Monday, December 14th, 2009 at 12:58 pm  |  128 responses

Decade’s Best: Offensive Player

The Hugh Hefner of this sh*t…

by Myles Brown/@mdotbrown

2002-03: Scored 40+ points in 9 consecutive games and averaged 40.6 PPG in February.

2005-06: Scored 62 points in 3 quarters against Dallas, the only time in the shot clock era one player has outscored an entire team.

Scored 81 points versus Toronto, the non-Wilt record for a single game.

Scored 45 + points in four consecutive games, the first occurrence since 1964. Wilt Chamberlain and Elgin Baylor are the only other players to do so.

Averaged 43.4 PPG in January, the eighth highest total in league history and the non-Wilt record.

2006-07: 4 consecutive-and ten total-50+ point games, both non-Wilt records.

2008-09: Scored 61 points in Madison Square Garden on 61 percent shooting, highest total in the stadium’s history.

Honestly, are there even any other candidates?

Shaquille O’Neal as we knew him faded away in 2005 and Steve Nash as we know him didn’t arrive until then. Unfortunately LeBron James was drafted four years too late for this discussion and Allen Iverson…well, don’t get me started on Allen Iverson.

Kobe Bryant became the greatest offensive player of this decade by mastering the fundamentals and principles of basketball. The aesthetic appeal of his scoring is not in its flash and flare, but in its sheer brilliance. While his remarkable athleticism was an advantage, it was also merely the complement to a completely sound game honed through a tireless work ethic. It wouldn’t be an exaggeration to estimate that practically every shot of his that leaves your mouth agape is one he’s taken more than a thousand times. He can score from anywhere on the floor under any circumstances and is a criminally underrated distributor. Best offensive player of the decade? Psssh. The question should be whether he’s the best offensive player ever.

And to think that it all began like this…

While the mention of Michael Jordan’s mantra, ‘I can’t accept not trying’ has certainly become cliched, it was was apt nonetheless. Both in this situation and almost any other regarding Kobe’s scoring mentality. Shaq acknowledged that the 18 year old Bryant was the only Laker with the ‘guts to take those shots’ on that fateful evening in Utah and it is worth noting that such failures have crippled the confidence of countless others.

But to some, despite his growth, this was an early indication of his Achilles heel . To some, despite proving himself to be an uncontainable offensive force, Kobe Bryant limited himself with his uncontainable ego. Much was made of his indomitable will, but that will is also what drove him into triple teams and turnovers. To some, his need for personal glory superseded what was required for team success.

However the fact of the matter is that he is capable of things most cannot even imagine, much less accomplish. Can you blame him for trusting himself more than his teammates? Well, in some instances, yes. His shameless performance in the 2004 NBA Finals cost the Lakers a ring and the ensuing fallout has been well documented. His epic scoring binges while seemingly necessary, were not always conducive to the development of his teammates. Instead of empowering them, his greatness was a repellent. Whether he-and Phil-were right or not, his play clearly stated that no one else was worth sharing the ball with.

Now that the burden has been lightened and he’s back to his winning ways, these arguments may not be as prevalent, but the divide remains. For every fan who incredulously exclaims ‘How did he make that?’ there is a critic wondering ‘Why didn’t he pass it?’. Of course a host of other issues have contributed to his likability-or lack thereof-that influence our perception of his decision making, but ultimately the only thing that matters is that we all watch.

Because like it or not, when it comes to putting the ball in the basket, no one has been better than Kobe Bryant.

Ever.

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  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ Tariqُُ

    Oh Kobe is def > West.

  • Mack

    Kobe Bryant is the decade’s best offensive player; nobody (no TWO bodies) can stop, contain, befuddle, frustrated or distract this man. Mike is the best ever, but Kobe is following behind very closely.

    BTW, The only thing I see that Kobe has on Jordan is jump-shooting. Personally, I think Jordan would kill Kobe in a one-on-one game.

  • Eboy

    You’d be right.

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    Kobe is close to becoming the greatest player ever behind Jordan, with two more rings and more buzzer beaters, more scoring binges, more ALL NBA first teams, defensive first team and Finals MVP. Jordan will be the only person he can be compared too. Lebron is good l-fans, but he has more great players to go through in the east. I personally see Dwade having a better career than him and Howard has a grudge against him for not shaking his hand. Lebron might win one title and thats it, especially if he listens to his mom and agent and stay in Cleveland. Back to the point. Kobe can do anything on the court, and he is a warrior playing hurt for two years with finger, played the other night with hurt finger, but l-fans boy didn’t play 3 games one year because of sprained finger. COME ON. Kobe is in a league of his own and if you play ball, someone said Kobe couldn’t play in 90′s come on. IF you can play if a guy hand checks you, you can use that to your advantage to guide them, Jordan did it all the time, don’t you think Kobe would develop how to beat people. Kobe is clearly the best post player, jump shooter, clutch player, defensive stopper(when he wants to) and CHAMP. KOBE enjoy him now, because when he leaves their will be a void and Lebron, Dwade, Durant, Roy cannot fill it.

  • http://slamonline.com ronronronronronronron

    81 pts nuff said

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    in regards to the Myles v. Allen debate.. Since championships are the “agreed upon” measure for success – ya’ll should note teams built from the inside out generally win more titles then teams built from the outside in

  • J

    never seen anyone with such a killer instinct and a complete offensive repertoire since MJ. post, fade away, anything. but don’t say that he didn’t become a ball hog for quite a time, for a reason or without. basketball is a team play, even if you’re teammates are Smush Parker or not. he did understand that but sadly that knowing came when he had better teammates. but regardless, he is the best player in this decade.

  • J

    @ the Seed: “Lebron might win one title and thats it, especially if he listens to his mom and agent and stay in Cleveland. ” …. seriously? cmon stop hating.

  • http://slamonline.com tealish

    Hard to argue this one. Kobe, no doubt. Best offensive player EVER? That’s a little questionable. Most versatile offensive player, yep.
    Also, Decade’s Best Scorer (not offensive player) would be an argument worth having between Kobe and AI.

  • J

    ^^^^^^^^^agree with Mr. RLW and Tariq at 7:49. and also i love LeBron, but i have to give Kobe the nod on who’s better at this point.

  • http://slamonline.com ronronronronronronron

    hey that wasnt me @ 1042.. damn it

  • http://www.realcavsfans.com Anton

    6:54 of that vid – one of Kobe’s highlights is getting blocked by Wade?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Pardeep

    I think AI would get the nod of best scorer in the deecade because higher career average 4 scoring titles and more points scored in the decade aswell I think. But offensive player it aint even close Kobe is the best offensive player ever.

  • Lazaruz

    damn ive never seen that airball vid. bahaha nicenice

  • http://slamonline.com tealish

    Pardeep… ever? How about that original 23? Kobe’s more versatile with the 3 ball, but if you a guy for offensive on your squad, you’re choosing Kobe over Michael Jordan? Really?

  • http://slamonline.com tealish

    haha @ 1:32 of the Airball vid, Eddie Jones in corner is just thinking, “Are you fcking kidding me?”

  • zach AU

    does anyone ever notice MELO wears his
    headband backwards?

  • FoCo

    This article is Paul Pierce. I.E. The Truth

  • Foobar

    @tealish I don’t think the difference is big when it comes to offense. Kobe got better range, comparable FG%, comparable fadeaway, comparable athleticism, good FT%. If you were to pick the two best possible versions of both players, Kobe would be the better one. 81 trumps 65.

    Also, Myles, AI is the runner up here, I don’t care if you don’t like him. More scoring titles than anyone, highest career ppg, second highest total points, high FTA, high FGM, solid number of 3s. The only year he didn’t play well, offensively, was 2003-04 (still solid) and Detroit. Statistically AI is probably in the top 5 offensive players of all time (5th). Wilt, MJ/Kobe, Elgin, AI.

  • chintao

    I can’t argue this one. Kobe scores even when the WG’s say, “No”.

  • tavoris

    Kobe is the only player in the league that has no weaknesses offensively. that is all.

  • moneyshot

    I agree Kobe is no doubt that Kobe is the best scorer this decade. But, better than WIlt and Kareem. I know WIlt played in the 60′s but he averaged 50 points a game one season, and had a 100 in one game, I don’t what era that still is impressive. And, Kareem had an unblockable sky hook which I still think is the most effective shot today, and that shot lead him to be the all-time point scorer until someone breaks it. Lastly, Kobe took a lot from Jordan’s game. Im not knocking Kobe, but if it wasn’t for Jordan, Kobe would not have the offensive game that he has today.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Everybody takes something from the people ahead of them.
    Half the young cats coming up in the league wouldn’t have a crossover if it wasn’t for Iverson, Hardaway and Isiah Thomas. I appreciate the fact that Kobe studied Jordan’s game and then incorporated what was successful into his own game. That shows dedication and intelligence. I just didn’t appreciate when Kobe tried to adopt Jordan’s whole off-court persona complete with single hoop earring and floppy fisherman hats.
    That was lame.
    And I can’t believe that Eboy wrote what he wrote. Somebody had to have hacked his name.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    You should know better, Allen.

  • john jackson

    Let one thin be sure, KOBE BRYANT cannot score at will.
    I hate to remind you people that the boston celtics when it really really came down to it stopped KOBE BRYANT.
    There was not a time when his scoring at will was needed more than at the finals against boston.
    But did he really lived up tot the ‘greatest or unstoppable scorer’ that he was?
    Mj wasn’t always unstoppable, but he damn sure was when he was in his prime.
    Like my man jigga sad, men lie women lie but numbers don’t.
    see for yaself.
    MJ in his prime for example had a average off 41.0 point in the finals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
    Kobe at the other hand let his team go out with a record 39 point loss.
    Come on now, no real unstoppable player allows that.

  • UnRel

    Kobe’s scouting report says one of two things.. it doesn’t say “give him jumpers” or “force him left”.. those two things are.. “throw all 5 guys at him and let the other lakers beat you” or “shut everyone else down and force kobe into a one on five game”… forget match up problems (lebron).. forget nash’s passing ability.. etc etc.. kobe is the best OFFENSIVE player of the decade.. he can drive, post, hit the 3, FTs, has the best mid-range game in the history of the game, and passes the rock (the triangle doesn’t allow for huge assist averages).. as far as best EVER?.. it’s impossible to compare different eras and decades.. wilt, cap’, mj, kobe.. all beasts on the offensive end.. karl malone was pretty damn solid on the O end, also.. they were all unguardable and all possess skills that the others lack.. so why compare?.. kobe is the best EVER.. along with wilt, cap’, and mj..

  • http://4Aitkenroad,Hamilton,ScotlandML37YA Hambone

    kobe = worst open court dunker of all time

    and how bad are d.fish`s passes?

    man only kobe and vince could finish them plays

  • http://www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    Two things…
    1) Comparing eras is a bunch of semantical bullsh*t. All that sending players back in time is pointless. The game moves forward. That is why we honor those who laid a foundation for the future. They could undoubtedly benefit from the progression of travel, technology, and x’s & o’s, but they didnt. It is not a disgrace to them to imply that someone may have improved on their innovations. Its like comapring a Model T Ford to a brand new S Class. The latter is obviously nicer, but wouldn’t even exist without the former. The same will happen to todays players.

    2)Numbers dont lie. Intellectually dishonest people do. And to even try and compare the 2008 Boston Celtics to the 1993 Phoenix Suns is nothing short of preposterous. The C’s were the best defensive team since the 96 Bulls. Who was the Suns best defender? Dan Majerle? Danny Ainge? Richard Dumas? Gimme a f*ckin break…

  • apton

    right on.awesome article.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Don’t sleep on Dumas? Before the coke, homie gave Pippen all he wanted.
    Oh, and Jordan didn’t take over ever game. He lost for eight straight seasons people. It wasn’t until Scottie and Horace grew some nuts that Jordan started winning rings.
    Remember, the Bull damn near went back to the Finals the one year Jordan set out for the season, and managed to get on the threshold of the Finals the next year with him as a shell of his former self before the rejuvenation in 96.
    Scottie Pippen was the effing truth and if anybody thinks that any of the current Lakers are on Pippen’s level, I should slap the taste out of your mouth.
    Get it right. Pippen is better than Pau and Odom combined. Top 50 suckas.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    I should just let you do my talking from now on.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    @DJ, If I remember correctly, Shaq shot near 65% for that series and Kobe shot 35%. Ill certainly go to bat for him when I think hes been wronged, but he brought that one on himself. It wasnt solely his fault, but his performance was the primary factor in the loss. It wouldnt matter if Karl Malone was there or not if Kobe wouldnt pass him the ball.

  • http://fashionsensei.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/jackie-moon.jpg Jackie Moon

    Pippen is better than Pau and Odom combined.

    Well, only because you’re basically saying Pippen is better than Pau.

  • http://fashionsensei.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/jackie-moon.jpg Jackie Moon

    Kobe Bryant CAN score at will on any 1,2, or 3 players. It’s when you get to 4 or 5, then it depends on who’s defending, and who else Kobe has to play on his team.

  • http://myspace.com/brandnew Bryan

    I hate Pippen almost as much as I hate miller but he was a f*ckin star.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    The reason Kobe Bryant is not as dominant a player offensively as say Shaq, Kareem or Wilt
    (0)Kobe has never shot over 50% for a season
    (0)Shaq for example has never shot under 55% for a season
    (0)Shaq routinely brought double and triple teams, resulting in far more open shots then Kobe creates with his playmaking ability
    (0)Shaq and Co. may be horrible at shooting free-throws, but nothing hurts a team more then being in the penalty 6 minutes into the game
    (0)And most underrated of all aspects, people loved playing with shaq this decade, they performed better with him on the court. You can’t say that about Kobe until 2007

  • a_whiteman

    Kobe will only have more pts all nba all d is because he played more years. I don’t understand why everyone thinks kobes long range game is so amazing,he has only shot better then34% 3 times in his career, which isn’t really that impressive.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    NBK
    See, it’s a semantics game.
    How do you define “best?”
    Most dominant?
    Most effective?
    Most versatile?
    Most skilled?
    Kobe is clearly the most skilled and versatile scorer of his era, and possibly of all time. At least to my eyes. He does more things better than anybody else. I remember when his handle was just ridiculous back in the day and he was crossive cats over like it was nothing. Now you rarely see it.
    But, I don’t think Kobe is the most effective or dominant offensive player of all time. Hell, it’s questionable whether he’s the most dominant or effective of this era.
    I think the argument has to consider dominance, effectiveness, skil and versatility. Each category carries weight, but if you are just ridiculous in one category it can cover up your problems in other categories.
    With that said, I think Wilt, Jordan and Kareem were better scorers all-time than Kobe. But, after them, Kobe hangs with anyone.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Should say better offensive players, not just better scorers.

  • Chris

    I just wish the NBA hadn’t changed the damn rules and made it so much easier to score. I mean no touch rules on the perimeter? Defensive 3 seconds? Give me a break with that BS. Give the defenders some leverage back man. The league was more fun when it was physical and the offensive player had to do everything in his power to score points.

    These days all these guys have to do is flail and scream to get to the foul line. I’m looking at you Paul “neck snap” Pierce. I’m looking at you Dywane “Fall to the floor everytime” Wade. I’m looking at you Kobe “Scream HEY and flail” Bryant. Was it any coincidence after the rule changes started in 2005 EVERY all-star guard had career highs in scoring and free throws? I think not.

    Kobe is a great scorer and all but the rule changes have certainly helped as well. That’s why that “EVER” line to end this article is dumb as hell.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Legitimate point Chris.
    But, you could argue that the unofficial quotas enforced during the olden days, along with the general lack of athleticism also affected those scorers.
    Bascially, players gifted with amazig physical ability were consistently battling against overmatched defenders. Plus, the League had very little focus on defense back in those days, and the overall pace of games was ridiculous. Even the vaunted Celtics were a great defensive team mainly because of Russell’s shot blocking, not because of a great defensive scheme.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    I agree with that Allen. IMO better = winning, and the best players win the most. IMO dominant bigs are inherently better then dominant wings. Ofcourse there are certain circumstances that can contradict that belief (jordan). But I would take Shaq in his prime over Kobe in his prime to build a team. IMO there would be better odds to win titles with shaq

  • http://www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    See? AllenP is doing just fine speaking for me. Whatever advantage Kobe has from rule changes, Jordan had from blazing past and bounding over earthbound defenders. And Oscar had from a pace that made the Suns look like the Spurs. A triple double is an amazing feat, but significantly easier with damn near 200 possesions per game. 37PPG on 50%+ is also amazing, but honestly, who was the second most athletic player in the league? Drexler? Michael was a completely unprecedented specimen in a time when people were built more like you or I than LeBron or Wade and that isnt taken into account enough when speaking of his insane averages of the late 80′s.

  • tavoris

    a_whiteman-look up the player that has hit the most 3′s in a game.

    Myles-I disagree with you about AI 99% of the time, but u r 100% correct about Kobe. There’s nothing skill-wise ANYONE can take away from that man. PERIOD.

  • tavoris

    nbk-Shaq in his prime was as good a bet to a title as Jordan or Russell in their primes. But Kobe isn’t chopped liver, either. And this discussion is about OFFENSE, not necessarily winning. Kobe does things with the basketball regularly that NO OTHER PLAYER IN THE HISTORY OF THE NBA can do.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Tavoris you are one frustrating dude… I don’t care what Kobe Bryant “can” do. I know that he is the most skilled player in the world, but like I said I judge best off of winning, actually in terms of offense, the best players produce the most EFFICIENT offense for their team. (and too add one to my list of why shaq is better at offense then kobe, (0)Shaq created second opportunities off of Offensive boards) Kobe is the best one man offense maybe ever, but Shaq made everyone on his team happier, and more productive. If this list only ran from 05-06 to today i would have Kobe behind Nash instead of Shaq as the best “offensive” player.

  • tavoris

    I don’t disagree with you, nbk. my post was in AGREEMENT with you. However, Kobe’s ability should be pretty much unquestioned.

    simmer down…

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    NBK
    I was with you until the comment about Nash.
    How can we argue that Nash was more productive or that is teammates were happier?
    Based on what? Kobe has been to the Finals twice since 2006 and been to the playoffs every year.
    Has Nash?
    With the defections of Joe Johnson, Marion and, soon, Amare, are we sure all Nash’s teammates love to play with him? Hell Ron Artest damn near took a pay cut to run with Kobe, and Pau hasn’t looked happier.
    But I do I agree with you about big men.
    I said up top that I think dominant big men cause more defensive problems than dominant swingmen, and I stick by that.
    There is a reason Hakeem won two rings without a player by his side of the caliber of Pippen or Rodman. The game was built for big men. Hell, most of the rule changes in league history have been to limit the effectiveness of big men, while give advantages to little guys. That tells you something about who is important.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Nash’s teams have led the league in Pts every year he’s been back in Phoenix except 1. The offense has been top 2 overall every year. They lead the league in fg%, 3pt% yearly, and win more games w/ offense then Kobe Bryant led teams

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    for a team to rely on outside shooting and still lead the league in FG% says a lot. I know I know they ran d’antoni’s system but Nash does have 2 MVP’s in that time, earning both solely off of offensive exploits

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