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Monday, January 4th, 2010 at 10:30 am  |  70 responses

Phil Jackson Unhappy With All-Star Voting

Sigh. Get in line, Phil: “Pau Gasol is fourth among Western Conference forwards in All-Star voting, trailing Carmelo Anthony,  Dirk Nowitzki and  Tim Duncan, but Jackson doesn’t care. In fact, he seems to be losing faith in the voting system. ‘I think Houston might have all their players in the top five at every position,’ Jackson said. ‘That Chinese fan group, they vote for the Houston team because of Yao Ming and their relationship to Houston. It’s all skewed.’ Jackson’s only partly correct. Tracy McGrady is second among West guards, but Aaron Brooks is sixth among guards, Trevor Ariza is sixth among West forwards and Luis Scola is seventh among forwards. Jackson had one more complaint. ‘Allen Iverson, Tracy McGrady … they haven’t even played this year,’ he said. ‘Allen’s played a few games so it’s kind of askew to suggest that the voting is something to count on.”‘

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  • Yesse

    I really agree with this, but how do you create a filter for nba.com, that stupid people wouldnt vote?

  • http://slamonline.com/ niQ

    Meh, it’s been like this since day one. Go figure. The only way you can change it is let the coaches and/or players vote.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    You know what, all-star voting doesn’t bother me anymore. If the fans want to see the whole Houston Rockets squad + AI… well, let them. ASG is for the fans. They should let the fans select all 12 guys. That way, it would be clear that it’s not based on merit but appeal. All-NBA teams is what should matter anyways.

  • http://slamonline.com walt williams

    its just all skewed and apparently askew also..

  • http://www.myspace.com/reignMD T-Boog

    Agreed, glad someone spoke up!

  • Jake

    The All-Stars should be chosen by a panel of journalists in my opinion.It would still be fan driven,but there would be some sensible decisions made.I love T-Mac and AI,they are two of my favorite players ever but did they get a vote from me?Hell no.

  • http://slamonline.com/ niQ

    Nvm, Z is right.

  • jumpman3224

    I kinda wish he wouldnt have said this right before Houston comes to LA (tuesday night).

  • http://www.basketbrasil.com.br Rubens Borges

    I talked with Russ over at twitter and he agreed, you should get some scrub to the ASG just so the NBA would think about changing the voting system…

  • edmalhas

    AI and TMac in the ASG just shows that the system is broken.

  • cramzy

    they should just let Stern appoint allstars like he does when someone gets hurt.

  • james

    phil jackson also apparently loves the word skewed and its variants…

  • Lz – Cphfinest 3

    Considering that Stern once appointed Chris Gatling an All-Star I think that is a really bad idea Cramzy.

  • Lz – Cphfinest 3

    The players and coaches should vote for the All-Stars imo.

  • bakers’ dozen

    Phil didn’t seem to care when players like Horace Grant were getting ASG nods over players like Kevin Willis and Charles Oakley. Nothing against Ho-Grant, but his brother Harvey had better numbers for most of his career and never made the ASG.

  • bakers’ dozen

    Carification: In the years HO made the ASG with Chicago Harvey was better…HO had a better overall career though, and was great with Orlando in his role.

  • http://coco-vents.blogspot.com Co Co

    I just voted for AI and T-Mac. Why? Because I can. :D

  • http://www.another48minutes.com Gerard Himself

    What they should change is that you can’t vote til January 1st, and that every player should at least played in 20 games up til that point.

  • http://www.ballislife.com Arek

    who cares about the top 5? usuall the fans vote atleast 8/10 players in right

  • ferrarigto

    Is this a new problem or something? Everyone’s been complaining about the bs all-star voting for years. I agree with you Phyllis but you are a little late to the party!

  • NAS

    All star voting should be done like the NFL; with fans, coaches and players all voting and having an equal say; @Z when we decide if a player should go into the hall of fame or not we look at their all star appearances;

  • ENDS

    Vincent Askew is on the Ballot? maybe he plays for the rockets

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Nice Co Co. Well done!

  • ENDS

    if your under 27 years please google that last joke

  • Sporting-Lisbon-Blazers

    well said Pjack

  • NJ4Life

    You know what the NBA needs? Weighted Voting. So the fans influence like say 49% of the vote or whatever. Whatever it takes for coaches and players to be able to overrule nonsense selections.

  • MagicChicken

    Sure Ivey hasn’t played that much, but come on, he’s one of the most phenomenal players of our time, and even though he’s gotten some hate recently, I’d still rather have him in the ASG over some of the other chump guards out there. Admit it, he’s awesome! This is the only way he’ll make it on the roster too, and you know it! T-Mac on the other hand … I mean he’s lost some awesome factor for me, in the fact that he’s been injured for so long, and he hasn’t done anything remarkable of late. Frankly, I kinda think less of him cuz of the way he botched th “momment” in the ’04 (or was it ’05)? ASG in Houston. On his home floor, playing a heck of a game alongside Kobe (who actually passes up the last shot), last second shot to win it all, and he misses. His Careers been downhill since then…. Anyways folks, if you don’t like it, vote for them to lose by selecting the dude in 2nd place. In this case, Carter and Nash. I still rally for Iverson though, cuz Carter’s also kind of a bore to watch these days.

  • JD

    Thank u Phil!

  • d.j.

    suck a fat one phill hahaha… i just voted for t-mac and A.I. too, you know why ? it was out of respect… And so none of your other scrubs from the faker team would make it… but it dont really matter anyways cause the East will win the all* game because the best player in the NBA plays for the East !

  • http://www.stonesthrow.com/madlib Michael NZ

    Askew for two! Under 27 and I remember.

  • http://www.stonesthrow.com/madlib Michael NZ

    ‘Fans’ are alarmingly stupid.

  • Tower

    It’s all Yao’s fault…

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  • http://www.broy7.com nate the great

    how about no zach randolph….

  • Sporting-Lisbon-Blazers

    now thats a man cruch tarzan cooper.

  • Bob D

    Em fan voting? System isn’t broken, people vote for who they want to see not who’s the best, simple concept

  • http://www.sixers.com 360vue

    maybe nba should limit each user to just one vote, maybe two; one when it opens and one closer to the deadline as form can change. then how about some serious marketing weight proppin the AS as a game to see the cream of the East versus the cream of the West, to watch the very best against each other. the AS has lost its presence as being the top of the L, its been about favourite for a while. especially since Yao arrived. Seriously flawed when some people are having career years and muppets are selecting ballers who havent played much if at all.

  • Buschfiya

    and everyone forgets about chris bosh because he plays for toronto… 20 and 10 player night in night out he should be in the east starting lineup.

  • Chris

    The all-star game is clearly a popularity contest and there’s nothing wrong with that. If the fans want to see Allen Iverson or Cal Ripken Jr. or Yao Ming or Ichiro Suzuki, then let them. If you want to make the all-star game legit, where the players are chosen by coaches, then you’ll get the NFL Pro Bowl, where the players are chosen by coaches and no fans care about it.

  • Scruffz

    And people care this much about an exhibition game because……….?

  • http://www.stonesthrow.com/madlib Michael NZ

    Besides, we’re forgetting that the All Star game sucks.

  • LA Huey

    Chris, Pro Bowl sucking has nothing to do with the voting process. It’s because everybody afraid of getting injured so nobody plays hard. The nba equivalent would be dudes jogging down on a fast break or every player taking set shots.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Pardeep

    LOL stop complaining about T-Mac starting he already said he would give his spot to Nash or someone else. SO SUCK A FAT ONE PHIL!

  • ASTEK

    agreed!

  • K.K.

    I respect AI in all but he has barely played so I don’t think he should be in the Allstar Game. Philly had to have had a whole voting committee to pull this one off

  • http://seriously.anything.works.here Dave

    Don’t know if I should high-five or punch Co Co for that.
    But I say Starbury to start for the East.

  • http://www.luketynan.blogspot.com litetitan

    Zac Randolph times a THOUSAND. is easier on the eyes.

  • http://dsjfhklf.com Jukai

    F this “All-Star should be for fans” crap.
    Coaches around the L pick the starting five for each side.
    FANS pick the remaining seven for a month.
    Therefore, the deserving STARTERS get picked legitimately, and then only the bench players can be screwed up. I don’t care if T-Mac or AI play, but they don’t deserve to start and get the biggest applauds.

  • kevin

    good thing the bench is picked by the coaches
    Monta Ellis 4 allstars!
    Monta Ellis 4 allstars!
    Monta Ellis 4 allstars!

  • robb

    I agree Jukai. I mean, the festivities are for fans to enjoy and that’s what “All Star should be for fans” should be about, but fans shouldn’t pick the starters because most fans aren’t objective. Democracies don’t work when people are that ignorant.

  • http://www.twitter.com/PDXGayBball dma

    or maybe let the fans only vote 2 players in one for each conference.

  • Johnson

    fans should get to choose the starters out of a group of players selected by the entire league of players and coaches that cannot vote for a player of their own team. It would give fans a chance to see who players in the league regard as their most worthy stars and allow great players who don’t get the notoriety of others the recognition they deserve. I think real fans of basketball would like to see who the players think are the best in the league.

  • Shem

    Hes right about houston and all but come on? Dirk, Duncan and Melo are right up there with Gasol so no complaint there

  • http://www.santabanta.com idontcare

    Phil Jackson can SUCK ONE. I never heard him complain when everyone from Lakers get selected.
    PHIL don’t be a HATER if you don’t have any votes for your gay ass Pao

  • http://www.luketynan.blogspot.com litetitan

    if players got to pick…I don’t think Kobe would make it

  • Ronald

    erm…you know this is obviously jackson talking out of turn. i remember the first year yao got voted in everyone cried foul. but then it came out that yao got more paper ballots votes and less internet votes throwing out the theory that the 6+ billion people voted for yao.

  • Flash

    if it werent for the fans theres no nba at all so give em wat they want. give them the players they know and loves to see play period.

  • Justin

    Nobody cares about the Pro Bowl because it’s played after the season. Gerard is right though, there should be limits set as to the minimum amount of games a person has played. At least you won’t see as many dumb vote-ins like this year. As for whomever said they voted TMac and AI out of respect, you don’t do that until it’s their last season. How about giving respect for what a player has done this year and not years past when they actually deserved to be there

  • http://myspace.com/weezyleezy337 GametimeWeezy

    my only question is if t-mac is being voted in because of all chinese fans, then why is yao ming or yi jianlang from the nets being voted in?

  • al

    vote for juwon howard…

  • Hoodsnake

    Isnt this cute. I think you americans should just accept the fact that the NBA is a GLOBAL league. Yeah i voted for mac cos i wanna see that alley oop off the backboard!(never liked iverson). The fans are the fans- whether you are American , Chinese or South African(me). ITS GLOBAL

  • al

    if its so global, then why aren’t you expanding your reach and voting for juwon horward? he played for the rockets, where’s your frikin’ global @$$ spirit? keep drinkin haterade.. juwon howard still loves you…

  • http://www.luketynan.blogspot.com litetitan

    one man stands alone, teetering on the edge of sanity. he looks for closure. he seeks reason. his purpose is one of redemption and justification. blood, sweat and tears are pured into this very activity. he reaches for what is within his grasp. he finds it. paper. manic his his desire now and so little is his time left. the moment passes. it is fleeting. his scrawl almost illegible. upon closer inspection the truth is revealed he write. a vote is cast: Juwan Howard…

  • al

    The All Star is done. Why not a US against rest of the world (all NBA players). That would be fun

  • BostonBaller

    What was wrong with what Jackson said? Skewed fit perfectly.The word means distorted. (Hence: bias, contort, falsify, misrepresent, etc etc) Therefore both words work in the context of ASG voting. Yes, ASG appearances do factor in who’s the best arguments which could sway HOF voting at some point. If fans keep voting in players who aren’t even playing or has lost a few steps just b/c they like them or can then it does get a bit shady. Either way I just want to see the game.

  • Orlando Woolridge

    Honestly, I don’t understand why people get so worked up about the ASG. It means pretty much nothing anyway. Everybody knows who really deserves it, so shouldn’t that be enough?

  • Yassi

    SHUT UP! PhilJ!!!

    of course something like that NEVER happened with the Lakers in favor.

    Just shut up already……

  • Yassi

    and NO its not skewed or distorted.
    If People use their opportunity that they were given by the system and vote within that system HOW ON EARTH can that be skewed? Jeeezzzzz….

  • al

    Juwon Howard!!!!
    Vote!

  • frank

    ultimately, it is about who the fans want to see. bottom line…. interesting idea: how about letting only the players and coaches be the ones who decide who plays in the all-star game??

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