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Monday, February 1st, 2010 at 9:00 am  |  93 responses

Post Up: Lakers Defeat Cs

While LeBron and the Cavs roll over the Clips.

by Holly MacKenzie / @stackmack

Man, alive. It’s been a wild weekend of basketball.

Let’s start out by sending some well wishes to Chris Paul who has to get arthroscopic surgery on his knee to repair a tear in his meniscus. I know what everyone is going to say, but they’ve got to move those cameramen sitting baseline. They’ve got cameras with zoom on them, they can be pushed back a bit. I know people pay lots of money for those seats, but dammit, is it going to take a star taking a season-ending injury before they think about it?

Okay, sorry for the rant.

Since we’re talking about the Hornets, holy rookie love. Darren Collison started in place of Chris Paul on Saturday night and he led the Hornets to an overtime victory against the Memphis Grizzlies. 17 points, six rebounds and 18 assists. Oh, yes. The rookie was killing.

That’s awesome.

Here in Toronto, the Raptors went up by 16 in the third quarter against the Pacers and then, of course, allowed them to come back and tie the game at 97. For the final 7:21 of the game, Indiana had just one made field goal and allowed the Raptors to finish on a 20-5 run. Yeah. That was the ball game. Give me a heart attack, make me scrap my story in the fourth and have to start over, then pull out the victory. Sounds about right for the Raps.

The win was their fifth straight and Bosh had another monster night, finishing wth 26 points, 15 rebounds, seven assists and two blocked shots. Dude’s good. Really, really good.

You know who else is good? Kobe Bryant. Overcoming an awful night from the floor, a sprained ankle and Lord only knows how many other ailments, Kobe hit the game-winning shot for the Lakers. In Boston. Oh, the game meant more than the Lakers will let on. What did you think of the offensive foul that was called on Paul Pierce when Ron Artest ended up five-deep in the crowd near the end of the game? I didn’t see the game live, only saw the highlights afterwards and I’m still not sure what I think.

I almost get disappointed every time Ray Allen misses a big three. It’s just more fun when he makes them and lives up the rep of being that clutch amazing shooter, you know?

Going back to Saturday night, um… Andre Miller scoring 52 points. Two shy of the Blazers franchise record held by Damon Stoudamire. Yeah. The guy was unconscious against the Mavs and yet, somehow they allowed him to get the ball again and again. Craziest part, he attempted (and made) just one 3-pointer and only shot eight free throws. That’s INSANE for a 50-point night. As I’ve been saying for awhile, the NBA Gods reward you when you stay home on the weekend to watch bball.

In Cleveland, LeBron James showed how insanely good he is, scoring 23 points in the opening 12 minutes as he helped the Cavs go up 46-20 at the end of the first quarter against the Clippers. Didn’t see a second of this one, but looks like I didn’t need to, as Cleveland owned the game from the jump. Bron finished with 32 points and 11 assists. Shaq had 16 and 12. Baron scored 30 for the Clippers, but it wasn’t nearly enough as Cleveland hit 16 3-pointers and shot 60 percent beyond the arc.

The poor Nets lost another close one, this time to the Sixers, falling 83-79.

Steve Nash had 11 points, eight rebounds and 16 assists, Amar’e Stoudemire scored 36 points to go with 11 rebounds and the Phoenix Suns were able to take down the Rockets in Houston, 115-111 in overtime. It looked as though Aaron Brooks was going to give the Rockets extra life when he perfectly missed (sounds weird, but really, it was perfect), a free throw intentionally and jumped in to get the offensive rebound, but was called for a lane violation.

Efficiency line of the night: Kevin Durant: 45 pts, 16-21 fgs, 2-3 3pt fgs, 11-11 fts, 11 rebs 2 asts, 2 stls.

My goodness. Kevin Durant is a ballllllller. That’s a ridiculous line and I love it. Love OKC, who took down Golden State 112-104 on KD’s big night. Russell Westbrook also had 28 points and eight assists.

Okay, okay. Bedtime for me. I know there’s a ton of other things I haven’t mentioned yet, but it’s getting late over here and I’m a little scared my brain is going to do something silly like type “phased” instead of “fazed” or something. Haha. I’ll catch you guys later.

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  • http://juan.garcia@computershare.com That’sWhatSheSaid

    Celtics should be thankfull that Bynum didn’t play in that 2008 finals. Lakers could easily be working on a three-peat.

  • vtrobot

    That “foul” on pierce was ridiculous. Shouldn’t end a game like that.

  • http://juan.garcia@computershare.com That’sWhatSheSaid

    and that goal tend on Odum should’ve not been called one, and that rebound by Perkins that hit the camera should’ve not gone to the Celtics, and…

    The game is over… live with the results. Referees make mistakes… it’s part of the game! Period!

  • http://Slamadamonth.com Mvp23100

    Way to choke in the last two minutes celts still a solid team but i dont know they’ll be in the conf finals to see cleveland good finish by 24 though bron was shooting from half court like it wasnt shit Cavs are rolling right now 23 got that mvp locked and that andre miller game suprised me thats why i dont get excited over big scoring games like that 81 because i’ve see mediocre players get 50-60 pts so you know what a good player can do when hot

  • http://juan.garcia@computershare.com That’sWhatSheSaid

    Plus, you can’t etend your arm on offense. Automatic foul on the dribbler.

  • http://juan.garcia@computershare.com That’sWhatSheSaid

    extend that is

  • http://Slamadamonth.com Mvp23100

    @thatswhatshesaid dont start that bynum shit he’s GARBAGE sloppy very little skills and explosiveness no face up game really and he gets shook easily lakers came out aggresive tryna shake the soft label by the 3rd that shit wore off boston took control and la fans thought it was a wrap

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the Balla

    omg when I seen that play last night, when Peirce pushed off. I was just thinking about how many people on this site are going to be like a big baby “: ( that call was bullsh1t, Kobe is a b1tch, Artest this, and that” lol. Go lakers you motherless fu(ks … lol anyways.
    Sucks for CP, he might as well take the season off, no point in coming back for like 10 games. The only way he should come back and play is if they are in, or have a chance of being in the playoffs.
    p.s. I love KD!!!

  • letsmotor

    that may’ve been technically a foul, but still, that’s one hell of an acting job by ron ron and a tight call for the end of a close game.

    any way, even though they lost, i’m happy to see the celtics starting to look like the celtics again. gotta say, they played great d (who says ray allen can’t play d?!), swarming kobe like it was 2008.

  • http://myspace.com/showbread Bryan

    Kevin Durant should really be a darkhorse mvp candidate. He’s young but so what 30 points 7 boards 3 assists ridiculous percentages. The thunder in playoff contention? Dudes a beast.

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the Balla

    Thanks thatswhatshesaid … these guys, lol just looking for anything little thing to say why the Lakers shouldn’t have one. But… Ray had great D on Kobe when he hit that shot. I didn’t think it was going to go … oh wait, yes I did.

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the Balla

    I like what Doc Rivers said after the game “well I think Kobe pushes off too” lol.

  • jumpman3224

    Co-sign @ThatsWhatSheSaid. That game wasn’t all that well officiated, but that’s part of the game and Pierce should not expect to get away with a blatant arm extension offensive foul. Kobe’s sense of the moment is unbelievable. I don’t think there is another player in the league that is less worried about how poorly he’s been shooting when it comes time for the last shot and the game is on the line. I’m encouraged by Bynum’s play yesterday. On multiple occasions he followed up getting scored on, by being aggressive and taking it right at KG or Perkins. That is a good sign for a young big man. Also, Phil had him on the court down the stretch which is something you wouldnt have seen last year.

  • http://myspace.com/showbread Bryan

    Artest looked like Vlade Divac on that play but he did actually trip too. Good sell.

  • jumpman3224

    Also KD is a beast, that statline is all-world.

  • JoeMaMa

    hahah James, I think Doc still complains like he’s playing in the game!! I think NBA refs need to carry around boxes of tissues for all the cry babies in the L. But carrying that, in addition to the nightly point spreads page and mafia walkie talkie could be burdensome.
    Also, too bad for CP3. I always thought Rodman did the right thing back then; this league has no soul.
    Oh, and how about Amar’e's remark about how he’s glad to be away from home? That trade is a breath away.

  • kobesbestfriend

    that shot explains why Kobe is better than Lebron

  • T-Money

    Of coure, kobesbestfriend, LeBron has never made a game-winner in like, at least a week. / That was the correct call on Pierce, I’m just really surprised that they called it at that moment (and that wasn’t the first push off of the game). Stars always push off for their stepback J. Pierce, Kobe, Wade, Bron, Brandon Roy, etc. Should the ref go for the correct call or consistency? Anyways, Boston can’t get mad at that because that’s not why they lost the game. They were leading by 11 in the 4th.

  • T-Money

    On and the 4th quarter was exactly why I’m still not sold on Rondo as a top pg despite the numbers. The game slowed down, teams were playing halfcourt and Rondo was completely useless. The Lakers were sagging off of him when he was at the FREE THROW LINE. One time, he passed up an open J to do some kind of running one hander and travelled. Embarassing. Defenders are running away from him when he catches the ball, daring an NBA all-star pg to make a wide open 18 footer.

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the Balla

    Man, Rondo has a SICK fake behind the back pass. I never seen him do that before … I felt like stabbing my eyes out.

  • takeone

    one shot dont make you better than look at Sundiata Gaines Lebron is now better than Kobe he is the best player in the league hands down he younger and quicker, but kobe is still the best closer in the league when it comes to close games the Celtics are still trying to get in the groove come playoff time if everyone stay healthy they will be a better team and remeber lebron beasted against the lakers this year and probably will win it all because the cavs are going to big in another player to seal the deal

  • d’bri

    I’m saying this as a C’s fan. pierce pushed off, an easy call. This game wasn’t lost on that call. Bottom line is the Cs are not an elite team now. until they can rebound, they wont be. Sheed is terrible and kills them. he is too slow on the rotations on D, and murders them offensively. the worst thing that can happen is that he hits a 3, then he keeps shooting em. terrible. can someone explain why people insist that he can shoot from deep? i’ve yet to see evidence that this is true. he’s Antoine Walker – the fat Toine that is.

  • http://ww.kb24.com The Seed

    Great win for our Lakers, I am encouraged by Artest finally showing his mean side, by getting in Pirece head, knocking the cry baby Garnett down on the ground– all Garnett did was clap his hands and laugh, where is the Garneet that talks smack(big punk). Also Gasol showed toughness with the over the hill Sheed trying to be intimdiating, didn’t work and Bynum made KG look like the rook after Garnett talked junk on making jumpshots. I like the way my Lakers played and Kobe of course made an unbelieveable shot, give him credit, he took a easy shot to me, because it was a straight line jumper, for those who play basketball, just had a weak defender in front of him, C’s should have had the other Allen on him. Boston is the 4th best team in East and could have a early first round exit. Trade Allen for young talent and play Giddeons, Billy Walker and other players. They are wasting good talent on that bench and Doc should be called out for that, because when those players play, they play. LAKERS WIN, C’s Lose and I am Glad the Lakers acted like they just won the TITLE, because the Celtics would have been worse, with the little Eddie House leading the way.

  • kobesbestfriend

    that artest signing over ariza is looking like a genius move

  • http://Slamadamonth.com Mvp23100

    Kobebestfriend thats bullshit and you know that late in the season artest will hurt the team artest was younger and bought many things to the table artest isnt even doing his job locking people up especially not bron who you might have to see in the finals

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the Balla

    I wouldn’t say genius man, lol… not even close.
    Seed… good win but come on. lol patriotism towards the Lakers eh?

  • http://www.yahoo.com Logues

    ray ray is an underrated defensive player, he d’d up kobe really good that whole game. also, for all the rondo haters that dont think he’s one of the top pgs in the leauge, stop the hatin. dude was ballin yesterday, and really if it wasnt for him the c’s would not have been in that game

  • http://digitalthread.com AlbertBarr

    Artest, come playoffs, will be playing the Rodman-esque role for the Lakers. Sure, Ariza was good, but he cant get into someone’s head like Ron-ron…it is an under-rated part of his game. And yes, in the past it has gotten him in trouble, but in the long run, other than in Indy, his psycho mind games DO get the other star player ruffled to a degree. I think this will help the lakers make it through the west to the finals…at that point, if they are playing Orlando or Boston, he still might be effective in that role. I dont think that ish is going to work against Cleveland this year though. The NBA where ROn Artest happens.

  • A.

    Laker fans never cease to amaze me.

  • Tom

    The announcers were all on Rondo’s jock last night. He definitely deserves the all-star selection. He reminds me a lot of Payton when he first entered the league. No mid range game, deadly off the the dribble, etc. As much as he irritates me, it will be fun watching him develop over the next few seasons.

  • http://digitalthread.com AlbertBarr

    Very insightful A. I have never read a more thorough and well thought out comment.

  • Tom

    And how is Bynums posterization of KG not the slamadaday? The dunk sure shut KG up quick.

  • ciroqobama

    Ughhhh… Lakers fans are gross.

  • T-Money

    Sometimes I wonder if I dislike the Lakers themselves or if it’s just a by-product of their crazy homer-ish delusional fans.

  • A.

    @ALbertBarr: “that shot explains why Kobe is better than Lebron ” And then: “that artest signing over ariza is looking like a genius move”. Ask kobesbestfriend to elaborate on his comments. I don’t see anything thorough or well thought out about those two comments, which were ridiculous if you think about it for a second.

  • riggs

    aww this page is the epitome of why laker fans are idiots.

  • http://digitalthread.com AlbertBarr

    HOnestly, I am a Kings fan who, when we are playing the Lakers, will hate them as much as the next guy. But anyone who thinks there has been delusional pro-lakers ranting on here today should try and give an example of what was said and why it is ludicrous. Celtics are lame, Paul Peirce pushed off of Ron and Kobe hit a great shot. Ray had a good look to and just couldnt get it. Ron may have been acting a little bit but I seem to remember Paul Pierce in the 2008 finals putting his oscar performance on full display with his “knee” injury that required him to leave the court. this page is the epitome of why Lakers haters are idiots.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    laker fans are a necessary evil in this world. like fire ants, janice from friends, or diarrhea. You want to get rid of them, but its f***in impossible

  • http://ww.kb24.com The Seed

    James this is patriotism, I plege allegiance to the Lakers, where Kobe will be the all time LA scorer, where Kareem played and became all time NBA scorer, where Magic became the leader of SHOWTIME as greates PG ever and James became Worthy of his praise, where Gasol was stolen for a package of rejects, where Phil and Pat became the player’s coach you would want and where Norm was sent packing like Nixon, where Horry established himself as the greatest role player ever and where Shaq on company time had his greatest years ever, where Fisher fished the Lakers out of some jams and where Eddie tried to play up to the Jone’es and where Nick the Quick realized it was time to quit and where Wilt earned his nickname as the STILT and where West lost alot of the big games to the best, but got the LOGO as replacement I guess for losing eight titles. I REST!!! GO LAKERS!!!

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Artest flopped like a motha. But, hey that’s a part of basketball. Celtics shouldn’t have let the Lakers come back. When you’ve got a team down, you stomp on their necks.

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the Balla

    Barr – Good call on Peirce, I will NEVER forget that lol. Left in a wheel chair!!!
    I agree Allen… the Lakers should have lost. But the Cavs won!! And their record is untouchable.

  • http://myspace.com/showbread Bryan

    Rondo is the best player on the celtics.

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the Balla

    If Rondo keeps doing that fake behind the back pass, I hope he ends up being part of an acted out protest to re-enact the saw movies and he gets chained up in a basement and is forced into a decision that he has to saw off his right arm or to stop doing that fu(king move.

  • kudos

    Pierce’s pushoff was hilarious and extremely blatant. What’s funny though, is this was Pierce’s go-to-move during the 08 finals, and garnetts go-to (illegal screens) were never called even once.

    Only person artest could guard well is the slow as molasses Pierce.

  • http://www.realcavsfans.com Anton

    Spurs are still done.

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the Balla

    Anton, your face is done.

  • T-Money

    Yeah, KG’s illegal screens are downright comical at this point. I don’t those bodychecks are legal even in the NHL.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Spurs make me sad. How can Duncan be having such an amazing year, and the team be so mediocre?
    I blame Manu and Tony.
    And that bum Richard Jefferson who I KNEW wouldn’t be able to replace Bowen.
    Jason Kidd should have been MVP when he took Jefferson and Martin to the Finals. There is no doubt.

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the Balla

    Allen … for as long as I have read your sh1t on SLAM. You saying Kidd should MVP is the truest sh1t you ever wrote!!!

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the Balla

    should be***

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Cheryl

    OMG, what happened to the Grammy’s?? A better question is ‘what happened to the music biz?? Just an off-topic rant.

  • http://fashionsensei.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/jackie-moon.jpg Jackie Moon

    Note on Pierce’s offensive foul: Stiff arming is only allowed in football, not basketball.

  • http://myspace.com/showbread Bryan

    Where are my dudes man?

  • http://digitalthread.com AlbertBarr

    Very True Jackie. Maybe Pierce was thinking it was the pro bowl on that last play?

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com DP

    Like seeing Pau not act like a little B#tch for once in his career. Especially with the little head nod towards sheed in the early parts of the game.

  • LA Huey

    James, you know that Rondo move is revolutionary. Stop hating.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com DP

    @Cheryl the grammy’s were absolutely horrible. I wasn’t even hyped up for the drake, wayne, em performance either. Looks like they are trying to shun hip hop out of the performances from now on.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Pete Maravich came up with that “revolutionary” move. Rajon Rondo, just learned it, and his OCD has forced him to use it 4 times a game for the last 3 years

  • LA Huey

    Allenp, I hear you. The fact Nash is a back-to-back MVP and Kidd doesn’t have one on his resume still irritates me.

  • LA Huey

    nbk, you were just dropping some knowledge, right? I hope you don’t think I’m that dense.

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the Balla

    LA Huey – Yeah definitely lol. I feel like he is going to start inbounding the ball but before he inbounds he will fake behind the back. Or he will be on a break away and just do it.
    Kind of reminds me of when Cartman from Southpark pretends to have turrets syndrome… then he actually has it. I just feel like Rondo is going to be doing his daily routine and start doing it out in public and not understand what is happening.

  • http://www.realcavsfans.com Anton
  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    i doubted that you are that dense, but i did not doubt there are dummies that read these comments and believe everything everyone says. lol im just preventing a “rajon rondo is the Picasso of basketball moves” movement that will arise from some ignoramus misreading sarcasm

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I wonder if Rondo’s move even works anymore.
    Oh, and while the Clippers got smashed, B Diddy pulled of a Shammgod on a random fast break. Just saying.
    And the Nets are terrible. Damn, it’s kind of sad.

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the Balla

    I still use a Shammgod here and there. Works great. Sometimes a philly works too. But the refs can easily call carry lol.

  • http://slamonline.com Brad Long

    The Kobe dagger was nice but my favorite part of the game was when KG hit a jumper over Bynum and was running his mouth the entire way down the court only to have Bynum demand the ball in the post and sh!t in his cereal.

  • Sporting-Lisbon-Blazers

    get well soon CP3 and TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU HOLLY, those cameramans injurying someone it was only a matter of time, stern should look into that instead of thestupid sh1t he seems to me doing..also DRE MILLER 52 POINTS IN AN ELLITE TEAMS BUILDING WUTH ONLY 7 FREETROWS AND 1 3 POINTER, WITHOUT JUMPING!!! THAT DUDE IS AS OLD SCHOOL AS THEY COME, everybody should learn watching him play the game…

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com DP

    ^co-sign. Yes, Bynum made Mr. Garnett eat his Wheaties on that one.

  • Sporting-Lisbon-Blazers

    and about C´s LAL EXACLY WHAT BARD LONG SAID…KG was talkin sh1t only to be murdered seconds later by bynum, now that gave me a smile, and I dont even like the fake show!

  • LA Huey

    James, if he ever “Rondoes” on an inbound, I will buy his jersey, wear it to pick-up games, and do at least two Rondoes a night. btw, what’s a “Shamgod”? sounds like I’m missing out.

  • http://www.funplayonline.com Fun play online

    I’m happy for the Raps, although they should be doing better.

  • T-Money

    KG is such a front runner. For real. Notice that when he’s comfortable he’ll talk trash to someone but when he’s not too sure, he’ll scream and yell at the crowd or no one in particular. He was pulling the latter vs Cleveland in the first game of the season because he knew that Shaq wasn’t playing that sh…

  • http://www.slamonline.com James the Balla

    LA, just look it up on youtube. it’s a move that a streetball player/hero made up. I miss bone collector though!!!

  • http://nicekicks.com meloMan2.0

    hey James, congrats on the win… but i believe YOU were the first person to comment on the fact that pierce pushed off.. like no one argued that before you said it… u won, u don’t have to always look for problems… just saying

  • rob

    Pierce clearly pushed off. I don’t get the “I’m still not sure what I think” part. Are you kidding McKenzie???

  • rob

    @Brad Long yeah! he sh!t in his cereal and made him eat it.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I think Pierce used his off arm, but I think Artest was clearly flopping. Wasn’t there supposed to a rule about flopping. No way Pierce hit him that hard.
    If we’re cracking down on off arms, then a lot of people in the league are in trouble. Just saying.

  • http://fashionsensei.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/jackie-moon.jpg Jackie Moon

    @Allenp – There is no “crack down”. The stiff arm was just too obvious to be ignored. Players can usually hide that if they drive baseline, but not from the top of the key, in open view.

  • Heals

    For those overly excited or the others that are a little bitter, check your calendars it’s Feb. 1st and the Finals are in June ya’ll…

  • http://digitalthread.com AlbertBarr

    This is not an overly-excited debate for SLAM, Heals.

  • http://www.need4sheed.com Tarzan Cooper

    baron pulled a shammgod?! i hope its in the highlights, im gonna go look now. la huey is a simpleton.

  • http://raptorsrevelry.blogspot.com/ Aaron

    The Lakers lost that game in the second half, so it makes the Celts look that much worse letting it get away.

    PS. It was a messy game to watch. I’m surprised no ones mentioned anything.

  • http://raptorsrevelry.blogspot.com/ Aaron

    PPS. Chris Bosh named POW. No discussion.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Tarzan
    Yeah, it was nice. He pulled it off at the top of the key on a fast break, then finished with a nice layup. He took over for a stretch in the third, then he went back to cruising.
    Man, you know what has been irking me lately? How poorly certain NBA players handle fast breaks. Way too many of them run to the three point line, or fail the correct pass. It’s bothersome.

  • http://dsjfhklf.com Jukai

    Allen: That has been noticed over here too. Remembers the Bulls’ fast breaks where no one ever dribbled because it was all touch passes that kept the defense clueless? What in the world happened… now it’s one guy running full speed while his teammates look clueless.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Jukai
    Yeah, it doesn’t make sense. Is it selfishness or something else?
    I saw the Sixers fail to execute 3 on 1 fast breaks last night. That’s just inexcusable.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    In the future, either Darren Collison or Chris Paul are going to have to leave the Hornets. Collison is too good to be a back-up.

  • http://www.slamonline.com barnabusb

    Half the time the offensive player bringing the ball up the center of the court crashes into the defensive player waiting for him and is called for an offensive foul. Lame.

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    Westbrook and Durant are shaping up to be one of the best Guard-Forward combinations in the league.
    And Monta Ellis and Corey Maggette deserve to be on better teams. Actually, pretty much the entire Warriors’ roster deserves to be on a team with better coaching and management…

  • http://www.slamonline.com melvin ely

    hate to say this, but that 52 point performance by Dre is only going to make him even more tradeable come trade deadline. Watch for it.

  • J

    Jukai: question, does your suns count as one of those “one guy running full speed” fastbreak? cause me i don’t think so. that run n gun was one of the most beautiful in history.

  • http://dsjfhklf.com Jukai

    J: Yeah, but they don’t do that anymore. The Suns of previous years all had an entire roster that could pass: Joe Johnson, Richardson, Jackson, Barbosa, Bell, Diaw, House, James Jones, even Kurt Thomas was somewhat decent on the break.
    So you had guys who were just great at handling the ball.
    But even they weren’t like some of these teams in the 90s on the break. A lot of the break was someone throwing it to Nash who threw it to someone who was WELL AHEAD OF ANYONE ELSE. Amare and Marion could take off from near the free throw line, so yeah, it was beautiful, but it was much different from, let’s say, showtime magic, where they were fast but REALLY relied on constant quick passing spread around the floor. That has been lost on the NBA, I think it’s because the NBA today relies more on immense speed, and a lot of these guys can’t pass going that fast.

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