Thursday, March 18th, 2010 at 1:11 pm  |  39 responses

Curry or Evans: The Lake Debate

After back-to-back contests against leading ROY candidates, the Lakers weigh in.

by Jonathan Santiago / @ITSjonsantiago

With the NBA regular season nearing its finale, the contests for league awards are heating up. And one of the most talked about races is this season’s Rookie of the Year chase. From fans to pundits, everyone has their own opinion of who should come away with this year’s honors.

But, after back-to-back games against the Golden State Warriors and Sacramento Kings, the defending champion Los Angeles Lakers might have the best insight on at least two of this year’s front runners.Kobe Bryant & Stephen Curry

On Monday, the Lakers squared off against Stephen Curry and his Warriors in their fourth and final meeting of the ‘09-10 campaign. And Curry played easily one of his best games of the season, shooting five of nine from beyond the arc, dishing nine assists with no turnovers and scoring 29 points. And if not for teammate Monta Ellis’ missed tying-three pointer, his night could have been bigger with an extra period of play.

Then Tuesday evening, the Lakers drove down Interstate 80 and challenged Tyreke Evans and his Kings. The former Memphis Tiger, who posted a triple-double against the Toronto Raptors last Wednesday and was only a rebound shy of another against the Minnesota Timberwolves Sunday, almost did it again. Evans finished with 25 points, nine rebounds and 11 assists.

So after seeing both Curry and Evans post huge numbers on them consecutive nights, what do the defending champs think of the two?

“They’re both (tough to game plan against),” Lakers forward Ron Artest said of Curry and Evans. “It’s really hard to stop them.

“You know it’s like you take one thing away,” Artest continued. “Then they got something else for you.”

Despite the Lakers victory over his former ball club, Artest was more subdued than jovial in the locker room. He looked exhausted after spending much of the evening guarding Evans, perhaps indicative of the talent the Sacramento rookie brings to the table.

Tyreke Evans on Ron ArtestLakers Head Coach Phil Jackson would agree.

“He showed a lot of capabilities against a strong defensive player like Ron,” Jackson said of Evans during his postgame comments outside the Lakers’ locker room. “(Artest is) a power player, where Evans is more of a finesse player than a point guard.”

Lakers forward/center Pau Gasol doesn’t face the nightly grind of defending players like Evans and Curry one-on-one. But, he still can attest to the different challenges team defenses must account for when playing the two.

“Curry has got great ball-handling and shooting,” Gasol said. “And Tyreke really (gets) in the lane and uses his size very well…They’re both great players and I think they have a bright future ahead of them.”

But out of all the thoughts expressed by the Lakers on Curry and Evans, the following opinion may matter the most.

“Steph’s a phenomenal player,” reigning Finals MVP, Kobe Bryant said. “But Tyreke — that’s a grown-ass man.”

Curry, who has the complexion of a high-school sophomore, has improved statistically as the season has progressed, from averaging around 13 points in October, November and December to nearly 20 points per game in March, February and January.

On the other hand, Evans has been consistent all year long, pacing himself to a healthy line of 20 points, 5.2 rebounds and five assists per game. Those are first-year averages only three other men in NBA history can claim — Oscar Robertson, LeBron James and Michael Jordan.

“I maybe a little biased too because I’m from Philadelphia,” Bryant, referencing his and Evans’ Pennsylvanian roots, said with a grin. “Philly guys have the all-around game.”

In the end, however, Bryant refused to make a choice between the two.

“They’re two different players,” he said. “I love what Steph does in his own right. Tyreke does what he does in his own right. I’m not going to compare who is better.”

It’s safe to say the debate will rage on until a winner is given his due.

Jonathan Santiago also co-hosts the weekly Davis Sports Deli Podcast, which can be found here.

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  • D

    ”And if not for teammate Monta Ellis’ missed tying-three pointer, his night could have been bigger with an extra period of play.”
    Curry missed one first

  • The Philosopher

    I’d take either one of them, but I’m biased for Curry because I love shooters. Always have. But Evans is probably more dominant. And I think Curry has been through more mentally. Golden State seems to be a circus over there.

  • Rosby

    “Steph’s a phenomenal player,” reigning MVP, Kobe Bryant said

    Major Blunder: Kobe IS NOT the reigning MVP.
    LeBron IS.

  • jay

    Oh dear Rosby, what Jonathan meant to say was reigning FINALS MVP Kobe Bryant (isnt that what really matters? ;) ). Major blunder corrected. Any who, love Curry’s game (cmon whats not to love?), but Evans all day.

  • http://www.davissportsdeli.com/podcasts Jonathan Santiago

    Yep, editing error: I should’ve thrown Finals before MVP their since my emphasis for this story was getting the defending champs thoughts on the rooks.

  • Rob

    Both are awesome but the grown-ass man’s gonna get the ROY title.

  • Joey E.

    “But Tyreke — that’s a grown-ass man.”

  • The Philosopher

    But, I’ll drop 100 points every night on every team who’s ever played…….Partna!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • a_whiteman

    I say give it to them both, they are clearly the 2 best rooks out there

  • Royal

    KOBE YOUR FROM ITALY NOT PHILLY!!!!!

  • http://digitalthread.com AlbertBarr

    Tyreke has been in the conversation the whole time…his consistency is more impressive than curry’s late run

  • John

    I want Curry to win ROY, but I think Evans will win it. One thing though, to those that keeps saying Evans has been more consistent – well, Kevin Martin did get hurt very early, which allowed Tyreke to own the Kings team right from the get-go. Curry, on the other hand, has had to defer to Ellis, Jackson and Maggette, especially in the beginning of the season. He still has had to share the team with Ellis, but has been spectacular since the beginning of the year. I think Evans will still win it though, just because his name has been in the conversation longer. Both players have very bright futures.

  • bukey

    @royal kobe is from philly you idiot. just because he lived over italy for a few years doesn’t make him from there. he was born in west philly and his dad is bartram’s second all time leading scorer. stop the hate you clown.

  • B.J. #1 Fan

    Tyreke can take over a game whenever he wishes. Curry can not. If Tyreke plays on such a bad team, and that’s why he has such good stats because he’s the only one that gets the ball or whatever, then wouldn’t teams’ defensive game plans each night, be to STOP Tyreke??? I would think so. Assuming that you’re argument is accurate. And if that truly is the case, then how come they CAN’T STOP HIM. His last 4 games he’s averaging nearly a triple double to top it off. The playing on a bad team argument does you no justice at all. It actually makes Tyreke look like even more a superstar. I think it can be said that right now, Tyreke is easily already a Top 15 NBA player. You could even argue Top 10. Curry may be Top 30. Maybe. ROY is supposed to be the award going to the rookie who had the best year. The only way that’s not Tyreke Evans this year, is if you choose to not even think he exists.

  • http://HOTMAIL.COM STEVIE GEE

    TYREKE EVANS FUTURE HALL OF FAMER!! YEAH I said it. I’ve seen every game he’s played since he’s been here in sacto.The guy amazes me every night. Rookie of the year is only the beginning,big things are on the horizon!!!Allstar 2010-20011 season!!??

  • Teddy-the-Bear

    I’ve been repeating myself a lot lately, but Darren Collison needs mention along with Evans and Curry. He’s got just as bright a future.
    Maybe if people realized this I wouldn’t have to keep repeating myself.

  • B.J. #1 Fan

    Teddy-the-Bear: Darren Collison is doing really well right now and looks like he’ll be a great player, along with all the other rookies mentioned as well. But the ROY award is for the The Rookie who did the Best the WHOLE YEAR… as a whole… in it’s entirety… 82 games. Rookie of the Month is Awarded to those who are doing the best each month. I believe Darren Collison received a Rookie of The Month already, and deservedly so. I think you can stop repeating yourself now.

  • Royal

    Bukey- It was actually a joke so lay of the testosterone shots….

    I happen to be a huge Kobe Bryant fan:-)

  • max

    to the people that said darren collison should be in the talks with tyreke and curry, he left the conversation when tyreke broke his ankles and made him fall early in the season.

  • k.a.

    At 1st I lold at royals 1st comment than I readjis second n now my LOL has been deflated :|

  • Mack

    You could compare this race and set of potential superstars to the 03 Rookie race. You’ve got Tyreke is LeBron, Curry is Melo; one wins the award, but you’re not surprized if the other does anyway. And hiding in the shadows, leading his team into the playoffs is Mr Brandon Jennings (Wade). Also, Hasheem Thabeet is Darko? JK :P

  • therighttoremainsalient

    When Did Curry overtake JENNINGS? (as a top two reference)… JENNINGS IS ORCHESTRATING THE OFFENSE FOR A TEAM THAT WILL GET TO THE PLAYOFFS! Reke hasn’t made a ball club better, sure the stat line is great and it puts him in an amazing group of other rookies, but you don’t give the man the ROY based on OTHER YEARS rookies, you give the award out based on THIS CURRENT CROP and I don’t think that stat line for Evans is enough to get over the top of the leadership and playmaking that Jennings has displayed for the Bucks, skills that have brought a franchise along all season! – Traits that ALOT of “experts” expected Jennings wouldn’t have developed this season. Jennings for ROY.

  • Kadavour

    @therighttoremainsilent: good point. it’s the LeBron bs all over again. Melo took his team to the playoffs in the West, Bron gets MVP. I think potential and not production is being rewarded here. Darren Collison got NO shine when CP3 was healthy and killing, and he has stepped up BIG TIME in Chris’s stead. Curry and Reke have very similar numbers, Reke gets the edge in rebounding because he’s bigger, that’s it. But none of them will touch 30 wins this year. I really don’t understand the criteria here because if wins aren’t rewarded, what is? If yall are really on this potential trip, give the award to Blake Griffin. He’s clearly the most talented of this crop. yea, i’m hatin!

  • Proudly Rwandan

    steph

  • http://jdfkslld.com Jukai

    Kadavour: It’s about performance, not potential. Awarding a player ROY on wins is counterintuitive: the draft system means the BEST ROOKIES go on the MOST AFWUL teams. Why would a lower drafted rookie get more credit for being drafted on a better team? It was like the Durant-Horford debate when people were crying that Horford should get ROY because he on a playoff team— but the team was a playoff team WITHOUT Al, and Al was the third/fourth string player on it. It didn’t make sense to me to give it to Horford, when Durant was dropping ridiculous lines on an atrocious team.

  • http://digitalthread.com AlbertBarr

    AND Jennings has a horrible shooting percentage. Absolutely atrocious.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Damn, way to blame Monta for his miss, when he shot a crazy heave after Curry missed a wide open shot.
    Curry got crazy game, but no need to make Monta the goat, when Curry was the goat.

  • Yesse

    This is just retarded. Tyreke Evans has better stats and ROY doesnt involve the greatness of a team like MVP so ofcourse Tyreke Evans is the rookie of the year so far. People who say Curry is better are just crazy Warrior fans.

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  • Kadavour

    The Warriors, Bucks and Kings are all awful Jukai

  • Will Brennan

    Evans has one move, drive to the hoop. and his passing skills are average for a PG. Curry on the other hand is a better shooter, passer, and team leader. In my opinion, curry is the ROY

  • The Philosopher

    Teddy is right about Collison. He’s kept the Hornets at least respectable.

  • McNasty

    Tyreke Evans is having one of the best rookie season’s of all time. Lol@having one move. Even if that was true, he STILL puts up more points than any rookie and still shoots for a higher shooting percentage than Steph Curry and Brandon Jennings. Average passer? Why is he averaging more assists per game on a team that has no good shooters and guys who are below average finishers around the basket? Curry should be averaging more than 5 assists on a team that’s built to score points. Hmmm….

  • Uncle Mark & Auntie Emma

    Good Job, At least we will have a celebrity in our family. Keep it up Jonathan we are proud of you.
    Keep in touch with us alright ?

    Love,
    Uncle Mark & Auntie Emma & cousins

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  • http://psp2423@yahoo.com 323 478 1884

    Ill take Curry.

  • Dtown

    Why is Jennings so overlooked? lol.. it flusters me. Kid dropped 55 and is playing good ball with a playoff team.

    No hate to Curry (my 2nd fav.. love shooters) or tyreke (mr. one two step jr.) but jennings doesn’t seem to get the hype these two do. I do think Tyreke is the Rook of the year he has the more complete game but w/e

    Got to love kobe’s comment “But tyreke.. that’s a grown ass man” lol

  • Coyote

    If you don’t think Evans is ROY, you either have not watched him play very much and/or you are a Bucks or Warriors fan. The people who don’t have a dog in this fight and therefor are not emotionally involved see an absolute freak of nature Mini Me LaBron and two excellent point guard prospects, either one of which could be better than Derrick Rose. In other words, if Evans didn’t exist, Jennings would have let ROY slip through his fingers to Curry, maybe. It would be a two man race in any event. But Tyreke does exist, therefor any talk about it going to Curry or Jennings is either media blather trying to generate publicity or a bias of some sort. Whether it’s because you are a Bucks fan or Warriors fan or for some reason you just don’t like evans, it’s bias. There are instances where a players numbers can be padded because he’s the best player on a lousy team and if he goes to a good team, he’s not the best player anymore and his numbers go down. This is not the case with Evans. If he had some more weapons, teams wouldn’t be double and triple teaming him and his numbers would actually go up.

  • rekes son

    curry is good for the nerds butt tyreke is a baller currys ok evans is in another league

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