Wednesday, November 11th, 2009 at 11:58 am  |  39 responses

Game Notes: Nuggets at Bulls

Trent Tucker strikes again.

by Bryan Crawford

It seems that the ghost of Trent Tucker is still haunting the Chicago Bulls. Back on January 15, 1990 at Madison Square Garden, the Bulls lost to the New York Knicks 106Brad Miller-109 on a three-point shot by Tucker with one-tenth of a second left on the clock. It seemed impossible that such a shot like that could be made given the amount of time left and the replays clearly showed that the clock didn’t start until after the ball was out of Tucker’s hands, not when he touched it as it should’ve been. The Bulls protested, but the ruling of the game stood. But with so much controversy surrounding the shot, it prompted the League to add a new rule to its official rulebook that says this:

NO LESS THAN :00.3 must expire on the game clock when a player secures possession of an inbounds pass and then attempts a field goal. If less than :00.3 expires in such a situation, the timer will be instructed to deduct AT LEAST :00.3 from the game clock. If less than :00.3 remain on the game clock when this situation occurs, the period is over, and the field goal attempt will be disallowed immediately whether successful or unsuccessful.

So by rule, it is possible for a player to get a shot off in three-tenths of a second and Brad Miller’s miraculous buzzer beater last night should have counted. But it didn’t and the Bulls lost a heartbreaker to the Denver Nuggets that overshadowed a lot of good things that the team accomplished on the floor last night. And not surprisingly, the interpretation of the rule is still unclear.

“I always thought 0.3 seconds was enough to get a shot off,” said Joakim Noah after the loss. He added, “The way Brad threw it up—he didn’t follow through or anything—I thought it was definitely good… How could you overrule it? There definitely wasn’t enough evidence.” The officials, as is their custom, refused to comment on the call after the game and as Bulls head coach Vinny Del Negro said, “I thought it was good when I saw it initially, but it’s irrelevant… Once they [the officials] made their decision, they’re gone.”

George Karl on the other hand—who notched win number 939 and passed the legendary Red Auerbach for 8th place in NBA history—saw things a little differently. “I had just read the rule book a couple of weeks ago,” he said after his team narrowly escaped the jaws of defeat. “You can’t pivot and make a shot with three-tenths of a second.” Said Chauncey Billups after the victory, “They were dancing and jumping around like they had just made the Sweet 16… That was a great ending man, it was fun. But that’s the NBA.”

After huddling over the courtside monitor after what seemed like forever, the officials determined that the shot was still on Miller’s fingertips as time expired and the shot was ruled no good. It was a tough way to go out after battling the Nuggets for 48 minutes and then having the final outcome decided by three guys huddling over a TV. Asked if he was a fan of the NBA’s instant replay system, Brad Miller responded with, “Not right now.”

Yes, it would’ve been great for the team to have gotten the victory last night, and the way that they lost only overshadowed all of the good things that happened on the floor last night, starting with the performance of one Joakim Simon Noah. As I watched him do his thing and score 12 points and grab a career-high 21 rebounds (15 defensive and 6 offensive) , I couldn’t help but think to myself that we were watching the second coming of Dennis Rodman, only taller, and with the ability to do more than just work the glass. He almost outrebounded Kenyon Martin and Nene by himself who combined for 22 boards and he battled both on the glass all night long and didn’t let up for one second. He may not be a dominant low-post scorer, but his effort and hustle will keep the Bulls in a lot of games and give them lots of second chance opportunities. If he keeps continuing to play the way that he has been, there’s no doubt in my mind that he shouldn’t be named the NBA’s most improved player. I know it’s only seven games into the season and it’s still early, but I’m convinced there isn’t another player in the League that has improved as much from last season to this season like Noah has.

Derrick Rose also looked very good last night and virtually neutralized Billups’ contributions on the floor, especially during the last five minutes of the fourth quarter—as the Bulls were chipping away at the Nuggets lead—as the intensity in the United Center was rising, he took and made some very big and very clutch shots, keeping his team in the thick of things.

The most impressive performance of the night which in my opinion was the masterful defensive job by Luol Deng on Carmelo Anthony who had been scorching opposing teamLuol Deng & Carmelo Anthonys in the League. The way he’s been playing of late, I came into the United Center thinking he might drop 50 on the Bulls. But Deng had other ideas as he held Melo to just 20 points on 8-22 shooting from the field. He made Melo work hard all night and that’s pretty much all you can ask a guy to do on a player who’s third in the NBA in scoring.

Still, the Bulls are who we thought they were. They’re a young, scrappy team that’s going to battle hard every night and give themselves every possible chance to win. I know that there are no moral victories in sports, but the Bulls have a lot to be proud of in terms of the way that they played last night and as fans filed out of the United Center, no one was hanging their heads, they were proud of their team too. And why shouldn’t they be? There isn’t another team in the League that gives their fans more enjoyment and more excitement than the Chicago Bulls right now. Last night truly was “Fan Night” in the United Center and whether you’re a fan of the Bulls, Nuggets, or just basketball in general, last night truly was an example of why “We love this game” and why NBA basketball is “So Amazing.”

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  • http://slamonline.com/ Ryne Nelson

    The Bulls may not win 50 games, but they’re hands down one of the most exciting teams in the League. Even without Tyrus, they’re pushing the Nuggets to the limit, and could have easily gotten the shot called in their favor. Noah is definitely integral to all of this, and I have to say he’s surpassed any and all expectations I had for him a couple years ago when the Bulls took him ninth overall. MIP at this point for sure.

  • http://slamonline.com/ niQ

    On another note, I remember everyone was hyping Derrick Rose over the summer, especially during the SLAM top 50. Everyone was expecting him to average 20 and 8 but he seems to be playing worse than last season. Sophomore slump?

  • http://slamonline.com/ niQ

    But don’t get me wrong, he did play well last night.

  • Jer Boi

    i still think it wasnt good. clearest when u see the overhead view. i think the refs made the right call

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I thought the refs made the right call.
    And Chauncey is crafty as hell on offense. It’s amazing how often he gets into the lane. That was killing the Bulls late, particulary on Denver’s last two possessions.
    John Salmns needs to dial back the chucking and DRose needs to be a tad more aggressive getting his shot. I like how he’s trying to run the offense, but he needs to find that balance on a team that needs his scoring. He’s their best perimiter scorer, not Deng or Salmons and he needs to play like that.

  • Radness

    The problem is that they called the shot good on the floor. I don’t think you can say, for a fact, that is was touching his fingertips, remember that shot by Harris last year from half court?

    From Russ’s twitter-”I’d like to the refs swear on their kids lives that in was in his hand”….or something like that.

  • Hologic

    Derrick Rose missed the whole preseason with a achilles injury. He’s not even attacking the rim or getting to the line, he’s shooting all jumpers. As soon as he get legs back he’ll be at 20& 6-7

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    I know this is basketball, but in football instant replay, if there is no indisputable evidence to overturn a call, then the call usually stands. There wasn’t really a good angle to truly determine if the ball was out of his hands or not, so IMO, the shot should’ve counted. Besides, I could see if they were on the road when it happened, but they were at home. They should’ve gotten the call.

  • http://www.twitter.com/Th3_R3al_Chris Th3_R3al_Chris

    Worst part of it all is that there was no lag between him catching and the clock starting. With Derek Fisher, the clock wasn’t started on time if you watch that replay (as is often the case). This seems to be the one time it did and Bulls were robbed.

  • Michael

    i cant believe anyone can argue the shot was good, it is pretty clear it was still in his fingers when time expired, why it took them 10 minutes to decide is beyond me.

  • http://templestark.com temple stark

    Just because you can make it with 0.3 doesn’t mean a person can or always will. However instant replay won’t improve percentag of correct outcomes.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    That Derrick Fisher point is a great argument, even though Fish’s release was a lot quicker than Miller’s. I guess that’s the difference. The refs probably figured there was no way Brad Miller could’ve gotten it off because it’s, you know, Brad Miller.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    I was dissapointed that this wasn’t written by Russ.

  • Diego Giraldo

    I didn’t like the commentators at all. This game was televised nationally and they gave us the most biased commentators in the NBA. The overhead view showed clearly that it was on his finger. I think it’s funny how the commentators shut up once they saw the overhead view.

  • http://slamonline.com Bryan Crawford

    Diego: Even though it was televised nationally, you were still watching a local Bulls broadcast. That’s why it was biased. It wasn’t an ESPN or TNT game where the commentators are neutral.

  • Orlando Woolridge

    I liked when Kendall Gill stated that B Miller’s shot at the end was a “wily veteran move”. ummm…I’m pretty sure that even Tyrus could have figured out what to do in that situation.

  • slamfan4life

    total BS calls the whole game, that was ruled GOOD but since melo sucked ass they took it away….and during the game melo tripped luol and nothing was called…..just more proof refs and Anti Chi-town

  • http://www.another48minutes.com Gerard Himself

    crap, now reading about it, I should’ve watched that game instead of Heat-Wizards….

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    saw the replay a couple of times on tv. good call. the fingertips were still touching the ball. i like the replays, the goal is to get it right. not to make the call as soon as possible, especially in that situation where it changes the outcome of the game. in cleveland’s first game they waved a lebron lay up at the end of the shotclock like 1 min after it had happened. im all for it: get it right, thats the bottom line.

  • http://www.hoopsvibe.com/nba/overdribbling/index276.html chiqo

    co-sign diego. but that was a local telecast that was broadcast nationally, hence the homerism. they even refused to acknowledge that rose goaltended a billups layup even though the replay showed like ten times that the ball hit the backboard before rose swatted it. it was like the truck was giving them time to admit they were wrong and they never did.

  • Chazz Michael Michaels

    I am a big denver nuggets fan. i have always been since allen iverson and carmelo were teamed up. i have followed them as my favored team and i watched the game last night on NBA TV. but honestly i think this game shouldve went to the bulls. At the end of this game i felt very uncertain about my nuggets winning. i felt like the bulls actually lost one, i feel guilty about this win… sad

  • JDH21

    Luol did a great job on defense guarding Carmelo all game. He has really come back strong and I am liking what I am seeing so far.

    On Noah though. Rick Morrissey a columnist for the Chicago Tribune ripped Noah when he got drafted. He said in his column if he proves me wrong i’ll eat my words. Below is a link to a clip of him eating the article with hot sauce on it in front of Noah at their practice facility.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/videobeta/watch/?watch=8d6288a3-a830-4540-8dfc-e2f5f31bb985&cat=cdf7b971-4f85-4929-8c34-06b4bd13fafa&src=front

  • http://slamonline.com/ Ryne Nelson

    Thanks for the link JDH. I think Morrissy speaks for a lot of people.

  • tavoris

    I thought the rule was it had to be a tip-in situation if it was .03 sec left. Nobody in the world can contract and expand their arms that darn fast.

  • http://slamonline.com Adam Fleischer

    That shoulda counted.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Tavoris
    I posted the rule on the other blog. The rule says that with .3 or more you can catch and shoot.

  • tavoris

    o, aiite…the rule just seems impractical, considering even the quickest releases take a little longer than that.

  • http://slamonline.com/ Ryne Nelson

    Tavoris, BMiller flicked the shot off. He didn’t go through an entire shooting motion.

  • Dfrance

    I thought that was excellent timing on the clock, it seemed to start right when he touched the ball. For those of you saying it was “clearly” still in his hands, how can you tell? Even with the overhead view, it was not a close up, there could have been the smallest of separation between his fingertips and the ball. It wasn’t clear at all and for that fact, and for all the loser Bulls fans leaving to beat traffic as soon as Billups got fouled, the call should have stood.

  • thalilbigkahuna

    With Derek Fisher it was 0.4, not 0.3 seconds. I think if Brad Miller had that extra fraction of a second the ball would have been clearly out of his hands.

  • DS44

    We was robbed!

  • JDH21

    Yea Ryne, couldn’t agree more when Noah got drafted and even most of last year too I was not sold on him. The way he is playing now though is incredible. His moves around the hoop are pretty solid and he can even handle the ball well for his size. It is just great to see someone on the court giving their all and hustling every single play.

    If only he can teach Tyrus a work ethic the Bulls could be really good. Sadly I think Tyrus compares more to Jerome James in the category than Joakim.

  • http://nicekicks.com MeloMan2.0

    @Slam4lifefan: “since melo sucked ass they took it away”
    what? darn you illiterate Bulls fans!

  • http://www.in-n-outnba.blogspot.com Lucas

    Looking at it repeatedly, you gotta give the refs some respect for not giving Miller the shot. That takes guts.

  • http://myspace.com/2grownup2beshownup Jack

    Come on Bulls fans, enough with the bias… Brad clearly has the ball still IN HIS RIGHT/SHOOTING hand when the time expires. Pause it as soon as you see the backboard light up, and what do you know, the ball is still touching his hand.

  • http://slamonline.com tealish

    Someone mentioned it, but it’s so irrelevant to check replay to make sure if the ball left his hand in time if no one cares about when the clock starts. Derek Fisher’s release was faster than Brad Miller’s? I don’t think so. Brad Miller damn near set the ball, volleyball style and still couldn’t get the call at home. The scorekeepers starting and stopping the time has to be reviewable somehow. It’s messy, but all this video replay, looking at the shooter’s fingertips are trumped by the guy with the stopclock. Meh.

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    the article wasn’t written by Russ??????? I aint even reading it.

  • tavoris

    thanks for the extra clarification, Ryne….I’m still on the “can only tip it in or slam it in” bandwagon tho

  • james

    didnt get it off i think his finger was still on it when the buzzer went

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