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Monday, January 11th, 2010 at 9:00 am  |  141 responses

Trade Talk: Bynum for Bosh

by Marcel Mutoni / @marcel_mutoni

With the trade deadline on the horizon, ’tis indeed the season for wild rumors. And this one is a doozy.

Everyone in Toronto (and around the League) seems resigned to the idea that Chris Bosh will be wearing a different uniform next season, so it’s not unusual to see his name being tossed around in these conversations. The surprise is seeing Andrew Bynum — who’s having his best season yet as a pro — in the same chatter.

According to the NY Post, however, the Los Angeles Lakers wouldn’t mind swapping bigs with Toronto:

A Lakers source told me the team had its sights set high, as usual, and planned to target the possible acquisition of Chris Bosh when it got closer to the 3 p.m. Feb. 18 trade deadline, and the Raptors might be more likely to move their Olympian/All-Star while still entitled to compensation. It commonly is believed Bosh almost certain is to flee Toronto after this season, when he has the right to opt out of the final year ($17.1 million) of his contract.

My source believes the Lakers will offer Andrew Bynum for Bosh (if they haven’t done so already) well before the deadline expires. In itself, the one-for-one swap is impossible to make. Bynum’s “base year” essentially allows L.A. to take back but half of his salary this year ($12.5M). Of course, that restriction is lifted when next year’s salary ($13.7M) activates come July 1, at which time a sign-and-trade transaction would be feasible.

Naturally and immediately, Raptors GM Bryan Colangelo strongly denied such talks when asked about them.

That being said, what are your thoughts on this: Does it make sense for both sides, or is this just the first in a long line of crazy rumors prior to the Feb. 18 deadline?

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  • http://www.twitter.com/NotebookNick thesubwayconnection

    It’s a Peter Vescey rumor.

  • riggs

    horrible for the raptors. too lopsided to even work out.

  • http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3445/3357407353_c868c2d95c.jpg larrylegend

    is jerry west now in toronto…!?

  • brandocommando

    there is no way they would lose bosh for bynum. the lakers would be unbeatable

  • Lionel

    I’m extremely disappointed that you would choose to cite an article from a source with as little credibility as the NY Post…

    They have the most outrageous rumors printed in their publication.

  • Yesse

    I really hope this isnt true.Lakers will lose a heavy center.Then they will have skinny Gasol as a center even though he is strong.

  • http://www.youtube.com/ L

    I say pull the trigger L.A. maybe now youll have an actual strong man

  • Kadavour

    Looks nice on paper, but this won’t work for LAL. They would be wise to avoid this.

  • thegfunk

    I agree it will be problematic kinda. Bosh is upgrade on on bynum but gasol will not get looks.

  • tavoris

    this trade would be even more lopsided than the Pau donation to the Lakers.

  • http://slamonline.com NUPE

    i’m sure both sides will continue to deny it until it actually happens. i view this as a big advantage for the lakers although it would make their defense against elite centers a bit worse. if the raptors really don’t think they have a chance of keeping bosh, then bynum may not be a bad catch – assuming he only gets better and stays healthy. another story i heard was that the wizards were trying to get him as they clear out gil’s contract and shop jamison. this would give them the money to keep bosh, just not sure if bosh would be willing to stay on a team without a legit shot at a title.

  • Reflex

    As a fan of the Lakers I would love this to happen, Bynum may eventually come good but Bosh is legit NOW, and there’s no time like the present.

  • Reflex

    It’s not quite Pau for Kwame but it’s nice nevertheless!

  • BeeBopLIVE

    I personally think bosh should either go 2 miami or stay in t.dot bc he needs 2 be somewhere where he is one of the centers of attention and can prosper, bc like it or not he is in the top 5 4 mans in the league 2day and is a franchise player…

  • zabba

    Ten more straight titles for the Lakers if this happens. Don’t make it happen.

  • Rasheedionics

    Can someone please explain to me how is this a great trade for Lakers? Do Lakers really need another 20 point scorer? Ron Artest is already reduced to a 10 points a game at best on this team. Bosh skill set doesn’t fit Lakers team. They need Bynum and his presence inside to rebound and block shots. Neither Gasol nor Bosh would give them that type of presence in the middle. Let’s face it, they’re both kinda soft. Second of all, how are Lakers supposed to keep Bosh when he becomes a free agent this summer??? He’s going to demand max contract. Can Lakers really afford him with already millions of $$$ tided up in Kobe, Gasol and Odom. Just don’t seem feasible to me.

  • http://thegoodpoint.com Sam Joynt

    The last thing that I want to see is Bosh leave, however considering his expiring contract and if he were to seem commited to leaving then getting something in return would be far better than nothing. Especially if that something was a young true centre with good potential like Bynum, who would allow Bargnani to shift to the 4 spot where he’s truly meant to be.

  • tavoris

    of course Bosh has his eyes firmly set on going to Texas this summer.

  • DMC14

    People saying raptors would never do it didn’t read properly, Bosh most likely to leave anyway better to get something then nothing at end of season?

    BeeBop, whats bc? i aint the best with internet/sms abreviations.

    If i was Lakers i wouldn’t, not unless i was gonna move Gasol next year for another big guy like Bynum. But i guess theres no garantee that Bosh would stay at Lakers next year (he’d be crazy to move before getting a championship ring though).

  • a_whiteman

    I like this move for both sides. LA gets a great, mobile pf to pair with pau who can spread the floor and give him more room to operate down low. Only downside for them is pau will have trouble with defending some 5s. I actually like this for the rape n though I despise bynum. He is a very capable defender at 5 and with rasho behind him gives the raps great depth at the 5. It also allows bargnani to play the 4 where he is more suited to play given his style. With bynum down low and bargnani roaming, it gives the raps one of the most potent frontcourts in the l.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    I can kinda see it for TO if they believe that Bosh won’t re-sign. Let’s face it, Andrea is a 4. Having Bynum as a bruiser would help free his game. For LA though, do you really need ANOTHER slender, skilled, face up 4? Scoring has never been a problem in LA… I guess when you have the chance to add a perennial all star, you do it… but.. I dunno.

  • neaorin

    The Lakers were just fine in the playoffs last year with Gasol and Odom getting the bulk of the big man minutes. I hope this doesn’t happen.

  • http://slamonline.com/ niQ

    I wish LA wanted Bargnani instead of Bosh.

  • RickyRude

    Why even start this talk before we have clearer playoff picture? If I was Bosh, I would not leave Toronto until I see what happens come April. And who knows, if some potential shows and team chemistry, I would re-consider signing with Toronto.

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    I think the Raps would take it, since it seems increasingly apparent that Chris might leave this summer. The Lakers would be ridiculous though, if this goes through. Everyone saw what Chris Bosh can do as a secondary option on Team USA. Wow.

  • Ajdn

    Just to clarify, not everyone in TO thinks bosh is going to leave….

  • heartlandG

    Dont fix it if it aint broke

  • michael scorn

    They could have 3 left handed players on the court at one time. They just need two more. Has that ever happened?

  • JAMS

    if it ever did happen, Bynum would just pull a “Mourning” Alonzo was a raptor during the Vince Carter trade, if people remember. Plus Bynum is a chump

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    I’m not so convinced that Bosh is leaving. Hes been saying that he likes being the #1 option. That’s not going to happen in LA or Houston.

  • tavoris

    @Z-you don’t think Bosh would be the #1 option in Houston? Yao may be back next season, but he’s not gonna be back to form for a while. Bosh>all those other guys, easily.

  • dutch Rob

    Thats true Z he did say that
    But if he wants to win a ring he probably has to be the second option.
    Lebron d-wade and CB just put your ego’s aside and sign with the same team LOL thats not gonna happen

  • http://slamonline.com Brad Long

    Absolutely no chance of happening.

  • kh

    not a good look for either squad.

  • michael scorn

    Maybe the Lakers can get Wade and LeBron too for the Machine and Farmar

  • http://slamonline.com/ niQ

    dutch Rob, you can’t just put ego’s aside, you have to factor in putting SALARIES aside as well =P
    On another note, who else is left handed on the Lakers?

  • Sam

    I can’t believe this! Bynum for Bosh? Gasol or Bosh can’t play center and Bargnani won’t switch to PF. I don’t want Gasol to leave LA (due to screwing up the chemistry), but Bynum? DOES NOT WORK OUT!

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    That would be a horrible trade for the Raptors. Just flat out terrible. The Lakers would definitely have the upper hand here, although they already have Pau Gasol, so why do they need Chris Bosh?!

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Carl Landry + Luis Scola >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew Bynum.

  • Vince5

    Who would trade an multiple all-star player who’s 8th in the league for scoring and 6th in rebounds against a good post player? Honestly, the Raptors can ask for much more! Even if Bynum is having his best season, so is Bosh.

  • wassup

    Funny that just yesterday i was watching the raptors vs celtics and bryan colangelo literally said there not even considering any trades for him right now. The guy may actually stay in Toronto, i dont know where people are hearing he’s going for sure.

  • Bushfiya

    Bosh wouldn’t want to go to LA fine he may get a championship, but his playing time is going to be cut in half. and Idunno what Bynum’s attitude is like if he’s happy to come over here I would welcome him with open arms, but if he’s gonna pull an Alonzo Mourning then FTS!

  • Jon

    I won’t be surprised. It’s a hands-down DO IT!! deal.

  • http://slamonline.com JL

    i think it works out for both teams. Raptors need a dominant center who Bynum can be if he is the sole option down there (which he will be while Bargnani camps out at the 3pt line), and also stays healthy. Lakers get another big man who really knows how to play the game. Bynum will probably average 18 and 12 while Bosh will suffer in terms of numbers. If they get Bosh and they can really shoot for 72 wins with that kind of balance of superior talent on the roster. Imagine the rotations this team can run out and basically there will be very balanced minutes with guys who are always energetic because they get enough rest.

  • K Sidhu (Toronto)

    some inside info from the ACC that I received as of late is that last year Bosh’s cousin who handles all of his PR did alot of charity work around the city and bought lots of Raps merch from the raptors store at the ACC. This year she is yet to buy a single item from the store and has done no charity work in 2009 on behalf of Bosh.
    This is the same thing that happened when VC left.

    Bosh is as good as gone as well….

  • http://myspace.com/showbread Bryan

    Check the numbers the lakers work best with pau at the 5 and lamar at the 4. If you put bosh at the 4 and pau at the 5, it works. Pau isn’t a faceup player really.

  • J-City

    Why would Bynum pull a Mourning? Mourning was close to retirement when he came over, therefore only wanted to play for a championship. Bynum is still young, and sometimes I get the feeling he cares more for putting up huge numbers than actually winning. He can do that here in Toronto with Andrea on the outside, he’s got the post all to himself.
    If the Raps start floundering before the trade deadline, I can see this happening. Especially if Turk continues to play like crap. Let’s face it, unless you’re the top 4 in the East, I see no upsets happening – thus another first round exit. BOS, ORL, CLEV, ATL just too strong (Orlando not at the moment).
    Bynum/Bargnani: The 2nd comming of the killer B’s!

  • tavoris

    niQ-Odom & Fisher are both left-handed.

  • Lou Scuntz

    I think trading bosh for bynum would be great for both teams…especially the Raps…some defensive presence down low…would be nice swing some type of deal to get Odom to T.O as well

  • j4zzm4n

    problem is this season pau has gimpy hammys. but this trade is far too unrealistic too happen. interesting debate as to how it works in theory but until i see bosh lace up in purple and gold then i will treat this as complete and utter nonsense.

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the Balla

    Just read it online!!!!!!… deal is almost done. Bosh for Bynum and Sasha + Cash!!!!

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ TADOne

    Source James?

  • riggs

    HIS A*S

  • http://slamonline.com/ niQ

    James the Balla, I hope you’re joking, and if you’re not at least add in Shannon Brown! And J-City, they wrote it as Killer Bs. And when I saw that on TV it took me a good 10 seconds to realize they didn’t say BS. LOL

  • http://www.nba.com East ATL

    Since the raptors do not have a chance at winning the East, the raptors should start rebuilding from now. If they trade Bosh for Bynum, the raptors will receive the next coming of Shaq. Currently, Bynum is hands down the best center in the league. He has a greater offensive threat than Dwight Howard will ever have, and Bynum has not even reached the peak of his potential. With a young core of Demar Derozen, Andrew Bynum, and Andre Barnani, have a chance a forming a dynasty within the next few years. The sagacity of the Raptors to pick up Bynum gives them a chance to compete for NBA championship in six years.

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the Balla

    Naw… I am just playing lol. My hopes are up we get Bosh!!!!!
    imagine Kobe with 7-8-9 championships. The haters heads will explode lol!!!!

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the Balla

    lol @ EASt – In SIX YEARS??? lol

  • http://slamonline.com/ niQ

    He must have said 6 years in relation to the time Kobe is starting to fall off. lol

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the Balla

    Well Kobe has played quite poorly the last 4-5 games.. so I am pretty sure everyone “knows” he is falling off now!!

  • kev

    this would be a great move for LA Bynum is always injured and has questionable work ethic. I would hate for this to happen because we would have a new laker dynasty on our hands.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Andrew Bynum is hands down the best center in the league LMAO, now thats funny

  • http://www.need4sheed.com Tarzan Cooper

    this is just lakers fans wishing. and its very poor “reporting”. slam has been disappointing me lately, just parroting whatever the viper has to say. a source tells me the lakers will trade vujabiotch and former for deron williams. a source tells me they will also trade bynum for dwight.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Tarzan you realize Bynum for Bosh makes sense for both teams right? Or are you in your own little world

  • L

    After reading all of these comments, I’ve come to the conclusion that the majority of you do not watch NBA basketball.

    Bynum for Bosh does not work in any sense. The Raptors would be giving up 8.6 ppg, as well as 2.9 rpg. Bynum is not going to average 24 and 11, as Bosh is doing now. This is not to mention that the salaries don’t match up.

    If that’s not enough proof, look at who wrote the article and where it was published. Peter Vecsey has the credibility of Bernie Madoff.

    And buddy who says Bosh’s cousin is his manager… She already bought all the merch she needs last year, and Bosh is actually doing MORE charity work this year. I work with the Boys and Girls Club of Canada, and he’s increased the amount of work he does for us.

    Keep trying guys.

  • Mr. Rashad

    Bynum in Toronto would appear to be a good long term investment. Alongside some of the young talent they have in T-Dot, Bynum would continue to bloom. Yet, I don’t think it would generate more parity to add Bosh to the Lakers roster. Sounds like, an NBA LIVE lineup with all the players on 99. Send Bosh to New York or Houston, but not the Lakers. The NBA is already lacking balance as it stands.

  • tavoris

    is Bynum even the best center in LA? Doesn’t Gasol play Center a lot? And what about Chris Kaman?

  • floe

    As much as I am a big fan of Bynum and can’t stand Bosh the Lakeshow would have to add another significant piece to make that trade happen. Someone like a Ron Artest, Trevor Ariza or a Lamar Odom which I doubt would happen.

    Also i don’t see the combo of Paul and Bosh working too well together. They’re playing styles essentially consist of the same dynamics.. same strenghs, same weaknesses.

    If I had to guess I’m pretty sure Bosh is re-signing with Toronto next year unless something significant happens from now till then.

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    who plays the 5 bn bosh and odom when pau is resting or in foul trouble??

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    If toronto is not offered a better piece then Bynum by the trade deadline this trade WILL happen. There is no way toronto is going to let Bosh go for free in the offseason. And a sign and trade does not look likely considering the teams rumored to be interested in signing bosh. Unless Toronto wants to roll the dice on a David Lee and Nate Rob for Bosh sign n trade. But thats real real risky

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Z I think the appropriate question is, how do 5′s guard the Lakers if this trade goes down.

  • http://Egotastic.com Michael

    This Would be horrible for the Lakers. They are having enough trouble getting enough shots for everyone as is.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Why do people think Bosh is selfish? And Pau will now get the touches he needs down low, considering the Lane will be spread out. I don’t see how this will help in the Finals if the Lakers meet up with Boston, or Orlando

  • L

    NBK… Please tell us how it makes sense for both teams. Please, I implore you.

  • tavoris

    @Michael-they do? Kobe never has a problem getting his…

  • tavoris

    I could see Bym flat-out REFUSING to play for the Raptors.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Not if he wants to get paid

  • tavoris

    @nbk-for the sake of “what ifs”: Kobe, Artest, Bosh, Pau, Odom+any other spare parts the Lakers decide to throw out there=a team that nobody in the NBA could come close to beating. Heck, that lineup would give All-Star teams fits.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    I know that. If this trade happens the league pretty much won’t have any mystery to it at all. I just think Bynum works better then Bosh when talking about the Lakers and Magic due to their rebounding ability. Regardless if this trade happens or not the Lakers are IMO 3-1 favorites for the title

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Celtics****

  • goh

    dude if bynum get traded to raps he’s not gonna fit into the system thus becoming a bad player.
    the lakers made that dude and just like hedo i bet u bynum gonna start complaining bout an unhappy role.

  • derrick

    don’t know if this was mentioned but if i were the lakers i would trade gasol for bosh straight up. bosh is younger and has a better all around game. having bosh and gasol in the frontcourt would be nice but who would be the tough guy? if they get bosh they winning the ship this year. and this is coming from a laker hater.

  • tavoris

    @Derrick-Gasol would NEVER agree to leave LA. If they forced his hand, he’d refuse to play (or get “injured” like he did in Memphis)

  • nastynas

    @z
    what about DJ BENGAAAAAAAAAA

  • http://www.manutd.com Z

    some ppl are more condident than i am in having a rotation of three finesse bigs. not a fan of bynum by all means but he does give a different look inside to LA. this trade, to me, would be like phx trying to add cp3. yeah, he’s crazy nice but is he whatchu need?

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Come on Z that is not a good comparison

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    Keep Bynum, don’t need Bosh, we need another slasher to come in the Game for Kobe that can get buckets. The starting five is fine, we need good role and bench players to come in and play. Lakers need second unit help, not first unit help, also Bynum is defense in the middle, we need him to clog the lane. Lakers are fine, trade for a second tier player, like Micheal Redd and others. Don’t do this trade, LAKERS!!!!

  • http://slamonline.com/ niQ

    The Seed. You already have that “slasher,” his name is Shannon Brown!

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    THe Seed you want the lakers trading for an injured over paid second tier player, instead of a top 10 in the league? Are you retarded?

  • http://www.sixers.com 360vue

    “Currently, Bynum is hands down the best center in the league.” LOL! Hands down this best comment in this thread.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Pardeep

    LOL Bynum is NOT the best center in the league he will be someday though because Dwight doesn’t have a post move and Bynum is improving in every part of his game but I HOPE THIS HAPPENS. Bosh is going to leave why not send him to my Lakers so we can 8 peat.

  • Hoodsnake

    Bosh wants a max deal in July so how does this make sense on LA’s books?

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    @ L – Well for the Lakers it should be obvious. – Bosh clears space for Gasol AND Kobe to get more touches on the block. He is a defensive pest on the Pick & Roll – even more effective then Lamar Odom.
    And for Toronto – They receive a young talented big man, who has a contract that will keep him in town for a couple years. Toronto essentially gets Bynum for Bosh instead of Losing Bosh for nothing this summer (Which WILL happen, unless the sign-n-trade i talked about earlier happens).

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Toronto would also be able to run a hedo-dwight type pick and roll, except they would have Bynum. Their team is literally built just like last years magic if this trade goes through

    If LA makes this trade (i believe) they get to keep Bosh’s bird rights, which allows them to sign him above the cap. And the Lakers are not worried about the luxury tax, especially if they get a player that makes them favorites for the next half a decade.

  • stYinUrlane

    like datin alicia keys – u can’t pass that up – CAN’T!!!!1

  • fizzrocket

    No. No, no, no. The Lakers need Bynum as an actual low-post player, not like Bosh, who floats around on the high post and takes jumpers. Bosh I don’t think Bosh would enjoy being a 3rd-4th option, either. At least go to Miami where you’ll get an oop or five from D-Wade.

  • Vegas

    Bosh for Boozer and Korver from the jazz?

  • http://myspace.com/showbread Bryan

    Bynum makes Andrea move to the 4 where he belongs. I like nbk’s magic comparison because with Andrew a (much) less athletic Dwight with more post moves and Andrea like a better Rashard Lewis, It makes sense. For the Lakers, Bosh allows Gasol to be the main 7 footer on the block so no fighting for touches . The part I disagree with is the rebounding thing. Gasol gets 11 , Bosh gets 12, Odom gets 10, Ron and Kobe both get 5 I mean the other team might not grab a single board for quarters at a time. Sure their numbers will balance out but still. Actually though if I was the lakers I MIGHT try and get Jefferson or even Better Love from minny for Bynum.

  • http://www.luketynan.blogspot.com litetitan

    I’ve gone and replicated a trade straight up on the “espn trade machine”: Bynum for Bosh___DETAILS AS FOLLOWS.
    _
    TRADE FAIL: Lakers are over the cap,incoming salaries are greater than 125% plus $100,000 of their out going salaries. Cut $7,867,412 from Lakers incoming trade value to make this successful.
    _
    I’ll try a few other trades involving the Lakers and Bosh and see what works…
    _
    Obviously though, this trade in this format will not happen.

  • kudos

    shiit, i would trade bynum + odom for bosh straight up if i were the lakers. Bynum is all “potential,” but if you look closely he has zero defense.He may have some postmoves but he’s not even in the same league as brook lopez. Adding Bosh to the lakers creates a all-stars-squad that could beat either the East OR West in the all star game.

  • Hoodsnake

    Lakers should trade for ZBo who is playing like he is in a contract year…hey wait a minute!

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Bryan I was thinking that too. But against guys like Kendrick Perkins and Dwight Howard, Gasol and Bosh will get pushed so far under the basket they would be susceptible to offensive boards that wouldn’t happen with Bynum. But that is the ONLY disadvantage I can think of in this trade for LA

  • http://www.luketynan.blogspot.com litetitan

    OKAY I’VE WORKED OUT A TRADE THAT WOULD WORK (as far as the salaries go and the expected win/loss results) BUT IT DOESN’T LOOK PRETTY AND NO TEAM WOULD DO THIS TRADE…
    -
    It’s a 3way trade involving Houston, Lakers and Toronto:
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    Houston get:Lamar Odom, Luke Walton and Jose Calderon (from toronto).
    -
    LA get: Chris Bosh and Reggie Evans
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    Toronto get: Andrew Bynum BUT also get Yao Ming from Houston (but oddly enough are projected to win 9 fewer games with those two aquired players).
    It’s projected that the Lakers would gain 5 wins by this trade.
    -
    Note though, to acquire Bosh, the Lakers have to be move alot of money, either directly (move kobe??) or indirectly with a 3rd team.
    It’s just not going to happen – the Bosh for Bynum scenario.

  • Aaron

    Yeah too bad the Raptors are building for the FUTURE. Pass.

  • http://roboto@gmail.com roboto

    the word out of LA is this: Bynum is bad in the locker room. Nobody likes him (read Kobe hates him). Phil is tired of Bynum being the last slowest man up the court and missing his D rotations. This trade has legs.

  • Sturm Drang

    This is a terrible idea for LA. There is no way they could afford to keep Bosh. Bynum is a long-term investment that’s already paying off in the present. At worst, he gives LA some muscle for dealing with Howard, and at best, when Bynum is alongside Gasol, they’re usually able to dominate inside. A lineup of Gasol and Bosh??? That’s a downgrade defensively and it’s really not as much of an offensive upgrade as it may first seem because 1) there’s not enough shots to go around to make the most of Bosh and 2) Bosh is less rebounding than Bynum. It’s an even worse deal for Toronto because Bynum is not a dominant force – he needs a PF who’ll help out on the inside, not a long-range shooter like Bargnani. He looks better in LA because Gasol/Odom take heat off of him in there. Even Artest is a bruiser, and of course, Kobe gets so much attention… Just, no. It’s dumb.

  • KB24

    BINGO!!!!!
    This trade works on ESPN’s NBA Trade Machine and MAKES SENSE:

    Lakers Get: PF Chris Bosh with his expiring contract and PF Amir Johnson with his expiring contract

    Raptors Get: C Andrew Bynum with 3yrs. left, SF Adam Morrison with his expiring contract, and SG Sasha Vujacic with 2yrs. left

    Only thing is Bosh would have to decide between RINGS OR MONEY

    Hollinger’s Analysis- Lakers +6 Wins, Raptors -9 Losses

  • Jose

    No! Bosh has to sign W/ Miami this summer not get traded. Damnit!dont let it happen! lakers aint a charity case!they the defending world champs.*hurting inside saying that*

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ Tariq

    This makes sense for Toronto because they would get something for Bosh, who is leaving in the summer anyway. But why would the Lakers give up Bynum just to rent Bosh for the rest of the season? They can’t afford to pay him what other teams can. So why would they do it?
    UNLESS they see Bynum as an injury-prone bad contract they want to get out of.

  • Johnson

    All this talk of LA losing defense against the elite centers of the league, Who? there is not a single elite center in the league and Dwight is not elite, at least not now. Its not like its hard to defend against him, pau did just fine while bynum was on the bench in the finals. Other than howard tho there isn’t a pure center that even comes close to dominant other than bynum and a healthy oden(watch the first 20 games of the season for the blazers lol.) The league hasn’t seen a big man that is naturally talented on both ends of the floor while being athletic and stable since the diesel. Howard is the closest thing but he is and will be for awhile a work in progress.

  • Johnson

    And bynum can easily put up bosh numbers in toronto, i dislike the deal from LA’s standpoint but Toronto would be foolish not to give this deal serious consideration. Moving bargnani to what seems like a much more natural 4 and having an actual defensive and offensive threat down low would really benefit the team. Look at bynum’s numbers when pau is out and think of the fact that even when he plays 30+ minutes he still has artest, kobe and odom on the team and can get 20-10-2.5 on 11-14 shots. Toronto fans should be much more excited about the prospect than it seems they are. Well there is the injury risk tho.

  • Johnson

    And i think bynum has been secretly requesting a trade, he believes himself to be an allstar and can’t be too happy with the minutes he gets on the loaded front court.

  • benny

    Well toronto will regret not taking the trade if bosh leaves via free agency, but it is a very lopsided trade. If brian colangelo could get them to throw another high caliber player (lamar odom) i would completely understand.

  • Kent Kanada

    I think its more likely to be Bosh for Gasol and Vujacic since Raptors are aiming to complete their goal at an all European club in Toronto

  • Exile

    I would not bend on trying to keep Bosh. As an organization, you have to try to keep him…. unless Bosh tells them straight up that he won’t stay.

  • wilz

    crazy

  • matt

    just because americans continue to say that bosh will leave doesnt mean that ‘its becoming more aparent bosh will leave’. what nonsense. ottawas not THAT far from toronto marcel, you should be able to hear that no one is resigned to bosh leaving

  • Shem

    Im a big raps fan, id hate to see this. Bynum is plain stupid. He decided to let go kareem, hes lucky to have kareem even want to tutor him. Plus, Id take my chances on bosh leaving and signing someone with his cap then trading him and comiting money to a player in which you could get be more flexible adn sign whoever they want. Who would play of bargnani or bynum?

  • Shem

    ^ I meant who would play C, cuz both players benefit of center matchups. KG on andrea is a better matchup then Kendrick perkins

  • http://www.luketynan.blogspot.com litetitan

    From a personel move I don’t mind LAKERS getting Bosh, Pau is a fine rebounder, as is Lamar and Bosh adds to that. Bynum is only a great rebounder against small teams (see Houston) and when Pau is out.
    _
    @KB24: I like that trade you’ve put forward on the espn trade machine and if LA has anyone they can get out of the NBA DL to fill a bench spot, it shows promise. The only thing is they will be slightly undermanned with Luke Walton still injured (day to day).

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Just for the record, a healthy Yao Ming is the best center in the NBA.

  • http://IdontthinktheLakersneedanymorescoring.whattheyneedisacenterthatfillsinalltheintangibles.AcenterlikeNoahwouldbeperfectforthelakersbecausehewoulddoallofthedirtyworkthatGasolOdomdontwanttobeaparto drock

    Noah for Bynum would be a better fit for the Lakers. Noah does everything that Phil Jackson wants out of a post player and it would create more room for Kobe to post up and also Gasol. You have to remember that Kobe’s game is moving closer to the basket due to the fact that he’s older and can’t consistently try to dominate from the perimeter every night. Plus Phil Jackson loves Noah and the fact that he can pass and rebound only makes their offense more dynamic. Bynum is a better player but Noah has a higher work ethic and is a better fit

  • http://jayemmbee.blogspot.com ClutchPerformer

    when hell freezes over lol
    my raptors arent gonna pull another lopsided trade again ala VC to NJ

  • http://IJustWantMyNameToLookBig.com Chukaz

    no fu(kin way my lakers do this. why would you want to get a 6 11 small forward? that’s what bosh is. You can talk all you want bout how he’s a superstar and whatever, but he’s not even one of the top 5 PF in da league. Gasol duncan dirk stat da (old) kid. I would argue that maybe Aldridge west n z bo are better. I’m not even sure if he’s da best pf on his own team (andrea’s pretty talented). Bynum’s a top 2 center in da league right now (cuz yao’s out). I’ll take that over bosh

  • JoeMaMa

    Where the HELL is Reggie Evans?!!??!?
    If he was healthy, we’d have more attitude, tougher D, and a few more wins. And we’d be talking about this being a turning point for the Raps, what with our young talent, Bargnani’s improvement, and Bosh’s all star status.
    I think I just said Reggie Evans can save the Raptors for years to come. F*ck.

  • JWIZZ

    If the lakers got their hands on Bosh they’d be really hard to handle, and this might not be bad for Bynum either since he doesn’t play well with Gasol. No matter how crazy this trade sounds i reckon its possible, i didn’t think Memphis would give Gasol away last time..

  • glee(a laker fan)

    From what I’ve read, the only way this deal will go down is if the Lakers trade Bynum, Farmar, and Morrison for Bosh. And the only way the Lakers will do this trade is if they get a contract extension for Bosh. On paper, this trade makes perfect sense for the Lakers. Gasol’s PER and PER against stats are better at the C than at the PF. For all the people saying that Pau can’t guard the elite C’s: remember the 2009 finals against Dwight Howard. The only thing that would worry me about this trade is the fact that the Lakers would have have 11 on their roster and I do believe that the league requires every team to have at least 12 players on their roster.

    To me, Bynum is a liability. Watching him play makes my head explode. He is so inconsistent. And now that he pretty much got rid of Kareem, I don’t see Bynum improving that much. Remember, Kareem was the one that made Bynum who he is today. And watching Chris Bosh playing with the Redeem Team makes me a believer of Bosh meshing with the Lakers’ system. Because of Bynum’s “increased play,” Pau’s offensive production has dipped a little. However, with Bosh, Pau’s inside game should increase dramatically while Chris Bosh stretches out the opponent’s defense. With Kobe on the block so much, Bosh gives Kobe a reliable pure shooter. The reason I think Kobe has failed lately is because teams have been able to shut down Kobe on the block. He has no reliable player to pass to and ends up having to take a low percentage shot.

    Basically, I think Bynum is way overrated, Gasol is an underrated defender, and Bosh is easily a top 10 player in the league. It makes sense to the pull the trigger on this trade.

    This is also a pretty good read about this topic:

    http://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2010/1/11/1244964/a-beginners-guide-to-the-bynum?ref=yahoo

  • Sporting-Lisbon-Blazers

    “BYNUM IS HANDS DOWN THE BEST CENTER IN THE LEAGUE” HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH…HES NOT EVEN THE BEST CENTER TO PLAY IN THE STAPLES, KAVEMAN IS THERE FELLAS!!!

  • al

    This makes a lot of sense cause Lakers are ready to sign MARC GASOL for next season. So they can start Pau and Bosh, and have a good big center when they needed

  • http://dsjfhklf.com Jukai

    Chukaz starting 2010 early with another nonsense post

  • Sporting-Lisbon-Blazers

    if LA signs the lil Gasol, I just might try to move on from the NBA.

  • Shem

    @Chukaz: A 6’11 sf that isnt even a superstar? Chris Bosh is averaging 24 pts and 11 rebounds and he was averaging 9 trips to the line a night but i think hes around 8 now. When you said Bosh isn’t even a top 5 pf thats when i realized you dont have a very good view on things. KG is absolutely done, Duncan is still going but Bosh is better and I think him and gasol are questionable but im not sure if hes better then dirk. His D is though. Then when you said Bargnani is a better pf then bosh was when i decided i had to reply. HOW IS ANDREA, ALDRIDGE,AND WEST BETTER THEN BOSH? AND HOW IS BYNUM THE BEST C IN THE L. Your opinions are flawed

  • Shem

    @Jukai: Thank you.

  • tavoris

    Why would the Lakers (who are 28-6 with Pau hurt a lot) make ANY moves? The only guys they’d want to move right now are players who aren’t really in the rotation (see Walton, Luke & and Morrison, Adam). Otherwise, they can sit on their TV money and continually win with what they have. No trade of any of their frontcourt players make sense (because their 2-5 positions trump every other teams BY FAR).

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Bosh is a top 10 PLAYER in the League Bynum is a top 10 TALENT. Thats why you make the trade

  • tavoris

    nbk-but he reproduces skills that Gasol & Odom already bing to the table.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Except Bosh has a better jumpshot, he’s better at d – and he would take the athletic big from every other team out of the game – while allowing Pau to destroy opposing centers. The lakers would be the only team in the league that is as deadly on the break as they are in a half court set. There would be literally no team with an strong advantage over LA. IMO

  • yeah

    pau gasol handled dwight howard last years finals..bynum was in foul trouble. bosh, pau, artest kobe and fish. would work but less touches for bosh..i dont think he’d like that. what the lakers need is a point guard that can actually get atleast 6 assist a game unlike fish. and somebody who can slash and shoooooot!! shannon brown is inconsistent. a spark off the bench. all there is to it. dont need bosh. jus need a better bench that is consistent. gotta find that player if lakers want to win again this year.

  • http://aaronlim_11@yahoo.com laker

    lakers need a point guard who gets his assist handed out more than kobes 4 assist a game. terrible for a pg to have less assist than their 2 guard. kobe wont have to fascilitate if they had a better point guard than fish..kobe wont be as tired if they had a player like rondo. look at how much easier the game is for allen and pierce and kg with a good point guard running the game…then 2nd to a point guard..gotta get a spark plug..haha nate robinson would be nice but he would be a pain in the ass. need a bench to win the finals. and pau gasol can handle dwight. lol thats why the magic loss in the finals last year..no answer for kobe and dwight had one good game. bosh to lakers..possible but might ruin the chemistry. but would really destroy other teams with bosh in the high post and pau in the low post. woould work well.

  • npn

    f**k all you morons that would trade away the future of the nba. You idiots make me sick and i would hurt you if i heard you say that we should give up bynum for bosh. Get real.

  • ns

    on a scale of 1 to 10 – bosh is 9 and that is not where bynum is yet .. bosh can take a bad team and turn it into a good team – its because of his attitude and personality .. something you don’t see a lot these days – in a league filled with selfish players who want more money and don’t care about their teams – there is someone like bosh still around ..
    the lakers would be blessed to have bosh in their team – and toronto would just hit rock bottom .. bynum is good – but he is not there yet ..

    kobe would start crying again if there is another star on the team .. unless they get rid of kobe and have bosh as their # 1 guy – i don’t see this deal working

  • LbC Ya562

    @ the guy who said the Bosh for Bynem trade wouldnt work because of Kobe. You should slap yourself. Kobe turns 32 this season, he is willing to pass the ball, Im sure as long as the team i splayin well he wouldn’t mind havin another star. I honestly he cares more about winning now more then anything.

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