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Tuesday, March 9th, 2010 at 9:00 am  |  122 responses

Allen Iverson Responds to Alcohol, Gambling Allegations

by Marcel Mutoni / @marcel_mutoni

Longtime Philadelphia columnist Stephen A. Smith of the Inquirer dropped something of a bombshell this weekend, essentially claiming that (according to his sources), Allen Iverson is more or less an alcoholic, with gambling issues to boot.

Given A.I.’s well-chronicled love of the nightlife (and casinos in particular), this was not exactly a shocking revelation.

With everything that’s been happening in his life of late — the loss of his job as an NBA player, the divorce filed by his wife, and the illness of his daughter — Iverson felt compelled to issue some kind of statement.

He did late last night, via the Twitter machine:

To my fans: You all know that my life isn’t perfect. I am going through some very tough times right now, like I am sure that we all do from time to time. However, I will stand tall like always with “rhino” thick skin.

Even though I have become used to hearing people say things about me that aren’t true, it still hurts. I encourage you to continue your ongoing support and I want you to trust that this is another obstacle in my life that, with God’s help I will overcome. God Bless You All.

Hours after the tweets were posted, I read a couple of misguided pieces on the web, in which the authors complained that Iverson chose to respond via Twitter, as though he somehow owes the world a larger explanation for what he’s currently going through.

Allen Iverson’s problems — whether they’re as serious as the media claims, or whether some things that have been written and said about him are untrue as he claims — are his, and his alone. What he chooses to share with the outside world isn’t really for us to critique.

One can only hope he eventually pulls through.

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  • jumpman3224

    Get well AI.

  • NAS

    i hope AI doesnt end up in jail or broke on the curb – would be a sad sad sad shame

  • JoeMaMa

    I’m sure we’ll get a multitude of views on this subject, but I think we can all agree that quoting his infamous ‘practice’ speech, which has become synonymous with anything AI on this site, can be put to rest.
    Hopefully his daughter recovers. And I’m done.

  • http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2010/02/tracy-mcgrady-hurt-yes-already-again/ L

    I wish the best for you A.I. I hope your daughter gets better so you can go for one last shot at a ring

  • http://www.slamonline.com wayno

    Man, if the claims are true, then this guy has alot on his plate right now…I feel bad for the man. Get well soon.

  • http://www.slamonline.com wayno

    Not to say that he didn’t have alot going on already…I hope his daughter gets well soon also.

  • http://myspace.com/heislegend Bryan

    Some things are just more important than basketball.

  • http://slamonline.com mvp23100
  • http://kb24.com Bigi

    Stephen A. Smith, a class act!

  • http://www.jebronlames.com JeBron Lames

    AI could use some nights on the town with JeBron Lames.

  • http://Gmail Dirty frank

    I’ve recieved much joy from watching you play A.I. Here’s hoping you can find some for yourself

  • karma strikes

    His clubbin habits r true tho. I work at the casino he was banned from n detroit for a short period, Greektown Casino. He was there so much he had his own personal suite for the whole yr that NO ONE else could use even when he wasnt there. Keep n mind this was durin his “back injury” as a piston. He strutted around wit his ‘cru thik’ and brother like he was an average joe. Ivo is nothin but a liar. FOOD FOR THOUGHT: Back injuries r known to linger. Funny he hasn’t had any reoccurring pain. Smh Allen Lie-verson!

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Cheryl

    Exactly, Mutoni. I wish Allen the best.

  • Micahel Scorn

    I can’t believe how one trade to Detroit can mess up Allen Iverson’s entire life.

  • robert stewart

    My prayers go out to AI. We often forget that the environment that some athletes are brought up in is very difficult and even living a multi million dollar lifestyle doesn’t solve all of life’s problems. Some times it makes things more difficult. There is no substitute for God, love, and happiness. Here’s hoping Iverson gets a healthy dose of all 3 as he lives to fight another battle.

  • Brian

    Does AI even have a daughter? Screamin A said on his radio show this morning that Rick Carlisle texted him and said it was a good article that hopefully would lead AI to getting the help he needs.

  • Rikson

    I wont believe anything he says anymore, or youll get fooled again and again and again and… Just a dougebag, who never was the best but always thought he is IMO

  • http://vandelay-industries.org Art Vandelay

    I’m Stephen A. Smith! EVERYTHING I say is important!

  • http://www.euroleague.net/competition/all-decade/main-page/i/65216/4259/euroleague-all-decade-candidate-dimitris-diamantidis?lang=en&itemid=65216&mid=4259&tabid=1143&itemname=EUROLEAGU DIMITRIS DIAMANTIDIS(click on my name)

    IVERSON!!!!!! STARBURY!!!! IVERSON!!!!!!!STARBURY!!!!!!IVERSON!!!!!! STARBURY!!!! IVERSON!!!!!!!STARBURY!!!!!!IVERSON!!!!!! STARBURY!!!! IVERSON!!!!!!!STARBURY!!!!!!IVERSON!!!!!! STARBURY!!!! IVERSON!!!!!!!STARBURY!!!!!!IVERSON!!!!!! STARBURY!!!! IVERSON!!!!!!!STARBURY!!!!!!IVERSON!!!!!! STARBURY!!!! IVERSON!!!!!!!STARBURY!!!!!!IVERSON!!!!!! STARBURY!!!! IVERSON!!!!!!!STARBURY!!!!!!IVERSON!!!!!! STARBURY!!!! IVERSON!!!!!!!STARBURY!!!!!!IVERSON!!!!!! STARBURY!!!! IVERSON!!!!!!!STARBURY!!!!!!

  • http://www.euroleague.net/competition/all-decade/main-page/i/65216/4259/euroleague-all-decade-candidate-dimitris-diamantidis?lang=en&itemid=65216&mid=4259&tabid=1143&itemname=EUROLEAGU DIMITRIS DIAMANTIDIS(click on my name)

    this kid is unbeliavable….for the last 3 years, no matter how much stupidity i expect from him, he goes on and tops my worst estimation/expectation….simply unbeliavable…..

  • http://slamonline.com Ben Osborne

    Well done piece, Marcel. AI must have so much resentment towards SAS.

  • http://www.euroleague.net/competition/all-decade/main-page/i/65216/4259/euroleague-all-decade-candidate-dimitris-diamantidis?lang=en&itemid=65216&mid=4259&tabid=1143&itemname=EUROLEAGU DIMITRIS DIAMANTIDIS(click on my name)

    and not to forget…. ” Allen ‘Kournikova of bball’ Iverson : one of the worst BASKETBALL players in the history of proffesional game” (of course that doesn’t take away anything from his selling potential.)

  • cramzy

    i still dont understand what Stephen A was trying to accomplish by putting the man on the blast considering everything he’s already going through. Did he really need the media amplifying these issues more? I like Stephen A but he down bad for that.

  • http://www.euroleague.net/competition/all-decade/main-page/i/65216/4259/euroleague-all-decade-candidate-dimitris-diamantidis?lang=en&itemid=65216&mid=4259&tabid=1143&itemname=EUROLEAGU DIMITRIS DIAMANTIDIS(click on my name)

    the other day someone said that he ”… would gladly trade places with Allen Iverson.” , i said that i hoped he was joking and then a kid (Tariq. ok not one of the brightest ones but whatever…) couldn’t believe me…it as simple as this: In this world you can live on your hops/speed up until 30 (max) then you got to rely on your brain/character. How could a smart person (forget Tariq,Hursty,Eboy,Allenp,etc) would ever wish to trade places with Iverson is a think of study….

  • http://www.slamonline.com/ Matt Lawyue

    Well said, Marcel.

  • http://Www.twitter.com Darksaber

    Spanny, we ALL know of your Iverson dislike, but please for the love of all that is slamonline, refrain from repeating the same tired Iverson hate tirades. U know i usually enjoy discussing with ya, but this is getting ridic. U got all that brainpower, find a different angle or victim to unleash on. AI & Starbury stopped being Baller-relevant. Be honest, you met them during one of their WC/Olympic tours and they treated ya badly?? Your hate burns so intensely, you only comment on AI pieces lately (and the EL recaps).

  • Logues

    i cannot stand stephen a. smith. the guy is a douche, and annoying as fu(k. hopefully iverson can get his life back together and maybe return to the league.

  • Mal Tempo

    I am shocked, shocked, shocked, to hear Iverson is a drunk.

  • Boy Sanchez

    Allen Iverson is one of the best basketball players in the history of professional game. End of story. He’s one of my favorite too, and I don’t care about all the others that say the opposite.

  • Boy Sanchez

    @Darksaber…: I totally agree with you. The Greek guy is a very smart one, but this thing about AI…

  • Jay

    I wish the future hall of famer the best and hope his daughter gets well. ppl need 2 respect dis man. hes done so much for our entertainment. i hope he comes back and wins a ring.

  • Stillballin

    I’m still a A.I. Fan.. I hope things turn out ok in your life..and get back to playing ball.. The game that we all love..god bless!!

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Darksaber
    Spanny already admitted that when AI was in college he was Iverson’s biggest fan. He loved his game and thought AI would transform the league.
    He became disenchanted with Iverosn’s performance in the League and has been on a campaign to tell the world of his chicanery ever since.
    Personally, I think Iverson didn’t take advantage of his full potential, but he still had a helluva a career, and showed some improvement over the years.
    Sadly, his off-the-court life has caught up with him. I hope he manages to pull-through, but things look bleak.
    I’m just constantly amazed at how much hatred folks have for a random professional basketball player. That is really amazing to me, and I actually love basketball.

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ Tariqُُ

    Spanny:
    You misunderstood me, Spanny. I didn’t say I didn’t believe you. I said I can’t believe that you and Plato are both Greek. That should be the argument to end racism right there.

  • MikeC.

    Just throwing this out there for everyone to chew on. Is Allen Iverson’s career really worthy of the Hall-of-Fame? In my opinion, this is why the NBA needs its own Hall-of-Fame. Iverson doesn’t qualify for the Basketball HOF as it recognizes professional, international and college achievements. Iverson didn’t win in college, internationally or in the pros. I think he’s in that second level of guys like Reggie Miller, Charles Barkley, etc. Guys that had good careers, did some great things, but fall short of HOF status. Of course, Barkley is already in but I think he should make it based on the Dream Team’s accomplishments, and as a contributor for his work on TNT. I’m really interested in what everyone else thinks about HOF worthiness. Should it be reserved for the greatest of the great (Jordan, Duncan, Russel, etc.)? Guys that helped others win (Dumars, Rodman, Pippen, etc)? I’m pretty torn on this issue as Iverson is just one ring away from being idolized forever as an all-time tough competitor and winner, instead of being remembered as the tough, stubborn kid that played his way until his body quit and his career flamed out. All personal issues and off-court drama aside, is Iverson a HOF guy?

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ Tariqُُ

    MikeC:
    Are you for real? Are you seriously saying that Barkley deserves HOF recognition in part because of his work on TNT?

  • Jon

    It’s a shame. It only seems a few short years ago when the cat was on top of the game. What’s goin’ on, AI?!?!

  • Th3_R3al_Chris

    I guess this means that I’m an alcoholic and have an addiction to gambling as well as passion for nightlife as well. I go out a few times a week and I love a few drinks and the occasional poker game. Seriously though, it’s not surprising that a millionaire finds himself spending money on distraction outlets when everything is falling apart. Especially when “it was all good just a week ago.” I feel for him. I also think that Dimitris is retarded and obsessed with Iverson.

  • http://www.euroleague.net/competition/all-decade/main-page/i/65216/4259/euroleague-all-decade-candidate-dimitris-diamantidis?lang=en&itemid=65216&mid=4259&tabid=1143&itemname=EUROLEAGU DIMITRIS DIAMANTIDIS(click on my name)

    @Dark…..:since you are tired of hearing the same things i won’t repeat the reason’s why i am writing on A.I. Of course this won’t stop me from continuing to write, if you remember (as you said) my previous reasoning. It is my duty to explain the reasons why A.I. has never been a BASKETBALL player for the good of the young guys starting to play/follow now the game. Of course both cartoons did nothing to me during the Olympics, i just saw them playing. What Allenp wrote on my opinion on Iverson in the beggining is 100%. You are not write that i comment only on A.I. and Euroleague articles, i also comment on dunks & kicks (cause i have dealed in the past a lot with both issues) on past SLAM-MAGAZINE articles and if there is any game that i actually saw. I don’t like to write on games or players i never saw (this is jukaitavoris’ expertise and he has been repeatedly “briliant” at it).Of course i partially excuse you for this cause i don’t expect you to follow every SLAMONLINE article.

  • http://www.euroleague.net/competition/all-decade/main-page/i/65216/4259/euroleague-all-decade-candidate-dimitris-diamantidis?lang=en&itemid=65216&mid=4259&tabid=1143&itemname=EUROLEAGU DIMITRIS DIAMANTIDIS(click on my name)

    @Tariq……:PLATO (platonas is the correct) WAS NOT Greek he was Athenian. In the ancient area that lies at the south of the Balkanian peninsula there were many city-countries like Athina, Sparti, Thiva, Korinthos etc….if you called Platonas ‘greek’ he would propably kill you. (what most don’t know is that he was 2 times Olympic champion on the ‘pankration’ , the toughest/most cruel Olympic sport ever )

  • http://www.euroleague.net/competition/all-decade/main-page/i/65216/4259/euroleague-all-decade-candidate-dimitris-diamantidis?lang=en&itemid=65216&mid=4259&tabid=1143&itemname=EUROLEAGU DIMITRIS DIAMANTIDIS(click on my name)

    @Mike C…..:let’s put it another way, if Dennis Rodman doesn’t make the Hall of Fame how on earth you can justify/expect the cartoon’s inclusion…??? Rodman had incredible rebounding numbers like A.I. had big scoring numbers with the main difference that Rodman’s numbers were WAY more efficient. Plus he was a great defender that sucrificed early on his career any chance to develop his offensive skills in order to fit his teams needs.It was a smart move that payed serious BASKETBALL dividents. 5 RINGS. Of course it was a stupid move from the perspective of the average fun (and most of my kids) who can appreciate nothing except scoring averages (videogame mentality). If A.I. doesn’t make the HALL the vast majority of the kindergarden will get mad,the great Dennis Rodman (like Dennis Johnson and others) is still out and nobody says a think….

  • peter

    how can you have efficient rebounding numbers?

  • http://fdjsklf.com Jukai

    As much as I dislike Iverson and am still disgusted with AI ditching work and his daughter go out and party with Jermaine Dupre, there are two things that I will still say:
    1) Iverson is a HOFer and one of the top-10 best shooting guards of all time (a list in which no European player makes)
    2) I’m not going to use Iversons’ addictions as a crutch for his behavior, but it is sad, and the dude DOES need help. There are too many sources reporting Iverson’s problems for Smith’s article NOT to be true… and I’m worried that this twitter is proof that Iverson’s still in denial. That ain’t good. Iverson still does a LOT of good with his money, and I don’t want to see the dude squander it all away on booze and alcohol; he deserves way better than that.
    Did Spanny just try and compare AI to Dennis Rodman? Christ…

  • Dru Ha

    Stephen A Smith is Allen Iverson’s greatest ever friend, for writing this piece.

    Gary Moore I hope you are reading this. You’ve helped support this spiraling downfall for too long as a YES MAN for Allen. The whole basketball world knows it.

    Bravo Stephen A, you are the best friend Allen Iverson’s ever had, one who is finally doing something to stop his cyber decline.

    Everyone knew the biggest secret about the booze and the gambling, the personal mismanagement and misbehavior. Seemed nobody who really cared about Iverson was willing to do anything about it. AI’s whole crew are on his payroll, they wouldn’t never break rank, those lecherous reptiles.

    Stephen A had nothing to lose by publishing this piece. He’s a real friend. And I commend him for taking this public.

    Iverson needed it.

  • http://fdjsklf.com Jukai

    Hahahah did Spanny just say Plato wasn’t Greek? Hahahahaahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

  • http://www.euroleague.net/competition/all-decade/main-page/i/65216/4259/euroleague-all-decade-candidate-dimitris-diamantidis?lang=en&itemid=65216&mid=4259&tabid=1143&itemname=EUROLEAGU DIMITRIS DIAMANTIDIS(click on my name)

    @peter….:i write ” Rodman’s numbers were WAY more efficient…. “, i ain’t writing “rebounding” (it is a statistical thing). More careful reading next time my little one before you attempt to correct big papa.

  • http://www.euroleague.net/competition/all-decade/main-page/i/65216/4259/euroleague-all-decade-candidate-dimitris-diamantidis?lang=en&itemid=65216&mid=4259&tabid=1143&itemname=EUROLEAGU DIMITRIS DIAMANTIDIS(click on my name)

    @jukaitavoris….:forget about Platonas, you can’t figure out much easier things.At the same time ,if you ever get near a serious ancient greek history professor(i doubt it) ask him about what i wrote…

  • http://fdjsklf.com Jukai

    Spanny: If any professor told me that, he’d be wrong. Dead wrong.
    Plato was (most probably) born and lived most of his life in Athens. The city of Athens during the classical period of Ancient Greece, was a city state of Attica, Greece. You should know about Athens today, since it is the CAPITAL OF F*CKING GREECE.
    If you’re trying to suggest that in during the time of Plato, Greece was divided into a large group of city-states and Athens can’t be considered “Greece”, then you’re going to have to explain to me which city-state your middle school teacher just told you was the ‘real greece’ because Classical Greek History over here is taught mostly from the perspective of the ATHENIANS because they had the richest culture. If you’re going to try and tell me that Greece didn’t exist back then, then your statement about Plato ‘punching me out because I called him Greek’ doesn’t make a lick of sense.
    If there is some sort of radically different history teachings over there, centering on how Classical Greece centered around a different area, please tell me now. Greece was unified because it was conquered by outside forces, unless you’re telling me that Macedon was the true Greece because it took over the majority of the city states at the end of what is considered classical greece.
    Oh no, I just went tit for tat with you. It’s too bad you’re too scared to go tit for tat with me on the Rodman thing because whenever we debate basketball, I embarrass you.

  • http://fdjsklf.com Jukai

    I’m beginning to think Spanny comes over here and says things he knows aren’t true, but wants to see who actually believes him.

  • Joey E.

    am i the only one who doesnt care?

  • http://www.euroleague.net/competition/all-decade/main-page/i/65216/4259/euroleague-all-decade-candidate-dimitris-diamantidis?lang=en&itemid=65216&mid=4259&tabid=1143&itemname=EUROLEAGU DIMITRIS DIAMANTIDIS(click on my name)

    @jukaitavoris……:my 4:43 comment is still all you need.

  • robb

    I wouldn’t be surprised if Iverson was a drunk and a gambler, but since Stephen A. Smith was the one who dropped the bomb, well, I don’t think it’s true.

  • http://fdksjlf.com Jukai

    No, not really spanny, but I didn’t expect an actual rebuttal from you anyway.
    Is Stephen A. Smith really been known to embellish the truth? That’s an honest question, I don’t usually follow him so I don’t really know.

  • Boy Sanchez

    Plato was Athenian but he was Greek as well. Just like the people from Sparta, Thiva, Korinthos etc. That’s why they all united to fight the Persians. That’s what I know from my greek education. Congrats to Jukai for his 5:01 comment. Spanny tried to embarrass him about his “lack” of history and Jukai was great again! Really, Jukai, I was impressed! And all Spanny did was to say the same thing twice. He didn’t have a new answer. Plus, no one really cares AT ALL what Plato did in the Olympics… I mean, that comment was so, so irrelevant… And don’t tell me that Rodman was the reason that Bulls had 5 rings. This is at least funny.

  • Jonny C

    wow, first that greek dude says that goran dragic is better than iverson, now he compares him to dennis rodman? i understand if you dont like the guy, but jesus, say something intelligent, and learn how to speak english in the mean time

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    If the world puts you up on a pedastal, the world will bring you down. Who cares if he is a drunk and gambler, this is who Chuck and Jordan are too. Plus AI has always been the on the edge kind of guy, that made him who he is on the bball court. He is a and one player who made it. Give him props he is one of the greatest players to ever play for his size and height. Plus I feel bad for AI, because on TNT people voted Steve Nash over him percentage wise on the player of the decade. Steve Nash got more votes than AI, to me this tells you how far AI has fallen.

  • http://www.sixers.com 360

    Spanny. You’re Greek and you don’t even know Classical Greece yourself. You’re only embarassing yourself. How is Plato not Greek?! So what if the Greeks were fractured into city-states? Any Greek was treated with civility and relative equality when he visited any ‘foreign’ Greek city state. Any non Greek was treated with contempt, ignorance and hatred. The concept of being Greek was already nearly half a millenia old at Plato’s birth, being mentioned in varying sources. You’re just being a pedantic tool because you can’t even stick to the topic of basketball. Relatively, it’s literally like you trying to argue Kobe is not American, but in fact a Philadelphian.

  • don

    get well AI. i’m still a believer, and yes, i’m getting your A13 shoes, they might be the last AI to drop,but you’re still my man!

  • backboard

    i gotta ask, what is the Illness of AI´s daughter? I mean, is it something that no other human being in all of history had? Or does he just not want to say?

  • http://www.slamonline.com melvin ely

    @360: and here I thought Kobe was a Philanderer.
    Zing!

  • http://PROTEGEMVP.COM DALLAS STOKES

    He’s not a alcoholic, he just drinks to much when he gambles. Who cares I personally dont like or get along with the dude. Honestly as one of the greatest players ever to play the game, remember he is human. Pray for him and his family and hope he as a man gets better. If you dont know him or ever been around him outside an arena you can do nothing more.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Pardeep

    Ill tell you all why Spanny hates AI. AI and his homeboys walked into a restaurant at the 04 Olympics in Athens. Spanny was sitting there wondering what the Du-rag is? and why Iverson’s shorts are so low? he saw tattoos and got scared and Iverson’s baggy shirt had a picture of Tupac raising the middle finger. AI gave Spanny and his buddies a dirty look because they kept staring . AI must have cracked a joke about one of them or Spanny confronted him and got dissed. Spanny hates AI and he hates hip-hop. Spanny also doesn’t know much about basketball because he compared AI and Rodman. Some other guy said AI shouldn’t make the Hall Of Fame. OMG! Dude is top 5 SG all time probably and top 30 all-time players. One bad season in Detroit and a sad ending in Philly doesn’t mean he didn’t have a legendary career. Hope AI gets through these hard times gets a trainer gets his explosion back and wins a ring with a contender then gives the league a middle finger.

  • http://Www.twitter.com Darksaber

    @Spanny: see? You throw out all that AI ridicule, and some of the “kids” (yeah, whats that about, not everyone here is a teen) are gonna hammer you when you try and make more serious points. Retire the kournikova of b-ball thing, buddy. And thanks for the memory trip, Allenp. Couldn’t quite remember why our greek friend hates the “cartoons” so much.

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  • T-Money

    i have no problem with what stephen a. wrote. he hasn’t been known to make up stories like vescey. some find him annoying but i don’t recall people questioning the veracity of his stories. ai’s life doesn’t seem to be going down the right path, i think it’s plain to see.

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  • MikeC.

    Tariq Posted: Mar.9 at 2:07 pm
    MikeC:
    Are you for real? Are you seriously saying that Barkley deserves HOF recognition in part because of his work on TNT?

    I was just alluding to a peculiar section that the HOF actually has. People can make the hall that never actually played the game at a high level. Ex. Dick Vitale made the hall as a contributor. Barkley could easily make it as a contributor even if he’d never played in the NBA, or won Olympic gold medals. My point about Iverson maybe not being a hall of famer has to do with the fact that he really hasn’t won much. He put up eye-popping numbers for a few years, but the 2001 season was really the only year that he won big-time, still getting erased by the Laker juggernaut. I’m on the fence with Iverson based on the fact that he didn’t win at any level. It’s the same argument I have for Ewing(and I loved Ewing’s game). He didn’t win enough in the pros to be considered a hall of fame NBA player. Ewing belongs in the hall since he won multiple Olympic golds and a NCAA championship. Iverson can’t claim that. To anyone saying Iverson is a top-5 SG of all time needs to relax a bit. Dude was pretty good, maybe top-10, but no way top-5.

  • MikeC.

    1) Jordan 2) Kobe 3) Jesus Shuttlesworth 4) Wade 5) Clyde the Glide. That’s just a quick 5 off the top of my head. I didn’t rank them in order of greatness, just 5 that had better careers than Iverson. That’s without getting into guys I never saw play like Jerry West, George Gervin, or even under-hyped guys like Joe Dumars. Iverson was/is a heck of a player, but there are better players than Iverson waiting on a call from the Hall. AI could still come back and re-write his legacy by being an instant offense combo-guard off the bench for a contender. Winning tends to erase a lot of bad memories.

  • OTSS

    Haters stay on ya grind!!!

  • Scottie Pimpin

    Steven A. Smith layed the smack down on all you b**ch *ss n****es, you can tell Steven A has alot of brotherly love for the Answer. good work Steven A.

    and to Iverson, hang in there , dont turn to alcohol for support, turn to Ganja leaf, Hall of Fame baby, we did it !!!!!

  • Micahel Scorn

    If Iverson is proud of being the most loved AND hated player in the NBA, why do his supporters complain about him having haters? Can’t have it both ways.

  • Jonny C

    its one thing for the guy to have haters, i understand that theres two sides to every story, and some people dont care for his style of play. how anyone could try and argue his skill level and quality of play is beyond me. his stats speak for itself, even if you dont think hes a top 20 alltime player (and i DO think he is a top 20 all-time), i dont understand how you can argue that hes not a great player at least of our generation. and spanny, i find him amusing most of the time, but when he goes and says dumb things like we all kids (i’m 24), and that goran dragic is better than iverson, and plato aint greek, he makes himself go from amusing to annoying

  • http://fdksjlf.com Jukai

    MikeC: I agree he’s not top five, but… Ray Allen and Joe Dumars…? Ehhhhh…

  • Weapon X

    The Answer!

  • http://www.slamonline.com Jaay

    ARE YOU KIDDING ME ALLEN IVERSON NOT TOP 5 SG EVER? NOT TOP 25 EVER? just look at this: http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/hof_prob_career.html

  • http://www.slamonline.com Jaay

    @Mike C: D-Wade and Ray Allen have not had better careers than Allen Iverson. Let me tell you how many things AI has done in his career and there are only 3 guys actively that have done more and even LeBron hasn’t accomplished more. 97 ROY, 11 time All-Star, 2 time All-Star game MVP 7 time All-NBA despite bad team records, 24,368 points over 5,500 assists, 27.0 ppg for his career and 6.2 apg, 4 Scoring titles and the 2001 NBA MVP. Most people talking about Iverson’s career don’t know that statistically he is the best player since Michael Jordan and pound for pound is the greatest ever. Top 25 All-Time.

  • Bryan

    Iverson: Class Act

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    @360,jukaitavoris,boysachez,Dark……:before you go on and ridicule yourself with your history misconceptions why don’t you start by googling a bit the word ‘greek’…? Then you go to a serious dictionary (not online ones), and only then you go a serious historian of the ‘greek’ history to explain you more…at the same time and judging on your take on much easier sublrcts (bball) i never expected more from your historic perspectives…it was really entairtaining except the case of boysanchez who should know better (but he is young and modern greek education sucks…).

  • ngoiekafita

    Lol @ Rodman’s numbers were WAY more efficient.
    Not to bash on The Worm his digits but we’re talking ’bout Iverson here! If Jordan or Pip were down, what would Rodders do? Would he take on the scoringload? Just imagine if Pip and Jordan weren’t on the squad that played the Reignman & Glove team.Yup, that would have been an ugly game for tha bulls(you also know what happens if you let Dennis and Brickowski alone)His numbers don’t tell the whole story. Iverson’s did.
    Meaning he carried his team to the finals, a team starring (not quite stars if you get what i mean) Aaron Mckie, Theo Ratliff, Jumaine Jones, Eric Snow and co vs Shaq, Kobe, DFish, Horry, c’mon! Philly was outclassed on the talent department but they fought with heart and Allen had the biggest, always finding a way to get it done for his squad. He was and remains the lil dude that every lil dude that will set foot on that NBA logo one day looks up to. Styles P said it best: point blank.

  • http://Www.twitter.com Darksaber

    *sigh*, last time i’m ever trying to reason with you, Antonis/Spanny. It’s obvious you enjoy the ridicule/drama connected with your comments. I’ll just steer clear of AI/Marbury posts in the future. As you were, soldier.

  • http://hoopistani.blogspot.com Hoopistani

    To the media: Leave AI alone!!! The guy has enough on his plate already to get critisized by the media every single day. It is justifiable if the criticisms come for his on-court play, but can we at least at him breathe through the alcohol/gambling/divorce/daughter situation?

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    @Dark…..:of course i enjoy it( some of the responses are truly hilarious) if i was feared to be commented on i would have never post anything. Most of the responses here (i mean their background concept) can be (not so)easily explained psychosociologically. But i would prefer not to go there.I mean, if my kids historical knowledge is so weak, imagine what will happen on other subjects (that have never been made movies/videogames).

  • RedRum

    Steven A is a little b**ch for calling out his friend publicly. Shameless what a journalist will do to get a story out… really sad… and I don’t like AI, but come on Steve A… come on..

  • http://fdksjlf.com Jukai

    Hahahahahaha, Spanny is still trying, the joke continues.

  • http://fdksjlf.com Jukai

    Yeah, I just asked my brother, a history major at UVM. Incredible how he couldn’t even figure out what Spanny was going on about.

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    @jukaitavoris…..:i was a history major more than 20 years ago. I know my english ain’t that good but when i say “a serious historian of the ‘greek’ history” i ain’t thinking about your big brother (or me 20 years ago). Anyway keep posting.

  • MoNiQuE

    Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see

  • MikeC.

    @Jukai – I was just throwing out some names that had nicer careers than AI. They may not have scored as many points, but both Jesus and Joe D were major contributors/leaders on championship teams. Joe D was a Finals MVP and the best defensive 2 of his era, and Jesus has the defining jumpshot of his era, while hitting huge bucket after huge bucket for the Celtics the last 2 years in the playoffs. Everybody knows all this, and it just comes down to being an opinion-dealie.

  • http://www.sixers.com 360

    @Spanny. “before you go on and ridicule yourself with your history misconceptions”… why dont you stop writing. I’ve majored in Ancient History and minored in Philosophy so dont tell me to go google anything about Plato or the Greeks, and don’t make arguments out of nothing. Ask any professor or scholar and they reply Plato was Athenian because they want to be particular and haughty. However, don’t make up ish over nothing; i.e. when someone calls Plato Greek. Read some classical sources like Platp himself, or Thucydides, or Aristotle, Polybius, Herodotus, Diodorus…. etc. on the concept of being Greek. Simply put, you diverted the tangent of the topic because you can’t even capably debate anything basketball related outside of Europe.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Perhaps Spanny should take some refresher/night/on-line/post graduate/summer school/cram classes regarding the history of the NBA and it’s players as WELL as the history of his country. Post a copy of a qualifying certificate on here before you marginalize the comment section again this season. At least wait until the season ends, so that the “kids” will be out of school and can respond to you accordingly.

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    @360…..: 1)it is not cause “…they want to be particular and haughty….” my little one, it is just that this is (was,will for ever be) the truth. 2)now that you figured out (it is never too late),please, go and help jukaitavoris’ big brother at the UVM (!!!!!).

  • FoCo

    Is this the guy we want all the “lil dudes” lookin up to though? I think not.

    (side note: does nobody think its a bit presumptuous to tell the Greek dude Greek history)

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    @all my kids….:PLEASE do not read FoCo’s 10:47 am (or i’ll lose all the fun/laugh). Keep posting your ‘briliant’ views on the subject !!!

  • http://www.sixers.com 360vue

    @FoCO. Err you are missing the point. Spanny is right saying Plato is Athenian, thats not in dispute. What is disputable is the bullsh!t manner he makes snide, pointless comments. Jukai was correct in stating Plato was Greek. It’s not specific but it’s also not pedantic, and let’s not forget this is a ball forum. Let’s make a guess and say you’re American, you’re also a human, you’re also a mammal, you’re also a two-legged creature (more likely than not). Just because Plato was Athenian does not mean he was not also Greek. There was irrefutably no need for Spanny to be a tool over Jukai’s comment. He just can’t debate basketball so he chats ish and you’re comments just extend his delusion of self-importance.

  • The Philosopher

    Allen Iverson needs a hug. Needs to get away from the spotlight for a while.

  • Rikson

    Cant critisize someone, who hasnt done ish! Plus, all this athletes make truckloads of money not for playing alone… Its also a way to compensate that they are public persons once arrived in the league! AI is no exception.. Everytime public persons do ish the media will report – business as usual. They are not targeting AI – that’s just stupid.

    It’s time for him to realize this or stop playing!

  • FoCo

    The point I was intending to make here is that maybe, just maybe the accepted view on the subject that is taught here in the US differs from the accepted view held in actual Greece. I don’t know that it is…he could be just blowing smoke but I’m not going presume to correct him on it.

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ Tariqُُ

    Spanny is the Anna Kournikova of commenting. Spanna Kournikova.

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ Tariqُُ

    FoCo: I’m from Saudi Arabia. I also went to graduate school in England and one of my roommates was Greek. Spanna Kournikova (I hope I’m spelling her name right) is just being argumentative.

  • MikeC.

    @Jaay – Dwyane Wade 1 ring. Iverson 0. The career scoring is impressive. The MVP is impressive. All-Star MVPs are irrelevant. I just think winning is the most important thing in sports.
    AI is a fringe HOFer like Reggie Miller.

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ Tariqُُ

    MikeC:
    Winning IS important. But I equate “winning” with having post-season success. That’s why I see a guy like Jason Kidd as having “won,” while Nash hasn’t. Kidd has won in the playoffs. He has reached the Finals. The fact that he hasn’t actually won a ring doesn’t mean he’s a “fringe” HOF. Kidd is a LOCK. So is Iverson. Nash is a “fringe” HOFer for precisely the reason you mentioned.

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ Tariqُُ

    Dirk Nowitzki is also a lock for the HOF.

  • http://fdksjlf.com Jukai

    360vue: That is NOT what Spanny is talking about. I already mentioned the fact that Greece didn’t exist back then but it was still considered ancient greece, and Spanny ‘scoffed’ at that notion. The dude tried to pull a fast one and now he’s caught with his hands down his pants.
    After all, he said ‘if you called Plato Greek, he’d punch you’ but GREECE DiDN’T EXIST BACK THEN!!!!!
    He’s just an idiot 360vue. He’s making up being a history major too. I think he was a basketball coach or something five months ago. This is what Spanny does. I just thought it was funny calling him out for it.

  • http://fdksjlf.com Jukai

    FoCo: Historical teachings on ancient civilizations are generally the same worldwide. That’s why it’s called “history.” Two different nations wont have different history.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Jaay

    @Mike C: You had no respond for the 97 ROY, the 11 All-Star selections, 7 All-NBA selections, 4 Scoring titles, The MVP year was one of the best individual seasons in NBA history. Iverson had no help in his prime if he had Shaq he would probably win a ring too. Again check this AI is top 25 all-time: http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/hof_prob_career.html

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    “…..That’s why it’s called “history.” Two different nations wont have different history….” man, and then you tell me you ain’t doing it intentionally….(this was one for the ages though, one of your best ones.thanks again. looking forward to the time your biggest brother starts contributing “wisdom” also!!! Lucky parents !!!!)

  • MikeC.

    @Jaay – I’m enjoying the debate. Everybody else just said “hater” and gave no reasoning for their opinion. Debates are fun when both sides articulate points of view. Nicely done. Anyway, as things currently stand, the HOF standards have the bar set low enough for Iverson to get in. There’s no way they won’t vote him in because other players with less impressive career numbers have gotten in. I don’t take ROY into consideration too much unless it’s just sprinkles on a cake made of winning since there have been a few ROY winners that flamed out pretty fast. Iverson’s scoring titles have a bit of a stink on them, as well as the “he had no help” argument. Iverson scored so much because he didn’t have anyone else to help, but the teams he played on were built to maximize his strengths (speed, binge scoring and jumping in the passing lanes on D) and hide his weaknesses (willingness to pass, run an offense, play real D). I don’t ever buy the “he had no help card” for any player because it’s too easy to play that card for anyone that didn’t win. Ewing didn’t win because he had no help. Barkley didn’t win because he had no help until it was too late. As far as AI playing with Shaq, that wouldn’t have worked since Shaq needs someone to pass him the ball. Not exactly AI’s strong suit. I think the HOF needs to restructure its rankings and have levels. Top-floor would be guys that had great stats and won. Ex. Jordan, Duncan, Russel, etc. Next floor would be guys that either had great stats and didn’t win, like Iverson, Ewing, Nique, Stockton-to-Malone etc, or guys that might not have had eye-popping stats, but won so much that they have to get HOF status like Pippen, Rodman, etc. Halls of Fame should be reserved for the best of the best, unless they find a way to differentiate between different classes of player.

  • http://fdksjlf.com Jukai

    What’s amazing is after all these months, Spanny is still too scared to debate me after I obliterated him last time. Sad, sad, sad.

  • MikeC.

    @Jukai – your 5:28 post is a bit misleading. History tends to be written by the winners. I’m betting the Native Indians of North America have a different version of how they lost their lands than what the history books would have us believe. I’m also guessing that some of the anti-American nations around the world teach a different version of American history (if they teach it at all) than is taught in American schools. I get your point about history being history and that, if logic is applied, the history would be the same across the board. I don’t know a great deal about Greek history but I actually have a Bachelor’s Degree in history and the main thing I took away from my studies is that everybody has a different version of events and the truth lies somewhere in the middle.

  • http://fdksjlf.com Jukai

    MikeC: Yer right, that was a bit misleading. I was focusing more on ancient history, outside of national bias.

  • the nerve

    he was born in the hood and with that comes all of his surroundings also habits most of the time when we have fun we were all tipsy theres other players out there who have done worse and how come his time in the spotlight wasn’t as long as all the people he is better then? Neglect

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    @Mike C….: 5:28 post is typical but at the same time ‘great’(like Lebron having a 33/8/9 game).I know the kid, trust me on this.

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    enough with the “jukaitavoris family” and their history science deficiencies….check what did j.r.smith did yesterday night…..C- R- A- Z- Y.

  • newfieflames

    MAN A.I leaves the NBA it sucks he was an amazing player and it really sucks for him he dont got no ring! and he deserves one but the ruff times hes going through i dont think hes coming back to the NBA – come back A.I

  • Rikson

    MikeC 6:42 – cosign. Great post…

  • tavoris

    @MikeC(and Rikson)-Jerry West won ONE NBA title. Had he not won any, how would you evaluate his career? look at his numbers and get back to me on that…

    @Greek Guy-why are u mentioning my name? I’ve been absent from this discussion. pathetic.

  • tavoris

    I’m not saying that AI should be as revered as The Logo…but the jacked up criteria that people try to come up with to exclude players they don’t like is ridiculous (and short-sighted). The system is the way it is…live with it.

    If its any consolation, his legacy will probably get ignored at first just like Nique’s did. Find comfort in that.

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    @tavorisjukai…..: yeah right…

  • Shem

    where did it go wrong? get well

  • Pat Hopkins

    Stephen A. Smith is a snake. You made you name on Allen. He always gave you the scoop before anyone else and you have thrown him under the bus. Whether your allegations are true or not you should of just kept you mouth shut. Just remember snake what goes around come around.

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  • Donna_Jenkins

    Wow, this is old but I figured it wouldn’t hurt to reply. I disagree on AI’s passing ability. He proved countless times that if he had good players to pass to, he would distribute the ball to them (see 2004 Olympics, All-Star Games). He also had 5 or 6 seasons where he averaged over 7 assists per game, including one season where he was top 5 in the league in assists, averaging 8 per game (and 31 points and 5 rebounds … just insane).

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