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• James the Balla Posted: Jan.4 at 9:06 am
  Let me guess lol. Kobe stepped on the line? No, No, heee ummm didn’t jump high enough? or wait, he didn’t have a guy in his face so it wasn’t that hard of a shot? …. Come on Kobe haters lol give us some good excuses.

• zabba Posted: Jan.4 at 9:16 am
  Kobe had Phil’s dick in his mouth, that’s what happened.

• Moose Posted: Jan.4 at 9:18 am
  James getcha Kobe d*ckriding out of here….. haha

• James the Balla Posted: Jan.4 at 9:19 am
  lol @ Moose … Moose get out of here you Boston loving midget!!!

• Z Posted: Jan.4 at 9:23 am
  Bobcats match really well with Cavs. They can get anythign they want on iso’s on the perimeter. Bron has no clue how to defend Wallace. None. He’s the Andy V of perimeter guys, just floating around and crashing to the hoop.

• Bryan Posted: Jan.4 at 9:32 am
  Knicks!

• Kadavour Posted: Jan.4 at 9:48 am
  hmm, nice and honest Z, i like that. Tough game all around for the Cavs. Lets see if the Cats can keep it up

• James the Balla Posted: Jan.4 at 9:52 am
  Tough came when bron can’t hit the tieing 3!!! lol
  Cats are not going anywhere… again this season.
  But it is nice to see Toronto playing good as of late.

• roman Posted: Jan.4 at 9:58 am
  come on Lebroom- Shaq bought you a Phantom for your birthday. You are suppose to make the game winning 3. Yeah right

• Z Posted: Jan.4 at 10:09 am
  Here’s my problem with the NBA sometimes: the game-tying 3-pointer was LeBron’s shot, he is the best player on the team and he’s entitled to that shot. How does that make sense when you have three guys on the team in the top 10 for 3fg% ?!

• The Seed Posted: Jan.4 at 10:14 am
  Kobe does it again, three game winners, sounds like the MVP, and in his 14th year in the league still can lead the league in points per game, while getting 5 board and 5 assits, (while playing in the triangle offense). Lebron fans hope in his 14th year he can do what Kobe is doing. KOBE IS SIMPLY THE BEST, AND WILL NOT REST until he adds to his ring collection.

• Hisham Posted: Jan.4 at 10:19 am
  @ James: that motherf*cker Kobe pushed sergio rodriguez to get open that shouldve been a f(ckin foul on kobe are you serious NBA WTF?? Kidding great shot. I still hate Kobe though..

• Hisham Posted: Jan.4 at 10:21 am
  why the hell was that little guy rodriguez on him anyway? greene would’ve done a much better job defending that play. wouldn’t have stumbled 10 feet in the wrong direction after that little kobe shove either…

• Kadavour Posted: Jan.4 at 10:28 am
  @ Hisham: that play by Kobe was legit. He set a down screen on Sergio for Pau, Sergio and Udoka was expecting him to run to the ball (really a brilliant play) and Kobe popped off the screen amid the Kings’ confusion. @ Z: i was saying THE SAME THING. I don’t get how Mo or Parker or Boobie didn’t get that shot. This superstar sh-t is going too far. MJ used to give GW treys to Kerr and Paxson.

• TADOne Posted: Jan.4 at 10:39 am
  Kobe pushed off. Even Kobe lovers can’t be that blind.

• Simon S.Y Lawy Posted: Jan.4 at 10:49 am
  Those who said kobe push sergio is completely blind, watch the video and STFU, hater …

• Darksaber Posted: Jan.4 at 11:09 am
  Hish just made me laugh like a hyena, great comments. Anyone expecting a foul call in that situation hasn’t been watching this league for long, nba posterchildren get away with murder on the court. Sergio did indeed look like he was in a pinball machine, get pushed,stumble left, stumble right, look utterly foolish as Mambiatch (thats right, it’s a new year, my hate affair with Kob’s has resurfaced) drained the utterly coldblooded 3 in your mug. Bravo. A big freaking bravo to the Mavs too, Kob’s decides to chill and distribute and you get spanked like THAT?! Argh. Landry’s teeth seem to have taken a bite outta Dirk’s hot hand of late, looks way more pedestrian out there lately.

• vtrobot Posted: Jan.4 at 11:09 am
  @ james: i was wondering about his heel and the line. it must have been close. i never ended up seeing a replay that showed it clearly. that would have been funny to get an out of bounds call on the shot. foam giveaways would have been raining down again.

• Darksaber Posted: Jan.4 at 11:13 am
  Oh how about that Dunantula cat, eh? Gathering 30 point games like he’s afraid they might go out of style.

• Kadavour Posted: Jan.4 at 11:13 am
  the replay is really funny, as Kobe is in the corner Paul Wesphal is just staring at his feet. He didn’t protest, so it was good

• AlbertBarr Posted: Jan.4 at 11:16 am
  Kobe MAY have pushed off but really, I dont think the play was for him. When he saw Rodriguez get lost in the confusion he jumped out to the line and drained the open look. I realy think the play was for whoever was coming off that screen and the Sergio just isnt a good defender and let Kobe shoot a wide-open practice shot. I am a Kings fan and was so excited to be in the game at the end and letting Kobe shoot that open look was just stupid on the kings part. We are a young team and we have played in a ton of close games in the last month and we really need to win some of them if we want to stay afloat in the conference. A few plays going in our favor and we could be at .500 instead of 5 games under. Damn you Kobe.

• AlbertBarr Posted: Jan.4 at 11:19 am
  and it was ridiculous how microscopically close Kobe’s heel was to the line and how close the ball was from not leaving his hands in time…it is like he tries to make it more difficult since he was wide open. Turning the knife slowly.

• TADOne Posted: Jan.4 at 11:19 am
  If someone would like to post the video, i’ll certainly watch it again.

• Spaceship Jay Posted: Jan.4 at 11:24 am
  Dark: Good to have you back, I missed your “Mambiatch” references. TAD: Yeah, he pushed off. As we all push off in basketball. Perhaps Rodriquez thought he was going to get an offensive foul call. Lol. Z: The craziest thing about that LeBron 3 is that he almost MADE that LeBron 3. I give credit where credit is due, but your boy still travels his @$$ off.

• James the Balla Posted: Jan.4 at 11:32 am
  vtrobot- They reviewed it for a long time. But the coach and ALL the players were looking ay his feet and none of them freaked out he was on the line, they all looked down, shot then went up, and they all looked and walked off the court. No complaints.
  He did a small push, and sergio tried to make a derek fisher like flop lol and ended up stumbling anyways and couldn’t catch up to Kob’s. MONEY!! lol … I think if ya’ll started to like Kobe he would have less fuel for that fire. But us Laker fans love it lol.

• Kadavour Posted: Jan.4 at 11:34 am
  word Jay, the basketball dictionary clearly states: Push off – See Miller, Reggie; Jordan “Money”

• TADOne Posted: Jan.4 at 11:38 am
  Let me clarify: no one said it wasn’t a good shot; it was a great shot. Regardless, Kobe pushed off. It wasn’t as blatant as when Jordan pushed off, but he did push off.

• TADOne Posted: Jan.4 at 11:39 am
  Anyway, i’m not trying to start off 2010 with a bunch of Kobe back and forth that goes nowhere.

• Kevin W Posted: Jan.4 at 11:44 am
  It’s 6 months away, but can’t wait for the Western conference playoffs man!
  The West seeds 2 through 9 are barely separated in the standings. It’s going to be tough to get through the West for LA or whoever comes through.
  1st round: You have to beat OKC
  2nd round: You have to beat San Antonio or Denver
  WCF: You have to beat Dallas or Portland? And then you get the Cavs or Celtics (who’ll be healthy by then) for the ring? Somebody is going to earn that damn ring this year!!

• Joel O's Posted: Jan.4 at 11:45 am
  Great shot by Kobe. What came before… questionable. Let’s try and ignore the fact that the guy setting the screen was Kobe (so whether we hate or love him, we can try and think logically instead of cursing each other for silly reasons), and examine a few things. 1.) Look at Sergio’s reaction – he gets thrown way backward after the contact. This means he was either flopping, or was shoved backward. 2.) MORE IMPORTANTLY, look at the screen that Kobe set – you’re supposed to “set” your feet on a screen and have the opposing player move into you. Was Kobe’s feet set on that screen, or was he still moving? If his feet were set, it’s a perfectly legal pick and pop. If his feet weren’t, and he was still moving or had momentum, then it’s an illegal shove. 3.) LOOK at the video once more; his feet WEREN’T set when his upper body made contact with Sergio. Kobe was still moving. 4.) Hence, Kobe hit a great shot, but if he were a lesser name, he might not have gotten away with that illegal screen.

• Joel O's Posted: Jan.4 at 11:46 am
  @TADOne: Why does it get this way every time Kobe is involved? Does being a fan of his mean suspending reason?

• Joel O's Posted: Jan.4 at 11:47 am
  @TADOne: Why does it have to always be this way whenever Kobe is involved? Does being a fan of his mean suspending reason?

• Joel O's Posted: Jan.4 at 11:49 am
  Anyway, my point is this. There’s nothing wrong with the shot. The shot was legit and clutch. But the screen he set before that was a very grey area at best, since he was still moving when he made contact with Sergio. Had he been a less famous player, he wouldn’t have gotten the benefit of the call, and it might’ve been a turnover.

• TADOne Posted: Jan.4 at 11:51 am
  Joel: not sure, but Kobe haters also come up with idiotic reasoning as well. I’m partial; I don’t like the man but I know how good he is at basketball.

• AlbertBarr Posted: Jan.4 at 11:51 am
  nice analysis Joel O. I just dont think it would have been called no matter who it was. No ref wants to decide a game with an illegal screen call that was borderline.

• TADOne Posted: Jan.4 at 11:59 am
  I was just surprised the Kings were playing so well without Reke playing. I forget who the Kings coach is now but he should be the leading COY candidate along with Adelman.

• Hisham Posted: Jan.4 at 12:08 pm
  Um Joel, technically, there WAS something wrong with the shot: Kobe travelled. He caught the ball, established his pivot foot and then jumped to set his feet. Everybody does it in the NBA, so i’m not complaining, just being a nerd and a pain. I just studied the replay again. Why was Kenny Thomas involved in this play? even worse: he was on Kobe to start the inbounds! more bad news: he switched on the pick, even though he saw that sergio was tumbling all over the court. GO CHALLENGE THAT SHOT FOOL! Westphal had the wrong guys in the gameat that point.

• Joel O's Posted: Jan.4 at 12:12 pm
  @TADOne: Right on. I just don’t get why for many of us it’s so hard to be fans without being completely blind to counter arguments.

• Hisham Posted: Jan.4 at 12:13 pm
  Well obviously the final play of the game wasn’t so geniously set up by Westphal, TAD.. But I agree he has them playing at a level much higher than anyone expected. I love how they respond to losing their star players. Very Houston Rockets-like.

• Joel O's Posted: Jan.4 at 12:14 pm
  @AlbertBarr: Fair enough, man. It always sucks when games hinge on a referee’s whistle, for most parties involved.

• Hisham Posted: Jan.4 at 12:20 pm
  I wish I could use paragraphs in my comments to make them look less like a rumbling rant

• Joel O's Posted: Jan.4 at 12:21 pm
  @Hisham: Yeah, he took a little hop, I agree. And there was definitely miscommunication on the part of the Kings’ defense at that point. I watched the vid again a coupla times after reading your comment; there’s 4 seconds left and no time for Kobe to make a pass to the slasher – Thomas HAS to go for the shooter, and instead he sagged off and was standing around in no man’s land.

• AlbertBarr Posted: Jan.4 at 12:23 pm
  Paul Westphal is doing a tremendous job…really a great coach for our guys. And as for the last play matchups in that game…why wasnt Donte Green on Kobe? I also dont understand why sergio was in the game at all…not really a defender, especially not going to be effective against Kobe or Gasol or Lamar who were all involved in that play.

• AlbertBarr Posted: Jan.4 at 12:26 pm
  And Beno was robbed of a chance at glory…his layup to take the lead before the Kobe shot was brilliant. Finally earning his paycheck in SACtown

• Allenp Posted: Jan.4 at 12:26 pm
  The Kings put Kenny Thomas on Kobe because they were anticipating a down screen by Gasol and wanted Thomas and Udoka to switch that screen and deny Kobe and easy catch. If you notice, Udoka is guarding Pau, who was supposed to set the screen for Kobe. Pau set his screen, but then it looked like the Lakes picked off Udoka with another man and forced Rodriguez to be aware and take Kobe. Instead, Rodriguez flopped when he was pushed, and gave Kobe a wide open shot in the corner.
  I don’t care how Kobe pushes you, you don’t fall down on that play. If you have to you grab Kobe and pull him down with you. You cannot be thinking flop, that’s unacceptable.
  Also, Iverson, despite his injury, looks good for Philly. If somebody would just give the other AI the same talk they gave Josh Smith, then the Sixers would be dangerous. And if they understood how to run Eddie Jordan’s offense.

• Hisham Posted: Jan.4 at 12:47 pm
  @AllenP: good analysis. That looked like it was the reasoning behind the Kings’ defense on the play, but doesn’t that seem like too much of a gamble? As I mentioned earlier, I thought Green (or maybe Udoka) should’ve been either on Kobe directly before the inbounds, or switching onto him after a pick. The kings really had the wrong players in there. Sixers gave me a scare there in the end. They almost gave the game away, which would’ve been inexcusable.

• Bryan Posted: Jan.4 at 12:52 pm
  Allenp once iverson really gets into game shape I think the sixers are gonna piss off a lot of teams.

• BronSlam Posted: Jan.4 at 1:12 pm
  Is it just me or is James BY FAR the most annoyin commentator on this sight… i mean yea, he hit a game winner, a wide open one against the Kings at home without tyreke. like its great for him, but the shlong riding is getting old buddy

• Anton Posted: Jan.4 at 1:14 pm
  Shaq needs more touches. He’s been getting more touches of Gilbert’s fiance than the basketball all season.

• BronSlam Posted: Jan.4 at 1:16 pm
  Ps. Traveling?!?

• James the Balla Posted: Jan.4 at 1:30 pm
  What can I say … I like “shlong”. Thanks for making me number 1 in your books.

• Lz - Cphfinest 3 Posted: Jan.4 at 1:39 pm
  I hate Kobe as much as the next man, but the shot was great and the push-off was to small to be called. But like someone mentioned there was one thing wrong with the play, Kobe travelled. I reckon that kind of traveling almost never gets called in the NBA (sadly) hence shouldn’t have been called by the referee. So I won’t complain about the legitimacy of the shot, it was good, he won the game fair enough (the Kingslost the game when Udoka missed 2 freebies just prior), but my point is this Kobe-riders: Just bear this play in mind next time you go ranting on us; for every LeBron Crab-dribble there is a Kobe Crab-hop.

• Arek Posted: Jan.4 at 1:41 pm
  for the record players push off at every single inbounds play and there’s rarely a foul called… stop hating

• Bryan Posted: Jan.4 at 1:43 pm
  Yo I don’t even care about the Kobe hate, the Lebron jocking or anything else right now. Its the new year the knicks look solid and the jets are in the playoffs everything else can s*ck it.

• Royal Posted: Jan.4 at 1:46 pm
  ha ha a person name BRONslam is taking about “shlong” riding
  Ps: How does LeBrons cum taste???

• Brad Long Posted: Jan.4 at 1:47 pm
  A guy who’s screen name is BronSlam is calling others out for “schlong riding”. You really can’t make this stuff up.

• Brad Long Posted: Jan.4 at 1:50 pm
  Sorry, Royal. I’m gonna call a Carlos Mencia on that one. By the way, your last name wouldn’t happen to be Ivey would it. Because that would be awesome.

• Lz - Cphfinest 3 Posted: Jan.4 at 1:57 pm
  Btw, Donte Greene and J. Thompson had just fouled out – that’s why Sergio and Kenny Thomas was in the game. Wasn’t Westphal’s fault, he was shorthanded.

• Royal Posted: Jan.4 at 2:04 pm
  Brad Long- lol nah. the funny thing is that i got picked on for a week when Hakim Warrick duncked on him in college

• Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Jan.4 at 2:07 pm
  @ Hisham: The last play wasn’t a travel. Kobe took one step as he got the ball and did a hopstep with two feet, planting there. Then he shot. If I’m not mistaken, in the NBA a hopstep counts as 1 step. So technically that wasn’t a travel… unless the rules are different and every player just does it.

• TADOne Posted: Jan.4 at 2:13 pm
  Why exactly is it “hating” when you call a play like you see it? This place gets really dumb sometimes.

• Niya-girl-fresh Posted: Jan.4 at 2:15 pm
  Lol @ people calling people who are fans of Kobe “D-ck riders” but when they are fans of favorite player or others are fans of other players other than Kobe they aren’t called anything other than fans or just don’t get picked on at all. Yall are so biased, and hateful lol *smh*

• Izzo Posted: Jan.4 at 2:21 pm
  *Looks in* *doesn’t bother*

• Lz - Cphfinest 3 Posted: Jan.4 at 2:21 pm
  I with TAD, it used to be SLAM online where America’s (and the world’s) best and brightest hoopheads came for discussing BBAll and other stuff, but within a year this place has morphed into DUMB online. Where clowns come to call names.

• Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Jan.4 at 2:24 pm
  I have no clue why Sergio Rodriguez would flop in a play like that. You KNOW the refs aren’t going to call an offensive foul in the last seconds of a game, especially when its Kobe (see: Michael Jordan). Also, Kobe didn’t even push him… They ran into each other and Kobe backed up, without any contact from his hands, and Sergio still decided he would flop and act like he was pushed. THEN, he loses his balance because he over-does the flop and leaves Kobe wide open for a 3. Swish. I felt bad the Kings after that… Omri Casspi was p!ssed off.

• Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Jan.4 at 2:26 pm
  Omri Casspi can play. The Kings have a nice young team right now. They almost beat the Lakers without Tyreke Evans… I’m liking Jason Thompson too. Even Spencer “I’m Conservative” Hawes had a career night.

• Lz - Cphfinest 3 Posted: Jan.4 at 2:41 pm
  Casspi can definetly play, and if Bynum is an All-Star (which I don’t think he is)so is Hawes. Jason Thompson had a very poor game though, fouled out with 0 points and absolutely no influence on the game.

• Joey E. Posted: Jan.4 at 2:56 pm
  Lionel Hollins for COY. and lol Mavs losing by 35 to a lakers team without Artest, Pau for most of the game, and kobe only scoring 15

• Pardeep Posted: Jan.4 at 2:58 pm
  Kobe’s clutch has gotten to a point where I have gotten bored of watching him hit game winners every month. I think he is going to finish as the most clutch player the league has ever seen and the clutch he has is one of the reasons why he is still better then Bron. Kobe for MVP 2010.

• Reflex Posted: Jan.4 at 2:58 pm
  lol!, Kobe can’t do anything right in some people eyes. No one talking about how weak Sergio was in guarding him or how Gasol should have been fouled once he received the pass but instead stay hatin’ (I tried not to use this word but it is what it is) on an all time top 10 player. Then to top it all off ‘Bronslam’ is calling people out for dickriding?! Really?! 2010 is fun. ——- On other matters, I’m mad happy the biggest boss that you’ve seen thus far, i.e. KDurant, is showing us that he truly is franchise. 6 straight 30+ games (no jacking either, 22 shots per), 7 rbs, 5 wins out of 6 and so much scope for improvement. The OKC management need to spend some have that surplus cap money on an inside post player (Boozer?, Bosh?) otherwise we could have another CP3/KG at Minny with great talent being wasted. Also, nice to see the Lakers bench & Bynum FINALLY contribute,it’s only taken…the whole frickin’ season!! but there might be some life on that bench after all. I hope it wasn’t a one-off.

• Bryan Posted: Jan.4 at 3:10 pm
  Lebron is way better in the clutch check his $tat$.

• Z Posted: Jan.4 at 3:16 pm
  Funny thing is Bron has been the NBA leader in game winning baskets with less than 24 secs for the last couple of years. However, he trails Kobe by a lot in fade-away buzzer beaters. 10 to 2. Is a game winning basket more important when the buzzer sounds while the ball is still in the air? You tell me. Bron’s first option in crunch time is always to drive the lane which kinda negates the possibility of a buzzer beater.

• Gary Posted: Jan.4 at 3:17 pm
  On to the Kobe travelling part, I am not sure but wasn’t the NBA rules changed prior to the start of the season, that a player is allowed to take 3 steps after he receive a pass?

• rainman10 Posted: Jan.4 at 3:21 pm
  @ Bryan, I don’t check the $tats I watch the games.

• Z Posted: Jan.4 at 3:23 pm
  Of course, the Kobe fans don’t want to hear anything about stats. Kobe is clutch, that’s undeniable. But so is Bron, Melo, Dirk, Ray Allen, Pierce and (surprisingly) Vince. Wow, I was tricked by the perception that I had of Vince’s play in the clutch. And of course, if you ask any coach who he’d want to take the last shot, he’d say Kobe. But that has as much to do with belief/faith as actual outcome.

• Z Posted: Jan.4 at 3:29 pm
  Kobe’s fg% on potential game-winning shots with less than 24 seconds to go in the last 5 years : .250. But nevermind stats.

• Eboy Posted: Jan.4 at 3:34 pm
  Maybe I’ll keep vacationing from the site until 2011.

• BETCATS Posted: Jan.4 at 3:36 pm
  If the Cavs get matched up against us in the first one, watch out. I have faith we would win that series and Lebron would leave Cleveland, embarresed as hell, and end up in NJ or NY.

• BETCATS Posted: Jan.4 at 3:38 pm
  EBOY! I havent been in a comment section with you since i speled tings like dis.

• Aaron Posted: Jan.4 at 3:39 pm
  Find a Kobe stat for the last 5 sec and see that percentage skyrocket. And while you do that I’ll watch the games instead of stat-checking.

• BETCATS Posted: Jan.4 at 3:41 pm
  Aaron what game are you watching at 3:40 in the afternoon?

• Eboy Posted: Jan.4 at 3:47 pm
  What’s up, BET. Your boys are getting better. I heard a rumor Haslem might be going to Charlotte for DJ.

• Michael NZ Posted: Jan.4 at 3:52 pm
  @rainman10: word. But sometimes I do wonder if people actually WATCH games anymore.

• BETCATS Posted: Jan.4 at 3:55 pm
  Yeah Eboy i heard about that. I hope it happens but i dont know if it will. Haslem is a LB type of guy.

• Sporting-Lisbon-Blazers Posted: Jan.4 at 3:58 pm
  hope 70 post was enough to talk abouta game winner and its variants…worst post up coment section ever

• TADOne Posted: Jan.4 at 3:59 pm
  Are the Heat that hard up for a PG that they will give up the one guy who plays all out on their team (besides Wade of course)?

• Z Posted: Jan.4 at 3:59 pm
  WTF? Why would Miami do that?! To force Spo to play Beasley at the end of games?

• Z Posted: Jan.4 at 4:05 pm
  E, what’s wrong with D-Wade? I was at the game vs Orl a couple of weeks ago and he seemed so blasé even though they won by 30. He doesn’t seem to care anymore, like he has mentally checked off this season and he’s looking at the Summer of 2010™ already. The stats are still there because he’s just that nice, but this is not Flash.

• BETCATS Posted: Jan.4 at 4:05 pm
  Sporting-Lisbon-Blazers you dont even know what a good commenting section is. You werent here last year. Stop passing judgement you god dammed judgement passer.

• Allenp Posted: Jan.4 at 4:10 pm
  If you all had watched Carlos “I love to dribble” Arroyo run the point for a game you would understand why the Heat want DJ. Especially since DJ backs up Mario “Turnovers are wonderful” Chalmers.
  Man, no wonder Dwade stays pissed. If it wasn’t for Beasley finally figuring out that if he goes hard, few cats can stop him, Wade probably would have already picked out his new home in Chicago.

• Izzo Posted: Jan.4 at 4:15 pm
  Spencer Hawes has a terrible nickname.

• Eric Posted: Jan.4 at 4:15 pm
  I thought the play was: Sasha inbounds to Pau, Sasha runs across and under the basket, Kobe sets the screen, Kobe’s defender is forced to defend Sasha cutting underneath the rim, Kobe is wide open. Rodriguez was so focused on Sasha that he ran right into Kobe and stumbled around for the next two seconds.

• L Posted: Jan.4 at 4:28 pm
  The guy travelled, his screan was a foul, he stepped on the line, blablabla…Can’t you just appreciate the greatness of Kobe, he is the best in the game right now! L

• Z Posted: Jan.4 at 4:29 pm
  DJ Augustin, Mario Chalmers and Carlos Arroyo have one thing in common: none of them are starting pg material.

• Buschfiya Posted: Jan.4 at 4:58 pm
  good job CHRIS BOSH! just coz he’s in Canada he doesn’t get the media hype he deserves…give him some respect, he deserves more allstar votes he is a 20 and 10 guy night in night out!

• Joel O's Posted: Jan.4 at 5:00 pm
  I think it’s impossible to really judge whether Kobe or Lebron is more clutch. If I’m not mistaken, Henry Abbott did a really detailed analysis recently, and showed that statistically Lebron shoots a much better percentage than Kobe does in the clutch, while Kobe takes a lot more shots than Lebron does in clutch situations – making some, and missing a whole lot more. Stats tell a bit of the picture, but we also have to look at Kobe/Lebron’s games as well – their different playing styles. In a clutch situation, Lebron is a lot more likely than Kobe to drive and try and finish inside, or kick it to an open teammate. This explains both his lower attempts and higher FG%. Kobe, on the other hand, as we all know, is much more likely to take that last shot himself. He’s such a composed and great shotmaker, it makes a lot of sense to put the ball in his hands in these near-impossible situations. And since he’ll never shy away from putting up those shots, he puts up a lot of them (and misses a ton, too).

• nbk Posted: Jan.4 at 5:03 pm
  cosign BETCATS and Z

• Joel O's Posted: Jan.4 at 5:04 pm
  So ultimately, is Kobe or Lebron more clutch? I personally think both of them are about the same in this regard – but it depends on what you want your last play to be. If I needed someone to drive in the lane and finish strong, or failing that, find an open teammate, Lebron would definitely be the guy. If I needed someone to personally take the last shot, I’d take Kobe over Lebron every time. The stats tell the same story. So it’s pretty meaningless for us to bicker over who really is better.

• Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Jan.4 at 5:06 pm
  Kobe is better!

• Joel O's Posted: Jan.4 at 5:06 pm
  Oh and how about that left handed hook / layup Chris Bosh hit on Timmy with a minute left in the game last night? Good stuff.

• james Posted: Jan.4 at 5:08 pm
  Kobe haters get sprayed like afrosheen Ya herd!

• Pardeep Posted: Jan.4 at 5:56 pm
  Quit hating on Kobe he is clearly more clutch then LeBron. If LeBron took jumpers in the clutch his clutch stat or whatever that stupid 24 seconds or less on the clock stat is would be way lower. Ask any coach who would you want the last shot Kobe or LeBron that answer would be Kobe. If Kobe was on the Cavs he’d be doing 35 ppg again.

• litetitan Posted: Jan.4 at 8:29 pm
  Hello room: question.
  ___
  Can anyone explain what Mike D’Antoni is doing?

• nbk Posted: Jan.4 at 8:58 pm
  Mike D’Antoni knows his offense will work, he is just too stubborn to listen to anyone else. In other words, he is either gonna do it his way or it wont get done

• L Posted: Jan.4 at 10:08 pm
  Joel O’s, all your stats are bananas. If your life was depending on one play, one shot. You’d take kobe anytime. The guy hit three game winning shots in 29 days. i haven’t seen lebron doin it once this year. Those shots are the difference between great and the greatest..L

• Joel O's Posted: Jan.4 at 10:45 pm
  @L: What stats? I don’t recall quoting any stats. And well, I *did* agree with you, I’d pick Kobe to take that shot.

• J Posted: Jan.4 at 11:12 pm
  Charlotte looks pretty good.. damn, i hate that we lost to them, but they’re really SOLID. crash for all star.! seriously Shaq needs more touches 5 fg attempts last game.. FIVE! i know i know the guy is what he is.. but he’s more than capable of what he’s currently producing. back to CHA: that haslem for Dj would even make them tough.. and welcome to chicago dwade? hmm. i still think Riley has something out on his sleeve..

• Anton Posted: Jan.4 at 11:12 pm
  Manu is $tatistically more clutch than any player in the L.

• Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Jan.4 at 11:18 pm
  Mike D’Antoni is refusing to play his rookies, most notably Toney Douglas, who scored 21 points early on in the season and then rode the pine until now.

• nbk Posted: Jan.4 at 11:20 pm
  manu is probably statistically more injured than 98.87543%ish players from argentina

• J Posted: Jan.4 at 11:22 pm
  the cavs really need that solid 4 aside from varejao.. man, i’m finished with JJ, forget the fast start, i won’t mind trading him, if he’s really something worth the wait he should be consistent double digit scorer right now. package him with Z, though I’m hoping they could buyout Z for us to get him back. (still hoping for a troy Murphy/antawn Jamison/Caron butler) winks.

• J Posted: Jan.4 at 11:25 pm
  and where the hell is boobie gibson?

• Z Posted: Jan.5 at 12:15 am
  I’d really be more comfortable if the Cavs would add one more scorer. you know that Bron gon brin it everytime but Mo is a question mark. With a Jamison to take off some of the scoring load, it’s championship time.

• Jukai Posted: Jan.5 at 12:59 am
  I’d just like to add that I’ve seen the Cavaliers lose a couple of games because James drove and left 3-5 seconds left on the clock instead of taking a buzzer beater. Not saying take a contested jumper at the buzzer is a better option, but it’s not black and white…

• Gary Posted: Jan.5 at 2:08 am
  My argument would be that,
  we know Kobe and LeBron will be the one who make plays for their team at clutch time, Kobe going for last second shots and converting some of them, while James look for high percentage shots, laying it up and drawing contact, and when he don’t get it he passes out to teammates who may or may not make the shots.
  As they are the playmakers in clutch time, why don’t we compare their teams’ winning% in close games or maybe the points per possession of their respective team under such circumstances?

• Z Posted: Jan.5 at 9:34 am
  You know what, Gary… that’s makes way too much sense. They play to win the games, right? (shout out to herm edwards)

• Niya-girl-fresh Posted: Jan.5 at 10:01 am
  Yall need to stop referring to ESPN’s useless statline, “The most clutch with 2 seconds left”? Who actually takes the timeout to focus on that? What matters is field goal shooting and winning the game. Kobe is a head of LeBron in that category for sure. You guys need to go to NBA.com and look at Kobe’s shot chart compared to LeBrons, his is a lot better and doing it with a busted shooting hand he had to adjust to, now check those stats lmao!! I love Kobe haters they make him want to get better, and that’s scary.

• Niya-girl-fresh Posted: Jan.5 at 10:03 am
  Nba.com, ESPN.com, Sportscenter.com, Slamonline.com, youtube shoot everywhere you find the same kind of people under every Kobe article. Learn how to separate the player from the person, and your personal feelings, from actual emotion of the game fellas. It’s been 14 seasons with the same mess let it go.

• Joel O's Posted: Jan.5 at 5:36 pm
  As someone who’s followed and cheered for Kobe Bryant for essentially half my life – and his entire career, I’d like to ask those of you Kobe “fans” out there (who stupidly denounce every tiniest bit of criticism against Kobe, whether warranted or not, as “hating”) a question: where the heck were you people between 2004-2007, during the Kwame/Smush years? Because it seems like after the Lakers’ recent championship, you guys seem to really have gotten a lot more courageous. It must have been great during 2004-2007 for you guys, hopping from one bandwagon to the next (Miami, Dallas, Phoenix, etc.) while Kobe dragged flawed Laker teams into the playoffs, despite the inevitability of losing against far superior teams.

• Joel O's Posted: Jan.5 at 5:48 pm
  Being a fan doesn’t just mean supporting your hero and being stupidly blind to his faults. It means accepting them and supporting him in *spite* of them. There are a lot of die-hard Laker fans on this forum who I’m sure are really embarrassed by the numbingly idiotic sheep who’ve hopped onto the Laker bandwagon since they signed Pau. You guys see Kobe as this faultless, perfect, super-clutch, super-smart unstoppable player who’s the epitome of a basketball player and a teammate. Guess what? He’s not. He’s a bit of a nerd, he spent the first half of his career trying way too hard to emulate MJ, he has the same occasionally-grating superstar ego Shaq and Lebron has, he’s made a ton of mistakes off the court in spite of trying his darndest not to, he came off the Karl Malone drama looking insecure. He sulks, pouts, and until recently, used to be a very exacting teammate (ask Kwame). But in spite of all of these flaws and mistakes, and more importantly, BECAUSE of them, Kobe has become the best player in the league right now.

• Joel O's Posted: Jan.5 at 5:58 pm
  Since Kobe won the title last summer, you guys have been especially bold in proclaiming him the undisputed best player on earth. And who can argue with that – he’s world champion! So it’s easy and convenient to support him now, and call everyone who doesn’t agree with you “haters”. Just know that your ignorant arrogance and blind faith in your team and hero doesn’t glorify them – it only cheapens their struggle, and puts real fans who’ve followed their team through thick and thin to shame. It’s probably even worse for Celtics die-hards who lived through the Rick Fox / Dino Radja / Toine / etc. decades who suddenly have to put up with the explosion of fake-ass wannabe massholes.

• Mvp23100 Posted: Jan.5 at 7:05 pm
  Deep cosign

• J Posted: Jan.7 at 11:29 pm
  i’m with you Z, the only thing drawing me back for Jamison is age and contract. but eff that, we want to win now!