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Tuesday, November 10th, 2009 at 9:15 am  |  100 responses

The Post Up: Nasty Nash

Ginobili is so over your bat jokes.

by Holly MacKenzie/@stackmack

Another day another W for the Phoenix Suns.

Also another 20-point, 20-assist performance from Steve Nash.

It’s like they heard about the praise we were giving them in here or something. I didn’t get to catch the game because Canada decided to show an old Raptors game instead –yeah, wasn’t so psyched about that decision– but the boxscore and tweets about the game told a pretty picture. Hitting 6-for-8 from beyond the arc for J-Rich to finish with 29 points, Jared Dudley coming off of the bench and adding 18, Amare Stoudemire with 17 points and of course, the ridiculous 21-point, 20-assist performance from Nash that came on just nine field goal attempts. With 32 team assists on 41 made field goals, a 7-1 start has the Suns looking really good as they lead the NBA with 109.7 points per game and have Leandro Barbosa back. It’s good to love the Suns.

Because this is the Post Up and most of you will get this, I’m interrupting the flow of this post to mention, Azubuike’s 31 points. Also, the Warriors had 111 points through three quarters. I know the Wolves are shorthanded and all, but damn.

The Jazz were in New York to face the Knicks and controlled the game early on until the fourth when New York came blazing back, outscoring Utah 27-19 and giving the Jazz a scare, before falling just short, 95-93. With the loss the Knicks fell to 1-7. Wilson Chandler had 15 points and 10 boards for New York while Toney Douglas scored 21 off of the bench. Deron Williams had an off-night from the floor, connecting on just 2-for-10 field goal attempts to finish with five points, but he dished 16 assists for his squad as Andrei Kirilenko and Carlos Boozer each scored 23 points, with Boozer also grabbing 14 rebounds. Mehmet Okur had a double-double with 18 and 12 and my undrafted Marquette rookie, Wesley Matthews got 18 minutes in the game, scoring six points.

The Raptors were in San Antonio to face a Tony Parker-less Spurs team and then found out before the game that SA would also be without Tim Duncan. Should have been an easy game for them to steal after getting smoked in Dallas, right? Not quite. Toronto shot 59% for the game, while giving up 48% shooting to the Spurs but still lost, 131-124 as Manu Ginobili was all over the place, finishing with 36 points and eight assists on 8-15 shooting. The Raps got burned badly on the boards, with SA outrebounding them 41-29, including 16-5 on the offensive glass. After letting the Spurs hit a couple beyond the arc, they couldn’t miss, finishing 14-28 from deep. Despite the absence of Parker and Duncan, San Antonio’s efficiency was impressive, with 28 assists to just six turnovers for the entire game. With the loss the Raptors wasted another 32-point, 10-rebound effort from Chris Bosh.

Bosh also hit a three on the night, his sixth make in six attempts this season.

Ugly moment of that game: Matt Bonner not only hit 4-for-8 three-pointers, he also blew by the Raptor “defense” to get to the hoop with the quickness. Really. I’m not kidding. That was a cringe worthy moment.

Oh, quick note: I’ve got to do the Canadian spellings for “defence” and “offence” in my blog over at The Score and I’ve just gotten it ingrained into my head. Of course, now I’ve got to flip it back to “defense” and “offense” over here and everywhere else I write. #theperilsofbeingcanadian

Chris Paul rolled his ankle in the first half of the Hornets game against the Clippers. That made me feel sick for real. Especially the replay. He came back in the third though, and appeared to be fine while Devin Brown had the game of his life. Or, what felt like it, finishing with 25 points as CP3 had 24 points to go with 10 assists and three steals.

And the T-Wolves? Oh Myles. I’m glad this one wasn’t in Minnesota. Falling behind by 19 to the Warriors at the half, giving up 74 points in 24 minutes and then going down by 30 before the midway point of the third? It was ugly, ugly, ugly for Minny in the Bay as the Warriors finished on top, 146-105. Yes, 146.

Scrap basketball (perhaps the only time I will ever say that), I’d just like to see how halftime sessions work for the Warriors. With the players against Nellie, and Nellie against the world –or at the very least, determined to be against us loyal, kind and compassionate Anthony Randolph fantasy owners– the coach’s speech has got to be something night in and night out. Dysfunctional.

Randolph, though, he played 30 minutes last night –finally!– and finished with 23 points, seven boards, three steals and three blocks. Anthony Morrow scored 20 and shot 5-for-6 from deep.

Did you catch the shot of Ricky Davis in this month’s SLAM? I almost can’t believe he’s still around, cashing a paycheque and playing basketball. As the player who was the topic of the story that made me commit my life to being a writer (Much love to you, Scoop J!), Ricky’s got a special place in my basketball history.

One more thing: I’m still not used to Ramon Session in a Wolves uni. That trip anyone else out?

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  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    1ST! Thats in honour of the Suns and my boy NASHTY. Who’s old?

  • Ken

    How many 20 assist games has Nash had in his career? Loving that the Suns are back to having fun and scoring again.

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    Where’s our “GREG ODEN WATCH” Holly? Don’t tell me we’ve given him the benefit of the doubt for 2 weeks solid now!?

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    Yes Ramon Sessions should have been a Knick this year. But if Donnie Walsh didn’t want J BUG (Jennings) why would he even look?…

    Certainly a man who does not know the meaning of “wanting cake and eating it too”.

  • http://myspace.com/brandnew Bryan

    Nash 4 mvp.

  • Tom

    So with the Knicks stinking it up and Nash still getting the Suns W’s, is it safe to say now that it was Nash who made D’antoni’s system successful, and not the other way around?

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    I am so enjoying the re-emergence of J-Rich. He’s had two incredible shooting performances in less than a week. And looks so damn confident out there. Nash throws passes that are plain astonishing at times, being ambidextrous is a lovely thing in B-Ball. Lucky bastard.

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    @ Ken: Nash has had 2 20+ assist nights this season so far. he also had the last 20+ assist night, back in 2006. How many has he had in total? I believe he has had 6, 20+ assist games during his career. May I suggest an early MVP candidate?…

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    …Kobe.

  • http://www.outsidethenba.com Outside The NBA

    I’m still pissed about that Suns game not being shown in Canada. 20-20!

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    @Tom: It’s a good question. I wouldn’t say out of hand that Nash made D’ANtoni’s system what it is. The strongest reason I can give you for that, is this: D’Anotoni doesn’t have a PG in a Knick uniform that can run the offense that he has in place (I somehow get the feeling that if you switched D’Antoni and Don Nelson and altered nothing else, BOTH teams would benefit).

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    A 2ND POINT REGARDING THE SUNS ACTIVITY: The real key to it all is that the entire team are on the same page, 99%. Jason Richardson is having a breakout season I think. The last guy that looked THAT comfortable shooting the ball was Glen Rice!

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    Anyone check out Manu’s breakout game today?! “Batman” saved Gotham!

  • Hoodsnake

    He’s Canadian but Nash was actually born on my home soil South Africa – gotta give props. And i think Americans call it ‘paycheck’

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    The Warriors are the Jekyll and Hyde’s of the NBA.

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    I prefer to call Manu “the bat whisperer” from now on. Ha!

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    Darksaber at the buzzer!!

  • http://www.bluefont.com Hisham

    Just got my 15th anniversary Slam in the mail yesterday. Robert Horry is on both Slamups! I’m probably not the first one to notice, but that’s gotta be as unintentional as it is unique right?

  • http://www.bluefont.com Hisham

    I don’t know what’s going on in Phoenix. Don’t get it at all. Also, Lang’s season preview is looking shot already

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    @Hisham. Some would say its a case of other teams caught napping. The home teams are “losing” the games as opposed to the Suns “winning”. I would just like to think it’s as simple as; they are clearly playing the way that they find the most comfortable with the most ideal roster at present. Don’t be fooled though, the Lakers are so hot on their heels it’s not like they are untouchable in the West.
    @Hisham (part2). Between you and me, sometimes the ‘Slamups’ posters aren’t…. ideal. You know for sticking on your walls.

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    Damn Hish, your subscribtion arrived VERY late.

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the balla

    Man, : (!!! Kareem Abdul-Jabbar is getting treated for cancer!!!

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the balla

    That sh1t is f()cked up.

  • http://slamonline.com Brad Long

    Nash is making me picking him with my second overall fantasy pick look very smart. Thank you, Alvin Gentry.

  • kappa

    Holly, you also spelled paycheck in Canadian.

  • http://mbenga-mblog.blogspot.com RM

    Raptors stink. Our defense is atrocious and it won’t be long before CB has had enough and pulls a wince carter (hopefully not).

  • http://slamonline.com Holly MacKenzie

    @kappa What can I say, I’m a Canadian girl! “Check” will never look right to me. And B.Long, Derrick and Ray Allen are KILLING me.

  • http://www.ineedabluefont.com Hisham

    @dacre: your explanation as to how the Suns are performing leaves one question: why the hell are they all of a sudden able to do it now, and not last season? it’s just a complete turnaround. my suspicion: it’s a fluke. they won’t stay this hot. a coaching change can’t be that much of an influence, can it?

    @dark: I moved, and the new tenant of my old apartment was kind enough to forward the issue to me. So that’s why. Hoping to catch 134 on time :)

  • http://www.ineedabluefont.com Hisham

    random moderating is back!

  • Diego

    Steven Jackson with 15 assists for the warriors!!

  • http://realcavsfans.com Anton

    Kobe needs to work on his quads to handle James the balla riding his d!ck.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Why do people continue to run with the meme that the Suns are running a different offense because Mike D is in New York?

  • riggs

    holly dont worry youre not alone, ray and derrick are killing my team as well :( .

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the balla

    Anton with the zinger!!

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    I’m not sold on PHX because they’re still giving up 106 pts per game, that will hurt them in the long run. They absolutely can not win games on off-shooting nights. Also their two starting bigs are very very poor rebounders. Unless, GHill stays around 10 a game (which I doubt), that’ll hurt them too. I don’t think it’s possible to win anything significant in the NBA with no D and no boards.

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the balla

    @Z, I was just writing basically the same thing.

    When your system allows your starting PG and PF/C to play almost no Defense. It doesn’t matter if you win all 82 games. In the playoffs, they won’t win sh1t. Steve Nash is playing un-f()cking-real. But his D is … really bad.

  • http://myspace.com/brandnew Bryan

    Plus the suns have no depth is the machine still going to run when g hill or amare get hurt? You can’t plug in the guys they have and still be effective.

  • http://fjdsfl.com Jukai

    With his performance in Phili, Nash marked his seventh 20 assist game.
    Kevin Johnson had four.
    Nate Archibald had 3.
    Jason Kidd had two.
    Gary Payton and Walt Fraizer had 0.
    One more twenty assist game and he’s tied with Oscar Robertson for fifth. Awesome stuff.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    @Slam – Ya’ll just released a season preview that had the suns finishing behind the Clippers, what praise are you talking about?
    @everyone else – i told you they were gonna be just like that 04-05 team. Grant Hill and Jason Richardson are a better tandem then Joe Johnson and Quentin Richardson. Amar’e is still Amar’e. Channing Frye is Kurt Thomas – Defense + 3pters. Nash is the rare PG (1 of 2) that plays more of a mental game then athletic, which is why his production hasn’t fallen off.
    Nobody should be suprised at Phoenix’s regular season success

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Nbk
    Rare?
    The best point guards play a mental game. YOu telling me Chauncey isn’t playing a mental game? And JKidd definitely plays one, but his production has fallen off because everybody falls victim to father time eventually. Andre Miller plays a mental game. Deron Williams. It’s not that rare.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Yeah allen your right haha my bad……didn’t really think that through

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Sessions should be in a Knick uniform.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Toney Douglas was the right pick. Now imagine if D’Antoni/Walsh picked BRANDON JENNINGS TOO. Wow.

  • http://fjdsfl.com Jukai

    The thing with the Suns this season is that they DO play some semblance of defense. They’re getting stops in the fourth quarter. Nash is -actually- going for the ball-slap when someone tries to roll past him. This is a better defensive Suns team, and that’s why they’re on a roll here.
    They also are also relatively deep, they’re playing a ten man rotation, which is insane for the Suns, since they usually ran six/seven man rotations.
    Still don’t think they’re winning anything since they’re depending on Grant/Amare to stay healthy, and are going to slow down HARD with fatigue later in the season due to age… but it’s fun to watch and shove it in the face of all the haters who said they’d be out of the playoff race.

  • http://myspace.com/brandnew Bryan

    Deep in bodies? Sure. Deep in ability…not so much.

  • http://fjdsfl.com Jukai

    Bryan: that’s true, but outside of point guard, where do they need their abilities? Shooting guard has Richardson and Barbosa, SF has Hill and Dudley, and they tend to interchange anyway. Power forward definitely needs Amare, but they can get a couple of Ws without him. The rest of the PFs/Cs are just filler, and they are deep in filler: outside of Frye who has been getting lots of minutes, they’ve just been randomly shifting Amundson, Earl Clark, and Jarron Collins and Robin Lopez will surely get some hardcore minutes once he comes back. Each are replaceable (big bodies for easy dunks and defense).
    This isn’t like 2006 when you had Nash, Johnson, Q-Rich, Marion, and Amare… and if you lost one, kiss the season goodbye!

  • http://fjdsfl.com Jukai

    Also, all-star ballots are already up. That seemed quick. My ballot goes something like this:
    Dirk, Melo, Nash, Kobe, Jefferson
    Bosh, Lebron, Rose, Wade, Howard
    It will PROBABLY continue like that until the playoffs, for the exception of Bosh.
    However, I’m a realist, and I know that it will -REALLY- be:
    Timmy, Melo, Iverson, Kobe, Stoudemire
    Garnett, Lebron, Rondo, Wade, Howard
    So, blef.

  • thalilbigkahuna

    What shoes is Steve Nash wearing in that picture?

  • http://myspace.com/brandnew Bryan

    I really think earl clark warrants some burn. And I can’t back your rose pick at this moment since he’s putting up like 13 and 5 or something.

  • http://slamonline.com Holly MacKenzie

    @allenp, that’s what’s killing me about nash. dude is 35 years old and looks refreshed after last season. It’s early, but dammit, it’s fun.

  • http://fjdsfl.com Jukai

    Bryan: Damn, thought he was doing better. Maybe I should put Rondo in there.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I doubt Iverson makes the all-star team based on fan voting.

  • http://fjdsfl.com Jukai

    Allen: I seriously give it 50/50. Iverson has a massive fan following, dude. Didn’t he get voted after his awful showing in Detroit?

  • http://myspace.com/brandnew Bryan

    Cosign allenp, unless russ’ twitter campaign for him pays off. I think he really hurt his stock to the casual observer especially.

  • http://myspace.com/brandnew Bryan

    Rose 12.8 ppg 5.7apg 2.8 rpg. Rondo 10.6ppg 9apg 4rpg. Rondo is the better choice right now even more because his team is blowing everyone out so he hasn’t really been playing huge minutes. But I doubt rose is anywhere near 13 and 6 by february more like 19 and 8 imo. Which is why releasing the ballots so early sucks. How many write in votes does yao get? I say 4 million.

  • http://myspace.com/brandnew Bryan

    Honestly though based on 4 games the best pg in the east is brandon jennings.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    You have to be an ‘active’ player to be in the All Star game, no?

  • http://myspace.com/brandnew Bryan

    I dunno tad penny played back in 97 when he was out the whole year, and magic played that one time. Of course that was a special circumstance.

  • http://realcavsfans.com Anton

    Shaq, LeBron, Wade, Garnett, Brandon Jennings
    Duncan, Melo, Kobe, Dirk, CP3

  • http://www.sixers.com 360vue

    HOLLY! nice post up again, but show my sixers some love, they fail to get a proper mention every time. we pushed the suns damn close! favourite game of the season so far for me, and if our 3pt D hasn’t sucked so much all season we probably would have a 3 more W’s in our column including last night; putting us near top of power rankings. Ginobli was simply awesome, genuinely had doubts whether he could singlehandedly carry the spurs past the raps, how completely wrong i was to doubt him

  • http://www.sixers.com 360vue

    @ bryan, early ballot definitely sucks.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Injured I understand, but retirement is another thing altogether. AI is looking like the latter.

  • http://myspace.com/brandnew Bryan

    Now that I think about it penny playing was super garbage he ended up playing like 16 games or something and averaged like 16 points and 4 assists or something ridiculous.

  • http://myspace.com/brandnew Bryan

    I refuse to accept retirement as an option for ai at this point. Stubborn and stupid perhaps but I can’t say the words. The fact that one of my two all time faves is out (marbury) and the other(iverson) is on his way is too much for me to handle.

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    W.
    Duncan
    DIrk
    Melo
    KObe
    Nash

    E.
    DaWight
    Garnett
    C.Bosh
    LeBron
    Wade

    (If I can’t take LeBron as a “guard” I’ll take Gilbert instead of Bosh and move LB back to forward).

  • http://www.sixers.com 360vue

    AI cannot retire. he must not, but he really needs to show that his attitude is something a franchise can deal with, because on playing ability alone, he walked into well over twenty of the starting line ups, but add his contract demands, his playing demands, and his general attitude to team spirit and commitment; i struggle to think he would employ him right now

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    * I’ve just changed my pick – Putting Kevin Durant in for T. Duncn…sorry Dunc’ but 14 & 11 won’t get you a starting spot this year….I think we are witnessing a “fundamental decline”.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    Wilbon on PTI suggested Cleveland as a possible destination for AI. IMO, there’s not enough air in the room for Shaq, Bron and AI. Funny thing about AI is that he can still play at a very high level. I’ve watched him a bit in Memphis and the loss of skills and athletic abilities are grossly exaggerated. He’s so damn stubborn, though.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Not even Danny Ferry is that dumb.

  • http://myspace.com/brandnew Bryan

    If it was really helping the team to have iverson come off the bench I could understand. If he wasn’t better than mike conley and nearly everyone else on memphis and detriot I could understand and then I can see coming down on him but the dude is right, he was detroits best player last year and could be memphis’ best player we don’t know cause we haven’t seen enough of him. He has a legit beef, I get it he should just shut up and make his millions and do what he’s told but has anyone stopped and said you know what he’s right he should be out there, its not benefitting anybody to keep him on the bench . It just isn’t worth the headache and the hassle play the man win some ballgames, win some fans. This is ridiculous.

  • http://myspace.com/brandnew Bryan

    The fact that chris duhon has one less 20 assist game than kidd is disgusting. Chris duhon should be jettisoned into space asap.

  • http://www.sonicbids.com doyouwantmore

    Steve Nash looks like Dick Bavetta wearing a wig in that picture.

  • http://fjdsfl.com Jukai

    Dacre: Unfortunately, Melo is a forward, so the only way you can vote for him is by putting him on the forward spot. So decide who you like better, Durant or Melo.
    Z: Is it wrong for me to sort of want AI on Phoenix? Richardson would be the bomb off the bench and AI would obliterate kids in the run and gun offense without having to worry about playing defense. Of course, I have no idea how well he’d play with Nash and how he’d do surrendering domination of the ball to Nash, but I don’t think the Suns are winning anything anyway… might as well try out that experiment. It REALLY can’t be worse than Shaq.
    Bryan: What was right for AI in Detroit was to come off the bench. They weren’t winning with him starting because he wasn’t interfacing with the other starters properly. It would have made sense for him to come off the bench and take every single damn shot since Detroit had no fire power there. Of course, that’s certainly not the case in Memphis, but as it’s sort of become clear, Memphis wants to take, so…
    Also, for all the people who say Shaq or Walton or Sabonis or Divac were the best passing bigmen: there is only one dude on the twenty assist list who played the center spot. That’s Wilt Chamberlain.

  • Shannon

    Holly, will you marry me?

  • http://fjdsfl.com Jukai

    Also, Jennings has looked like the best point in the east, so if I gotta be true, I gotta put Jennings in that spot, and I gotta put Chris Kaman in the center spot for the west.

  • Kyle

    Nash now has 6 games with 20 assists. Iverson could not fit in with Phoenix. He’s a ballhog and a joke… he’d ruin Jason Richardson’s breakout year, and destroy the pick and roll play with Nash and Stoudamire. It’d be as bad as Shaq(except the first season Shaq tried not to disrupt their game and Porter wasn’t the coach.)

    People shouldn’t be counting out all these teams, the Spurs don’t look like they’re gonna win anything(they lost to Dallas last year and I’d take Marion over Jefferson anyday.) Also the Lakers will have injury problems, and couldn’t hang with the Suns just a few years back. I also love how J Rich gave Nash props saying how easy he makes it, and Nash is going out of his way to make him a huge part of the offense(smart considering he’s had off-court problems but seems like a good guy.)

    The Suns are better than the Celtics(Rondo won’t even finish games since he can’t hit a 12 foot jumper or free throw. Rondo is 3-8 from the line this season in 8 games, and 0-2 from behind the 3 point line. Wow, that’s a great point guard! And KG isn’t even scoring 13 points a game… Allen is under 15 ppg while Sheed is shooting 40 percent getting 4.5 boards a game. They’re so overrated and old.

  • Aaron

    “Toronto shot 59% for the game, while giving up 48% shooting to the Spurs but still lost…”

    Must have been the bats?

  • http://myspace.com/brandnew Bryan

    Jukai , I disagree because that team was actually made for iverson. 4 defensive minded guys and one stone cold killer. And rip could’ve been great off the bench. It was a perfect blend of what iverson needs to succeed and make his team better. I’m probably the only one who thinks the entirety of the blame should be laid on micheal curry.

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    @Ah yes. A little bit of oversight on my part there.
    I ended up voting this way in the end:
    STAT Dwight
    Dirk Bosh
    Durant LeBron
    Kobe Arenas
    Nash Wade

  • http://fjdsfl.com Jukai

    Bryan: 75% should be laid on Michael Curry. The rest is split evenly between Iverson and Rasheed Wallace.
    A lot of people blame Rip, but the dude, after being told by Curry he wouldn’t be benched, sucked his pride, went to the bench, and changed his game up from a cutter off the ball and screen-set shotter to a slashing, off the dribble shooter! When the team was still losing (and people starting pointing out the team did well in a stretch without AI), that’s when Rip said “hey, f this, why doesn’t AI come off the bench” and people say Rip had a bad attitude about the whole thing.
    I think Iverson TRIED hard. He tried almost to have a Jordanesque change to his game, where when his team was rolling, he’d get the ball and take shots very quickly to not mess up the tempo and overcontrol the ball… but I just think Iverson expected people to just do things his way, to meet him halfway, and that never happened on a team full of egos like Detroit.

  • http://www.sonicbids.com doyouwantmore

    @Bryan: Sorry to interject in someone else’s conversation, but real life is a lot different than video games. Iverson plus four defensive guys is great in a video game. In real life you get…what actually happened.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Nah, Curry and his wacktastic offense scheme was the problem.
    I think it was NBK who pointed out that Pistons would not be successful without running, and he was right. Unfortunately, Michael Curry was outsmarted by some random college kid.

  • http://fjdsfl.com Jukai

    Dacre: Durant over Melo? Really?
    Melo: 31.4/6.3/3.0/1.7 on 46/50/82 percent shooting… only 2.1 turnovers a game in 36 minutes
    vs
    Kev: 24.8/7.5/2.7/1.5 on 42/19/84 percent shooting… with 2.3 turnovers a game in 41 minutes
    It’s not close stat wise. if you just like Durant better, you can just tell me to STFU though.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    The difference between Detroit and Memphis is that MC blindsided him with the whole bench thing. That was never, ever in the plans. Whereas in Memphis, Hollins said that AI would come off the bench even before the contract was properly signed. Yes, he SHOULD start because Conley is garbage. But he can’t act surprised that he’s not since they never gave him any indication that he was starting. / spot on, Dacre.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    Yeah, actually Melo deserves that start. / doyouwantmore: ivey + 4 defensive guys did get the sixers to the finals./ sheed doesn’t catch enough heat for completely dogging it last year. his performane in the playoffs was borderline comical.

  • http://fjdsfl.com Jukai

    Sheed really DOESN’T get enough hate for dogging it. I mean, that dude made Beasley look like the hardest hustling dude in the NBA.

  • http://fjdsfl.com Jukai

    I think, because Wade is pretty safe, I’m going to start voting for JJ on all my all-star votes. Just because.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Sheed dogged it like a champ. My homeboy warned me before the season that I would spend Pistons games wanting to strangle him, and he was right. That dude made me seriously angry.
    I agree that AI has handled this Memphis thing all wrong. Not so with that toxic Detroit situation.

  • http://myspace.com/brandnew Bryan

    Iverson with 4 great defenders got to the finals in 01,chief. And the pistons had more offensive talent than those sixers. A high post monster like sheed? Defensive front 3 like the pistons had? And one guy who could score on anyone anytime and bail them out of games when the defense was breaking down? They had their ticket punched to the finals if curry knew how to coach. Straight up, curry was the problem like I said in my post on my blog , sometimes you install a system and then a player comes along whose ability is too big for your system and its your job as a coach to play to your teams strengths and curry did NOT do that on any level.

  • http://www.sonicbids.com doyouwantmore

    @Z: Dude, that was seven years ago. And they still lost.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    i’ll say this: give ai the absolute green light and he’s still giving you 25+ a game. there is nothing that suggests to me that he has fallen of from 2 years ago in denver. his statistical drop off from last year is not the result of diminishing skills. to me, at least.

  • http://www.nba.com/suns Hersey

    Saw Suns in Boston and returned home to DVR’d win over Sixers. Happy to see my team playing fast and scrappy again. They aren’t great on D but they have gotten key stops when they need them, including big blocks from Amar’e. Playoffs is too far away to think about- I’m enjoying seeing them win and have fun.

  • Sporting-Lisbon-Blazers

    @Bryan: LMFAO at the Duhon coment..really, good sh!t dude…also grampha Nash is playing MVP like and SHOULD BE AN ALL STAR, dont care if he starts..because the Suns without Nash are no better than GSW and with him theyre f*ck!ng up some nice teams!

  • Sporting-Lisbon-Blazers

    @Bryan: great coment on Duhon, really LMFAO at that…also grampha Nash is playin MVP like now, should be an all star because that team without him is GSW with less talent, anyone agree? he makes EVERYONE ELSE THERE WAY BETTER and racks up at least lots of regular season Ws

  • http://fjdsfl.com Jukai

    Z and Bryan: Okay, you guys are wayyyy overrating the Pistons. Think about this… Chauncy, the heart and sole of the team, leaves, and Dumars expects Stuckey (who can’t pass) to take care of Chauncy’s passing responsibilities, and Iverson (who can’t lead) to take care of Chauncy’s leading responsibilities. You have an overabundance of talent at the two spot with two egos both thinking they are deserving of the starting spot and refusing to come off the bench… and a massive LACK of talent down in the front, with an aging Sheed and nobody else.
    How is this a recipe for a championship?

  • http://www.alllooksame.com Tarzan Cooper

    YOU SUNS FANS NEVER LEARN DO YOU? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  • http://slamonline.com tealish

    Words you may never hear again: “Erick Dampier was the beast of the night”. 100% from FG, 100% FT. 14 pts, 20 boards, 3 blocks, 1 steal, 0 TO. Whatsup, Shaq?

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    Tealish: i watched the game, on multiple occasions i screamed insults at my screen, he played like this when he had a contract year in GState, moved to Dallas and became a “damper”. Now he’s shooting perfectly, blocking shots (ok, he was always good at that) and ripping 20 boards down??? Where was this dude the last 3 or 4 seasons? He’s quite athletic for a 5, has a good stroke and can bang with anyone…. If this is the new & improved Erick, so be it… Mavs will be AMAZING. If it’s yet another teaser then sizzler….. The eff a Dampier.

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    Can’t wait for Holly to put up tomorrow’s post up so i can gush about the Mavs flexible (and dangerous) lineup, Gil’s TO’s & the way Dwyane outscored Washington by himself (!) in the 2nd half.. I mean, on one hesitation/eurostep drive, his defender bumped him and doubled over holding his face in pain!!! Wade finished the move, scored and ran back… Cool as ice. Gangsta.

  • BIRDMAN JR

    There’s absolutely nothing wrong with AI, the wrong here is the grizz letting conley start at point. That dude is nothing but a backup point. He has gay and mayo on each wing and they are struggling to score more than 75 points. Just let AI start and conley off the bench. It’s not like they’re gonna win games and make it to the playoffs. AI starting allows you to be more competitive and put fans in their seats. Nobody wants to watch conley’s mediocre passing and over penetrating a**. Also the suns still run the same offense DAntoni ran, so yes the systems still makes nash what he is today. Put CP in that run and shoot offense and he puts up 25/14/5/3 without breaking a sweat.

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