Thursday, January 14th, 2010 at 11:00 am  |  80 responses

Sir Charles on Steroids in Sports

Barkley gives his typically unique and hilarious take on the situation: “First of all, I don’t care to be honest with you. It’s funny how the public wants to think that they are the greatest thing since sliced bread. I grew up on welfare in Alabama. If somebody told me that they could stick something in my ass to get me making 100 or 200 million dollars, I’m gonna be the first in line.  First of all, this stuff wasn’t illegal at the time. They weren’t even testing for it supposedly. If I could take a needle and start making 15 or 20 million dollars a year, of course I would do it. It bothers me when everybody wants to act like they’re so sanctimonious and so martyr. If some of these people are out there at the job and they know like I can get an injection, they’re not testing for it, it’s not illegal and I can make 10 or 20 million dollars a year or 2 to 300 million dollars of course they would do it!”

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  • J.Deneer

    The Best.

  • http://myspace.com/showbread Bryan

    F*ckin a.

  • http://www.twitter.com/JoshElam JE

    hahaha

  • LA Huey

    Amen. The problem I have is the general public doesn’t know anything about it except that it’s considered taboo but they’re willing to take a stance on the issue.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    Real talk. It wasn’t banned nor tested. What bothers me is the lying. In hindsight, woul have McGuire or any other slugger been worse off by fessing up right away? No.

  • riggs

    theyre so martyr?!?

  • tavoris

    Barkley is like that drunk uncle that’s always offensive, but also mostly CORRECT. Respect.

  • ball4life

    Does anyone think Charles took steroids himself??

  • Homie

    ball4life: the only steroids Chuck took would be the ones that were used to fatten up the numerous chickens, pigs and cows that gave their lives to make him the man he is today.

  • ball4life

    @Homie so i guess he technicaly did take steroids. if he gave them to the animals he ate. aha

  • http://slamonline.com Sam Rubenstein

    Oh and high school kids die and get emotional issues from them when they take them to be like the pro athletes that take them. Not a role model indeed

  • Hussman25

    He tells it like it is! U got to love Chuck!

  • tavoris

    @Sam-@ least Charles has been consistent on his stance.

  • Forrest Crunk

    Hey Sam, looks like you’re the same sanctimonious type Charles speaks of. If you knew anything about steroids, you’d know that high school kids aren’t exactly in the market to be able to purchase even one cycle’s worth of them, much less killing themselves with them. The notion that kids are running out and shooting up steroids because an athlete has been found to have used them is unrealistic at best. If you’re going to attack Charles with passive-aggressive fervor, attack him for the DUI, as alcohol has claimed the lives millions more of our high schoolers than steroids ever have or will.

  • http://fashionsensei.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/jackie-moon.jpg Jackie Moon

    Chuck is pissed at the system. He’s not hating the player, he’s hating the game. And he might be onto something.

  • http://myspace.com/showbread Bryan

    Pro athletes take steroids to heal better from injuries and increase stamina to be able to work out longer and harder. But they’re already pro athletes a 15 year old kid who takes steroids to bulk up to be like said pro athlete is a damn idiot and you can’t shirk the responsiblity onto pro athletes because they’re an easy target. Teach your kids common sense and to be realistic, and then we won’t have so many fools in the world running out to get a cycle of steroids at 15. Educate them on the cons of steroid use, but also discuss the very real pros, like how doctor prescribed steroids can do a lot of things for you. There is a time and a place for these things to be used, but in high school “to get an edge” is not one of them. This isn’t cocaine or heroin or even meth we’re talking about, which is funny because no one seems to b*tch about geezy calling himself the snowman and how that affects kids. Well I take that back people do b*tch about it but the built in excuse is “I’m not condoning it just spreading the news about it”. That’s the kind of sh*t we should be more concerned about, and again that falls on the parents and adults actually in the kids life to push him in the right direction. Celebrities of any stature don’t have the right be reckless but I don’t think they should be held to any higher standard than anyone else is, its unfair and its only done by people who are jealous that they don’t have the same life.

  • tavoris

    ^YES!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Peter

    What about the fact that its cheating…Charles is neglecting a little thing called ethics, which are inherent in business too. Some things are just ethically wrong even if they aren’t illegal…plus the guys he’s talking about were already making millions of dollars a year so his example isn’t exactly relevant.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Right or wrong, you have to love Chuck.

  • robb

    @ball4life that was some hilarious sh*t

  • http://myspace.com/showbread Bryan

    You’re cheating yourself, fans the team that pays you and everyone else if you don’t do everything in your power to stay healthy and earn the money that’s being shelled out for you. I don’t care what anybody says steroids did not help Barry Bonds hit .370 it may have helped his inflated HR totals due to more energy and better health but he hit .370 at 40 years old because he was that f*cking good. Roger Clemens did not throw the ball harder because of Steroids and Rashard Lewis did not shoot the ball better because of steroids. These things are talents that these people are blessed with and the only thing ‘roids did was keep them healthy and feelings well enough to compete at the highest level of their already inherent ability. I’m a pretty good basketball player by amateur standards, I can take a million cycles of steroids and hgh and works my ass and it won’t change my actual basketball ability to nba levels. I will never be any more than a good local rec league player and steroids or anything else will not help me be a better shooter,ballhandler, rebounder, passer, scorer or shotblocker. So exactly how is it cheating? Because you’re able to recover from injuries faster than your average third baseman? Because you’re able to stay healthier into your 40s and be able to compete with 25 year olds for a job that’s been yours while they were on their mothers t*t? Just like Chuck said, if someone came to you , Peter, and said if I inject this in you , you would be a millionaire you would sit on that needle so f*cking fast it would require surgery to get it out. Fortunatley steroids don’t work that way and guys like you and me will never be on that level no matter what the “experts” tell you. Where would your moral compass be then?

  • gigolo

    SIR CHarles: and this goes out to Floyd freaking f***ot Gayweather.!!!!

  • Los

    If you’re not cheating, you’re not trying hard enough.

  • gigolo

    sir charles:this goes out to floyd gayweather.

  • Los

    @bryan you dont think roids make football players stronger? Increasing the probability of injury?

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Bryan: Steroids didn’t help Barry Bonds bat .370, but they sure helped him knock 72 f*cking steroid-enhanced home runs. Steroids are bullsh!t, and I don’t give a sh!t what Charles Barkley says about it.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Bryan, obviously the athlete has to be at a reasonably good level to be successful as a pro with these drugs, but that doesn’t change a damn thing. A forty-year old NBA player has already played for a long time in the league–how does it not make sense that a 25 year old get a shot in the league? How is that unfair?
    And you and Chuck can pitch whole “You’d use steroids too” bullsh!t to take away from the reality of the situation, but bottom line: steroids ARE cheating. People aren’t paying money to see who can MANUFACTURE the best athlete. Athletes aren’t training their @sses off to see who can chemically and artificially create the best player. Are you actually trying to defend the use of performance-enhancing drugs?
    Sh!t, if GM’s were given the option of genetically engineering athletes, or better yet CLONING them, we’d have twelve Michal Jordans on each team. Hey, why should prime Michael Jordan leave the league that’s “HIS” (as you put it) when some 22 year old rookie hasn’t played a full season yet? That’s your logic, right?
    No.

  • Cizzo

    Whoa!!!!!

  • http://myspace.com/showbread Bryan

    Luckily you have no credibility teddy sooo yeah.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    That made me laugh.

  • Peter

    If someone told me I could take steroids and make the NBA, sure I would…but you said yourself, Bryan, that this wouldn’t happen. So if someone told me, you’re a great baseball player making millions already(I don’t believe steroids help in basketball, aside from injury recovery maybe), take some steroids and you could be even better…I would think twice about it…which is how these things have played out. And you can’t argue steroids didn’t help Barry’s hitting…I mean come on.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    No offense intended by the swearing, of course.

  • http://myspace.com/showbread Bryan

    Did it really help him hit the ball more? It improved his :eyesight, hand eye coordination, timing brain?

  • http://myspace.com/showbread Bryan

    This is my point about steroids. Everyone has a peak level of ability they can reach. You can’t be any better than your peak physical ability which is why its a peak. So the fact is Bonds and everyone else had the physical ability to do these things at peak physical health and conditioning. Steroids helps with those two things, not grants you extra ability or superhuman strength. You can disagree I don’t really care there isn’t a substance that can push your strength or ability past your bodily limitations there just isn’t.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Interesting discussion.

  • http://www.michaelcho.com M Cho

    I don’t begrudge an athlete for taking steroids, for the same reasons Barkley mentioned. The pressure would be huge. But, the flipside is that they better be willing to accept the sh*t they’re gonna get from the public – and the stain on their rep after they retire. That’s part of the package. I don’t wanna hear any more athletes whining and crying on TV, acting like a f*cking victim. You can’t have all the benefits and none of the downside. Thinking that you can would be stupid and immature.

  • seppo

    everyone should be allowed to take steroids. it´s a free country. it´s as simple as that, in my opinion.

  • tavoris

    Teddy-you DO know that this discussion has very little to do with the NBA, don’t you? That changes the dynamic tremendously. Basketball has a completely different culture than other amatuer sports(some of which do encourage & promote steroid use). That difference (coupled with the ineffectiveness of steriods to basketball-type athleticism) makes is unproductive for players to use them.

    Chuck’s problem with this is that it was banned after the fact, which makes erasing the culture not only difficult, but also unrealistic.

  • tavoris

    @M Cho-your opinion is exactly what Chuck is saying. Do what u do, but be prepared to own up to it if u get caught breaking the rules.

  • http://dfinney0415@yahoo.com KR

    I ain’t injecting nuthin in my ass…

  • L

    Chuck is my hero….

  • Peter

    Bryan that doesn’t even make sense. Right now my bodily limitations stop me from bench pressing 300 pounds…if I did strength training for a year straight I would increase that limit. If I took steroids while training, I would increase it even more. Obviously it will plateau at some point, but in terms of strength, steroids push the ceiling higher. Barry Bonds obviously had enormous talent already, but there’s no way he’s hitting 70+ home runs without the roids…it’s not that his maximum potential was predefined at 76 or whatever and he just needed steroids to reach his max…steroids increased his maximum.

  • http://myspace.com/showbread Bryan

    I had this whole long response typed out but instead ill stick with I disagree. Wholeheartedly.

  • LA Huey

    Since Anton isn’t around…”If somebody told me that they could stick something in my ass to get me making 100 or 200 million dollars, I’m gonna be the first in line.” Out of context, sounds like Chuck would be an eager male prostitute if it paid well.

  • pb

    Hey Bryan, I’ll give you this: You write a well-formulated grammatically correct sentence.
    That’s about all I’m gonna give you though because your arguments aren’t even worth arguing – they’re that absurd.

  • http://fashionsensei.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/jackie-moon.jpg Jackie Moon

    Reading comprehension, people. Chuck is not saying steroids are good, or that it’s OK to take steroids, he is saying that the incentives in place and the risk/reward ratio do not deter people from using them. Until there is enough of a disincentive to take them, certain people (not necessarily evil people) will continue to take them.

  • ilovekemp

    You all actin like fools with they pants on the ground, Kemp would never do this. Love.

  • http://fashionsensei.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/jackie-moon.jpg Jackie Moon

    Kemp needs to learn how to use contraceptives.

  • http://www.luketynan.blogspot.com litetitan

    I’ve seen the commercials. I KNOW they straight up manufactured steve nash.

  • http://www.luketynan.blogspot.com litetitan

    @EVERYONE: sorry, i try to read through teddy-the-bears comments and i can’t understand them. can someone translate?

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