Wednesday, November 25th, 2009 at 9:00 am  |  191 responses

Does Brandon Roy Hate America?

by Marcel Mutoni / @marcel_mutoni

That, more or less, is the question being asked by one columnist in Portland. You see, for whatever reason, Roy doesn’t stand with the rest of the team during “The Star-Spangled Banner” prior to every game, and this clearly means he’s a communist!

Well, that or he’s a selfish person. Either way, he’s a bad guy.

The floor is yours, John Canzano:

It is not a political statement. It is not a protest. He said it is not intended as a slap on patriotism, or the ongoing war but Trail Blazers guard Brandon Roy has long been absent from the Rose Garden Arena floor during the national anthem. For two seasons now, Roy leaves the court before “The Star Spangled Banner” is performed. He waits out of sight, in the arena tunnel, and has a quiet moment of prayer while his teammates stand and honor America together.

Something about that feels troubling. Roy is the Blazers captain, and leader, and two-time All Star. And while I understand his desire to have a personal moment to gather his thoughts, I think there is ample time for a meditative moment in the hours leading to the game and I worry that the statement he’s making is one of individualism.

Brandon Roy’s political or religious leanings are unknown; he says that he uses this time as an opportunity to pray and gather his thoughts. Something one would think he’s totally entitled to.

Roy says that if this rubs enough people the wrong way, he’ll stop doing it. It’s a shame that this type of thing is even up for discussion.

Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf must be rolling over in his grave.

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  • Duncan21

    Commie!!! ha j/k. Man c’mon leave the kid alone. He just wants to play basketball and he’s damn good at it. If he has his own personal business then so be it. When my friend played college ball he would do his own thing during the Spangled Banned. It was in memory of his friend that died in Afghanistan a few yrs ago and he makes a prayer when the song is playing. Never bothered anyone and no one ever questioned him

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    What I don’t understand is that alot of people are glossing over the simple fact that Roy himself said that if he knew that it offended anyone that he would stop doing it. The hate or disrespect is really not warranted.

  • http://slam liam

    ima canadian but USA is way better and i admit it. I just stopped being a Roy fan

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    People are really going to stop being a fan of his game because of this? I know of a ton of NBA stars who have done much worse. Good gracious.

  • http://myspace.com/brandnew Bryan

    Hey I’m singing the star bangled banner right now everyone stop what you’re doing and put your hand over your heart or be deported. F*ckers.

  • http://myspace.com/brandnew Bryan

    Spangled !!! Let this be a lesson to you : typo when telling a joke become the joke.

  • http://www.sonicbids.com doyouwantmore

    ALLEN IVERSON JUST ANNOUNCED HIS RETIREMENT.

  • Prophecy_projectz

    No Iverson retirement post?

  • http://myspace.com/brandnew Bryan

    Seriously though I’m as patriotic as it gets I mean I get a little salty on 4th of july celebrations when I think about how other countries may not allow such things and I’m very grateful. I’m also the first to say if you hate our country then get the f*ck out but that’s the thing he didn’t say anything negative like he hates america etc. Even talking sh*t about american is fine we have problems but that’s not what this is about we don’t know what dude is doing or praying about. Maybe he wants to be alone to shed some tears of joy or wants to pray that america gets it sh*t together so he can be really proud to say the pledge or national anthem who knows? Get off this dudes sack. If someone says ” I hate america I wish I never lived here’ I’m all for telling to leave but not even angrily just because why live somewhere you hate you know? No one wants to hear people b*tch all the time. I rambled but its because of the sheer idiocy of it all. Do I agree with him ? Not exactly I can’t know that unless I know the what and the why meaning I can’t disagree either. I’ll continue to stand and say it because I feel like it, but if my back hurts or I’ve said it 700 times in one day because apparently you have to stand and join in everytime its said now I’ll probably sit one out. The point is who gives a f*ck? Don’t get all pissed when you don’t know what its about. The level of disrespect here won’t be justified unless we find out he was funnelling his millions to some terrorist front that’s how ridiculous you ignorant f*cks were being today. Get real and get over it.

  • http://www.sonicbids.com doyouwantmore

    LOL

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Leave it to Jukai to spout a bunch of random nonsense other countries have done (which are much lesser in scale than what’s been done by the US) to justify what America has done. LOL. I’m not talking about Europe, either.

  • http://twitter.com/wealwayswin Hersey

    This is lame BUT if the league has a rule he better follow it. I used to root for Abdul-Rauf and I remember that firestorm. The league has to avoid a double standard, ie fines for trade comments- SJax fined, Kobe not.

  • g

    o well if he doesnt like America leavee!!!…go play overseas or something

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    @Rome? I don’t know what I’m talking about? How would you know whether I’m educated on 1st century christianity or not? Next you going to tell me that Jesus was born ‘Christmas Day?’
    Work it out.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Canzano is a hypocrite. Check out this earlier story where he talks about Roy and the anthem.

    http://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/index.ssf/2009/01/a_private_guy_who_should_be_in.html

  • http://www.slamonline.com/ Double R

    America!! F**k yeah!!

  • dekko

    Last year Canzano wrote an article jocking Roy for the All-star game which included…you guessed it… defending Roy’s private moment during the anthem showed what a good guy he is…

    http://tinyurl.com/ydp8jn3

    A private guy who should be in the public’s eye

    (After pointing out how hard it is to get a private moment)

    Roy retreats to the tunnel before games. He bows his head. He listens to the anthem. And Roy said: “I say a little prayer and have a little time to myself.” And maybe that doesn’t strike you as a team leader thinking team, and being part of a team, but his teammates don’t mind.

    He’s always there for his team when the lights go up, isn’t he?

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    No offense Jukai, but I remember that time you tried to convince me that there was institutional slavery in China by pointing out some underground scandal that had nothing to do with the common person or the government… To counter my condemnation of slavery in the United States. I understand you get offended when people denounce your nation, just as we all do, but come on now. Is America worse than the former European powers? OBVIOUSLY NOT. But as people living in North America–I’m a New York/Toronto guy–we have the right to speak out against what’s wrong in America, in hopes that it gets better.
    NOT THAT THIS HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH BRANDON ROY!

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Anyways, this whole issue is stupid to begin with. Brandon Roy is doing something he finds important, that really shouldn’t have to come under questioning.
    Here’s some food for thought: If it turns out Brandon Roy is Muslim, he is going to get creamed for not standing courtside for the anthem. If he is indeed Christian, people will call his acts “patriotic in their own way.”
    Anyways, isn’t praying honoring the nation in its own way?

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    People are stupid. Bye.

  • http://ameblo.jp/kurino44 Kurino

    Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf is here in Japan chillin’. He’s probably reading about this, feeling appalled.

  • Yo

    Why don’t Chinese and Vietnamese people get flak for what they did during the war? Because they didn’t invade the United States, they didn’t shoot American women and children, they didn’t spray napalm all over American towns and villages and cities, they didn’t kill hundreds of innocent American civilians, they didn’t pit Northern Americans against Southern Americans in a civil war, and they didn’t enter someone else’s country to fight a war that wasn’t even theirs to begin with.
    All casualties of war are a tragedy, however, and you have a right to be offended in some regard. The whole Vietnam War was a nightmare that should the entire world should never, ever let happen again.

  • don

    as long as ROY continues to lead my blazers, i won’t care, and if they win championship this year, i won’t care if he spends his the flag time in the tunnel, or on the bench, either ways, as long as he’s not disrespecting the flag verbally or in any sort of physical actions (like raising the middle finger), i DON’T and Won’t care.

  • chintao

    No one else found it ironic that Canzano attacks Roys “individualism” when that is one of the basic ideas behind the American way of life? Yeah, let’s all integrate with the Borg, John. I would like to individually beat Canzano’s a$$.

  • Joe King

    shouldnt be made a big deal out of when he’s playing so well

  • roybot

    canzano is a hater. end of story

  • http://slamonline.com Dave

    Good to see right-wing trolls have worked out how to do RSS searches for “hate america”.
    Thanks for your awesome generic posts, Woody.

  • rikson

    @WOODY: Its not about beeing anti-american, its about beeing anti-propaganda, youll find that out soon enough! But I understand that the time you spend with the army makes it hard for you to accept the facts! Only really strong people are able to change their believes, especially if they spend some time or base some actions upon them. Subliminal seduction 4 ever!

  • http://www.slamonline.com/online/category/blogs/san-dova-speak-easy/ San Dova

    Here’s the thing–there aren’t any patriots anymore, this isn’t 1776, so personally, I don’t get it. Patriotism these days seems more like a South Park scenario in the vein of the show’s poor white population getting on a high horse and yelling, “He/they took our JOOOOOOOOBS!” It seems sort of like that.
    Also, the anthem wasn’t mandated to be used in sports or in schools until after World War II, when the gov’t encouraged its use to boost national pride.
    And third, as the son of a Gulf War veteran, I’m well aware of the fact that the military is a necessary entity in a country really securing its strongholds. It’s nice and good to pay tribute to the military, but reciting an anthem in and of itself means nothing without conviction. Americans are about rituals, and though the symbols and continued actions in reference to America’s glorified roots are cute, history says that we probably spend too much time worrying about the small stuff (i.e. the anthem).
    In America, people are continually dying from hunger, disease and suffering generational socioeconomic depravity, and here we are, talking about an anthem and a flag–both of which are actually solving any real problems. My question is why in the world does anyone care about what Brandon Roy does? I like him as a player and everything, but I’m certainly not going to let him make me feel bad. I could care less about him standing. It doesn’t mean that I’m less caring about being an American–what it does mean is that I have bigger fish to fry…and so should the rest of those people who care one iota about him and him choices. This is asinine to judge someone based on ambiguous absence and implication.

  • J

    prayer is completely more important than any national anthem. no big deal here.

  • JoeMaMa

    Freedom isn’t free. It takes folks like you and me. And if you don’t put in your Buck Oh five who will? mmmmm buck oh five….freedom costs a buck ohhhh fiiiiiive…..

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    San Dova said all there needs to be said on this BRoy “story.” Props.

  • FoCo

    Canzano is the man. Never read a piece of his I didn’t thoroughly enjoy. The guy used to have to walk around watching for Sheed to step out and sucker punch him…dudes got Blazers journalism cred. Other than that just really saddening to see so many peoples views on the US and having pride in that ideal…

  • tavoris

    +1 for San Dova

  • sheedfan

    Let’s just leave Roy alone,he’s a good dude. Canzano even said he didn’t mean for this to go all “politics and patriotism”-it was more about team unity than anything else. This is his team. Can o’ worms.

  • OneStep

    National anthems have no place at sporting events. The sooner that political nonsense is removed from sports the better. I understand their presence perhaps at international level but at club level it’s ridiculous. Let’s face it, every NBA organisation has several non-American players representing it for whom the US anthem has absolutely no relevance. Are Americans that insecure that they cannot tolerate people not wanting to sing their damned anthem? Isn’t the US the land of the free? Does it not represent the very essence of free-speech? Or is free-speech only allowed if it toes the party-line? Get over it America. It’s just a song. And not a very good one either. And I should know, our English anthem is down there with the worst in the world!

  • Roy Eckelman

    Just another media fool trying to stir the pot just for the sake of putting frogskins in his pocket. Pathetic!!! If there is complaining to be done, leave it to a veteran!

  • Roy Eckelman

    Just another media fool trying to stir the pot just for the sake of putting frogskins in his pocket. Pathetic!!! If there is complaining to be done, leave it to a veteran!

  • Ree,p

    Here were are talkin bout the anthem…
    Not flag burning
    Not terrorism
    Not hate mongering
    The anthem……

  • Blaze

    Is this a political thing or a personal thing? I understand the dislike people have for others who disrespect the national anthem. Coming from a military famliy even they have their issues with America jus like everyone else but I dont see the disrespect standing for it or sitting for u can acknowledge the anthem anywhere. How bout the people at home to they have 2 stand? I think not its a sign of respect to stand but is it disrespectful for those who cant stand during the anthem? Looking too much into nothing. Prayer is everything to some

  • Ngoie Kafita

    AllenP and San Dova are ooh so right!
    As a reporter you should at least have an idea about the stuff you write.
    I mean the article is just B A N A N A S!
    Nowhere does he mention something about a vague idea or sources he might have used to come to such a conclusion, just a i quote: “Something about that feels troubling”
    Why?
    Because you don’t believe Roy?
    Because it looks like he is planning something?
    Or because he is a athlete and they should lead by example?
    I don’t care how much i get paid but if i believe in something and without showing any disrespect to anyone or anything i have the right to express me and most def if it’s about a simple prayer during the national anthem!
    That bein said, i m not an American citizen but as some guys already posted: all over the globe you can find xenophobia and not to sugarcoat the land of the free and brave but me bein from a mixed family, things aren’t easier here.
    A lot more hypocrits on a even bigger level.
    Just saying

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