Wednesday, January 13th, 2010 at 12:50 pm  |  35 responses

Jazz Won’t Give Away Boozer So Easily

by Marcel Mutoni / @marcel_mutoni

From everything that’s been written and said, we were made to understand that Carlos Boozer was as good as gone from Utah. The Jazz weren’t willing to meet his salary demands (and most importantly, they want to be under the luxury tax line by this summer), and it was only a matter of time before Boozer left for greener pastures.

While that may still be the case (he becomes an unrestricted free agent on July 1st), it doesn’t mean that Jazz management is going to give him away easily. You’re going to have to come with a whopper of a deal for Utah to trade the big man.

According to ESPN, the Dallas Mavericks learned this lesson recently:

Utah general manager Kevin O’Connor loudly insisted Monday that those of us who presume that the Jazz will do anything they can to get under the luxury-tax line between now and June 30 have it way wrong. The Dallas Mavericks got the same message when they tested Utah’s resolve early last week.

The Mavs made a long-shot attempt to convince Utah to part with Carlos Boozer by proposing an all-about-money trade that would have provided the Jazz with another sizable chunk of payroll relief to follow up the significant savings from their recent swap with Oklahoma City, ESPN.com has learned. Yet sources close to the situation say that the Jazz weren’t about to be tempted.

Since they claim that the luxury tax isn’t the most important factor at the moment, it bears noting that Utah and Houston are currently tied for the last Playoff spot in the Western Conference.

We’ll see how long management in Utah holds on to this particular group of players, at the price they’re paying for them.

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  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Funny how Zach Randolph’s name is slandered everywhere for having a bad attitude, but Boozer is still considered an elite forward.

  • http://www.twitter.com/NotebookNick thesubwayconnection

    I wonder what he’s like as a teammate when the cameras aren’t around.

  • LA Huey

    Boozer seems like a chill guy but how much do you think Deron, Sloan, and other Jazz players feel about playing with a mercenary when they want to win so bad?

  • tavoris

    Why try to pry away Booz with a whopper contract when there are other HEALTHIER players who can be had for similar (or less) money?

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Boozer is healthy, and averaging 20 and 10. If the Mavs or any contender got him, especially without giving up much, it would greatly increase their chances of beating the lakers.

  • Royal

    Z-BO is and always has been on his level or better

  • http://www.need4sheed.com Tarzan Cooper

    if they dont trade him, they wont resign bald betrayal dude. also, evil parrot face. that is all.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Z-Bo has never had to compete with anyone for touches. Boozer is better, he is doing what Z-Bo does on a playoff team w/ less shots and less minutes

  • tavoris

    hmm Z-Bo has never had to compete for touches? really? Hell, he’s competing for touches RIGHT NOW in Memphis.
    In all actuality, they are both good interior scorers with decent mid-range games. Both or HORRIBLE defenders. Boozers “appears” to be a better teammate because he hasn’t gotten into any off-court trouble. However, there isn’t much opportunity to get into trouble in UTAH anyway.

    I’d say that Booz is a more dependable scorer, Randolph is a better rebounder, and neither is better than the other.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Marc Gasol is scoring 14 on 9 attempts. SO yes Z-Bo does not have to compete for touches

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Carlos Boozer is a better Rebounder and Z-Bo is a better scorer actually – But Boozer has always shot a higher % w/ Less TO’s, Fewer Shots, and Better Defensive Numbers

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    lol its obvious who’s better actually

  • tavoris

    @nbk-I guess u didn’t notice Mayo and Gay trying to out-gun each other during every game. Gasol & Randolph controlling the glass on both ends is the primary reason they’ve been winning. That limits the D’s posessions, in addition to getting their team extra touches every game.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Actually Z-Bo shoots his 16 shots per game. Just like the rest of his career. – Although he is averaging 4.6 ORB which is a huge upgrade from previous seasons, but that can be attributed to Mayo and Gay shooting long jumpers.

  • http://thegoodpoint.com Sam Joynt

    Does no one remember the circumstances around Boozer’s exit from Cleveland? He’s all about the benjamins as evidenced by his free agent signing with Utah in the first place. It’s not about being part of a contender, or the location or anything else. Regardless of whether he’s traded or not, he’ll land wherever he’s shown the most free agent love ($$$$$) next summer.

  • vmcb

    Boozer gets it done, but I’ve never been a big fan. Either way, unless the Jazz are worried about losing Boozer without compensation, I don’t see why they’d want to trade him, even if he’s become a distraction. He’s too good to just get rid of, even if Millsap is a more-than apt replacement.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Boozer is leaving this summer regardless. So they either trade him now, sign-n-trade this summer, or let him walk

  • tavoris

    nbk-long jumpers don’t lead to offensive rebounds…the ball bounces far when it travels from afar. Have you ever actually PLAYED basketball?

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    exactly why long rebounds are more easily had by an offensive player moron. A defensive players job is to position himself between his man and the basket. SO short rebounds should in theory go to defensive players. have you ever played basketball because i am about to celebrate year 20 playing the sport

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    you should know that “coach”

  • http://www.slamonline.com Wayno

    haha, long rebounds don’t lead to offensive rebounds…that’s almost as good as allenp saying that it doesn’t take any talent to be a good defensive player.

  • http://yahoo.com greg1

    @Wayno. There is a better chance the offense will get the rebound on a longer shot than the defense. since the D is boxing out

  • http://www.slamonline.com Wayno

    yep…that’s what I was agreeing with…sorry if that was unclear.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    he knew that, hence him “laughing” at the beginning

  • http://www.luketynan.blogspot.com litetitan

    you guys must shoot a LOT of bricks if your 3 point shots/deep twos are rebounding almost back to you…

  • http://www.slamonline.com Wayno

    ^^^ and you must be assuming alot of things about us to make that statement…

  • tavoris

    i implore any of u pundits to check out the top 5 offensive rebounding teams in the L. How many of them are also in the top 5 in threes attempted? ONE (Houston). Long jump shots lead to fast break opportunities for the OTHER team, not offensive rebounds.

  • http://www.realcavsfans.com Anton

    Until you get traded you big baby.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Boozer leaving is NOT that bad for the Jazz. If Utah releases Boozer they can just develop PAUL MILLSAP, who has been waiting for like 3 freaking years to break out. Man, Millsap can be just as good if not better than Boozer, but he doesn’t get the playing time. He’s a safer bet than Boozer, I’ll tell you that, even if he doesn’t rack up as many stats (which he probably will eventually).

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    I actually agree with tavoris here. I think its a myth that most offensive rebounds are long shots. They’re certainly easier to get IF the ball bounces directly TO you, but that rarely happens–usually, the defender grabs it first (because they’re between you and the hoop). I agree, the other team gets the ball a lot easier without having to box the crap out of their man on jumpers, and can fast break from there.
    Most offensive rebounds come in the PAINT, especially off of missed layups or blocks. Putbacks are all rebounds first. Also, offensive rebounds are easily padded in the stats by big men like Dwight who miss close-range shots but catch them right away, and then repeat a bunch of times before finally making it.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Okay let’s make this clear. A long shot or jumper does NOT mean a long rebound. Most jumpshots ARC to the hoop so they float more vertically than horizontally on the way down–in other words, unless a guy shoots it way short or way long, or flat out airballs it, the defense boxing out will always have the advantage of getting the rebound.

  • matt

    Teams that think they can poach him for nothing are badly mistaken. If they wanted, however, to trade all-stars, the jazz would listen.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Offensive Rebounds in a half court set, are more often from longer jump shots. A)Because the ball bounces harder off the rim B)The further the ball goes the more likely the defense will be out of position C) Closer shots mean MORE defenders. D) This is common knowledge if you know anything about basketball. In a different situation such as w/ phoenix where you rarely have the team even attempting to rebound your numbers will be low.
    Oh and long jump shots are more often missed then close range shots, which also attributes to the likely hood that they will be grabbed by the offense – I mean if you can’t see the obvious. What Teddy said is true, there are players like dwight who get their own offensive rebounds, which is true, but there are still less of those then crap rebounds off long jumpers. Ever notice how ben wallace slaps EVERY offensive rebound he can get a hand on out to the 3pt line? or am i the only person that comments and watches every team outside of my hometown?

  • tavoris

    @nbk-u don’t get it, and you are never gonna get it(only because I’m the one raising the point). The fact is your explanation is supported by no statistical proof, while also going against any logic. So, I’ma let it go….if u think ur right, then ur right.

  • 4three

    @nbk – lol