Tuesday, November 17th, 2009 at 9:00 am  |  171 responses

Will The Answer Land in New York?

by Marcel Mutoni / @marcel_mutoni

From the moment he became an unrestricted free agent this past summer, the ideal situation for Allen Iverson has always been New York. Big city, all eyes on him, the ball in his hands, and a coach who (theoretically) can bring out the best — or, at least, what remains of it — in The Answer.

Last night, Donnie Walsh confirmed his franchise’s interest in bringing Iverson to MSG. For a 1-9 team (the worst start in team history) going nowhere fast, this could be the jolt they desperately need.

From the NY Daily News:

Can Allen Iverson save the Knicks’ season, rescue them at the box office or at least make them relevant again?

Donnie Walsh will spend the next 48 hours debating what impact, both negative and positive, Iverson could have on the organization. Walsh, the Knicks’ president, confirmed Monday night that the club will explore the possibility of signing Iverson, the former league MVP who was placed on waivers yesterday by the Memphis Grizzlies. “We’ll look into it,” Walsh told the Daily News. “Right now, I’d say probably not but we’ll see.”

The Knicks are obviously a disaster, so why not take a chance on A.I? If he doesn’t work out in Gotham, it’s not like things could actually get any worse for the Knickerbockers. Rock bottom has already been reached; there’s nowhere else to go for this franchise but up.

There are understandable concerns about this move possibly stunting the growth of Danilo Gallinari and Toney Douglas, but I’d argue that playing alongside Chris Duhon is infinitely more damaging to their development.

Assuming they don’t make the mistake of asking him to come off the bench, Allen Iverson — whose manager says he’d love to play for Mike D’Antoni — could help New York regain some semblance of respectability. And even if he doesn’t, at least the product will be entertaining.

Which is a lot more than what you can say about the current Knicks.

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  • http://slamonline.com Brad Long

    Bryan:Isiah had his whiffs too. One of his lottery picks is riding the Denver bench right now.

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    And why the f*ck are we even discussing the Knicks record? Oooh, they’re off to their worst start in history! Oh noes, bring in anyone, quick! Look, they just got RID of everyone. If they were worried about winning games, they would have kept Zach Randolph and Jamal Crawford for another year. Wasn’t the whole point of this summer shedding payroll? Isn’t the whole goal to add some big names next year? Shouldn’t the goal this year be to see how the youngsters play together and how they handle adversity? Throwing AI in the mix and screaming “oh my god, save us, Allen!” is exactly the WRONG approach. Do you want Nate Robinson and Wilson Chandler learning AI’s habits? Do you want shots being taken away from Danilo Gallinari, minutes being taken away from Toney Douglas? Yes, Chris Duhon sucks. We knew that. Can we maybe see what happens when Eddy Curry gets back before entering panic mode after 10 games?

  • http://myspace.com/brandnew Bryan

    You just mentioned the heart of the problem russ they don’t care about winning. At all. The knicks are a joke right now. My love for iverson the player outweighs all the great points you make and I want something to love about my favorite team for once that’s what it al boils down to for me. I want iverson to come in and say f*ck you donnie we are winning some g*ddamn games….. brad : no denying balkman looked good his first season though. And we can go way back to drafting tmac and damon stoudamire. He signed terrible contracts but had more hits than misses in the draft.

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    This is the same thinking that got the Mets to sign Pedro and the Jets to sign Favre and the Yankees to sign 8,437,847 different “All-Stars.” It’s why the Knicks brought in Marbury. Insanity is partially defined as repeating the same action over and over again and expecting a different result. Clearly New York fans and franchises are f*cking insane. Go ahead, Knicks, sign AI. You deserve each other.

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    My favorite part of all of this is how ill-suited Mike D’Antoni is to coach the current roster. You know who would be perfect? Larry Brown. Good going, Knicks. And, since LeBron/Wade/Jesus is coming to save the team next year with D’Antoni as coach, they could go 1-81 and he won’t get fired. He might actually die on the sidelines, but he won’t get fired.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Wayno

    Cosign Russ x2!

  • Cizzo

    Good, I mean great, let Iverson spread his cancer all over the Empire State!!!!!!!!!!!1

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    I’m sticking to my original statement from yesterday that AI will not get signed unless a team suffers a major injury.

  • PitchShifta

    GO KNICKS!!!!!!!!

  • http://slamonline.com Brad Long

    The Knicks have been in panic mode for almost 10 years.

  • peter

    Russ, you can’t really argue that Iverson (despite his recent “never coming off the bench cause I never have before” delusion) is in the same category as Marbury, Steve Francis etc…all of whom had fallen off significantly before coming to the knicks. Iverson was still great in Denver (statistically speaking), plus he would do nothing to hinder their strategy of clearing cap space for 2010 with a one year vet minimum deal.

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    Believe whatever you want. Clearly I’m not changing anyone’s minds.

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    Z-Bo was still great in New York (statistically speaking).

  • http://myspace.com/brandnew Bryan

    And we gave up on pedro and he goes 5 and 1 with a nice era in philly. And we gave up on favre and he’s an mvp candiate and as much as it pains me to say the yankees won the damn world series. So it works sometimes and sometimes it doesn’t. You’re right about this for the most part but I don’t think the knicks are gonna hurt the development of anyone and the plays don’t give a sh*t anymore anyway since they all know they’re meaningless.

  • http://myspace.com/brandnew Bryan

    Agreed zbo was great and so was crawford but the bosses said “f*ck that we’re winning too much lets blow this sh*t up. F*ck the fans too they’ll buy tickets regardless because we will be fine in 2010 *winkwink*”

  • http://www.slamonline.com Wayno

    Iverson at best gives NY 5-10 extra wins and 30-40 extra headaches.

  • peter

    OK Russ, make that “still great (statistically speaking) on a 50 win team”…that lost to the eventual finalists in the playoffs…

  • http://slamonline.com Brad Long

    Here’s the kicker though. Realisticly, who one the Knicks current roster is gonna mature enough in one season, no matter how many shots they get, to really make LeBron or Wade or even Bosh for that matter say “Oh, I want to play with that dude for sure.”? Eddy Curry? No. Didn’t David Lee and Nate both sign 1 year deals? I may be wrong but I thought they did, and if so I’d be suprised if either are back next season, regardless if A.I. comes in or not. What it comes down too is wether or not Donnie Walsh is sticking with his original plan or not. If he wants to just completely start from scratch and try to land a big fish A.I. can’t hurt them this year. If he really thinks he has something worth building with right now, then maybe not. Wilson Chandler and Dino might be the only dudes on this team this time next year. Is that enough to pass on A.I. and the revenue that comes with him?

  • http://slamonline.com Brad Long

    “who on”^

  • peter

    + Z-Bo continues to get chances, which is really my point…time and again players with terrible attitudes get second chances as long as they can put up some numbers, but with AI it’s one and done. Saying nothing of whether it will hurt or help the knicks, its pretty remarkable that teams have so little interest (whether it makes sense is somewhat irrelevant considering the boneheaded signings some teams make). Especially considering the price tag.

  • KHALID SALAAM

    Russ is right. but i also see an argument for brining him in. As a Sixers fan, A.I will always matter to me on some level but right now how i feel about him is basically summed up in varying levels of ZZZZZZZZZ….meaning the whole thing bores me. yeah goin to a knicks game this year will be tough but it was tough last year too. the knicks are abysmal but gallinari and douglass are bright spots and harrington and lee are solid nba players and d’antoni is a good coach. or so i thought. he can’t get them to play hard in november? a week and a half before thanksgiving and they’ve already given up? do your job coach and get your players emotionally involved. this is crazy. and lets be real about another thing, playing the bball mecca card as a reason why wade or bron would come to ny is nuts. newsflash, nyc no longer produces the talent is did 20 years ago. chi, philly, atl, socal etc, these are the places where the best players come from. seriously who is the best nyc guy in the league? artest? c’mon man….knicks fans need to tough it out. every city goes through tough times. at least isiah and marbury are gone, surely these are better times as oppossed to a couple of years ago. nyc bball have to tough it out. imagine how it is for cleveland fans? one of the worst teams ever in the browns, a baseball team that trades all of its good players and watched its 2 pitchers from last year play in the WS and a cavs fanbase that is shook that its best player ever might just bounce on the franchise next summer. plus they love in cleveland!! one of the worst cities in the nation. NYC stop whining.

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    What revenue? Season ticket plans are sold out. Madison Square Garden isn’t the freaking Izod Center or (sorry) Phillips Arena. People are still coming to games, they still have the MSG network. People really think signing Allen Iverson for 72 games (presuming he doesn’t throw a hissy fit and leave another team) will make a difference in Dolan’s bottom line? Seriously? People would still come to Knick games if I was the starting point guard.

  • KHALID SALAAM

    * live in cleveland

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    And I’m sure people will be rushing right out to buy Knicks Iverson jerseys after his 54-game stint in Detroit and three-game run in Memphis. KEEP THE RECEIPT.

  • peter

    Russ you seriously think people WON’T rush and buy Iverson Knicks jerseys? That thing will hit the top ten list within days.

  • http://www.sixers.com 360vue

    Walsh isn’t attracting anyone next year at this rate. Fact. AI’s release is a blessing and he’d be a fool not to take it, simply put, Knicks can’t get any worse. Coaches headache can’t get worse, even with AI and his stinky attitude. At least with AI and a fit Harrington, they’ll have two players who can light it up now and again. Thats worth at least 10+ wins when your in the East, probably more considering they are with my Sixers and the shoddy Nets in the Atlantic. Or Walsh could be praying they stack it to the bottom of the league and end up with best chance of #1 pick, that wont entice the big 3, but the likes of Butler could be attracted to playing with a number one pick

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    John Hollinger was saying that there must have been 4000 people at the start of the Hawks game the other day. The NBA is cooking attendance numbers.

  • http://slamonline.com/ niQ

    Russ if you play point guard for the Knicks I will buy a ticket now.

  • http://www.realcavsfans.com Anton

    FREE AI! Oh wait…

  • tavoris

    Z..John Hollinger doesn’t know what the hell he’s talking about 99% of the time. With that being said, attendance numbers ARE cooked for every team that’s not the Knicks or the Lakers.

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    Interesting argument, 360vue, except for the fact that the Knicks traded away their 2010 first-round pick as part of the Marbury deal. It now belongs to Utah, whether it’s No. 30 or No. 1. Entirely unprotected.

  • http://myspace.com/rsaenz24 rog123

    Unless AI can realize that he can no longer be “the man” on a good team, I don’t really care what he does. Btw I was a fan of his from his philly days until his denver days

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    What is there to think about? DO IT, DONNIE!

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    And no, I don’t think people will rush out to buy Iverson Knicks jerseys. Sure, some people might, but are you spending $150 on an authentic jersey of a guy who’s a one-year rental at BEST?

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Let him play his natural position! Chris Duhon can be like the New York Eric Snow! This would be so awesome.

  • tavoris

    Russ, there are thousands of pimple-facedpre teens (who look like extras on “Malibu’s Most Wanted”) that would probably disagree with you.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Toney Douglas was a great pick; he definitely has a lot to learn from Allen Iverson. THIS MOVE WORKS!

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Imagine if the Knicks would have just kept Larry Brown instead of listening to the terrible players whining……………. And then signed Iverson.

  • tavoris

    Russ, I’m not necessarily disagreeing about NY being a good destination (and Mike D gives me the impression where he’d b nice during ONE press conference, but then promptly send Iverson to the end of the bench-citing “conditioning issues”)

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    Part of me wants it to happen just to see how fast the New York media savages AI. This could make the Marbury Era look like a high point.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    WHAT?!?! The Knicks don’t have a 2010 1st round pick?? Wow, I didn’t even realize that. I figured Stern was cooking up a plan to get the Knicks the #1 pick to entice LeBron or Wade or whoever to come to NYC. It appears the Jazz will have a very nice pick.

  • peter

    Russ, sure, I personally won’t be buying, but then I don’t own any NBA jerseys. But, if I was in the jersey market, I would sure as hell buy an AI Knicks jersey over any of the other scrubs on that team. Even if he was gone in a year. Besides, $150 dollar authentic is hardly the only merchandise option. And. There’s no way in hell he can be as bad as Marbury, no way.

  • Airswade

    I think AI & the Knicks should both go play in Europe……

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    I’d just get a blank Knicks jersey with a full set of velcro numbers and letters at this point.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    people still buy jerseys? to wear with what? i’m straight with the t-shirts with the names on the back, 120 dollars more in my pocket and i can actually wear that with regular fitted jeans.

  • http://slamonline.com Brad Long

    Again, Iverson was 5th in the league in jersey sells, LAST SEASON.

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    Michael Jordan was probably pretty high too. Maybe the Knicks should sign him, too.

  • http://slamonline.com Brad Long

    ^Couldn’t hurt. lol.

  • http://www.stonesthrow.com/madlib Michael NZ

    Co-sign Russ’ thoughts. A million times co-sign. This ‘selling jerseys’ or ‘selling tickets’ bullsh!t has got to stop. I can’t even be bothered arguing against those who are yelling THE KNICKS MUST SIGN AI! ITS A PERFECT FIT! I’m losing faith in the human race just by reading some of these posts.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Y’all are going around in circles.

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