Thursday, December 3rd, 2009 at 11:00 am  |  49 responses

Welcome to the Doghouse, Nate Robinson

What’s really surprising, is that it took this long for things to reach this point between D’Antoni and N8: “His patience with Robinson at an all-time low, D’Antoni took a drastic step to teach Li’l Him a lesson during the Knicks’ 118-104 loss to the Magic. Robinson recorded his first DNP of the season, and there is no guarantee that the veteran guard will see the floor tomorrow night against the Hawks in Atlanta. ‘We want to win,’ D’Antoni said after the Knicks fell to 4-15 after beating the Suns the previous night. ‘And if he’s conducive to winning then he’ll obviously be back in the lineup. If not he’s not.’ What made the benching all the more conspicuous is that three days earlier Robinson scored 22 fourth-quarter points against the Magic at the Garden. Orlando had no answer for Robinson…until D’Antoni gave the Magic one. ‘It is a coach’s decision,’ Robinson said. ‘He knows what he is doing. I’ve had plenty of DNP’s before in my career so it is nothing new.’ The benching was Robinson’s first since Dec. 17, 2007, when Isiah Thomas had had enough. D’Antoni, who according to sources was against the Knicks re-signing Robinson over the summer, has been critical of his behavior in recent weeks.”

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  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Mike D likes assigning cats who can contribute but refuse to conform to the doghouse. It’s a pattern.

  • http://slamonline.com/ niQ

    Why was he benched? It doesn’t make any sense. Nate is one of their energy guys. I’m not from New York and I think its weird he was benched.

  • http://myspace.com/brandnew Bryan

    This is laughable. He got benched for being the only person trying to win. Gtfoh. I hope Iverson comes to garden and drops 60 on your stupid as$ so you can see what would have helped you win firsthand. “We only care about winning” ha! That’s the last thing the knicks brass gives a sh*t about. F*ck the owners ,gm, coaches and anyone who has anything to do with this pathetic showing.

  • http://www.sixers.com 360vue

    I’m not a fan of Nate after he stole that ’06 dunk title just because he’s small, but D’Antoni is acting like an amateur in NY. I don’t think he likes Nate anyway, anyone remember Nate shooting a trey into his own net after the buzzer and Mike went MENTAL on the kid over what was really nothing

  • Kas

    After a Knicks-Raptors game in april I was standing outside of MSG, when i overheard a native new yorker say: “Nate Robinson is a fu*kin’ bum. No fundamentals!”
    He was absolutely right.

  • Yesse

    Just trade him to a championship team.

  • riggs

    i am a nate FAN and a new yorker but im glad d’antoni sat him down. Nate can be really immature at times when it comes to basketball and he needed to see wtf would happen when he messes up.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    It’s impossible to make the NBA at 5’7″ and have “no fundamentals.”

  • Jrooks

    Stupid to bench him

  • http://www.another48minutes.com Gerard Himself

    is this the moment where we start calling him Nate Dogg again?

  • http://www.twitter.com/Th3_R3al_Chris Th3_R3al_Chris

    Nate Robinson is the Knicks best player, in my opinion. While that may not say much for the Knicks, I believe Nate Robinson is among the NBA’s best offensive players. He’s a prolific scorer.

  • underdog

    First of all I think David Lee is hands down the best player on the Knicks roster. Second, I wonder when the Knicks fire D’Antoni…

  • Sim

    Mike Antoni is the most overrated coach in the history of basketball.

  • Clark

    Trade him to the Lakers. They need a new starting PG, and c’mon, that would be hilarious.

  • tavoris

    Sim Posted: Dec.3 at 2:52 pm
    Mike Antoni is the most overrated coach in the history of basketball.

    I think he’s a LONG way from taking this title from Don Nelson.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Everybody is turning on Mike D.
    He’s exactly the same coach he was with the Suns. Just like the Suns are exactly the same players they were before they met Mike D. Well, except for Joe Johnson…

  • http://slamonline.com Russ Bengtson

    Nate was celebrating every shot against the Magic like it was a game-winner and not bothering to get back on D. Meanwhile, the Magic lead never shrank. On top of that, he picked up Vince full-court with under a minute down 14 and knocked him down. Nice to show some defensive effort after the game was already over. And in a game earlier this season, Herb Williams called Nate over to tell him something—I believe it was about an observation on how the screen-roll was being defended—and Nate just yelled at him and turned his back. Herb waved disgustedly in his direction and sat back down. This was a long time coming.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    Eff Mike. Seriously. Why can’t he focus on what Nate does instead of what he can’t do? No, he’s not a point guard. Yes, he’ll make dumb decisions on/off the court for time to time. However, he is a high-energy player and a stone cold scorer. Handle him like Karl handles JR. You play him 20-25 mins a night off the bench and you never leave him on the court for more than 5-6 mins at a time. If he’s on, you let him rock. If he’s off, you short-leash him. That’s not rocket science! Nate could be very valuable for a good team as a microwave type guy. Just never expect him to run the show. Ever.

  • LA Huey

    Lot of you guys just straight up hating on Mike D. He deserves every bit of criticism about the Iraq invasion though.

  • floe

    nate’s a douche.. a real life kryptonite.

  • L

    totally agree w Z. Please send Duhon to the dog house instead, the guy is no starting point guard material. L

  • Bart

    Nate is horrible just cut him nobody is trading for a 5’7 shot chucker who celebrates every single shot like he won the game

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    WOW Mike D’Antoni is a moron right now. I’m starting to realize just how stupid he’s been. He had a huge say in locking down Steph for the season last year… when the Knicks needed a f*ckin’ guard. Now he’s shutting Nate Robinson down?! DOES HE NOT KNOW CHRIS DUHON IS SHOOTING 24% FROM THE FIELD OR IS HE JUST A DUMB@SS. AND START TONEY DOUGLAS YOU IDIOT.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    I’m not saying Nate should celebrate every shot like he won the game, but it certainly doesn’t help the Knicks when a struggling Chris Duhon continues to play insane minutes while the other guards are glued to the bench. What the f*ck do you call that? Why does Mike D’Antoni refuse to sign and/or play guards that can help his team?

  • http://www.slamonline.com JL

    does it seem crazy that larry hughes is probably the best point guard possibility for the knicks right now? although, that would mean him handling the ball more and having more opportunity to take bad shots. ugh. they should trade him for dj augustin. he would fit real well!

  • http://www.sixers.com 360vue

    @AllenP dude doesn’t Mike D deserve to be turned on? For his performance in NY obviously. He was exceptional at PHX, when he signed Nash he changed the style and they ran almost every team in the L. But this is here and now, whats Mike done, that is substantial, to deserve credit? I’m open to ideas but his whole period seems to be a train wreck to me; his number one policy has been attempting to secure AS FA’s next year and that looks set to be screwed up.

  • Robb

    D’antoni is the NBA’s version of NFL’s Eric Mangini. Only he thinks he’s good.

  • LA Huey

    You can’t cite Steph, who nobody in the league wants, as one of Mike D’s bad moves.

  • UnRel

    i wouldn’t place blame on Mike D yet.. he’s still dealing with the aftermath of Zeek Thomas.. it’s like blaming Obama for Bush’s mess.. and who knows.. maybe there’s more to the story.. maybe nate jumped on someone else’s back in the shower.. like he did with Zeebo..

  • http://www.slamonline.com Dave

    Wasn’t Nate the first thing D’an raved about in NY? He’s great! He’s so fast! So much energy! I think D’an is a poor judge of a player’s value, to be honest.
    Seriously, though, I think this would be solved if the NBA could send teams down to the D-League. I really think the only thing that would wake the Knicks up at this point was if attendance was forced to several hundred and all television rights were gone. They might actually put in some effort then.

  • http://slamonline.com Big D

    At what point does it make sense to start Nate Robinson. He’s an energy guy, who scores in bunches and doesn’t play D. He should be a sixth-man like Bobby Jackson or Ty Lawson. Mike D is clueless how to use Nate Robinson.

  • tavoris

    BigD, nobody on the Knicks plays D. And Al Harrington already has the “designated bench scorer” spot. Why have the second unit fighting for shots to make up for the 20 point deficit the starters created?

  • http://www.triplejunearthed.com/dacre Dacre

    Nate Robinson is not a team player. D’Antoni is a team coach. THe mix doesn’t work and it won’t work.


    as soon as they trade him, he’s gonna end up being major key players or stars on playoff bound teams, like most knick players that have been traded in the past…think, jamal crawford, channing frye, antonio mcdyess, nazr mohammed, marcus camby, nene, even reinaldo balkman who was a hustler for the squad gets love in denver…they trade away a 20 and 10 player(zach randolph)……I’m beginning to believe it’s not the knick players that are bums, it’s the knicks organization……

  • tavoris

    D’Antoni is a stats coach-not a team coach. The greatest assets on his resume is Nash’s two MVP awards.

  • tavoris

    CARTEL, we’re right with you.

  • tom


  • Tim

    D’Antoni is a douche! the only reason people rate him is because steve nash had a break out year with him
    Nate is the prolific scorer and he should be trying to use that to his advantage not put it away.

  • MikeC.

    I think most of the people posting here are young’uns who don’t remember what it was like when the Knicks were actually good. The mid to late 90′s Knick teams were filled with players who played hard, accepted roles and didn’t embarrass the franchise or the league. Blaming D’Antoni for Marbury’s mess is ridiculous. Marbury might go down as one of the greatest wastes of talent in basketball history. To those who say that Nate should start, I say that you’re idiots. Since Nate doesn’t like to pass and loves to chuck, he’d have to start at the 2. A 5’7″ 2 guard is not an ingredient for success. The Knicks are on the road to something now. Trading Randolph was so good for the team I almost cried with joy. For years the Knicks took on poor performers with worse contracts in hopes of scratching their way into the playoffs instead of tearing it all down and rebuilding properly. The Knicks are bad right now. This is what rebuilding looks like. NY is still digging themselves out of the hole Isiah and Layden dug for them. It takes more than a couple years to dig out of a decade deep hole. If Isiah hadn’t traded away all those unprotected draft picks for underperforming players with huge contracts, we’d be in a much better place. The only player I was sad to see go was Jamal Crawford. He took some terrible shots, but he cared about being a Knick and cared about being there when things turned around. Losing Kurt Thomas was bad too. He was a connection to the last of the good Knick teams, and didn’t care about anybody’s star power. He would smack a d!ckhead for acting like a d!ckhead. Which is why Isiah traded him. Having players who even give half a sh!t about doing things the right way will go a long way towards making the Knicks a winning team again. Championship teams aren’t built in a day. Walsh and D’Antoni might be the only keepers in the entire organization at this point.

  • http://IJustWantMyNameToLookBig.com Chukaz

    The Knicks are so pathetic that they make the nets blush

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Mike C. what are you talking about? The Knicks are on what road right now? THEY HAVE NO FIRST ROUND DRAFT PICK. If hoping for a free agent in 2010 is your idea of an “ingredient for success,” then I don’t know what to tell you. Walsh and D’Antoni have been tanking this team and throwing away all playoff potential since they came to New York–real Knick coaches/managers would NEVER do that.
    Do you think Jeff Van Gundy would lock Latrell Sprewell on the bench and hope for a better player come free agency? You use what you have; you don’t waste two years NOT rebuilding, waiting to rebuild in 2010; not after 10 years of Isiah Thomas/Dolan.

  • http://www.sixers.com 360vue

    @MikeC I don’t think anyone blamed Mike for being responsible for Marbury’s lack of fulfilment as a player. I did say he was at fault in the “Marbury fiasco”. He handled that situation completely wrong. He basically took one player, Duhon, who was managing 4pts and 4 assists in 20+ mpg, whilst making someone who got 16/5/3/1 in 35+ mpg, one with shocking FG%, the other with a much more respectable FG even though he took a relatively high number of shots for a point. Basically, he pretended that Duhon had trumped Marbury in practice, but in fact he b!tched out and wanted Marbury away from his new team because of what he represented (the old stagnate, individualised Knicks team) and didn’t dare do tell him to his face he wanted team-orientation and the point has to be at the hub of that. WTF?! GROW SOME NUTS, YOU’RE THE COACH. Mike is a fast becoming a phoney. Oh and the majority of your comment is farcical, although some good points were made, but I mean this;
    “Walsh and D’Antoni might be the only keepers in the entire organization at this point.” REALLY? Walsh was exceptional in Indiana, Mike was exceptional in Phoenix. But they are NOT keepers in the Knicks org. Only the fans who have stuck through them this decade are

  • http://www.twitter.com/Th3_R3al_Chris Th3_R3al_Chris

    Didn’t the Knicks trade their draft picks this year? Tanking is pointless in that case, right? Stern should let New York and New Jersey throw their “best players” onto the same team and send everyone else to the D-League. Maybe then they’d at least offer a competitive, if not successful, product.

  • http://www.gmail.com rushmelo

    the new york knicks are the worst team in the NBA.
    Mike D’antoni is the only man in the whole franchise who has a brain which works.
    think about it…what the hell happened to jordan hill?
    wasn’t he supposed to be a great role player this year?
    the thing is…the knicks have too much attention around them to deal with and dont know how to.
    LeBron james is already a major part of the knicks without even being a part of they’re franchise.And as far as Nate is concerned.i do not agree with D’antoni this time.yes he does not get back on D and celebrates every shot like its the game winner…but whatever it is he atleast has the enthusiasm to play.all the other knicks are just lost, thinking of 2010 free agency.feel bad for their franchise.
    man on paper they dont suck totally.they should be doing well.
    gallinari has improved a lot.
    Lee and harrington are the most stable players on that roster.
    and chris duhon.NO COMMENTS.
    knick’s starting five should be
    SF.Al harrington
    SG.toney douglas
    PG.larry hughes
    the new york bench is under tremendous pressure as of now cuz’ they’re starting guards suck.(duhon)
    you cannot expect a second unit come in and erase a 20 point deficit and blame them for not doing so.
    AND yes

  • burnt_chicken

    it’ll be a sad day when russ stops posting.

  • ConeyIslander

    I’m waiting for commissioner Stern to fire the Knicks organization!

  • jrb

    poor nate

  • Ryan Ahmed

    Nate is a great 6th man for New York and can come in during clutch situations and win you the game.In my opinion, Duhon should be benched and not Nate. Duhon is shooting about 20% which is inexcusable for an NBA player. Nate should be the back up PG and Duhon shouldn’t play. D’antoni is nuts.

  • chintao

    No defense, lots of offense… wait, D’Antoni has a problem with that? Ironic. Also, with the Knicks on pace to lose 50 games, why shouldn’t Nate at least get a little excited about his own game? He could have played lockdown defense on his man every possession, and the Knicks still would have lost. Fire D’Antoni.