Thursday, November 26th, 2009 at 9:00 am  |  133 responses

Is This Really the End for AI?

by Marcel Mutoni / @marcel_mutoni

For now, the only two people who seem absolutely certain that this is the end of Allen Iverson’s career, are A.I. himself and his personal manager, Gary Moore. Everyone else is still in a bit of shock, and waiting (some hoping) to see if The Answer eventually changes his mind.

Taking a read through Iverson’s official statement regarding the retirement, one can’t help but get the feeling that even he’s not totally convinced this is the end:

I would like to announce my plans to retire from the National Basketball Association. I always thought that when I left the game, it would be because I couldn’t help my team the way that I was accustomed to. However, that is not the case.

I still have tremendous love for the game, the desire to play, and a whole lot left in my tank. I feel strongly that I can still compete at the highest level.

That doesn’t sound like a guy who’s ready to hang up his Reeboks forever. If anything, it sounds like a man without a country, so to speak.

Players around the League expressed sadness to see him leave the game like this, and his former coach Larry Brown says he plans to contact Allen about the decision and attempt to talk him out of it.

For the time being anyway, it’s time to say goodbye to one of the most amazing players to ever play in the NBA. He did it his way — and though he didn’t always do it the “right way” (which may have ultimately pushed him out of the League) — you have to respect him for that.

Thanks for the memories, A.I. Here’s to many more down the line.

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  • youngmuggsy Posted: Nov.26 at 9:12 am
    He’ll sulk for a few months and then announce his comeback.

  • Trout Posted: Nov.26 at 9:12 am
    I won’t believe this… it can’t end this way. I know people retire or leave the game every year and it was going to happen at some point but like this!!! NO PHILLY STAND UP GET YOUR BOY BACK!

  • Yesse Posted: Nov.26 at 9:13 am
    Im glad people still support AI even though he has been through alot of downs now.I hope he really changes his mind or atleast goes to europe for a little while.

  • 360vue Posted: Nov.26 at 9:19 am
    I’m hoping Larry can coax him round, and hopefully offer him a roster spot! He evidently still wants to ball, and dude is still better than 3/4 of the guards in the L, enough said.

  • 360vue Posted: Nov.26 at 9:20 am
    @Trout I wish we coud have AI back, but we got way too many young cats who need to be developed… still, if its Phila or retirement, I’d hope we would have him, it is the least we could do

  • Foobar Posted: Nov.26 at 9:21 am
    F**k the Philadelphia 76ers organization! Show some respect and sign him back, it’s not like the team is anywhere near a championship. It’s his rightfully throne, let him reign over it for a few more years.

  • kh Posted: Nov.26 at 9:30 am
    Say it ain’t so Chuck!
    Thanks for everything A.I, you will be missed.

  • Michael Posted: Nov.26 at 9:30 am
    why the hell doesnt larry just sign him

  • JoeMaMa Posted: Nov.26 at 9:32 am
    Put him on the Celtics/Lakers/Magic/Spurs and let him collect a ring. If not, I’ll believe that Stacey King > Allen Iverson.

  • ro Posted: Nov.26 at 9:34 am
    what a way to waste your talent.
    This is what happens when a sport highlights individuals over the sport itself. You get undeniable talents who can’t cope with playing as a team.
    Really, how hard is it to just play as part of a team- maybe even teach/ help out the other players….make the others better. The only thing that has put AI in this position is his ego. Because if he had been in control of his ego in the firstplace he wouldn’t have been in memphis. And he would probably have a chip too

  • BETCATS Posted: Nov.26 at 9:38 am
    I have NO problem trading DJ and having Felton come off the bench if we can get AI. As long as we re-sign Acie Law to a long term contract, i would be happy. Acie has better potential than DJ and is bigger. I would welcome Iverson to the Bobcats, hopefully Larry Brown is working stuff out right now.

  • funkdoc Posted: Nov.26 at 9:39 am
    What Kenny Smith said on NBA TV made total sense: why the hell didn’t the Knicks pick him? They had nothing to lose, it is already a huge mess and they need a go-to-guy. I guess this is all a huge conspiracy in the Knicks’ office to play extremely bad and then get Bron en D-wade. This is a very sad thing. Everybody in sport is competitive, but I can’t understand why a team wants to suck just to have a chance to be good in the future.

  • Bballrehab Posted: Nov.26 at 9:42 am
    Seriously, the Knicks would be a perfect match for him; he would be the man in that team and score his 25-28 points per game, which seems to be the most important thing for him.

  • BETCATS Posted: Nov.26 at 9:43 am
    Iverson-Jackson-Wallace-Diaw-Chandler plus a bench of Nazr, Flip Murray, Acie Law, whoever we trade DJ for, Gerald Henderson, and Derrick Brown with Larry Brown coaching will be a extemely hard team to beat.

  • 360vue Posted: Nov.26 at 9:54 am
    @ro can I just say that is completely unfair. Either you are a truly ignorant “fan” of basketball, or you believe what ever the media spews out without considering the full picture… AI’s work ethic as a professional baller is something that should never be replicated… but to call him an example of an ego before team /selfish etc is nonsense. I cannot even count how many times this dude has come out to play injured for his TEAM (and we are talking at least 100games+, thats more than season of games played injury and banged up). Quite simply, he is the definition of a warrior, you name an injury and AI has probably played through it… Is that to boost his ego? So his depleted stats can lower his career averages? Oh yes that is truly logical, he is soooooo selfish! He does it gets his team the win. I have seen this guy give so many chances to team mates to help the team go along and they have failed him, meaning for the team to have any chance of victory he has to singlehandedly carry them through to the final whistle.. AI has been put with some talented players in his time (Huges, Stackhouse) but they offered the same as AI but in a worse package… and he also had some talented big men (Coleman, Mutumbo) but when he was blessed with such big men the rest of the team would have barely made the bench on worse teams in the L….Most of other players would have given up long before, but no AI consistently dragged an awful team to playoff appearance after playoff appearance… HOW THE FCUK IS THAT SELFISH? HE COULD AND MAYBE SHOULD HAVE LEFT YEARS AND YEARS AGO. The fact he refuses to apply effort in practice or deal with post game analysis etc is lamentable but it isn’t selfishness… its overconfidence, overconfidence in the fact that he doesnt need others to tell him how to improve or what to do, he was already as great as he could be, all done by the sweat on his own brow and not others. SO PLEASE CEASE WITH YOUR DOWNRIGHT IGNORANT, “KNOW-ALL-THE-ANGLES” OF AI’S CAREER NONSENSE because its SICKENING AND ARROGANT

  • Goat Posted: Nov.26 at 9:55 am
    Drinking in the morning again eh BETCATS? Your Bobcats might have smoked my Raptors last night, but if you add both Iverson and Capt. Jack to that team within a few weeks of each other, it will be only a matter of time before everyone is fighting over shots and pissed off with 45+ losses.

  • Michael Posted: Nov.26 at 9:56 am
    @BETCATS, what is going on with Nazr right now? i thought the dude had disappeared out of sight but he seems rejuvenated…was he injured?

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  • Hoodsnake Posted: Nov.26 at 10:09 am
    Wouldnt whoever have signed this headache in the offseason? Please people there are far too many intruigng players out there. Let iverson enjoy his time off and spending his money on parties and strippers. He will be back when he is broke – dont dispair

  • LeoneL Posted: Nov.26 at 10:21 am
    @360vue, AMEN!!!

  • Bryan Posted: Nov.26 at 10:25 am
    Bet , acie law? Really?

  • Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Nov.26 at 10:28 am
    Goat doesn’t know anything about basketball.
    If Iverson can win 50+ games with CARMELO ANTHONY, obviously he can deal with Stephen Jackson.

  • ro Posted: Nov.26 at 10:29 am
    @360vue
    the only thing stopping him from playing now is that he refuses to come off the bench. He wouldnt do it in detroit. He wouldn’t do it in Memphis. No one else will pick him up because they know he won’t come off the bench. And that IS nothing but an ego thing.
    Perhaps it is his warrior past that has spoiled him. If he could go from ‘leader’ (i.e. having to be because of those around him, as you suggest) to playing a lesser (but significant) role on a team he would still be playing. Sadly it seems he can’t.

  • BETCATS Posted: Nov.26 at 10:34 am
    Shia: Acie ran the offense greatly last night. Throwing alley oops, getting steals, just overall beasting……. Micheal: Nazr was in Larry’s doghouse but got out and is doing well.

  • BETCATS Posted: Nov.26 at 10:35 am
    Goal you cant be more wrong. Both those guys listen to Larry Brown. Both want to win. Both have no problem with each other. I can only see sucess. If Iverson could play with Melo and Kenyon Martin, he can play with Stephen Jackson.

  • Foobar Posted: Nov.26 at 10:36 am
    @ro he is the second best player of the ’96 draft and one of the 30 best players currently. He is the 5th best scorer in the history of the NBA. He has taken a team to the NBA finals all by himself. He has scored 50+ more times than anyone else note named Kobe Bryant. And yes, he can still produce like that. He *is* a starter, I don’t care what anyone says.

  • BETCATS Posted: Nov.26 at 10:40 am
    Hoodsnake, i am pretty sure Iverson could spend $10,000 a day and never go broke. But he does not have a reputation as a guy who makes money to waste it. Overall, the Iverson bashing in here is sorta annoying. Just be glad you got to watch his career, and find solance in the fact it may not be over. If you dont, i will walk over you like your name is Tyronne Lue.

  • ro Posted: Nov.26 at 10:58 am
    Yeah…he may be a starter but unless he is willing to, occasionally, not be a starter, then he isn’t going to play at all. and i think we all agree we would rather we got to see SOME AI on the court in the next few years than none at all…right?

  • Joel O's Posted: Nov.26 at 11:13 am
    Ironically, AI is right. “I always thought that when I left the game, it would be because I couldn’t help my team the way that I was accustomed to.” Well, he couldn’t anymore, not the last 2 seasons. And that right there’s the problem, isn’t it – “the way (he) was accustomed to”.

  • Jukai Posted: Nov.26 at 11:28 am
    David Aldridge last night wanted to bash the hell out of AI, but was holding himself back. He kept starting to second guess AI’s decision than pause for a second and say he isn’t AI so he really shouldn’t say thing like that. It was pretty humorous.
    Eric Snow was ready to stab someone who dared to suggest AI was ever in the wrong.

  • 360vue Posted: Nov.26 at 11:33 am
    @ro
    I comprehend what you are saying, but the fact remains AI doesn’t warrant/deserve or even need to come off the bench in probably 20 teams in this L. Detroit treated him like sh!t, he was guaranteed to start every game, however, the ignorant Dumars completely and utterly negated to think of the impact that removing Billups from the Pistons would do, not only technically on the court in terms of style of play and hustle on D, but also the fact that removing the undeniable leader and most loved and respected player on the team would go down. AI wasn’t welcome in Detroit by anyone in the franchise except Dumars and probably some fans. He got dropped to the bench, kicked up a fuss, and then a magical backinjury ensured he was de-activated… Nah, not buying that, AI only plays fewer than 60 games a season when he has broken or snapped something. As for Memphis, maybe the plan of the coach was to start Conley, although from everything I heard, the FOCUS was to develop Conley whilst giving AI what he wanted. Let’s be frank about the Grizz, they had like 24-58 last year, one of the worst in the L, Conley could BE good but he isn’t good yet. Conley ain’t got jack sh!t right to be starting over AI. Also, the Memphis management were quite literally licking AIs balls after he signed… ‘one of the greatest guards ever’ ‘he will help us get to the top’ ‘he has YEARS of quality play left in him’ and so on and so on… Can’t you see how if AI is faced with all smut and praise from management but then gets to the start of the season after returning from injury and some amateur point guard is preventing him from getting him 30minutes a game?! I don’t care if you’re the nicest person on earth, that treatment is a slap in the face and completely contrasts with everything the management said publicly; and if they said such nice things publicly and considering they’re a god awful team they must have flattered even more in private. AI got mistreated in his last two years, his last season of REAL ball with a team he was happy on and the team were happy with HIM, he averaged 26/7/3/1 on like .460% FG… There is more to the situation that the smear that after his stints at their respective clubs the Grizz and Pistons management have said… They’re covering their own asses in this

  • Jose Posted: Nov.26 at 11:45 am
    Man we talkin about retirement!not leave of absence.naw, but retirement! I hope he’s happy wit whatever decision AI decides to make.(Really retire or come back)

  • FoCo Posted: Nov.26 at 11:46 am
    Everyone do yourself a favor and read what Balls Don’t Lie had to say today on the matter. I suppose the Question that is going to be Answered is “who is the next selfish mega millionaire to pull a Farve”. If the guy had just went about ANYTHING the right way since making it to the league there would be nobody, NOBODY hating on him. But he has time and again refused to become a better teammate. I dare anyone to defend his showing up late, missing practice, partying all night and taking the young guys with him, complaining about his PT AFTER ONE GAME, and I won’t even mention Detroit. If only he could have once been the bigger man…but I guess that impossible since we all know he is 4 foot nothin and his heart makes up another almost 2 feet yadda yadda yadda. This is just another episode of AI quitting and this time on a game not just a team like he did in the end at Philly, and in Detroit, and in Memphis…only he’ll be back so the story isn’t over.

  • Adam Fleischer Posted: Nov.26 at 11:54 am
    Man this sucks.

  • tavoris Posted: Nov.26 at 11:55 am
    @360vue…no need to elaborate again 4 these hating idiots. If anyone thinks that Iverson didn’t have a right to expect 2 start over players who were inferior WHEN THE TEAM IS LOSING has no idea about how to win a basketball game. Maybe if some-any of them-had a semblance of a playing PRIME, then they’d understand the frustration of having their good years wasted by inept coaching & management. Popovich, Melo, Lebron, Wade, and Nowitzki already summed it up quite clearly with their sentiments about the guy’s legacy.

  • The Wize Posted: Nov.26 at 12:00 pm
    This is BAD NEWZ A bad season for my faves – Starbury is off the radar, this debacle with AI (please can we get a sixth man and a chip in beantown?!) I’m guessing Kobe is not about to fall off though…unless Shaq and James triumph in the finals…worst season ever? hahaha definitely NO, the lockout was really sh!t hahaha

  • 360vue Posted: Nov.26 at 12:04 pm
    @FoCo you are so naive. Half of what you wrote is nonsense. Nobody would be hating on him if he had handled himself with decorum? Get real, there are irrational muppets out there who hate just down to pure envy. And I suspect that’s why some many have gladly latched onto the media’s predomiannt portion of nonsense on this man. You can’t defend his attitude as a professional sports player, but to say he disregarded his team are the words of a true tool blinded by hate. All I can say on his unprofessional attitude is that despite the fact he really applied himself in training, if he went, or the fact he partied hard each night, he went out EVERY EVENING and GAVE HIS ALL on the court, far out stripping the vast majority of players who dedicate their entire careers to getting better. HE WAS ABOUT AS NATURAL A BALLER AS YOU CAN GET, his behaviour isnt always acceptable, and sometimes it warrants condemnation, but it does NOT WARRANT OR REQUIRE HATRED, BILE AND LIES upon one the greatest to have played the game. He is human for goodness sake, I can already gather you yourself are flawed individual, most of you are, so get the fcuk of your pedestal because you don’t belong there

  • M Cho Posted: Nov.26 at 12:06 pm
    It seems like every piece of Iverson news since he was traded to the Pistons has made me go “wtf??”. This is no different. This looks to me like the most bizarre way for the little man with the big heart to go out. The crazy thing is, you KNOW AI won’t enjoy being away from the game, so at the very least he’ll come back in a year — and then he’ll be older and his stock will have dropped even further and he’ll HAVE to come off the bench.

  • 360vue Posted: Nov.26 at 12:07 pm
    @tavoris… true that, true words! I should take comfort in all the compliments the PROFESSIONALS have laid upon this legends career. They know more than any of us… However, it is deeply frustrating to see such hate and disgust piled upon somebodys retirement, they can’t even be like ‘cheers for the ride’ or say ‘thanks for the good memories’ after all he has done, truly saddening.

  • Orlando Woolridge Posted: Nov.26 at 12:12 pm
    BET, you were the one telling me how much better DJ was than Felton as a PG and that its just a matter of time before its his team when I mentioned that I didn’t understand the hype surrounding DJ last year. Its amazing how people disagree just to disagree or to show how much more knowledge they have.

  • Orlando Woolridge Posted: Nov.26 at 12:13 pm
    …now you’re going to tell us that Acie Law has more potential than DJ?

  • niQ Posted: Nov.26 at 12:15 pm
    Yahoo! is saying that he’s already reconsidering retirement.. Wow. that was shortlived…

  • tavoris Posted: Nov.26 at 12:16 pm
    @360vue, my elders would chalk that up to a lack of “home training”. Also, it confirms that they prolly never competed athletically, nor do they understand the basic principle of sportsmanship. “Be humble in victory, and gracious in defeat”

  • tavoris Posted: Nov.26 at 12:18 pm
    in BETCATS’s defense, DJ has regressed so far this season. He’s a lot more Conley than Nash these days.

  • FoCo Posted: Nov.26 at 12:18 pm
    @tavoris I would like elaboration. Please tell me how he was in the right to start complaining AFTER THE FIRST GAME. AFTER THE FIRST GAME. AFTER THE FIRST MUTHA%$#^ING GAME. I cannot state that enough. He only played 3 games total before he gave up. Has he stuck with it he could be the starter right now. There is a time and a place for everything and he never stumbled upon either of them.

  • 360vue Posted: Nov.26 at 12:19 pm
    @niQ you have made my day with such a post. thank you ever so much, although yahoo haven’t said much on it, you talkin bout the article by JE Skeets with the youtube video at the bottom?

  • tavoris Posted: Nov.26 at 12:21 pm
    Foco, the website has tage that allow you to search articles about partivular players. I’d like to direct u there.

  • DIMITRIS DIAMANTIDIS Posted: Nov.26 at 12:26 pm
    of course this ain’t the end….(thank god). a guy with the mental talent of A.I. will ALWAYS come back if there is still some dollars left to be made no matter how humiliating are the intentions of his future potential bosses(like in Memphis when he was publicly hired for marketing reasons).When you got no pride ,like Iverson clearly stated through his Memphis signing, ANYTHING can happen….

  • FoCo Posted: Nov.26 at 12:29 pm
    @360vue I can and will say he disregarded his team. He didn’t show up to practices that would have improved if not him then his teammates. You play against the best you get better. Is anyone questioning that? He could never adapt to any role other than options 1A-4C for his teams out of disregard for the rest of them. Find the part where I claimed to be flawless? I’m not and nobody on this Earth is but most of us have a little more comport than Allen Ezaile Iverson. As for his playing hurt it was probably because AI believes in his mind that even a one legged, half blind AI is still the best basketball player of all Time and should be able to step on the court on day 1 in front of Mike Who? Mike Conley.

  • DIMITRIS DIAMANTIDIS Posted: Nov.26 at 12:34 pm
    IVERSON : “the most famous player to NEVER win ANYTHING, NOWHERE of all time”. Even if this achievement is a negative one it is still phenomenal the way modern marketing managed to create such a strong selling ‘persona/cartoon hero’ out of COMPLETELY NOTHING.This has the potential to be in the future a case study in Business schools all over the world…..professor Kotler would certainly be prood!!!!!

  • DIMITRIS DIAMANTIDIS Posted: Nov.26 at 12:41 pm
    “Applaud Iverson for his usual honesty, if you wish, but be advised that basketball historians will make a very clear distinction between gamer and winner when it’s time to write A.I.’s legacy. For all his unique offensive gifts as a little guard, coupled with an unmatched ability to absorb punishment, Iverson consistently put his own agenda ahead of his team’s. The only truly successful Iverson team — Philadelphia’s NBA Finals team in 2000-01 — was built on the premise that A.I. would take all the shots and the other four guys on the floor would cover him on D and chase down all the misses. In short: Iverson has always wanted to play more than he wanted to win………Forget, for a moment, that pretty much no one who follows this sport thinks he’s serious about staying away if the phone rings. Let’s try to ignore the fact that Iverson’s retirement statement, as one of my editors cracked, reads more like a job application than a farewell, with claims that there’s “a whole lot left in my tank” and Iverson’s strong belief that he “can still compete at the highest level.” MARC STEIN

  • 360vue Posted: Nov.26 at 12:49 pm
    @FoCO read what I said, I didn’t say you thought yourself flawless, I said, that as we are human, almost every one of us are flawed, and yet you are bashing the man like he is a murderer or rapist. get a sense of perspective. Oh and the practice thing is soooooo exaggerated, the vast majority he turned up for, and when the coach kicked up a fuss, AI responded with the now legendary lines… so if thats you’re basis for him disregardign his team, stop posting on this matter! As a sixers fan, I have seen this guy in probably what is nearing 500 games, I know this guy is selfless for his team, even if his professional attitude sucks, so honestly please don’t comment on stuff you have evidently little knowledge on. Your comments seem based predominantly on dislike for the man rather than actual knowledge of the man. Oh and a blind, one legged AI is better than Conley, Conley, right now, sucks, hes got potential but so what? Grizz have two probable future all stars they should worry about grooming, but keeping them should be first priority, and giving AI adequate minutes would have given them a far greater number of wins than they will manage without him. Who wants to be a team that can’t manage a respectable team? Certainly not future All stars

  • ciroqobama Posted: Nov.26 at 1:01 pm
    @360vue: We get it… Easy with the caplocks dork.

  • FoCo Posted: Nov.26 at 1:04 pm
    @360vue I think you said with regards to him coming back to Philly you’d rather see him play somewhere else because you want to develop your young guys. Isn’t that what Memphis is being bashed upon for doing? As a Nuggets fan I’ve seen AI in a few games myself…and they were entertaining games. Most of them were victories too…but I also know I saw with my own eyes Iverson taking to many shots and failing to lead my favorite team past the first round. I remember the day the trade with Philly happened. My dad asked me how happy I was that we got AI (heck I still remember going to see AI come to town with the Sixers one year on my birthday…beat the Nuggets…but I caught a free t-shirt) and I told him that I wasn’t and that I loved to watch the guy play but only if it was on someone else’s team. I’ll admit my view is also partially clouded by the fact the the Nuggets gave up Dre to get him. This is not a statement related in any way to the talent between the two but I loved Dre as a Nugget and really that whole team. Finally I have never questioned AI’s talent. I fully admit that the man is an amazing basketball player. I just can’t get past the fact that neither he nor anybody on his side can seem to admit that this is potentially his fault whats happening here and that he needs an attitude adjustment. See this quote from his manager ““It’s no secret that Allen has been unfairly treated through all this.”

  • 360vue Posted: Nov.26 at 1:16 pm
    @FoCo Your Nugs hadn’t got past first without him, so thats another major flaw in your argument. Another fact, AI always takes lots of shots, not too many, Carmelo’s play improved with him. Also, his shooting averages were the best they had ever been. I can’t see how you can complain that he leads you to victory on his own back, but he takes too many shots? Don’t be so fussy. Another issue, don’t try degrade what I stated about Sixers needing to progress…. Conley sucks, Williams is way better even if he isnt even close to being a true point. And considering we have had this rebuilding vibe going on since AI left, many years ago, it would seem foolish that we take him back. Whereas, Grizz aren’t rebuilding, they never had anything to rebuild, they need to keep their talent, and having awful season after awful season isnt going to do that. So yes, there is no hypocrisy in me saying Grizz should of played him, whilst us Sixers should focus on developing what we have… One more thing, ” this is potentially his fault whats happening here” you can’t even say with castiron certainty that it is, because you don’t. His attitude as professional is lamentable and ideally should be improved, however, if you can’t see he get the rough end of the stick for the last couple of years then you undeniably have a dislike for this man that blinds you. His manager is right, he has been untreated unfairly, his attitude as poor as it can be doesn’t warrant how he had been handled in Motown or in Memphis

  • FoCo Posted: Nov.26 at 1:34 pm
    @360vue But I will say with certainty that its his fault. I’m attacking the people in AI’s corner who won’t even look at the possibility out of the corner of their eyes. Any possibility that Melo improved with AI in town simply because he was a young player maturing as he got older and spent more time playing at an NBA level? Who is to say they wouldn’t have kept improving and gotten to the next level without Iverson? Maybe it was going to take another guy, a next level leader and teammate who had been to the mountaintop before like Chauncey but AI wasn’t that guy for the Nuggets and ultimately didn’t pan out. Not saying he hasn’t had a hard time this past year but I do believe that he has contributed greatly to that and didn’t give himself a chance to succeed in Memphis even if the cards were stacked against him in Detroit. Anyway its time for family business…Happy Thanksgiving to you all

  • BETCATS Posted: Nov.26 at 2:49 pm
    Orlando, DJ is having a sophmore slump. Last year i believed DJ would be better than Felton. Most people agreed with me. This year, DJ is sucking and their is really no reason for it. Had DJ kept on improving, i would have favored trading Felton, but Dj haa gotten worse (not sure why) and needs to go if we want to win now. Throughout his career Acie Law is consistant, while DJ isnt. Acie just hasnt been given a chance. He is a Larry Brown player (big, strong point guard) so i think he will do better in Larry’s system and has more star potential within it then DJ does.

  • matt Posted: Nov.26 at 4:03 pm
    AI should go to cavs. Cavs have d.west(who rarely plays), coby karl(has he even played a game yet), and AP. AP is good and all, but he can’t play over 30 mins a night and is not clutch(im a raps fan, i know what im talking about). AI and AP could split time(AP when defense is needed, AI when offense is needed). AI would start, also, think about how good their bench would be, also, how about big z for david west. now think about this cavs team:
    Starters:
    Mo williams, AI, LeBron, David West, Shaq
    Daniel Gibson, AP, J.Moon, JJ Hickson, A. Varejao
    Also, Leon Powe would be back in january or february to help in the playoffs and end of season.

  • Prophecy_projectz Posted: Nov.26 at 4:31 pm
    Dunno if any of you are on twitter but they were saying that John Thompson was on his radio show today and said Iverson is NOT retiring…whaat gives?
    http://phtbasketball.com/2009/11/allen-iverson-will-not-retire/

  • Izzo Posted: Nov.26 at 4:55 pm
    This is nobody’s fault but his own.

  • M-Blog Posted: Nov.26 at 4:57 pm
    @Jukai ..LMAO @ THE E-SNOW COMMENT

  • doyouwantmore Posted: Nov.26 at 5:16 pm
    Kids these days…Why is it so hard for so many people to realize that being talented/individualist/interesting/driven means you get to do whatever you want? Personally I think it’s great that no one wants to pick up AI. Men lie, women lie, numbers don’t – and the number of teams who want to deal with a man-child who thinks he’s the Center of the Universe is ZERO. No one is saying that AI isn’t a great player. Talent-wise I’d probably put him down as the second or third most naturally gifted player ALL TIME. Doesn’t that tell you something? Too many people been raised to think that the world owes them something because of who they are, what they are, or what they did, and that’s a lie. Talent can make you rich and famous, but lacking in character and perspective makes for a lot of flashy losers who think they’re somebody special. No disrespect to AI, but much disrespect to people who think they can do whatever they want without consequence.

  • DIMITRIS DIAMANTIDIS Posted: Nov.26 at 5:23 pm
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  • M Cho Posted: Nov.26 at 5:41 pm
    @Dimitris: Yeah, stay classy, dude.

  • Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Nov.26 at 5:59 pm
    Ummmmm, no Joel O. Just no. You don’t think he could help the freaking Knicks by leading them and playing crunchtime minutes? You don’t think he could benefit the Grizzlies by getting 25 and 5? Don’t tell me you’re serious.

  • RoG23 Posted: Nov.26 at 6:12 pm
    This dude is too immature. He only wants to do things his way. Not do things that are best for him and his team, but HIS way. Come on now, he is definately one of the greatest talents, but a great player is more than just talent. A great player is one who is successful and is willing to make any sacrfice necessary to better his team. Ala garnett, duncan, artest, even shaq !!! If shaq can put his ego aside, why can’t ai?????

  • Pardeep Posted: Nov.26 at 6:17 pm
    Kenny Smith summed it up on nba tv last night these guys know the truth AI CAN GET 25 in his sleep but players are scared of him because of his entourage and his style.

  • tavoris Posted: Nov.26 at 6:31 pm
    Pardeep, that’s not that he said. He said teams are scared because of that they’ve HEARD about an entourage. If you listen to his use of tone, u realize what he was REALLY trying to say (there isn’t one anymore)

  • k.dot.b.dot Posted: Nov.26 at 6:32 pm
    I find the whole situation kinda sad, same way I find the Starbury situation sad as well. First off my opinion is only my opinion and I dont state anything here as fact, more perception. I am not going to say I know anything about the real AI since I do not. I used to be a HUGE AI fan, up until after the 2001 season. From that point onwards he has disappointed me in many ways, his last 2 years being the epitome of everything I hate in prof. athletes. I wont deny that the guy is a hell of a bballer and has a heart of a lion. However you also have to question his true motives when he behaves the way he has over the last 2 seasons.
    I can only go with the evidence I have at hand, since I am not privy to the back-door goings on of the NBA and I think the media has a bit of a hate on when it comes to AI. So with that, I look at the aftermath of Iverson leaving a team and what I see (or perceive) is that they look much happier. I know Philly aint no contender right now, but other than when they got to the finals, they weren’t doing a whole lot either. The Nuggets definitely got better, Detroit at least are playing cohesively again with what they have and with Memphis he wasn’t there long enough, even though I swear I saw quotes of him saying that he was looking forward to playing with a young team and competing for a spot.
    On the flip though I have to say I think there are plenty other players who would also have a problem with not starting. Iverson though through being out-spoken has become a media poster-child for the “spoiled thug NBA athlete” and for those with a racist heart it goes a level deeper. Regardless AI will go down as a beast of a baller, but will he be remembered as a true winner? I dont think so, he’ll be remembered in the same light as ‘Nique is.

  • Pardeep Posted: Nov.26 at 6:34 pm
    even if there was an entourage who cares lol hes there to play basketball and Eric Snow and Kenny both know AI can drop 25 in his sleep.

  • Liam Duignan Posted: Nov.26 at 7:37 pm
    Hey Iverson if you here me my highschool team will take you. You’ll have to come of the bench though hahaha

  • Okitech623 Posted: Nov.26 at 7:41 pm
    After AI was officially released from the Grizz more came out about what really went down initially. The team, in their big meeting with AI in the ATL where they sealed the deal, told AI that he would be coming off the bench initially but would be given a chance to COMPETE for the starting job. He accepted this knowing that as of right then it was his only chance to keep playing ball in the L. He got hurt in the preseason before any games were played and missed the first couple of regular season games. How could anybody in their right mind who’s played no games preseason or otherwise and barely practiced with his new team expect to start for one and two play significant minutes IN HIS FIRST GAME BACK FROM AN INJURY! Dude is a busta. Mad talented. Huge heart. Yadda, yadda, yadda. But he’s still a busta. My Grizz are better off without him. 4 and 1 since he left. Finally gelling and playing like a team . If he had stayed it would have been AI (and those other Grizzlies) vs. everybody else. So what if he could/would have dropped 25+ a night. Would that have made the TEAM better? I don’t think so. All it would have done is make his ego bigger while our young talent (Mayo, Gay, Gasol, etc.) wasted away and picked up bad habits. Is AI better that Conley? Yep. Conley can’t even tie AI’s shoelaces but he was brought in to a)put butts in the seats b)mentor the young talent and help them become better ball players. He knew that going in but got mad when the team actually did what they said they were going to do. And when they didn’t cave in to his tantrum he quit. Good riddance.

  • Donn Posted: Nov.26 at 9:58 pm
    Louis Williams out for 6-8 weeks…hmm…c’mon philly just sign AI already…i’ve seen the crowds at your arena and man, are they sparse…i mean, even the memphis grizzlies laugh at your attendance figures…bring the Answer back and the crowds will come back..i think…really, what do you have to lose?

  • samuel harrison Posted: Nov.27 at 1:07 am
    i herd today that the famous number 3 has retired? no way i mean i cant say i was suprised because the way things have ben going, but wait the same hungry allen iverson who crossed jordan his rookie year and became the symbol of heart and struggle and passion for philly? wow i mean so stoked when he played his first game , because it was supposed to be his rebirth as a player, lol ha and he came out and in my eyes was the best player out ther and seemed to score like classic A i .i mean that killer instink, that ruthless and raw skill , where, if you love him or hate hime ,all you can do is just sit back and say wow , clean, fast,easy, these are words i here when i watch him. He has will probably always be my favorit player , never seen a guy do the same moves the greats were doing , but like a whole lot faster ,i mean he won a champion ship game in highschool football and baskettball in the same year…. uhh what! have we forgot allready , peaple and coaches in bethal high school now say before ther was a michael vick, there was a alllen iverson… amazing punt return artist, and QB, he was unbelievable to watch as i chiled , ide like to call it god gifted, chiled protagy.speed of a jaguare and living in philly naturaly he had the eye of the tiger.i mean me being a baller myself i relate to hime a 100 percent, its not easy out here. it so easy to get cought up in everything out there …he has had his struggles and unlike every clean cut nba player , he was not ashamed to be real ,and hide these things that made him who he was, he was proud of his life and his tatoos they represted his journey in life and how he got out of a poverty. he is a voise to all the great street ball kids i philly and across the world , because he was the first one to stand up and say I AM… im here and you like the world cant stop me he put it all on the line and has nuthing to be ashamed of ,thank you allen for all the great moments , and nights on you tube where i can watch you amaze me yet again. as i come to my end ide just like to say dont let the tatoos the corn rows and gangster attitud daceive you , ARTIST thats what he was, like a roy jones jr , floyd mayweather, a talent that comes in once in a life time,i told myself it was always my dream to see allen iverson play one time in my life!!! when he got to memphis i bought a ticket to san antonio, spurs vs grizz sumtime in months to come, and they were right behind the grizzlies bench haha , never got to see him play, but still remember the lakers sixers game 1 champion ship when allen crossed that dude on the side lines, and then with hits the shot and steps over the guy. as to say i will not die today!!! i will love and miss you a i . hopefully you come back to us!!!! 1 last thing take this into consideration allen, jason kidd, jason williams , paul pierce ray allen , kobe bryant yeah i said it… these are guys not to long ago were out running and out hussiling, and with your heart and durable body you shoulked be out ther still showing off your pure skil.so many haters out there, but they dont understand the game or dont understand you….come back!!! i herd once that guarding you was like trying to hold water in the poum of your hand lol the answer is gone all we can do is sit back and remember….

  • Pardeep Posted: Nov.27 at 1:12 am
    Great write up Samuel and I agree with all that and am going to be the first to say there will never be another Allen Iverson.

  • J Posted: Nov.27 at 1:28 am
    If Larry was really talking to Iverson then I hope things could work out. And he can suit up for the team which I think is the best fit for him,.. Bobcats.

  • TripleDouble Posted: Nov.27 at 3:21 am
    Anyone that is happy to see AI retire, or anyone that has used the word selfish or Marbury etc. Those people have nothing to offer this website. They are attention seeking, short-sighted and really lack all knowledge of the last fifteen years. Damn it, you people are truly f@cked in the head. I have no time for your point of view, you lack wisdom, taste, style and love for the game… I’m from New Zealand. MichaelNZ you said he was an icon but you’ve been hating a lot,… f#ck you dude… don’t give my country a whack ass pov, you should know better, if I knew who you were, I’d ask Sid to kick your ass. He’d say “Hmmm, sweet as Andy”. Who’s Sid? There is only one Sid in NZ… A.I, come back the game will never be the same. You’ll always be my favourite player.

  • Big Marv Posted: Nov.27 at 4:48 am
    Allen changed the game, he’s 6”. That’s small in the land of giants. He always kept it real. ‘We’ as black people saw ourselves, baggy jeans, cornrows, ghetto upbringing, all the good and all the bad, the I don’t give a fuc$%^& attidude. I will not change, I will not lose, the me against the world attitude. We could realy relate to him. We saw ourselves, instead of the always perfect, clean hero’s like Michael Jordan. Thanx Allen Iverson.

  • thomas Posted: Nov.27 at 4:51 am
    damn tripledouble you are a tough guy
    this is exactly what people do not like about Allen Iverson. The fact that he cannot accept that others think differently… he has not been able to adapt to changes. Look at Kobe, who certainly has lost a step or two because of all that mileage on his legs; he used to be super athletic and could always rely on his quick first step and his vertical leap. but he has been able to adapt… this year he introduced us to a new post game that he is willing to utilize in order to keep efficient.
    The same can be said about Jordan. I remember when he came back from retirement (baseball!) people where complaining that he’s not dunking the way he used to… all he did was using his fade away jumper and clever head fakes etc.
    Or even Vince Carter… after Jumper’s knee gave him trouble for some time he became a very good jump shooter and threepoint shooter. In order to lengthen your career you have to adapt your game over time. And AI has never been able to do that.
    And what I also don’t get is why people cannot accept that AI did wrong the last couple of months/ years. YES, he used to be one of the best players in the league who has been able to bring a mediocre team to the finals, but that was years ago… the last couple of years his resume looks pretty terrible… deal with it and if you don’t learn to accept other people’s oppinions my friend (TripleDouble again) you will have a hard time just like AI is having right now…
    just my two cents though :)

  • DIMITRIS DIAMANTIDIS Posted: Nov.27 at 5:56 am
    @TripleDouble….:i’ve never been to New Zealand but i got great memories from this country(!!!!). For example,by completely humiliating their team in last years Olympic qualifing tournament we made it to Beijing!!!! The final score of 88-63 doesn’t really describe what actually took place on the floor cause we put some young guys in the end but in the most part it was a dunk clinic with Antonis Fotsis performing a breathtaking follow jam !!!! They have a fat guy, Pero Cameron that is really hilarious, i always enjoy seeing him.!! By the way: they must be one of the dirtiest basketball teams in the face of this world along with Puerto Rico. I excuse NZ being dirty cause the got no talent at all, Puerto Rico is inexcusable….

  • serevei Posted: Nov.27 at 8:23 am
    comments should be closed so that BETCATS wins

  • Jukai Posted: Nov.27 at 9:35 am
    Look, some of the Iverson love here is outrageous and lacking in actual substance, but this is AI’s retirement thread: it should be used to compliment the player, not bash him.
    As I said, love him or hate him, respect that he had the skills, respect that he was always honest, and respect that -even if it was his own way- he tried to win.
    And for chrissakes, Tavoris, 360, don’t turn this into an argument/debate. Just let the haters say what they want and let it rest. Christ.

  • doyouwantmore Posted: Nov.27 at 11:33 am
    Jukai: Good point, but what bugs me is that he is choosing to go out in a sad way that highlights his attitude problems. I’d rather be celebrating his game, but it kind of sucks as a basketball fan (not a superstar fan) to watch such an amazing talent and warrior waste our time rooting for him to finally do right and come out on top. Instead he just got rich. Now he’s going to go out like a sucker by choice, when a million people with the same talent would keep fighting, even humbly, to win a chip. Thanks AI, for the…youtube videos.

  • rikson Posted: Nov.27 at 11:36 am
    Anybody who thinks that AI brought the 76ers to the finals by himself, doesnt know Sh1t about bball… period!

  • rikson Posted: Nov.27 at 11:38 am
    TribleDouble: Youll rank very high in carlins department of bullsh1t with that post… geeez!

  • Baguma Posted: Nov.27 at 11:49 am
    I DON’T WANNA BE MICHAEL JORDAN, I DON’T WANNA BE MAGIC, LARRY BIRD OR ANY OF THOSE GUYS. WHEN MY CAREER IS OVER, I WANT TO GO HOME, LOOK IN THE MIRROR AND SAY, “I DID IT MY WAY”

  • Baguma Posted: Nov.27 at 11:50 am
    I DID IT MY WAY

  • 360vue Posted: Nov.27 at 11:56 am
    @DIMITRIS you are aware how obvious it is that you’re PANAGIOTIS? its quite insulting to everyones intelligence if you think it’s not blatantly obvious

  • Anton Posted: Nov.27 at 12:27 pm
    AI FREED!!!

  • Anton Posted: Nov.27 at 12:52 pm
    Over/under of SLAM’s new cover? AI sitting shirtless in a casino with hoes and money giving a finger to the L

  • Jay Posted: Nov.27 at 1:16 pm
    @Anton: That would be the best sports cover ever.

  • Russ Bengtson Posted: Nov.27 at 1:39 pm
    If no one but Memphis offered him a deal this summer (and for one year at the minimum, no less), why would teams consider signing him now after he flamed out so spectacularly there? And teams aren’t scared of his entourage, his ‘rows or his tattoos. This isn’t 1998 anymore. He spent his entire career making his bed. Hope he likes sleeping.

  • Russ Bengtson Posted: Nov.27 at 1:40 pm
    Also, I enjoyed Kenny Smith saying that he could easily come back if he just changed his attitude. Right. May as well ask him to change his height and age while you’re at it.

  • floe Posted: Nov.27 at 2:42 pm
    lou williams broke his jaw and i assume he’s out for the season. if this ain’t a divine intervention i dont know what is. why is the nba run by a bunch of morons? seriously.

  • DIMITRIS DIAMANTIDIS Posted: Nov.27 at 2:51 pm
    i was trying really hard to find somebody in the recent sports history all-over the world that achieved superstardome WITHOUT winning NOTHING, NOWHERE, NEVER and the only name that comes close to our cute shoe-seller is Anna Kournikova….

  • Anton Posted: Nov.27 at 2:54 pm
    Anna Kournikova is f*cking hot.

  • Russ Bengtson Posted: Nov.27 at 3:00 pm
    She would have won more tournaments, but the USTA was scared of her entourage.

  • DIMITRIS DIAMANTIDIS Posted: Nov.27 at 3:07 pm
    1) anyone who really believes that this was the last time we saw the “bball Kournikova” playing in the NBA clearly doesn’t know nothing about our cute shoe-seller(or has the mental capacity of tavoris,Eboy,etc). The guy will make anything for a few more dollars ,after signing with Memphis he made clear that he has no pride even to the blindest follower….wait a few more years when he will be broke(i don’t wish this, it is unfear for somebody that made to the league so much money but as you know “a ……. and his money are soon to be seperated”) and be ready for really sad/funny(depends how you look at it) things to happen….
    2)@360vue…..:are aware how “genious” you are…??? E-V-E-R-Y-B-O-D-Y knows that i am also FOTSIS/PAPALOUKAS/ZISIS/VASILOPOULOS etc. for the f……n simple reason that I HAVE R-E-P-E-A-T-E-D-L-Y STATED SO…(man, i read Hursty,TADone,Jukai,Betcats,etc and i am saying that it cannot get lower and then all of a sudden…..!!!!)

  • andrew Posted: Nov.27 at 3:09 pm
    i reckon,that it is up to phila.if they wanr allen,then they wil get him without a question

  • DIMITRIS DIAMANTIDIS Posted: Nov.27 at 3:19 pm
    on a more serious note: VON WAFER is officially in coaches Giannakis black-list since he plays 5 minutes on average and he usually makes mistake after mistake when he is on the floor…the thing is so sad that there are thoughts of leaving him out of the roster for Sundays big game against Euroleague perrenial champions Panathinaikos in favor of Patrick Beverley….i was a few weeks ago in a game of Olympiakos and everybody from the fans was trying to encourage Von (Olympiakos fans traditionally love showmen, from brazilian soccer players to bball artists like Roy Tarpley, Walter Berry, Zarko Paspalie,etc) but he was making travelling violations even on fast-breaks…..Josh seems to have adjusted though while Kleiza is clearly made to excel in European basketball.

  • Wayno Posted: Nov.27 at 3:31 pm
    Mr. Bengston speaks truth y’all…better listen up!

  • Russ Bengtson Posted: Nov.27 at 3:54 pm
    If the Knicks saying “nah, we got Duhon and Hughes, we’re good” doesn’t serve as a wake-up call, nothing ever will.

  • DIMITRIS DIAMANTIDIS Posted: Nov.27 at 4:28 pm
    Duhon>……..>Patrick Beverley>,……………………>”bball Kournikova”>..>me.

  • M Cho Posted: Nov.27 at 5:26 pm
    @Greek dude – whatever name you choose for yourself, if you think Iverson has no pride, you have absolutely no understanding of the man and should just stop running your mouth about him, period.

  • Robb Posted: Nov.27 at 5:33 pm
    You know? I don’t like AI, never did, but Foobar is right, the Sixers should sign Iverson so he can retire in Philadelphia with dignity. He deserves to have his number retired along with Barkley, Cheeks, Dr. J, Wilt, and all those guys. I really really really don’t like him, but man, he deserves that honor.

  • DIMITRIS DIAMANTIDIS Posted: Nov.27 at 5:38 pm
    @M Cho….: asked why is he considering to sign the “bball Kournikova” last summer(why he was asked such a question…? cause NOBODY wants A.I. for bball reasons in his team,since 2003, as Stein said some months ago ) the owner of Grizzlies Michael Heisley said :”Obviously I think he’d be a crowd pleaser in Memphis.” IF you are in A.I.’s position and you actually consider yourself an all-time great (!!!) would you EVER sign for them…..?????

  • DIMITRIS DIAMANTIDIS Posted: Nov.27 at 5:46 pm
    BREAKING NEWS….:worse comes to worse for Wafer, just a few hours ago Olympiakos decided that from now on will use VON only for Euroleague games in order to create a spot for Halperin in the greek league…..it is sad but Von is unable even to make it to our bench……the bright side of this is that a player that couldn’t make the starting line-up of a much weaker Euro team last year (Jennings-Roma) is mentioned in the MVP race….maybe next years NBA MVP candidate will be VON WAFER!!!!!!!!!!

  • rnibbs20 Posted: Nov.27 at 6:05 pm
    don’t retire ai you have always been my favorite player, your the person that inspired me to play the game, in my opinion you changed the nba from the corn rows, the head band and the sleeve, and brought excitement to the game, pound for pound your probably in the top ten of greatest basketball players of all time

  • DIMITRIS DIAMANTIDIS Posted: Nov.27 at 6:12 pm
    pound for pound, lil Penny is also in the top ten of greatest bball players!!!! (i never knew that you can measure bball greatness with kilograms….)

  • Still ballin Posted: Nov.27 at 6:12 pm
    Ai..just expect a lesser role on any team.because I know your still that good.you still will shine even if your coming of the bench.I know ur still the answer!!you said it your self that you already got all the individual awards.time to get that ring.and go out with a bang!! don’t let this be the end.I’m a true fan since 96!!

  • rnibbs20 Posted: Nov.27 at 8:55 pm
    i don’t even have lil penny in my top 20 allen iverson should start he just needs to go to a team that needs a dominant scorer like him, the dude is in his 30′s and he could probably still average 28-30 points a night

  • Joel O's Posted: Nov.27 at 8:57 pm
    @Teddy: My bad, I was being vague. He can definitely do what you said, and more. I meant that he sadly can’t do it “the way that (he) was accustomed to” – which I interpreted as being the alpha and omega of his team’s offense. And that’s fact, since no team is willing to make him the centerpiece – the way he was accustomed to. Can he easily pour in 20+ ppg coming off the bench as a killer sixth man for a contender? Heck yeah, I hope and pray that he will accept that role sooner.

  • Joel O's Posted: Nov.27 at 9:27 pm
    Problem is, where does he fit? I think the teams who think they are contenders – the Lakers, Cavs, Nuggets, Celtics, Magic, etc. – are pretty happy with what they have, and are confident that they can compete with what they have. So that leaves us with a second-tier team or another bottom feeder as a potential place for him to end up if he decides to make a comeback. With the way Memphis turned out, I don’t think even the league’s other minnows will readily sign him (eg. NY backed out). So that leaves a second-tier team on the cusp, like say… I don’t know, Miami? Dallas? Houston? NO? Toronto, even?

  • Joel O's Posted: Nov.27 at 9:34 pm
    And of that 2nd-tier bunch, I don’t see much hope there, too. Cuban, of all people, I’d think would be one of the few who would readily take a chance on AI and give him at least a super-sub role like he did with Van Exel, which worked out great. Unfortunately, Jason Terry already does that role perfectly. Toronto is out since I don’t think he fits the team’s direction. Miami has been discussed, and so has NO. Could Houston sign him and make things work? They made Artest work – an equally idiosyncratic ball-dominant inefficient scorer – and AI would immediately be their #1 weapon.

  • BETCATS Posted: Nov.27 at 9:40 pm
    looks like no Allen Iverson for the Bobcats. 3 straight wins. Indy, Toronto, and CLEVELAND

  • Joel O's Posted: Nov.27 at 9:45 pm
    Maybe he can sign for the LA Galaxy – I hear that’s a popular location for aging superstars…

  • Joel O's Posted: Nov.27 at 9:53 pm
    @BETCATS: Would he even fit there, do you think? Aside from the Larry Brown connection, I don’t see how Allen fits there. Because 1.) you guys already have a bunch of quick little scorers, and 2.) with Stephen Jackson, there’s already a bona fide scorer and creator on the team.

  • str8 from samoa Posted: Nov.27 at 10:00 pm
    he’ll be back!!!

  • BETCATS Posted: Nov.27 at 10:28 pm
    Joel: a Iverson – Jackson – Wallace – Diaw- Chandler lineup would be the result of signing Iverson. We would also have to trade DJ or Felton (most likely DJ though) to make it work. If we sign Felton to a long term and give him 25 minutes a night, everyone can be happpy. Iverson could get about 30 minutes, and would participate as part of a team orinted offense, as we would have no pure starting point guard but 3 point forwards. HOWEVER after tonight i just dont see it happening.

  • J Posted: Nov.27 at 11:04 pm
    BETCATS: as what i’m saying since… Charlotte is what i think the best fit for him. and also, i hate that you beat my cavs. i didn’t saw the game but damn..

  • Joel O's Posted: Nov.28 at 12:18 am
    @BETCATS: That’s some lineup… but yeah, looks like the best thing for Charlotte right now is to keep doing what they’re doing. 3 solid wins against teams which conventional wisdom would rate as better squads. The Bobcats really looked dynamic as heck against the one dimensional Raps earlier this week. Sigh.

  • Joe King Posted: Nov.28 at 1:07 am
    Bobcats are just getting their rythmm now that steph jax is on the roster. AI should play for the knicks or PLAY AS A TEAM

  • freezy23 Posted: Nov.28 at 3:13 am
    IVERSON BACK TO PHILLY!!!!WOOOOOO!!!

  • DIMITRIS DIAMANTIDIS Posted: Nov.28 at 4:40 am
    Iverson back to (elementary) school.

  • realism Posted: Nov.28 at 6:14 am
    All this talk of Warrior and nobody (even the fanboys) has bothered to call this chump a Winner. And we all know there can only be one Tru Warier

  • riseabove Posted: Nov.28 at 11:30 am
    I hate to see Iverson retire like this

  • tavoris Posted: Nov.28 at 4:22 pm
    Jukai-why u bringing up my name? Aint nobody trying to argue up here. In case u havent noticed, my comments are few & far between when idiots like you don’t address me personally. u & ur cohorts are pathetic & i’m interested (not really) where ur innate player-envy will manifest itself if this “retirement” sticks.

  • Dave Posted: Nov.28 at 5:23 pm
    I see “the Greek guy” is continuing his anti-Iverson barrage as usual. How’re those fifty Euroleague players going? They still better than AI in his prime?

  • alou Posted: Nov.28 at 5:57 pm
    ALRIGHT THE NETS SHOULD SIGN IVERSON TO A ONE YEAR DEAL. THEY ARE 0-15…THEY NEED SOME CHANGES AND IVERSON COULD GO IN THEREE AND COMPLEMENT HARRIS AND LOPEZ. ALSO, THE SIXERS LOST STARTING POINT GUARD LOU WILLIAMS AND HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO DEPTH AFTER THAT-THEYVE BEEN STARTING JRUEVHOLIDAY WHO AVERAGED LIKE 8 POINTS LAST YEAR IN COLLEGE. SIGN IVERSON- NO HOLIDAY- :) . SOMEBODYS GOTTA TAKE HIM…BECAUSE HE IS MY FAVORITE PLAYER AND HE CANT END IT LIKE THIS….HE JUST CAN NOT. I <3 IVERSON/ AI/ THE ANSWER OR WHATEVER YOU WANNA COOL HIM.

  • 360vue Posted: Nov.29 at 11:44 am
    serious considerations have been made this wknd in Phila, meetings were called whilst the team have gone on their road trip. good news for AI fans. still, if Jordan cant even sort out Brand for having an awful work ethic (that douche has picked up some awful habits after a handful of games in last two seasons) then I doubt he’s got the nuts to handle AI effeciently. im starting to dislike Jordan, he is a nice man and funny, but the players are disappointing more often than not and when its a collective its the coaches job to get them functioning properly, it is as if they havent even heard of D… its a disgrace. 40pts allowed in one Q?! WTF! And he has got them taking awful shot choices, and he has serious favouritism of some in terms of minutes and clearance for shots at ends of play, wasteful plays at that so we cant even score which is what this squad was born to do. now we’re bringin AI as a solution to rapidly disintegrating season (which is predominantly down to Jordan) when we’ve been progressing without him steadily, albeit slowly, for years

  • Russ Bengtson Posted: Nov.29 at 1:28 pm
    From what I understand, AI to Philly isn’t even close to a done deal yet.

  • 360vue Posted: Nov.29 at 2:50 pm
    @Russ They haven’t even talked to him; moves probably wouldn’t be initiated till midweek or after even if they decide to.. I meant ‘now we’re considering bring AI’ in my last post. However, considering they’re having an unscheduled and serious discussion amongst the top brass and everything the management have being saying this season about performances (lack of), needing a playmaker, needing a potent scorer, needing to get bums on seats (29th lowest attendances with 11k), the only stumbling block I can see in all this is AI himself (which could be likely), unless there is a serious dissenter who has not made desire known yet as sources sound positive in terms of them all in management having a serious attraction to the idea. Also, as it doesnt appear that rebuilding and developing a young core is a priority anymore with anyone in the franchise above Jordan, (maybe even Jordan himself considering his job could be on the line in in a few months at this rate) they all seem fussed on making the playoffs again and putting more green numbers on the financial sheet

  • B-zog Posted: Dec.4 at 3:12 pm
    A.I. A SIXER ONCE AGAIN!!! THE LEGEND RETURNS!!!

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