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Thursday, March 25th, 2010 at 9:00 am  |  37 responses

Flip Saunders Backed Down, Blatche Started

Flip demonstrated last night why many around the L don’t feel he’s a very strong personality. The WaPo has Blatche’s rather hilarious reaction to Saunders’ criticism, and his quick return into the coach’s good graces: “Coach Flip Saunders missed the team meeting on Wednesday with a migraine headache, so he was unable to hear what Andray Blatche had to tell his teammates the morning after Saunders’s scathing assessment of his behavior against Charlotte. Saunders said that Blatche essentially quit on his team for refusing to speak with him after he was benched late in the first quarter. After the game, Saunders said that it was ‘unlikely’ that Blatche would play, but he announced about 90 minutes before tipoff addressed his other headache by stating that Blatche not only was going to play, but he would start against the Pacers. ‘He’s going to start,’ Saunders said. ‘As I told him, when he came out of the game, it was a situation that if he wanted to go back in the game he had to talk to me, accept coaching. We talked about the situation, he didn’t want to talk during the game about it, so he didn’t play. We talked. It’s over with. You move forward.’ When someone mentioned to Blatche before the game that he was going to start, Blatche said, ‘I wonder why.’ He said he never worried about not playing. ‘I wasn’t worried at all,’ Blatche said. ‘I didn’t do nothing wrong, so I didn’t have anything to worry about. It was a situation that occurred. It should die down within time. Most important thing right now is to try to get a win.’ Earlier in the day, Blatche said that Saunders’s critique after the game was “not true.” Saunders refused to go back at him.”

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  • slamfan4life

    what other choice does he have to start

  • Sam Z

    @slamfan4life the wizards are terrible this year anyways its not like flip couldve done anymore harm if he started earl boykins at C…im exaggerating but u get the idea

  • http://www.slamonline.com wayno

    Man, he was playing plenty of defense in that interview…

  • The Philosopher

    So, Blatche DIDN’T refuse to go back into the game! He DIDN’T quit on his team.

  • http://slamonline.com Brad Long

    Makes sense that his name is Flip. Spineless.

  • T-Money

    Wow, Flip just lost his locker room (not that he really had it). How the fvck do you go back on your word in that situation? Dre is not a superstar and the team is not going to the playoffs. Sit the man down you b!tch-ass spineless motherfvcker!

  • kudos

    No wonder none of his former players ever like Saunders. I’m sure FLIP apologized to blatche for his comments, which is very wierd. Blatche isn’t worth saying anything to, send his ass home.

  • BostonBaller

    Amazing!!! This is why Flip bounces around the league, maybe he should be bounced to the D league and grow a spine. Blatche essentially said that Flip lied publicly. WOW!!

  • The Philosopher

    Not to beat a dead horse, but FLIP DOESN’T HAVE ANY CREDIBILITY!!!! @CB34: You admire my insight. You respect the FACT that most of the insight I’ve put forth on SLAM has been accurate, at least when discussing basketball related topics. And, I appreciate the respect and admiration that you have shown me.

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com BETCATS

    Flip likes weaksauce on his burgers.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Y’all realize that the reality is that Flip probably lied, right?
    His most recent statements are not the same as the previous statements, which made it appear that Blatche refused to come back into the game despite Saunders’ requests. Now he’s saying that he told Blatche the he had to apologize if he wanted to come back in and Blatche never apologized.
    That’s really quite different.
    I said Blatche was ridiculous if he refused to come back into the game because that’s a betrayal of his teammates, but now this sounds totally different. I would suggest y’all read Blatche’s comments that Mutoni links to.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    And why do people automatically give coaches more credibility than players?
    I really don’t understand that logic. Why are coaches more credible?
    They also have guaranteed contracts, they also switch teams on a whim.
    What makes coaches more credible?
    I’d like to hear it.

  • The Philosopher

    @allenp: You see that, (Blatche’s comments) right?!?!?!?!?!?

  • The Philosopher

    @allenp: The reason coaches are often looked at as the “credible” ones, is because the majority of coaches posess degrees, where as most players, especially today, don’t. I think that’s what it is, anyway.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Philosopher
    I just read a column by Adrian Wojo that called Flip a pushover, but still pushed the idea that Blatche refused to come back into the game.
    It’s a neat trick man.
    Somebody gives you a set of guidelines and says “If you do this, you can do this.”
    If you disagree with those guidelines, you refuse to follow them.
    Then, that person says “This guy refused to do X.”
    That’s not exactly the same thing.
    Blatche still has a bad attitude, and he needs to understand the big picture, but I have a real feeling that Flip is a liar.
    Stone cold.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Philosopher
    Are you sure the majority of coaches possess degrees?
    Many of them are ex-players or basketball junkies who probably majored in basketball during their college careers, if they got a degree at all.
    Nah, I think it’s because people think coaches are players “bosses.”
    Strangely, when most people are at work, they understand that they’re supervisors are just regular human beings who are completely fallible, who lie and who scheme.
    But, for some reason, despite the fact that they view coaches as supervisors, they don’t give players the benefit of the doubt you would expect given their own experiences with supervisors.
    I have some theories, but since I don’t have any serious evidence to back up those theories, I won’t share them.
    I’m curious to hear what other people think though.

  • The Philosopher

    @allenp: One needs at least a bachelor’s degree to be a coach at the colegiate and/or professional level.

  • The Philosopher

    @allenp: People have been calling Flip a liar and accusing him of being shady for years. And to have a guy like Andray Blatche show you up, and make you out of a liar is unacceptable. Flip is looking like he saw a way to come up at Blatche’s expense because, you know, Blatche is this “headcase” or whatever. He more than likely is, but, Flip is a funny guy. And, Blatche’s story to me, has truth to it.

  • LA Huey

    @The Philosopher, people that have degrees are more credible in a “my side of the story” scenario? Wow, that’s bananas. I understand how someone who has a degree in aerospace engineering might be more credible when discussing why plane X is more awesome than plane Y. However, if you’re saying you’re more likely to give the aerospace engineer the benefit of the doubt on his take of who cut in line at the grocery store…

  • http://www.slamonline.com/ niQ

    Flip Saunders…redonc.

  • The Philosopher

    @LA Huey: The NBA, along with other major institutions, have like, a fraternity. And, if not a fraternity, a pecking order, so to speak. And, today’s players, whom are not educated for the most part, are at the bottom level. And we, as a people, generally give the people with the degree that benefit of the doubt until we catch them in a lie. It is a reality.

  • The Philosopher

    @LA Huey: As far as the grocery line scenario, if there isn’t any evidence that suggest the aerospace engineer is inaccurate, people are going to believe the engineer with the degree as opposed to someone without one. Human nature.

  • barnabusb

    Dang. And I stuck up for Flip in the other thread. Woops.

  • LA Huey

    @The Philosopher, my bad. You meant society as a whole. I took that as you, personally, would be more inclined to believe one with a degree. Degree != honest. I prove that damn near everyday.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Philosopher
    I didn’t find anything on a degree requirement for NBA coaches.
    I’m sure it might be preferred, but are you saying it’s required?

  • barnabusb

    Michael Curry holds a Masters Degree from the Virginia Commonwealth University SportsCenter. I still wouldn’t hire him.

  • The Philosopher

    @allenp: It’s required, if I’m not mistaken. There isn’t one head coach in the League who doesn’t posess a degree.

  • T-Money

    Philosopher: I’m tempted to call BS on your statement. Did Zeke graduate? Bird? Magic?

  • The Philosopher

    T-Money: Bird has a degree, Zeke has a degree. In fact, Isiah told Tim Hardaway to get his degree so he can get his foot in the door.

  • http://slamonline.com Krishan

    Holy sh!t zeke has a degree? Who gave him that?

  • http://slamonline.com CB 34

    the philosopher: That is crap. Nba coaches are not required to possess a degree to be able to coach. Most of these guys are ex-players who never went back to school after leaving early. Flip messed up here big time. He should have at least suspended Andray. I don’t know what the truth is anymore, but i believe the one about Blatche refusing to come in and Flip just folded after. Flip was still right in calling him out like that.Sheed always maintained he was a coward but this is surprising. I didn’t think he was dumb enough to not realize that this is the perfect way to lose your players respect. Another thing, Isiah never told Tim to get his degree so he can coach. Never happened! Tim will forever be blackballed from the league cause of the gay comments. You’re making sh!t up again.

  • http://Www.twitter.com Darksaber

    Hahaha, Krishan’s reaction was PRICELESS. Very, very funny, sir.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Isiah Thomas is smarter than y’all believe. Way, WAY smarter.

  • The Philosopher

    If Zeke didn’t have a degree, he would have been finished a long, long, time ago. Trust and believe. Would Bird be a GM without a degree? What about Ainge? What about McHale? What about Dunleavy? All ex – players WITH degrees.

  • The Philosopher

    CB34: I wasn’t saying Tim Hardaway was trying to coach in the League. Isiah was going to bring Hardaway onto his staff at the university. But, being that Hardaway didn’t have a degree, it couldn’t happen.

  • The Philosopher

    CB34: If I remember right, that is how the story went. And, as far as me fabricating, to put it diplomatically, I’ll just tell you this: I live basketball. I sleep basketball. I drink basketball. Especially NBA basketball. I don’t need to make up stories. I respect the game and the people involved too much. I don’t have the need to be right if I’m not right. If I’m wrong about something, I’ll surely acknowledge my error.

  • The Philosopher

    CB34: So, in the mean time, I would appreciate it if you name 10 NBA coaches who do not possess a degree.

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