Bobcats Acquire Tyrus Thomas

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• Reemo Posted: Feb.18 at 12:36 pm
  They’re going to need that future No.1 cause they won’t be good for a while

• J-Ro Posted: Feb.18 at 12:40 pm
  How does this solve their undersized problem?

• Nick Fleming Posted: Feb.18 at 12:41 pm
  Wait, the Bobcats are still in the NBA?

• Pve84 Posted: Feb.18 at 12:46 pm
  It would have been good if the Bobcats could have kept Flip because the Bulls already have too many guards. Tyrus should be an upgrade over Diaw though.

• Ryne Nelson Posted: Feb.18 at 12:48 pm
  Excellent pickup for the ‘Cats. Bulls get the expirings.. .let’s just hope they can land a top FA this summer (and make the Playoffs this spring).

• Ses Posted: Feb.18 at 12:50 pm
  Another Bad Trade for the Bulls, yeah we have the Cap room but we’re tanking the season

• clos1881 Posted: Feb.18 at 12:54 pm
  I love it we needed the athletcism and we really didn’t lose anything

• TADOne Posted: Feb.18 at 12:56 pm
  Apparently, Chicago thinks they can get Wade or Bosh. Good luck to Larry Brown trying to figure out the enigma that is Tyrus Thomas.

• BETCATS Posted: Feb.18 at 12:57 pm
  words! oh words! Where are the words i could use to describe this! Wonderful? Great? Pants Jizzing Worthy? We got exactly what we needed. Yay

• BETCATS Posted: Feb.18 at 12:57 pm
  …………..

• Brent Posted: Feb.18 at 12:59 pm
  The bulls are going to be good reemo, they are already a 500. team. They can now really add a high priced free agent this summer. If the bulls land one or maybe 2 big free agents they will go to the top 3 in the east. Good trade Bulls.

• Southside Posted: Feb.18 at 1:01 pm
  Thank You Bobcats!! I’m so glad that I don’t have to watch Tyrus take that busted ass jumper in a Bulls uniform anymore.

• Allenp Posted: Feb.18 at 1:03 pm
  Why the hate on MJ?
  To date, he’s picked up Stack Jack, Chandler and Tyrus Thomas for the Bobcats while giving up Vlad Rad, Flip Murray and Acie Law.
  That sounds like some good work. I mean, MJ has effed up in the past, but you have to give the man credit when he makes good moves.

• BETCATS Posted: Feb.18 at 1:06 pm
  Sometimes, it just seems Allenp knows. co-sign

• Orlando Woolridge Posted: Feb.18 at 1:13 pm
  This is good for the Bulls. Sure, they aren’t going to be contenders this year, but they weren’t contenders anyway. They were not going to win a championship with the roster they had; they were going to be just good enough to make the playoffs, lose, and repeat (basketball hell). At least this way they are giving themselves a chance to really make a splash with free agency.

• Jake Posted: Feb.18 at 1:16 pm
  Losing one of our best players two years in a row? Since when did Tyrus become one of our best players? Enjoy a headcase, Charlotte

• CB 34 Posted: Feb.18 at 1:17 pm
  Great trade for the bobcats. Once they make the playoffs this year, they’re going to be making a lot of noise. Great pickup.

• Hangtime Hec Posted: Feb.18 at 1:18 pm
  BETCATS!!! I like this trade. And it seems most of you aren’t aware that the ‘Cats are at 500. And were one of the better teams coming out of the new year. Jeez.

• Brad Long Posted: Feb.18 at 1:19 pm
  If there is one coach I could see Tyrus flourishing under and becoming a top tier defender, it’s Larry Brown. Great move for the Cats.

• RoG23 Posted: Feb.18 at 1:34 pm
  flip has gotta be one of the most underrated dudes in the L.

• heartlandg Posted: Feb.18 at 1:40 pm
  Where tha Tmacc to NYK’s thread?

• The Philosopher Posted: Feb.18 at 1:43 pm
  Thomas doesn’t have the motor to be a star. Maybe Michael can install a motor in Thomas. I doubt it, but, maybe.

• The D Train Posted: Feb.18 at 1:45 pm
  basketball gods in heaven, please, please bestow upon us a Joe Johnson or a Chris Bosh for our misery over this multitude of years. or, if you’re feeling very giving, we would be fine with a Dwayne Wade, instead. thank you, and praise be with you.

• LetsGetIt Posted: Feb.18 at 1:46 pm
  are those expiring contracts?

• Ryne Nelson Posted: Feb.18 at 1:48 pm
  LetsGetIt – Yessir.

• tavoris Posted: Feb.18 at 1:50 pm
  it seems like Acie Law has been traded every 3 months of his NBA career. This is an EXCELLENT pickup for the Bobcats. Murray will help the Bulls a bunch too. Poor Jannero Pargo…gonna disappear from the rotation now.

• T-Money Posted: Feb.18 at 1:52 pm
  allenp, betcats – seems to be that they gave up a lot, flip is a dude who truly doesn’t give a eff (in the right way). he has no problems taking and making big shots. to me, he’s a slightly worse version of jamal crawford. who’s getting buckets for them off the bench now? perhaps im biased because i watched flip play really, really well vs cleveland this year but that seems like a lot to give up. i mean ty thomas has talent but he is in his 4th year and we’re still talking about his potential, that says it all right there.

• The D Train Posted: Feb.18 at 1:57 pm
  All the top draft picks we’ve had over the last 10 years, and other than Rose, we’ve got dick to show for it: Jay Williams, Eddy Curry, Tyson Chandler, Lamarcus Aldridge (traded for Tyrus Thomas), Elton Brand, Marcus Fizer, Chris Mihm (traded for Jamal Crawford), Captain Kirk and Ben Gordon. Those are the Bulls lottery picks since 1999. Not a single top-tiered superstar among them. Brand and Aldridge are probably 2nd or 3rd banana’s at best. Gordon falls just behind them, and Crawford probably fits into about the same category as BG. Williams, Fizer, Curry are absolute busts. It’s no wonder that Chi-Town as blown on the donkey sack for the past decade. Rose is our shining light, but the cat needs some help, and from our recent past, it sure as hell aint coming from the draft. If we strike out on this years crop of FA’s, I’d say it’s bound to be another long decade in the Windy City.

• tavoris Posted: Feb.18 at 1:59 pm
  @T-Money….call me crazy, but I think Jackson’s and Wallace’s personalities will impact Thomas in a good way. He needs to play with a little bit of “nasty” in him-which is something both of those guys have in abundance.

• Tommy Patron Posted: Feb.18 at 2:03 pm
  Yes!

• Allenp Posted: Feb.18 at 2:05 pm
  T-MOney
  They were still talking about Chauncey’s “potential” in his fourth year as well…
  Thomas is sensitive, but he has talent. I think Flip does one thing well, and that’s score in isos. He doesn’t pass, he doesn’t defend. Maybe now that they’ve gotten rid of Flip they can give DJ more minutes and see what he can really do.
  I like a starting five of Felton, Jackson, Wallace, Thomas and Chandler. They can bring Diaw, Nazr and D.J. off the bench. Plus, Thomas and Chandler are expiring deals.
  I don’t see how you can honestly look at the situation and say Jordan sucks at being a GM. He ain’t great, like the dudes for the Rockets or Thunder, but he’s better than a lot of cats.

• Reemo Posted: Feb.18 at 2:30 pm
  I’m sorry. I was saying the Bobcats aren’t going to be good for a while. The Bulls better get a good FA this summer or they won’t be good for a while. I like DRose and all but he couldn’t carry the team to the ship with the most physically gifted team in the NCAA that year. No way he can do it with less in the NBA

• T-Money Posted: Feb.18 at 2:44 pm
  allenp – good point about chauncey. i was a big believer in tyrus thomas (he oozes talent) but his attitude has put me off recently. the one thing taht flip did well was very necessary on this bobcats team because they can’t score. at all. we’ll see… no one can create offense on this team besides jax and crash. / about mj: its not the moves that are being questioned, it’s whether mj is involved in those deals at all or if he’s playing golf at scottsdale right about now.

• Allenp Posted: Feb.18 at 3:02 pm
  T-Money
  People criticize him when the Bobcats make bad decisions, then say he’s not involved when they make good moves.
  I don’t get that. It reminds of Isaiah in New York. Yes, they both made mistakes, but they also made good decisions. It seems like folks are incapable of considering the good and the bad or something.

• Bro. D. Posted: Feb.18 at 3:06 pm
  Diop, welcome to even less minutes.

• JoeMaMa Posted: Feb.18 at 3:22 pm
  More than one person has said MJ is the GM. He’s not. It’s Rod Higgins. I know he’s an Jordan guy, but Jordan is notoriously absent from the day-to-day affairs of the team. I’m sure MJ signs off on the deals after taking a look, but if we’re going to respect the moves the Bobcats have been making, let’s respect Higgins as a driving force.
  Jordan’s currently living a life that Muslims hope for when they die.

• J-Ro Posted: Feb.18 at 3:24 pm
  AllenP. Isiah did make a good desicion. If he didn’t give a lot of bad contracts, we wouldn’t have too much to talk about. We need good GM’s and bad ones as well to make it balanced.

• Tommy Patron Posted: Feb.18 at 3:28 pm
  While I agree that Tyrus Thomas DOES still have great potential, I feel the comparison to Billups may be a tad misleading. Thomas plays a position that is far less demanding than the 1. It is more understandable for a point guard to take time to fulfill his potential than a skinny “power” forward.

• BETCATS Posted: Feb.18 at 3:46 pm
  Bro D – thats a given since he is injured now

• tavoris Posted: Feb.18 at 3:56 pm
  Tommy-actually, the reverse is true. The NBA is a guard-oriented league, and the rules actually make it easier for guards to be productive.

• Allenp Posted: Feb.18 at 4:06 pm
  Joe Mama
  Thanks for clearing that up. I was unaware of that fact and thought MJ was the GM. If he’s not the GM, then why do people get upset that he’s not involved in daily decisions? What’s the problem?
  J-Ro
  Wilson Chandler, Nate Robinson, Mardy Collins, Renaldo Balkman, David Lee, Jamal Crawford.
  Isaiah made more than one good decision. He was mediocre, not horrible.

• T-Money Posted: Feb.18 at 4:07 pm
  i have to co-sign tavoris, bigs do take time to develop (e.g., jermaine o’neal). guards like jennings and evans can basically make noise from the jump because you’Re not allowed to touch anybody on the perimeter. i still think that ty kinda sucks though.

• tavoris Posted: Feb.18 at 4:11 pm
  MJ is not the GM, but when they hired him, they made it clear that he’s the one making the basketball decisions for the Bobcats. MJ did do a smart thing by hiring Higgins-which coincided with the Bobcats suddenly making smart personnel decisions.

• Tommy Patron Posted: Feb.18 at 4:46 pm
  Tavoris-I can agree that the rules are designed now to make it easier for guards to penetrate, but that doesn’t make them able to make the right play or even know what the right play is to make their teammates better. Jennings and Evans have nice looking scoring averages due to having the ball in their hands all the time and the relative weakness of their teams.

• tavoris Posted: Feb.18 at 4:51 pm
  Tommy-the rules make the game easier on guards. Their knowledge of the right play isn’t the point.

• Retrobat Posted: Feb.18 at 4:51 pm
  Tyrus Thomas = Stromile Swift

• tavoris Posted: Feb.18 at 4:55 pm
  @BETCATS-I kno ur geeked about this trade, but did u kno that the Cats tried to trade DJ to the Pacers for TJ Ford?

• Logues Posted: Feb.18 at 4:56 pm
  Retrobat= retard

• Logues Posted: Feb.18 at 4:57 pm
  Retrotard

• Tommy Patron Posted: Feb.18 at 5:19 pm
  Tavoris-You must be right, developing knowledge of the game is totally independent of fulfilling potential. So ALL guards are automatically great now, right?

• J-Ro Posted: Feb.18 at 5:33 pm
  AllenP. That’s my point. He has made some good ones but we need GM’s to make bad ones too or else there wouldn’t be any “salary dummping moves” in the L. A lot of teams benefit from bad contracts eventhough it sounds weird.

• BETCATS Posted: Feb.18 at 8:21 pm
  Tavoris – i heard. That actually would have been a good trade. But we are now gonna get Mike James to take Flip’s old spot. FYI to everyone else on here; Rod Higgins is our GM, not MJ.

• Bro. D. Posted: Feb.19 at 12:30 am
  Cats got Theo Ratliff too. Me thinks they are gearing for a playoff run.

• Sam Raphael Chadwick Posted: Feb.19 at 7:22 am
  The Chicago trade is good Tyrus is not playing to the level of Taj Gibson and it gives the other rookie James Johnson a bit extra court time plus Flip is a good scorer which the Bulls need

• tavoris Posted: Feb.19 at 9:11 am
  @tommy-I think knowledge of the game SHOULD BE tantamount to a player fulfilling their potential. However, we’d be lying to ourselves if we believed in that fantasy.