November 9, 2009 9:00 am  |  48 Comments

Stephen Jackson vs Don Nelson: Round 37


by Marcel Mutoni / @marcel_mutoni

Prior to the start of the season, a disgruntled Stephen Jackson made it perfectly clear that nothing would make him happier than playing for a team other than Golden State — one of Jackson’s prefered destination choices, God knows why, was New York.

The Warriors’ inability to find the forward a new home — coupled with the Warriors’ horrific start this year — has upset the Jackson camp so much, that they’ve basically began to wage war against head coach Don Nelson.

Here’s Mark Stevens, Jackson’s agent on the offensive, via ESPN:

“No one trusts Don Nelson,” Stevens said. “When Nelson was in Milwaukee, Wayne Embry trusted him and brought him in, and he betrayed Embry. In Dallas, Mark Cuban took damn good care of him and his son [Donnie Nelson Jr.], and he betrayed Cuban. In Golden State, Chris Mullin hired him and trusted him and Nelson backstabbed him by reaching out to president Robert Rowell and blaming Mullin for everything that was going wrong with the Warriors.”

“I’m disgusted with the quality of Nelson’s coaching and with the lack of trust his players have in him,” he said. “Nelson is the winningest coach in NBA history to never have coached in the NBA Finals, let alone won a championship. Yet he keeps getting jobs despite being 69 years old…I just want him out of there now,” Stevens said. “It doesn’t matter where. At this stage, something has to be done. It can’t get any worse.”

Things are really bad in Warriors-land; Corey Maggette says the team is in chaos, and Jackson called last night’s loss to the woeful Kings “another beat-down.”

The Jackson camp may have to stick around quite a while longer. After all, what NBA front-office would want to deal with this type of headache? To say nothing of the $35 million Stephen is owed over the next four seasons.

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  • Hoodsnake Posted: Nov.9 at 9:07 am
    First. Trade him to the Cavs

  • rog123 Posted: Nov.9 at 9:11 am
    I’m with hoodsnake

  • Vic De Zen Posted: Nov.9 at 9:26 am
    Is this even the LEAST bit surprising? Nellie is just going through the motions at this point. He’s the Tim Thomas of coaching.

  • T Money Posted: Nov.9 at 9:47 am
    Wow, he really enjoys giving money to the league

  • Z Posted: Nov.9 at 9:50 am
    I don’t know why people talk about his contract all the time. 8 mil per for a 20-5-5 versatile wing who can knock down the open 3 and plays tough. That sounds about right to me. There are PLENTY of teams that are monitoring this situation. Talent trumps everything, even character.

  • Ben Osborne Posted: Nov.9 at 9:52 am
    “I’m disgusted with the quality of Nelson’s coaching.” Couldn’t agree more.

  • Coach Walt Posted: Nov.9 at 10:03 am
    Dantoni is Nelson as well…so why would he want to go to New York? They loved his system last year, and the year prior. They lack a leader on the floor…Don Nelson has nothing to do with them playing Defense, he may not gripe about it, but hey know what they have to do on the court to be successful.. Once guys get millions they seem to forget fundamentals of the game.

  • Z Posted: Nov.9 at 10:16 am
    We always talk about players that don’t have winning as their top priority. What about coaches? Don Nelson obviously doesn’t give an eff about winning in the NBA. Not when he’s putting 6-3 guys at the 3. Not when there’s not one point guard on the roster. Not when he starts 4 shooting guards and bring 2 more off the bench. Why does he get a pass? Because he’s a good quote à la George Karl?

  • cramzy Posted: Nov.9 at 10:19 am
    Why the kings gotta be woeful? They 3-4, 2-0 with Tyreke at the 2 guard…im jus sayin’..oh yeah it’s horrible whats going in in Gstate. Too much talent to be that bad.

  • underdog Posted: Nov.9 at 10:20 am
    I think he wants to go to NYC, because of his buddy Al Harrington.

  • ENDS Posted: Nov.9 at 10:56 am
    Y’all seriously gonna blame Nellie for this?! Cap Jack been a cancer since he signed his contract

  • ENDS Posted: Nov.9 at 11:04 am
    Agents are slimebags. Just rehashing old ish for personal gain. Jax u got 30 mil to play ball; play ball and shut the hell up. If u didn’t wanna be there u shouldnt have re-upped

  • davidR Posted: Nov.9 at 11:06 am
    how can you not blame nellie for this? last i heard, jack was far from being a cancer according to teammates

  • CDef28 Posted: Nov.9 at 11:07 am
    Team up Jackson with Chris Paul.

  • TADOne Posted: Nov.9 at 11:25 am
    Someone should go old school on Don Nelson and choke him PJ Carlesimo style.

  • solito Posted: Nov.9 at 11:32 am
    I think it is funny, that so many former players are hired as GM’s and front office peronal. It is like making the Help Desk guy CEO of the company: of cours they know the business, but can they hanle it? For each Danny Ainge and Danny Ferry, there are countless busts in management positions.
    With a poor judgement in regards to bball skills and soft skills, naturally they will hire a coach like Nelson, and keep players like Elis and Jackson in leading rolls. You wouldn’t see these guys mouth off in San Antonio, LA, or Salt Lake… because they are kept in line!

  • ab_40 Posted: Nov.9 at 11:41 am
    TAD I think Nelson has his contacts and whichever player does that will never be heard off again. If and when jerry sloan leaves utah he’s gonna bump heads with everybody on the roster as well. and GS isn’t all that talented they have glarring holes, a lot of skinny big guys and not a single pass first player. Don Nelson isn’t drafting and trading players… the GM is and the coach has to work something out with the players that he has. Don Nelson is great at developing players and giving them a shot on the big stage like a morrow for example he wouldn’t get no shot at a spot in a rotation and don’t even talk about starting. Coach Nelson gives player chances and if they excel they’ll keep on playing if they don’t… well the bench is always open. He’s the kind of coach that apprecieates creativiy but at the end of the day wants you to do what he says he does. If you’re going to be in the playoffs as a player you’ll do just that. If you’re strating the season with losses to teams like the kings there’s gonna be a lot of doubt in your players group.

  • Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Nov.9 at 11:43 am
    Jax to Mavericks would be AWESOME.

  • TADOne Posted: Nov.9 at 11:44 am
    ab_40: That’s great and all but it sounds like Nellie would be better suited with a coaching job in the NBDL at this point in his career.

  • tavoris Posted: Nov.9 at 11:46 am
    How this guy is still coaching is beyond me. Sure, he drafted Dirk & traded for Nash, but both players have proved to be BETTER when not playing for Nelson. The last few years in Golden State have been a complete joke. All gimmicks and no substance.

  • NUPE Posted: Nov.9 at 12:01 pm
    May sound crazy but I think cap jax wants to go to NYC cause they have a decent shot at a ring next year. Considering his contract is not that significant, NY will likely have enough space to bring in 1 or 2 stars next year. They want Lebron but my guess is they will get Bosh + one other really good player. Bosh + Jax + ____ = playoffs at least. If Jax goes to Clevleand this year, the question if Bron stays or not would is still up in the air (although I think Bron stays). If I were an all-star calliber player on a crap team, I’d think about NY too cause you know they are making moves next year.

  • Shem Posted: Nov.9 at 12:16 pm
    Don Nelson is a great coach but honestly even if the warriors do make the playoffs they will play the lakers… kobe can post curry, artest can post azubuike, pau gasol can post jackson. They are just too small, kobe has 6 inches, artest has 3 and pau has 4 thats a lot. They should just trade jackson, and start over. They have a lot of young talent just no chemistry and the style of play doesnt win unless you play D. The only run and gun team thats ever been successful is teh 80’s lakers and they played D with a lot of lengthy players like todays lakers

  • JB Posted: Nov.9 at 12:34 pm
    I’m pretty sure the agent is wrong. Robert Rowell, as documented by tons of sources, nipped the baron extension in the bud. Not Nellie. Though every other gripe about NEllie more than makes up for it and is on point.

  • Russ Bengtson Posted: Nov.9 at 1:46 pm
    This is one of those situations where everyone involved looks terrible.

  • Russ Bengtson Posted: Nov.9 at 1:47 pm
    Although the Warriors organization has to take most of the blame for unnecessarily extending both Nellie AND Jax.

  • Allenp Posted: Nov.9 at 2:12 pm
    I don’t understand why they spent all that money on certain players but not on other players.
    Why would this organization think that Nelson and Jackson would be good soldiers throughout rebuilding? Neither of them has ever shown that bent.

  • tavoris Posted: Nov.9 at 2:54 pm
    Allenp, it’s as if Nellie has dirt on EVERY exec in the league…the way that people just turn their heads at his ineptitude.

  • Russ Bengtson Posted: Nov.9 at 3:03 pm
    Or it’s as if Nellie has over a thousand wins in the NBA and led the Warriors to one of the most stunning playoff upsets ever just two seasons ago. One of the two. Yes, he’s made some questionable decisions involving playing time, but it’s not like the Warriors have a history of being a well-run organization on any level.

  • JB Posted: Nov.9 at 3:51 pm
    Exactly, Russ.
    I’m not sure where you’re from Allenp, but I’m in the middle of all of this.
    It’s a pathetically run franchise. Seriously.
    Cohan is now the laughingstock of the League by easily jumping over Sterling and Dolan.
    Bobby Rowell is easily a horrible GM and Vice President of Operations type guy who makes MJ look like Jerry West in the office.
    Larry Riley is Nellie’s crony.
    I mean, I could keep going and going.
    Go back to the all star game held in Oakland and watch Cohan get booed off the court.
    They did Mully dirty but making him the goat. Hell we can’t even retire our former good players jersey’s because Cohan is so cheap.
    It was appalling to hear Rowell claim he’s a “business buy” during a season ticket holder call and sign Jackson to an unneeded extension because he was flexing muscle.
    Too much to be stated.

  • Allenp Posted: Nov.9 at 4:04 pm
    Russ
    I don’t know the Warriors history, but I know that Nellie has had the same results at EVERY stop in his long career. Every stop.
    He enthralls people with small ball, has some surprising success, but never actually gets to the Finals, and then he turns sour and starts feuding with management. I mean, the dude feuded with Mark Cuban and his own damn son!
    Apparently Nellie is proof that talent and results trump “character” when it comes to coaches as well as players.

  • Allenp Posted: Nov.9 at 4:05 pm
    JB
    I thought they got rid of Mullin because he and Nelson were feuding and Nelson had the owner’s ear?

  • JB Posted: Nov.9 at 4:08 pm
    I’m not sure exactly what Nellie did other than not do enough to save Mully from being the scape goat. That area is murky at best.
    However, it’s been pretty well documented that Rowell was going to flex power and basically move Mully on out. Rowell is just a douche. Mully didn’t want to re-up Jax (gee, go figure) and then Jax went to Rowell mano y mano. That got Rowell’s head all big and full of self esteem. Seriously, re-reading the events of the past two summers is sickening.

  • Jacqueline Mitchell Posted: Nov.9 at 4:12 pm
    Will they please stop with all this petty crap?? Everyone is starting to look bad.

  • tavoris Posted: Nov.9 at 4:31 pm
    they should just play Anthony Randolph. Everyone plays better-and looks happier-when he’s out there hiding their mistakes.

  • Jake Posted: Nov.9 at 4:48 pm
    How about they trade him to a playoff team in exchange for some future picks and cash?This is going to end badly either way.

  • JB Posted: Nov.9 at 4:56 pm
    Anthony Randolph is probably a casualty of all the crazy that has gone on, but fact is, he’s sucked when given the chance. He’s pressing, and yes, this is mostly Nellie’s fault. However, he’s going against backups.
    Look at last night at the end of the 3rd qtr with .4.
    That’s all you need to summarize the Warriors season.

  • Dacre Posted: Nov.9 at 5:48 pm
    someone’s sleeping with someone.

  • David Curran Posted: Nov.9 at 7:23 pm
    Everyone knows the Cavs will make changes before the deadline. Even though I think it’s mostly Mike Brown’s fault, but the Cavs are stacked right now and Jackson will only give them another long wingwan to join LeBron and co. Can they afford him doh?

  • Mack Posted: Nov.9 at 7:42 pm
    Does Don Nelson believe defense is unimportant or something? Maybe the players should take initiative and f*cking play some D.

  • JohnnyJuliano.com Posted: Nov.9 at 8:27 pm
    cavaliers or bust

  • Z Posted: Nov.9 at 8:39 pm
    David, it depends on how valuable they think Z is. I would do that trade yesterday.

  • Hursty Posted: Nov.9 at 11:23 pm
    However this all turns out, it’s another dirty mark on the Warriors organisation.
    Everyone involved is going to come out scarred in the public’s/media’s image.
    Well, almost everyone. Some people are immune, like Kobe Bryant.

  • Hursty Posted: Nov.9 at 11:28 pm
    Sh*t, what Russ said.

  • The Philosopher Posted: Nov.10 at 1:29 am
    Years ago Tim Hardaway said that he could see in Nelson’s eyes that he didn’t want to coach anymore. The eyes never lie if one knows what they are looking for.

  • Giggler Posted: Nov.10 at 1:30 am
    Jackson should stay where he is and collect his money. Nellie should go to the Cavs.

  • Jackie Moon Posted: Nov.10 at 2:30 am
    I believe.

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  • Tmw Posted: Nov.12 at 3:52 pm
    this is getting old

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