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Monday, November 9th, 2009 at 9:01 am  |  84 responses

Post Up: Two Weeks In

A weekend of blowouts causes the mind to wander.

by Holly MacKenzie/@stackmack

Want to know how spoiled we as a basketball-watching whole are?

Through the opening 12 minutes on Friday night, LeBron James logs 19 points, five assists and three rebounds.

He flirts with a triple-double at the Garden before finishing with 33 points, eight rebounds and nine assists and we say we thought he’d have a bigger game.

Really?

Now, let’s head out West.

Kobe Bryant. 31 years, 75 days old when he becomes the youngest player in NBA history to reach 24,000 career points. 40 points in three of his last five games. 26 points at the half last night against the Hornets. His Lakers at 6-1 despite Pau Gasol not playing yet this season and Andrew Bynum being out with a strained right elbow.

Post moves that would make your heart sing.

41 points, on zero three-pointers, and only three made free throws.

Yes, we are spoiled indeed.

While Melo started out his season strong, his Nuggets have died on the end of their road trip, getting blown out in Miami and then again in Atlanta. While we’re talking about blowouts, we’ve got to mention Golden State. Wow. Losing by an ungodly amount to the Clippers then falling to a Kings squad that was without Kevin Martin (who, by the way, is not a soft player) and led by rookie Tyreke Evans, no wonder everyone wants out. I just want Don Nelson to free Anthony Randolph.

There isn’t anything nice that I can say about the Knicks, so I won’t say anything at all. Okay, I’ll say this: the Garden deserves a professional basketball team.

And, um, if you’re a Hornets fan, I really feel for you. Losing huge to the Lakers, okay, the Raptors, ouch, but giving up 117 points to the New York Knicks?

Someone save Chris Paul.

I think it’s too late to save Byron Scott. It hurts to see Paul’s wizardry with the ball being wasted on clanged shots, defensive meltdowns and games that are lost before the third quarter is over. I really didn’t see this awful start for the Hornets, but I keep telling myself it is very early.

Then when I get really down thinking about the Hornets wasting Chris Paul’s talent, I think about the Suns and 35-year-old Steve Nash who is balllllllin, averaging 19 points per game to go with the league-leading 11 assists. Grant Hill averaging 13 points and eight rebounds per game. Jared Dudley who has become one of my favourite energy guys (thanks, in large part to his Twitter account), and Channing Frye for being a lovely surprise. The Suns are 6-1 and have taken down the Celtics at home. Who is to say they can’t keep it up?

The other surprise for me has been the Heat. Wow. Q Rich is like a new man out there. About 2/3rds of the man that he was at the end of last season, in fact. He’s slimmed down a LOT, dropping a ton of weight during the offseason and he looks reinvigorated, happy and comfortable playing with Dwyane Wade, Dorrell Wright –his”135″ team– and the rest of the Miami roster. I really thought the Heat would open the season floundering, but they look like they’ve had time to gel and everyone appears to be on the same page. Gotta give a shout out to Udonis Haslem for being a co-captain, embracing his move to the bench and also going out every night with the same intensity as before and still managing to wrangle in double-doubles for his team.

Now for the biggest game of the weekend, at least in my eyes. After losing in OT to the Lakers, the OKC Thunder finally got their big win against a “big” team, demolishing the Orlando Magic 102-74. Yes, Orlando was without Vince Carter and Ryan Anderson, but still. Huge win for the young Thunder. KD had 28 points while Russell Westbrook had 17 points and 10 assists and Thabo Sefolosha added 13 points and 10 rebounds. JJ Redick was 2-11 from the floor and 0-6 from beyond the arc. Dwight finished with 20 points and seven rebounds. Zero blocks, killing my chance at salvaging my fantasy matchup this week.

And as I’m writing this, ESPN publishes a report that Stephen Jackson’s agent has ripped Don Nelson. Wow. Check this one out, although I’m sure Marcel will have you hooked up w/ the latest. What a mess in the Bay. Someone rescue the Warriors. STAT.

Also, Brandon Jennings is back on Twitter. Yay to that. Here’s to hoping he sticks around and can enjoy it to interact with his friends, fans and fellow NBAers the way so many other players have.

I haven’t even mentioned that Chris Douglas-Roberts was diagnosed with H1N1 this weekend, but have no fear, he’s still fly. How do I know? He told us via his Twitter account.

And to end this on a more serious note, I’m thinking of Allen I. today. Whether his absence from the Grizzlies is a personal matter or a professional one, whether he is back tomorrow or fades into the NBA background, I will forever be thankful for the joy I’ve been given watching this special, special player excel at the game we both love.

We’ll have more of a standard format tomorrow, I just had too many thoughts swirling in my brain this evening/morning. Tell me yours, as we approach the two week mark.

As I was saying, blowouts or not, we’re spoiled. Make sure you’re enjoying this game, because there truly isn’t any better.

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  • Dashton

    I love this game but i hate the tarnish the situations like Jax/Golden State and A.I./Memphis bring to it.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    I’m as surprised as anyone about the Heat’s fast start. And Q is definitley the frontrunner for MIP of the year.

  • Aussie Boy

    Free Chris Paul… Free the warriors from nelson… and Please let the magic and the nuggets win again so they can join my others the heat and mavs!!!

  • http://www.outsidethenba.com Outside The NBA

    Loved, loved, LOVED that Thunder win. Beating the Magic like they did is impressive, no matter how short-handed they are. They’re the deepest team in the league, by far.

    Q-Rich hasn’t looked like this in… how many years? Five? Seven? Absolutely shocking. I added him to my fantasy team a few days ago.

  • Aussie Boy

    Magic, Heat, Nuggets, Mavericks- my teams are looking tidy at the moment….. Come back T-Mac

  • http://slamonline.com Brad Long

    As far as the Hornets go, When “Congo” gets a double double on you, you have problems.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    E: Q is doing nothing new, we’ve seen that from him! I REFUSE to consider guys like Q-Rich for MIPs. His skills didn’t improve, he just stopped being lazy and did some actual work in the off-season for a change. That shouldn’t be rewarded, he should be embarassed for almost eating himself out of the league last year. / I’m just sad for Chris Paul.

  • Shelton

    Kobe for MVP

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    B. Long, that’s freaking stupid and offensive. I’ve already said that but since when do we refer to people by their nationality? Is it more funny when the player comes from Africa? When was Manu called Argentina? When was Sasha called Slovenia?

  • http://myspace.com/brandnew Bryan

    Say it with me : Tyreke Evans is a 2. He has always been a 2 and will always be a 2. Is it a coincidence that when he moves off the ball he breaks out? I think not. The thunder looked great last night, I don’t care what anyone says no one has the natural knack for scoring that durant has in my book. He’s ridiculous.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    Bryan, honest question: what is a natural scorer? We often talk about Carmelo and KD as natural scorers but their scoring production is not off the charts. Carmelo in fact, he’s less of a scorer than D-Wade and Bron. KD is not doing anything we’ve never seen either. Bron was posting up 27 in his 2nd year, and 31 in his third. KD is actually BEHIND him in production. I just fail to see what’s special about the scoring of these two guys. Don’t get me wrong, they are SUPERB basketball players, but why do we act like their scoring sets them apart?

  • http://slamonline.com Brad Long

    Ummm, that’s what his teammates call him, Z.

  • http://www.ineedabluefont.com Hisham

    That Jawai guy from the T-wolves is the reincarnation of Oliver Miller mixed with a little bit of jahidi white and kelvin cato. I don’t know his real name but John Coffee like the drink only not spelled the same (but how IS it spelled then, John?)

  • http://www.ineedabluefont.com Hisham

    That Jawai guy from the T-wolves is the reincarnation of Oliver Miller mixed with a little bit of jahidi white and kelvin cato. I don’t know his real name but John Coffee “like the drink only not spelled the same” (but how IS it spelled then, John?) comes to mind.

  • http://myspace.com/brandnew Bryan

    The same way lebron and magic were “natural passers” they have a knack for finding the right teamates even though in lebrons case the assist numbers don’t show it. For once and for all its not all about ppg lebron has a hitch in his jumper he dunks over everyone great, but kevin durant has a perfect release and scores easily from everywhere on the floor. Asking the difference between a scorer like lebron and a scorer like kd is like asking the difference between a scorer like dwight howard and scorer like al jefferson they’re numbers might be similar but their ability is very far apart.

  • http://www.ineedabluefont.com Hisham

    sorry about the double post.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    If Tyreke Evans is a 2 then the Kings have an issue and his name is Kevin Martin. When he returns Tyreke will be plugged back in as a PG. Unless of course they decide to run a 3-guard lineup with Beno as the PG and Martin/Evans as the 2/3 combo. Either way, Tyreke is better than I thought.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Eboy: I’m quite sure Chris Kaman will have something to say about that MIP award.

  • http://myspace.com/brandnew Bryan

    Tad, I think reke is a strong enough rebounder and big enough to play some 3, basically he’s a wing not a pg.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Well, I actually think you are right Shia. Who made Reke a PG anyway? Didn’t Calipari mention that Evans was better for him in college once he started playing him off the ball?

  • http://www.ineedabluefont.com Hisham

    I know it’s harsh with the injury and also premature, but with the way that Tyreke is contributing right know and the fact that they’re 2-0 without him, wouldn’t it make sense to try to trade Kevin Martin and get a talented player for a spot that isn’t clogged up?

  • http://myspace.com/brandnew Bryan

    I don’t know whose idea it was but I was screaming at the tv on draft night “he’s not a f*cking point guard!”

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    ”lebron has a hitch in his jumper he dunks over everyone”. that’s really your assessment of lebron’s offensive repertoire? wow. just, wow. have you seen bron shoot the basketball since the beginning of the season? are you aware that he’s the best finisher in the league with his off hand? My guess is that natural scorer is another way of saying that the way he scores is more appealing to you. Because there is no way in hell that KD is a better scorer than LeBron.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    And I don’t know what the Al Jeff/Dwight comparison was about because Al Jeff is a clearly better scorer and the numbers show it. / B. Long: his teammates can’t be ignorant? it wouldn’t be that shocking.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Both Reke and Kevin are 6’7 so they have the height to play the 3. Besides, if you are the Kings you don’t trade away talent that is lacking on the roster. They won’t trade Kevin. If Reke can learn PG and Garcia comes back halthy, they will have a pretty potent scoring trio.

  • http://www.ineedabluefont.com Hisham

    I was just looking at the Kings’roster. Kenny Thomas is on there! was wondering what happened to him..

  • http://slamonline.com Brad Long

    Your right, Z. From now on I will refer to Manu as the Argentinan Assasin and Sasha as the Sloveian Shooter just to be fair.

  • http://myspace.com/brandnew Bryan

    Ok mr stat ill bite even though you’re clearly wrong but won’t admit it. Al has averaged more ppg than dwight 2 times in six years, dwight has a higher career scoring average shoots a higher percentage and is averaged 5 ppg more than al right now. Regardless of those numbers al is obviously the better scorer even if he goes the whole year behind dwight in ppg but if that happens you’re probably going to change your mind because all you know are stats you know nothing of the game itself.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    PG- Evans
    SG- Martin
    SF- Garcia
    PF- Jason Thompson
    C- Hawes
    When healthy, this isn’t a bad lineup. Really. Of course they need to figure out if Reke will be a PG.

  • http://nicekicks.com MeloMan2.0

    @Z: natural scorrer means they score alot easier, they have the ability o score from anywhere without burning tones of energy…. Lebron scores alot but theres a reason no alot of gm’s trust him to take the last shot. Majority of the time he barrels into the lane or crab dribbles. Melo and durant score in a way that seems effortless (and probably is). and they are alot more reliable down the stretch…. well, Melo atleast

  • http://www.sixers.com 360vue

    Z, chill out. Seriously, so what if he is referred to as Congo? If he doesn’t mind it, which considering his teammates call him it he obviously doesn’t, who are you to take offensive on his behalf? Its not stupid, it can be perfectly amicable and warmly intend. what you said is political correctness gone mad. i have a mate from barbados, i call him barbados, is that stupid and offensive? not to him it isnt, but if it causes offense to people like you, then a big, wholehearted “so f’in what?” Stop finding offense when there is none

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    MeloMan: actually all GMs would trust him to take the last shot. They just trust Kobe more than anyone else in the L. If your argument is that GMs would trust KD more than Bron for the last shot, then you’re wrong. The numbers show that Bron and Carmelo have been the best scorers in the L in crunch time for the past couple of years. But don’t let your instinct tell you otherwise: Bron is not clutch. / BTW, I love how Wade is ‘relentless’ going to the rim whereas Bron ‘barrels’ down the lane. People don’t root for Goliath, unh? / Bryan: Al Jeff averaged 23 ppg last year when he was healthy and he’s goign to get 25 ppg this year when he comes back. Dwight has not shown that he can score more that 20 ppg. That’s his ceiling as a scorer for now. Fail.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Is it even debatable that Al Jefferson is a better scorer than Dwight Howard? Al Jefferson is one of most skilled and strong bigs in the league. Just WATCH him play in the post and it should be pretty clear who’s more capable at scoring…

  • http://myspace.com/brandnew Bryan

    Z you’re just an idiot.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Seriously, the 2 best offensive centers in the league are Yao Ming (when healthy) and Al Jefferson (if he counts as center). I know, they’ve both been injured for a while, but we’ve seen Yao average 25 ppg and we’ve seen Al average 23 ppg. What’s there to debate?

  • http://myspace.com/brandnew Bryan

    Since I said that al jeff was a better scorer teddy I guess its not being debated except by mr stat nerd z who relies only on numbers to decide who is best at sports.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Co-sign Z about the nickname for Mbenga. That’s out of line.
    @ Bryan: Yeah, I’m glad we can all agree on the fact that Al Jeff > Dwight in scoring.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Brandon Roy scores 2 points and his team still beats the T-Wolves by over 20…

  • http://myspace.com/brandnew Bryan

    That’s the way z works he takes a statement you make and then spouts some “fact” that has nothing to do with what you said to begin with and says clever things like “fail” and calls himself smart. The reality is he’s almost never right and just comes off like a pretentious assh*le 99% of the time. Truthfully I don’t care if they ban me for this because it needed to be said , you’re a joke z you have little to no knowledge about basketball and I already know you’re response so save it ” luckily I don’t care about your ebeef or e respect bryan so fail” but you do care or else you wouldn’t be trying to prove a point with every statement you ever make on this website you want everyone to think you know what you’re talking about which is why you argue against points that no one has ever tried to make and its why you come back day after day and ask me stupid questions that you know I’m gonna answer in a way that disagrees with you.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    How about them Phoenix Suns? They’re playing great basketball right now. I’m really surprised at how they’ve stepped up this year. Nash and Hill are proving that they’re far from done now, and Amare Stoudemire is owning other defenses. Channing Frye might have been the most passed on/slept on young player in the NBA. Just who did the Knicks trade him for?

  • http://myspace.com/brandnew Bryan

    And for the record if dwight wasn’t playing with a bevy of talent on the wing I imagine he would be around 25 ppg but that still doesn’t mean he’s a better scorer than al jeff or pretty anybody else.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    A healthy Amare Stoudemire makes a HUGE difference.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Co-sign that, TAD. Its fun to watch him battle Kevin Garnett especially. Didn’t he drop lke 30 something on him his rookie year?
    Bryan and Z gots to chill; you’re both alright.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    Bryan, you tried to compare KD/Bron to Al Jeff/Dwight to show that guys with better numbers aren’t necessarily the best scorers or more ”natural” scorers. I pointed out that the comparison doesn’t make sense because Al Jeff is a better scorer by numbers AND skills. However, feel free to disregard what the initial point was (which hasn’t been refuted): Bron is a flat-out better scorer than KD. / Gut feelings and opinions can’t be discussed. Support your arguments by facts, whether they are numbers or not. / Somehow, it doesn’t bother me too much to have my hoops knowledge questioned by someone who describes Bron’s offense as ‘having an hitch on his jumper and dunking on everyone’. / Always a pleasure to disagree with you.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    Don’t know what to make of the Suns. Is it a hot start or are they for real? The interior defense is beyond suspect. However, I would have never guessed that Channing Frye could be a four 3s a game kind of guy. Wow.

  • http://myspace.com/brandnew Bryan

    Only every gm and broadcaster in the nba says kd and melo and kobe are the best three scorers in the league. But everyone in the world is wrong because bron averaged 30. Silly us.

  • http://realcavsfans.com Anton

    Where’s Slamadaday? Richard Jefferson over Greg Oden! Aahhh don’t do it!

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    Why are you still hating on Beno Udrih?

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the balla

    Good morning everyone. Because of the recent success of Kobe post moves. I thought I would post what someone wrote about Kobe on yahoo, towards him working with The Dream:
    I find it utterly facinating that Kobe would devote time to learn from The Dream. At the top of his game, coming off of winning a Championship he could have been all at the casinos in Vegas proclaiming himself the Best in the League( Pierce), he could have spent his summer being a roadie for Jay-Z showing up at concerts giving The Roc sign (James), or challenging other champions in sports he had no chance at winning (O’Neal). What he did is what he’s always done. Work to create or improve his next unguardable shot, go to shot. I’ve seen him do The Dream’s post moves a lot this season already and he’s getting pretty good too. Those move will prove effective as the season grows. I believe he focused on this in particular because with the Cavs picking up Shaq, he wanted to learn how to confuse and score againt him in the post. Hakeem used these moves against a younger Shaq and won a Championship doing so. In fact these are moves that work best for smaller players with agility as oppose to a big man or center.
    I recall some years back, after winning the first championship, Kobe worked all summer on the jump fake, which resulted in numerous points after defenders would jump to block and he’d wait for them to come down to jump into them, effectively making three point plays. The fade away jumper, the up and under and the move where he backs down, pivots and shoots. Each year he adds something new to the arsenol. He is the Best player in the NBA because of his devotion to the game and his respect for the those that came before him. Haters say what you want, but IF you like, err LOVE the game of basketball, you gotta love Kobe. If not, try hockey…

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the balla

    I seriously thought Bron was going to drop his first 60 point game against the Knick’s. but he seemed to not be trying… like he was just goofing around.

  • http://realcavsfans.com Anton

    Amare over KG!
    Iggy over Terrance Williams!
    Big Baby on weight watchers!

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    James, great re post about our main man KOBE!! Here is another re post:

    Speaking of the league’s “best,” last night Kobe became the youngest player to reach the 24,000 career point plateau. Something which shouldn’t surprise us but is always special to us fans. Even better, he passed up Allen Iverson on the all-time scoring list as well; something all us Lakers fans love to see. And while a lot of the milestones and accomplishments Kobe Bryant reaches doesn’t surprise us, he is bound to surpass Jerry West on the all-time scoring list as well. Jerry West – enough said.

    14. ……..JERRY WEST ……………. 25192
    15. ……..PATRICK EWING …………. 24815
    16. ……..KOBE BRYANT …………… 24027
    17. ……..ALLEN IVERSON …………. 24020

    A look at some advanced statistics — courtesy of HoopData.com, which (among many other things) breaks players shot attempts down by distance from the hoop (thanks to Hardwood Paroxysm’s Matt Moore for turning me onto this excellent resource) — helps us understand what’s happening here. Consider these numbers:

    In both 2006-07, and 2007-08, Bryant averaged 5.1 shots at the rim.
    In 2008-09, that number went down, as Bryant averaged only 4.4 shots from point blank range.
    Thus far in 2009-10, however, Bryant is averaging 9.0 shots at the rim.
    Such an increase in close shots is mind-blowing. Rather than taking fewer shots at the rim than last year, Bryant is taking twice as many! Certainly, this goes a long way towards explaining Kobe’s increased free throw attempts, as well. Meanwhile, this increased emphasis on inside work has been accompanied by decreased outside shooting — again, the complete opposite of what was expected from him coming into this season.

    THE BEST!!!

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    Kobe is probably the hardest working superstar in the league. But I don’t know why people make the assumption that other stars don’t work hard because you see them at an awards show. That’s ridiculous, there are 24 hours in a day. A maniac could only train for like 5-6 hours a day at maximum intensity. LeBron James works out every single day with Chris Jent, even when he is abroad on promotional tours. Every. Single. Day. His jumper has never looked this good, he gave the Knicks an easy 33 on jumpers alone. Dwyane Wade spent the summer with Tim Grover in Chicago. Carmelo is always in the gym Ivan Radin. Yes, Kobe works his butt off and should be applauded for that. But to say that superstars who make appearances don’t work on their games is too easy.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    James, wouldn’t you have said that he was padding his stats if he had been gunning in a game which was over after the 1st quarter? Because that’s what people said when he put up 50 the last time.

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the balla

    Oh I know Z. I am not saying by any means that they don’t work, I know they do. I know Bron works crazy hard, and his jumper does look alot better. Just throwing out my Kobe love for the day. Had to be done. Anyways. Time to get my brace for my knee … tore the ACL and now have to wear a brace for a year : S!! Peace out ladies!!!

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the balla

    @Z … naw I said he was padding when Ben Wallace is going for a rebound and James holding him down by the waist to get it before his teammate lol.

  • reidar

    Still early, but really nice to see that Nashs MVP seasons just can be credited to the D´Antoni system as someone seems believe…

  • reidar

    can NOT it was supposed that to say f course:)

  • reidar

    can NOT it was supposed that to say of course:)

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    Psh, we all know LeBron was born 6-9 and 250. (It was a Caesarian.)

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    People are testy….
    Durant scores in a way many people find more “beautiful” than Lebron. But, Lebron gets buckets. And right now he gets buckets better than Durant. Wade, Melo and Kobe do as well.
    I’m with Z. Calling Mbenga “Congo” is rude, even if that’s what his teammates call him. And just becasue his teammates call him something doesn’t mean everybody else gets to do it as well. I don’t understand why Kobe, who I believe gave him that nickname, decided that was the thing to do. Hell, given Mbenga’s history, his imprisonment at the hands of the regime that changed he name of the country, I doubt he really appreciates being called “Congo,” but I don’t know. The point is, we don’t know Mbenga, and we don’t need to be calling him a pejorative nickname used by his teammates.
    Hell, they already call the man D.J., you would think that would be nickname enough.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Reidar
    So, Alvin Gentry has changed the system in Phoenix? Who knew? I could have sworn the players staged a mutiny against Terry Porter until they could get Alvin Gentry the job so that he could put back in the same system that D’Antoni ran. But, I guess I was wrong.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    This has been an engrossing Monday Post-Up comment section.

  • reidar

    Only saying there was never a real conclucion to who the genius in PHX was, Nash or D´Antoni. Perhaps a little bit of both? Still feel that Nash never got enough cred for the success, EVEN THOUGH he won two MVPs. Just look at Jennings comment in of the other sections….

    So I feel Nash succeding and making unknown/lesser players succeding yet again under another coach redeems him in a way.

  • Tweaks

    Dude’s name is already ”Dj Banger” ..i mean give the man a break…..he’s cool.

  • http://www.stonesthrow.com/madlib Michael NZ

    Before the season started I had the Hornets to finish below .500. They have three players worth damn… and the rest? Um, thats a terrible, terrible roster. Worst wings in the league. As for the Suns… honestly? Not surprised. Not surprised at all. Big asterisk on them though: I’ll put good money on their second half record being a lot worse than their first half. Age. Fatigue. Injuries.
    As for Tyreke Evans… wasn’t he mentored by Penny for a while there at Memphis? There’s some early career arc similarities too: Start out as a one, eventually move to SG (this season? Next season?). Love a SG with point guard skills. Just keep those knees healthy ‘Reke.
    Laughed out loud at your 1.55 comment Russ.

  • http://www.stonesthrow.com/madlib Michael NZ

    By the way, Holly, like the ‘thoughts’ style more anyway.

  • riggs

    cant be slam without the increasingly weird man crush some of yall have on kobe.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Reidar
    As is well known around these parts, I’ve always felt Nash got more than his fair share of love for Phoenix’s success. I mean, the cat won two MVPs, became beloved across the league and is a media darling. All without ever going to the Finals. I don’t know how much more love would be enough.
    That Phoenix team was perfect for D’Antoni’s system to reach its zenith, and D’Antoni’s system was perfect for those players to reach their apex. Gentry is basically running the same thing. However, Gentry is not some “no-name” coach. He has previous fairly successful stints in Detroit and with the Clippers. I mean, he’s not a great coach, but he’s no random guy off the street.

  • Jacqueline Mitchell

    After all these years, Kobe Bryant still got it goin’ on!!!

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    And the Suns will still fizzle out in the first round. Oh…..that’s not what Allen was going for? Sorry.

  • j4zzm4n

    great result for the thunder it’s been a long time coming. really disappointed in the hornets this is just abysmal how can chris paul be stuck on a grossly underachieving team that does not match his sizeable talents?

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    @James: Take care of that knee, man. I had that same injury some time back, while messing up my meniscus and MCL at the same time. Good luck rehabbing!

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    The New York Times had a story about Jeremy Tyler recently that apparently said dude is having serious problems in Israel.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    On or off the court?

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    Just read the article. How about everything lol. I can’t believe that they let him go by himself. Jennings had his mother and little brother with him the whole time. No fundamentals + no work ethic + inflated sense of game + gold-digging entourage + no support + already talking about forming a power couple with a pseudo-celeb (eazy-e’s daughter) + already talking about reeking in 200 M from basketball when it’s all said and done + a no nonsense coach = DISASTER. The kid didn’t even know that he needed a passport to go to Israel. Oh my.

  • reidar

    Yeah, I see your point Allen. Especially not reaching the Finals is major downside to his career. and he has gotten his fair share of the national spotlight.

    However, If you ask the more hardcore hoops fans, such as on this blog, my impression (I might be wrong) is that his standing is lower… He just barely cracked the Slamonline top 50 all-time. No MVP awards have gotten as much heat and criticism as his on this blog. Point is, I still feel that he has a point to prove and critics to silence. Playing so well and making others play so well under a new coach, regardless of system, contributes to this imo.

  • http://fjdsfl.com Jukai

    Man, SO much to say about this even though no one will read it because they’re all gonna go to tomorrow’s post-up..
    Watching Z and Bryan argue is hysterical. It’s like watching someone argue into a mirror. Both ignore each others points like wild fire and only focus on the things each ignored. Craaazzzy.
    Chris Kaman easily most improved player.
    Lebron James is still a better scorer than KD. KD can score in a more variety of ways, but Lebron is a better scorer. Just like Wilt was a better scorer than Hakeem, even though Hakeem had a greater arsenal of moves. I’ve actually been a bit disappointed with KD this season.. his scoring and percentages are down across the chart. Not good stuff.
    I agree with Reidar but only slightly. I feel that Nash gets underrated BECAUSE of his overratedness… y’know? People hate on Nash because he got an MVP undeserving, and when they hate, they underrated him for his past of being overrated. Nash just had his seventh twenty assist game.
    To put that into perspective, Jason Kidd has had two. Kevin Johnson had four. Bob Cousy had 2. Walt Fraizer and Gary Payton don’t have any.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    How many 20 assist games did Nash have before coming to Phoenix?

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    @Eboy: QRich = most improved? He’s always been able to play like that. Frye gets the MIP award; he’s reinvented his game with that 3pt range shot now. THATS improvement. Plus Suns won’t fizzle out in the first round, if we did the “the playoffs started today” debate, they could effectively get all the way to the WCF against the Lakeshow. Talk about hating. ;)

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    @jaemstheBalla: Hope you get your quick recovery on man. I strained my medial ligament and that was bad enough. Are you getting an operation? An ACL tear isn’t good for anytime too long without serious attention.

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    “It is not necesssary to understand things in order to argue about them.”

    - Caron de Beaumarchais

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    @ Allenp: How many points per game did Hedo Turkoglu average in Sacremento? A player naturally improves; some improve later than others. Switching teams always helps give players fresh starts. If a player fits into a specific system, that doesn’t mean they are overrated; it just means they have finally found their niche. If they still play well, they’re still great players. Steve Nash is a great player and he’s one of the best point guards in the league at running his type of system. Why hasn’t Chris Duhon had an All-Star season under D’Antoni?

  • Congolese dude

    For the record, Mbenga nickname is “Congo Cash”.
    I understand Z… just for this part!
    I had a friend who went to Savannah high, and they called him Belgium waffle or nigga belgium…
    But Congo Cash especially when Mbenga told the Belgian press that Kobe gave him this nickname because “everytime he gave him the ball it’s money” THOUGH I REALLY DOUBT THAT LOL

    I kinda understand why Bryan get frustrated thouhgh… Carmelo, KD move or jumper are examples that coach will use to teach those moves cuz they have that good form. But that doesn’t mean they’re better scorer than Bron. Cuz BTW i saw the Knicks game n Bron was hitting every kinda shot, deep 3, fadeaway jumper with so much ease. Look Ray Allen & Michael Redd jumper… both wet Redd shooting form is unorthodox AND ITS NOT BECAUSE HE’S A LEFTY!!!!

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