and by that time, his knees were worn out from always relying on athleticism. I’ve always been a fan though. No need to hate.

  • aggnba89

    Promise i think that you are biased.what injuries you say?he has lost only 11 games the last 4.5 years with nets.you say he never learned use other skills besides jumping over people.he was and he is an excellent three point shooter.his mid range game is among the best.i think that he is the bast sg with post up game.and also his passing is very underrated.vince always was a 20+pts 5as 5reb player.but don’t worry you will see him this year….

  • Steve

    No way is VC a HOF’er. Anyone who thinks he might be should imagine this scenario … VC retired 6 years ago and has been voted in … the class is Jordan, Stockton, Robinson … and Vince Carter? It would be a disgrace to see him on the same stage with those guys. Now the fact that he might only be eligible ten years after those guys were on the stage doesn’t change the fact that he would be on the same stage they were on … and he simply does not deserve to be based on his career. Same goes for Paul Pierce by the way.

  • http://slamonline.com tealish

    @Steve: Just as an aside, if punching a ticket into the Hall requires you to be on a Jordan/Stockton/Robinson level… there are few who deserve entry and a lot who deserve to be booted out.

  • tavoris

    co-sign tealish…

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