Tuesday, March 9th, 2010 at 11:23 am  |  82 responses

‘I’m Rooting for LeBron’

Casey explains how LeBron became the game’s best player, as well as the most unselfish.

by Casey Jacobsen

One of the hottest topics of discussion these days is who is better between LeBron and Kobe. During the past two seasons, the King’s improved play at both ends of the court has emphatically eliminated any doubt about who reigns over the League right now.

The ONLY knock against James is he hasn’t won a championship yet, but that isn’t necessarily his fault. Kobe won his first three with Shaq and couldn’t win another until the arrival of Pau Gasol, which just further proves the point that one superstar cannot win a championship by himsLeBron Jameself. LeBron has played with some talented players in Cleveland, but has yet to be teamed with another superstar. And until that happens, I don’t think he will win a title.

As well as the Cavs have played this season, not many people would give them a chance of beating Kobe in the Finals. If Kobe and the Lakers win another ring this year, the Kobe-LeBron debate will surely heat up again and armed with all those titles, Kobe supporters might be too difficult to hold off. I’m rooting for LeBron. I have always admired how well he balances scoring with getting his teammates involved. Kobe doesn’t do this nearly as well. Kobe is a good passer, but his ego often takes over and he goes into I-am-shooting-this-ball-no-matter-what mode. When I watch LeBron, I get the feeling he could score whenever he feels like it, but for whatever reason he doesn’t. He takes more pride in his passing than any superstar since a guy named Magic.

Watching LeBron play recently on television made me wonder: How does a guy this talented at scoring the ball want to pass?

This past week on a road trip in Germany, I finally understood why.

The recent documentary movie depicting LeBron’s high school career, More Than a Game, was released on DVD and iTunes a few weeks ago, and I heard some good things about it. I downloaded it for the long bus ride to a recent road game and settled in to watch. I highly recommend the movie for those who haven’t seen it. It’s well made, interesting, and gives some important insight to why LeBron plays the way he does. There were two things I learned from the film:

1) LeBron has been a mega-star since the age of 14. I had never really heard of him until he was on Sports Illustrated, but he was already a celebrity in Ohio. He’s so accustomed to pressure and fame that it doesn’t even faze him. He is like a child actor who grows up to become the biggest act in Hollywood as an adult. That’s never happened before because at some point the fame and money becomes too much for the kid and he or she never fully realizes their potential. LeBron more than lived up to his potential. So what made him so different, besides his out-of-this-world athleticism? The answer is in the next point.

2) LeBron played with the same group of kids his entire childhood! He grew up in Akron with his mom and although they were poor, they never moved from that city. Early in his adolescent years, LeBron became friends with the other stars of the film and basketball was their bond. These kids played AAU and high school basketball together. Do you know how rare this is? If you don’t, let me give you an example. I grew up in Los Angeles and played for at least five different AAU teams and had over 50 different teammates during that time. The lesson I learned from my experience was that the only person I could count on was myself. Nobody was going to pass me the ball so I could improve my offensive game. None of my teammates actually cared about winning more than they did their own performance. And I would say my experience was normal. This is the way AAU basketball is 99 percent of the time. It wasn’t that way for LeBron and he’s a better player because of it. He had played with his AAU teammates since he was a boy. They developed a love for each other and because of that, they genuinely cared about winning and doing it together. LeBron had physical characteristics his friends (or anyone else) could only dream about, but he didn’t grow up thinking he could win games all by himself…even though he could. As everything around him changed and his celebrity grew, his friends and teammates remained the same. After I finished the movie, LeBron’s game made more sense to me.

The debate between Kobe and LeBron is fun because both players are amazing at what they do. Kobe is a killer and one of the best clutch players of all time. LeBron is a player who no one has ever seen before. You cannot compare him to anyone. You could say he plays like Magic, but he is so much more athletic than Magic that it makes the argument silly.

The only weapon LeBron-haters have is the fact that he has yet to win a championship. It’s a good point, though, as we ultimately measure the success of athletes with how often they win. That’s why I’ll be rooting for the Cavs during the upcoming Playoffs. LeBron is not only the best player in basketball, he’s also the most unselfish. He plays the way I wish I could play. His teammates are more than his co-workers…they’re his friends. And basketball is More Than A Game to him…it’s his life.

Casey Jacobsen is a former SLAM High School First Team All-American and NCAA First Team All-American. He currently plays for Brose Baskets in Bamberg, Germany.

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  • LA Huey Posted: Mar.9 at 11:32 am
    queue the HATE

  • SLAM ONLINE | » Hot Topics Posted: Mar.9 at 11:33 am
    [...] Casey Jacobsen on LeBron [...]

  • Ryan Jones Posted: Mar.9 at 11:35 am
    What Huey said — and I’ll start!
    “I had never really heard of him until he was on Sports Illustrated.” Can we fire this guy?

  • Allenp Posted: Mar.9 at 11:40 am
    I read the book that Lebron did with Buzz Bissinger, I think it has the same title as this movie.
    Anyway, I didn’t realize how atypical Lebron’s AAU situation was, mainly because I have know nothing about AAU. When I was a kid it wasn’t as popular as it is now.
    It’s an interesting theory that Lebron loves passing because he grew up loving his teammates and wanting them to succeed.

  • Ryan Jones Posted: Mar.9 at 11:45 am
    Allen: The book is Shooting Stars. The movie is much better.

  • Mo Money Bizzes Posted: Mar.9 at 11:53 am
    First off, Casey didn’t read Slam and didn’t find about LeBron sooner b/c mormons don’t mess with the best mag obviously. Also, this debate is very last year. It’s over.

  • tom Posted: Mar.9 at 11:59 am
    ignorance is fatal. good write, casey!

  • James the Balla Posted: Mar.9 at 12:10 pm
    The only line that is funny is “couldn’t win another one until pau arrived” lol.. again, Kobe why are you such a pr1ck. I can’t believe this guy has teammates. What an a$$hole!!

  • Kevin Posted: Mar.9 at 12:11 pm
    pretty sure most observers feel the same way at this point about what Kobe & Lebron each bring to the table.. but good article nonetheless, didn’t watch the movie but that definitely might make sense

  • kato Posted: Mar.9 at 12:12 pm
    I would hope that the comment, which declared the argument for a comparison between James and Magic “silly,” was not a knock on Magic, or even the slightest nod towards James being the greater of the two. If this is, in fact, what Jacobsen is saying, then his knowledge of the game (or, lack thereof) is running neck-and-neck with his actual game for the title of ‘Least NBA-ready’. Though LeBron is more athletic, Magic was a far better basketball player. More drive, better focus, better court vision and leadership, better handle, better post game (among other qualities and intangibles). And, all this during a career when the game was more physical, and guys were allowed to bang, yet he didn’t rely on size and strength to bowl guys over; he simply was 5 steps ahead, mentally, at all times. As for the stance on the ‘Kobe vs. LeBron debate, that’s all opinion, and Jacobsen has clearly shown who his favorite is. Doesn’t make it fact, however.

  • James the Balla Posted: Mar.9 at 12:14 pm
    No, to lebron, basketball is a game, and money is his life… FTR

  • kwame Posted: Mar.9 at 12:14 pm
    i dont kno if he’s the MOST unselfish…i mean j kidd? nash? c’mon son

  • truthteller Posted: Mar.9 at 12:16 pm
    I’ve always said that LeBron’s game is reminiscent of Magic. That’s why I never got the Jordan-LeBron comparisons. Kobe’s game is more reminiscent of Jordan than any other player because even though MJ was well rounded he was still primarily a scorer. People just don’t like to bring that up because Jordan can do no wrong in their eyes and of course this makes it easier to keep the “Kobe hate” going!

  • James the Balla Posted: Mar.9 at 12:17 pm
    Co-sign kato. But Lebron is definitely the best basketball player on this planet. With Kobe on the out, and KD and Wade right there.
    p.s. meloman and MVP have aids.

  • truthteller Posted: Mar.9 at 12:19 pm
    And one more thing; if lebron wins a championship this year then are we going to say that he couldn’t win a championship until he got both shaq and jamison? I bet LeBron supporters won’t say that!

  • bill breedley Posted: Mar.9 at 12:20 pm
    this was one lame article. insights were nothing new and do not deserve space on this website. can we read something other than another boring lebron article. if you want to write about the boy, write something new that no one has not heard before. its getting quite old. can we see something fresh for once. enough with the rehash crap being passed on as “fresh articles”

  • mark Posted: Mar.9 at 12:23 pm
    The point is, LeBron could try and score on every possession and have a decent chance of success, hence he’s more unselfish than Kidd or Nash.

  • James the Balla Posted: Mar.9 at 12:25 pm
    Exactly truthtellar lol.

  • Ben Osborne Posted: Mar.9 at 12:25 pm
    Great job by Casey as always. And I too found More Than a Game to be insightful and highly enjoyable. Really good movie.

  • mvp23100 Posted: Mar.9 at 12:57 pm
    thank you for clearing that up mark @kato you need more people no knock on paying homage to earvin but lebron is better period theirs different intangibles that could go either way but bron passes just like magic and has a different game than mj but gets buckets like mj at an efficient rate lbj will never be a 18-19ppg scorer maybe on the back end of his career

  • Allenp Posted: Mar.9 at 12:58 pm
    Kato said:
    Magic was a far better basketball player. More drive, better focus, better court vision and leadership, better handle, better post game (among other qualities and intangibles).
    First, I think it’s a little premature to try to compare Lebron to Magic, considering Lebron’s only been in the league for seven years.
    That said, I think Casey made the point that Lebron has Magic’s style of game, but with the athletic ability of an uber-Jordan.
    Also, I think that the myth of the “Good Ol’ Days” has led some folks to overhype the ability of some of our all-time greats. Magic was spectacular and he clearly had a knowledge of the game that Bron has not attained, but let’s not sell Bron short.
    For someone who came straight out of high school, his game is incredibly developed. He’s a better shooter than Magic, a better driver than magic, a better ball handler than Magic and a better defender than Magic.
    He’s called on to score more than Magic ever was. I mean, Magic’s highest point total for his career was like 22 a game. If Lebron put that up, people would be talking about his huge drop-off.
    Magic was a better point guard, but he also had the luxury with playing with arguably the greatest center of all-time, along with several hall of fame forwards and quality guards.
    Magic no doubt deserves to be ahead of Lebron on the all-time list by virture of his career accomplishments, but on an individual skills basis and potential basis, Lebron is ahead of Magic at the same point.
    Magic had an incredible feel for the game, and he was a leader of men, but he benefited from playing in the right system, with the right supporting cast.
    Can we say the same for Lebron?

  • Pve84 Posted: Mar.9 at 1:14 pm
    Because of his accomplishments, style of play, and mentality, I still think Kobe is better than Lebron. Even with Kobe’s recurring end-game antics where he will not incorporate the rest of the team in the offense as often as he should, Kobe has got instincts that LeBron just doesn’t have yet. Can Lebron gain them with time? Of course and hopefully he does. Having made my personal beliefs clear, I don’t think you can seriously compare Shaq (at his present age) and/or Antawn Jamison’s “sidekick” influence on the Cavs to Pau Gasol’s on the Lakers. Be for real. Lebron has yet to have a supporting cast similar to what Kobe has played with in his championship winning years.

  • Jackie Moon Posted: Mar.9 at 1:22 pm
    I’m rooting for Lebron, too.

  • Myles Brown Posted: Mar.9 at 1:49 pm
    24th!

  • Reemo Posted: Mar.9 at 2:12 pm
    @bill breedley If you didn’t want to read another LeBron article then why click? It was clearly in the title….

  • WOODY Posted: Mar.9 at 2:24 pm
    Gasol is a wuss and won’t/doesn’t show up against physical opponents like the Cavs. Cavs bench is head and shoulders above the Lakers. Lebron doesn’t need a superstar to win, (that’s why no Amare). He needs a team. He has a team, his best ever. Cavs should beat Lakers if Lakers make it that far which is debatable.

  • kato Posted: Mar.9 at 2:35 pm
    Any talk of LeBron being a “better passer” and having a “better handle” than Magic is absurd, and shows that some of y’all are prisoners of the moment, and probably never even saw Magic play. I’m not talking about highlight footage either. Cut it out, and get some real knowledge of the game. In addition, don’t equate stats (i.e., points per game totals) to mean ‘better player’. If you knew anything about the game, and about Magic’s career, you would know that he could’ve scored more (as the weak pro-LeBron arguments bring up), but he chose not to make that the focal point of his game. It wasn’t until Pat Riley URGED him to shoot more that Magic placed more emphasis on that. Magic won on every level (understand… EVERY), because of his skill and head for the game. Talk of who won what because of who played with whom is foolish. So, again, cut it out. Many have played with talented casts, and have never won (see: the Portland, Dallas, and Utah teams that the Lakers of the ’80s had to routinely face, during their title runs). So, I don’t “need more people”; I can stand alone with my point, and still hold more weight than those who have only hyperbole to support their position. Try harder, next time.

  • Allenp Posted: Mar.9 at 2:49 pm
    Kato
    I watched enough game tape of Magic to be able to judge his handle.
    Lebron’s is better.
    I never said he was a better passer, so that’s on somebody else.
    I said looking at their games as a whole I think the idea that Lebron is the far inferior player is absurd. Looking at their careers as a whole, it’s absurd to even speak of Lebron in the same sentence right now, considering he’s only been to the Finals once and hasn’t won anything.
    The idea that Magic could score more if he played on a different team is in the same fantasy world as the idea that Lebron would win five rings easy if he played with Kareem, James Worthy, Michael Cooper and Byron Scott.
    It’s just fantasy, there is no proof to back it up.

  • mvp23100 Posted: Mar.9 at 3:15 pm
    @pve84
    his style of play and mentality has hurt his career just as well as helped it accomplishments come with time kato when its all said and done for lbj and he hangs it up if your alive you will feel foolish for this discussion it wont be close name another player who has took this same path turning a bum franchise into a top notch contender by himself mj its funny though because damn near everything you said magic was better at is not trackable

  • San Dova Posted: Mar.9 at 3:39 pm
    I actually thought this was a good column. Nothing new, but it gives some good insight into what Casey thinks about LBJ. I think it’s totally fair to compare Magic Johnson to LeBron, considering they are very similar in more than just one way. The thing to remember about Magic is that he didn’t have to do everything and he had a luxury of concentrating on a few things, because he always had Hall of Fame teammates; LBJ is criticized for not winning a championship, but without the luxury of having elite players with you, I almost feel that’s a slap in the face to what LeBron actually does on the court. He does so much.

  • JL Posted: Mar.9 at 3:59 pm
    overall considering his defense lockdown ability lebron has to be a better player than magic. offensive wise I don’t think he is there yet even tho he is better at scoring the ball, he is not better at distributing. Fundamentally he also travels too much to be comparable. He’s much more athletic than magic was, but also slightly less cerebral. He is a better player than kobe, especially at this time when Kobe’s career is going downhill.

  • Stickz Posted: Mar.9 at 4:01 pm
    Awesome article, Casey. And I am saying that as a lebron hater. Sorry, it’s hard to do, but as a Wiz fanatic, I have to embrace the hate.

  • niQ Posted: Mar.9 at 4:10 pm
    Myles, did you really count that out? lol

  • Lucas Shapiro Posted: Mar.9 at 5:11 pm
    Casey Jacobsen, great article. KEEP EM coming.
    I agree too. Nobody has had a team as bad as LeBron’s past teams. Now he has not excuses, so if he loses this season… we’ll see.

  • NAS Posted: Mar.9 at 5:24 pm
    not a huge lebron fan but the post is well written, god job, new take

  • Jukai Posted: Mar.9 at 5:53 pm
    Lebron didn’t have the handles Magic had. That’s a bit absurd. Magic wasn’t exactly dribbling between his leg and crossing cats out, but there are more to handles than flash. Magic would drive and create deeper in the paint than Lebron would, because his handles were fantastic and it was just too difficult to get the ball from him. For a 6’9 guy to operate the way Magic did, it’s a bit ridic.
    That being said, I’m mostly in agreement that it’s not that far fetched to say Lebron is on pace to outdue Magic. Not a guarantee, but it’s not out of the realm of possibilities.

  • robb Posted: Mar.9 at 5:55 pm
    I don’t love LBJ but the guy is an outstanding passer. He’s got an amazing court vision and he understands when and where to deliver the perfect assist. The first guy to compare Lebron and Magic was actually Kobe Bryant a couple of years ago.

  • jamaal 16 Posted: Mar.9 at 6:14 pm
    You guys don’t make Amy sense I read theses articles everyday and guess what nobody wins by themselves! Ya say kobe doesn’t have any rings before shaq well how bout when he got drafted shaq was already there. P.s. how many rings did shaq have before kobe came into his own? 0

  • The Philosopher Posted: Mar.9 at 6:24 pm
    Magic Johnson is the greatest player in NBA history.

  • The Seed Posted: Mar.9 at 6:31 pm
    Magic is rolling over in his grave being compared with Lebron. What’s america coming too, a scrub basketball player gives his advice and yall listen to, Come ON. Who cares if you don’t like Kobe’s killer instinct, I want that-and plus the great Jordan, had players on his team that hated him, like BJ and Scottie was not a fan of Micheal every year and Horace Grant left,and I remember him saying he wanted to touch the ball more. Lebron is a talent, but I have seen this style before, he passes too much to me and doesnt have the killer instinct, and he will not get it. I AM NOT ROOTING FOR LEBRON, the KING got his fame early and he thinks he is the KING, he can dance all he want, talk a good game, smile and play with Jay Z, but his game needs more me first mentality. The greatest player ever was the greatest ME-FIRST PLAYER EVER!!! MICHEAL MISSED THE MOST SHOTS IN NBA HISTORY!!! HERE IS A QUOTE FROM JORDAN’S MOUTH “To be successful you have to be selfish, or else you never achieve. And once you get to your highest level, then you have to be unselfish. Stay reachable. Stay in touch. Don’t isolate.” So give me a selfish Kobe in the 4th than lets help my scrub teammates score and be happy in the 4th. Lebron can’t be compared to Magic, he should be compared to someone who was as just athleticly gifted as him Dominique Wilkins. And again Casey you should have been selfish, you would have been a better player. I am now rooting against Casey.

  • Tim Dogg Posted: Mar.9 at 7:18 pm
    Magic died?

  • Tim Dogg Posted: Mar.9 at 7:20 pm
    Oh by the way. Sentence = subject + verb.
    The Seed = run-ons and sentence fragments.
    Hard to read.

  • Jacob (from Australia) Posted: Mar.9 at 7:43 pm
    Killer Instinct?
    LeBron – ECF Game 5 2007. Passing ability?
    LeBron to Joe Johnson for three, while falling out of bounds on the opposite side of the court – ASG 2010. Nuff said.

  • don Posted: Mar.9 at 8:25 pm
    @kwame, you’re missing the point, just like you’re namesake. HE’s unselfish because he opts to pass even though it’s obvious that this guy can score 50 a night by just bulldozing his way to the hoop.

  • Darksaber Posted: Mar.9 at 8:36 pm
    Casey, you got skills. Nice observations.

  • Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Mar.9 at 9:38 pm
    Cap, for being one of the greatest, if not THE greatest center in the NBA, played with the two best point guards in the history of the NBA. It definitely makes ball a lot easier playing with Oscar and Magic.

  • Lebron is greater than Kobe Posted: Mar.9 at 9:43 pm
    @ The Seed are u #$#$In dissing mike????????? hey truthteller are telling me that 37 year old shaq or 32 year old antawn jamison both not picked for ASG are individually better than gasol and bynum, are u telling me ud pick them over the two….?

  • Dallas Posted: Mar.9 at 10:32 pm
    Love the story. I’m rooting for LeBron too. And im deinately watchin that movie.

  • truthteller Posted: Mar.9 at 10:50 pm
    @lebron is greater: What the heck are you saying? what does that have to do with the fact that if the cavs win this year it would have been because Lebron had help from shaq and jamison and that he couldn’t do it himself just like nobody in the history of the NBA (including Mj and Shaq)has never done it alone but somehow only Kobe gets reminded of this!

  • Anton Posted: Mar.9 at 11:20 pm
    No Ceilings.

  • therighttoremainsalient Posted: Mar.9 at 11:22 pm
    Oh man, If CASEY JACOBSON wishes he could play at LeBrons level, I’m not even going to think about it.

  • MikeC. Posted: Mar.9 at 11:49 pm
    I wish I could play at Casey Jacobson’s level.

  • J Posted: Mar.10 at 2:29 am
    i’m rooting for lebron too

  • JoeMaMa Posted: Mar.10 at 2:46 am
    I respect Lebron’s game. But I have to say this: it’s about the money first. For him, Kobe, and just about everyone else in the league. They get their money, and then go from there. These guys want to win titles, but if he cared more about winning, they’d sign for less, get 3 other stars to play with them, win several titles, and call it a career. It’s not about winning; it’s about winning with a max contract. I won’t hate on that! But it’s money first.

  • ngoiekafita Posted: Mar.10 at 4:10 am
    @ jukai: I agree most of the time to whatever you post, but i can’t let this one slide :)
    Magic might had a better court vision than Bron as in seeing plays develop and anticipating players’ movements.
    But i really believe Bron’s handle is a lil bit tighter than Magic’s.
    The game of basketball is still caught in an evolution: the players are bigger, stronger, faster, including their handle (would love to see Bob Cousy vs EBoy, The Stilt vs Diesel etc)
    That bein said, i really believe Magic would have a harder time showcasing his handles in today’s NBA game. And not to take anything away because i love watching him in that purple and gold tighties but Bron has the better handle, Magic the vision. And probably only in rings and assists will Magic have the upperhand and that’s a big probably. (Now don’t go out and kill me like you did spanny. lol)

  • Robert Posted: Mar.10 at 6:31 am
    @Lebron is greater than Kobe: ah yeah in majority of nights, i’ll take a 38 year old Shaq over a 22 year old Bynum.

  • Robert Posted: Mar.10 at 6:33 am
    So big news huh? Casey Jacobson likes Lebron and thinks Kobe is too much of an ego maniac so that’s why he’s rooting for Lebron. Very impartial.

  • bill breedley Posted: Mar.10 at 7:29 am
    lebron just became dwade x 10 this year. i thought the eastern finals last year was absurd with how no once could touch the queen. this year, the nba manages to further insult the public by calling even more ticky tack fouls against anyone who breathes on the queen. on the other side, the boy gets away with anything. lebron is probably averaging like what? 1 foul a game? sickening i tell you. if a foul wasn’t called everytime lebron drove to the basket, his averages would drop bigtime. and whatever happened to the offensive foul rule? lowering your shoulder and initiating contact on the defender who is just keeping his ground was a charge last i checked. even shaq got called for charges when he was dominating the league. it’s the bias for manufactured “stars” by the nba makes me not root for queen james. the greatest ever, michael jordan, got special treatment from the refs but nothing like what this overhyped guy is getting at the moment. if the nba treated dwight the same way, he would be the second coming of wilt. seriously casey? bron over kobe? please. kobe actually comes out cool beside the joke they call the king. we are al witnesses indeed to the farce of a game we have been watching since last year

  • bill breedley Posted: Mar.10 at 7:37 am
    7 game winners already for that ego maniac kobe bryant?!?!? makes this article look totally absurd. seriously casey? if you are not rooting for superman, you’ve got to go for the 30 something year old guy who wins the game winners again and again on the broken hand.

  • NotebookNick Posted: Mar.10 at 9:37 am
    I personally feel that the only other edge Kobe has over LeBron (after the aforementioned championships) is clutch-factor. I think I might want “the hot hand” (whoever that may be) before LeBron at the end of the game. That just shouldn’t happen.

  • Mvp23100 Posted: Mar.10 at 9:47 am
    Kill yaself bill kobe hasnt played close to lbj those game winners make fools forget about all the 12-30 nites quick huh

  • -Mas- Posted: Mar.10 at 10:30 am
    Only good thing in this article: that almost without wanting to Pau Gasol got called a Superstar.

  • LA Huey Posted: Mar.10 at 12:09 pm
    bill, before throwing out how many game-winners Mamba’s made, you might want to remember the Lakers’ level of competition for those respective games.

  • vtrobot Posted: Mar.10 at 12:10 pm
    @ The Seed: ‘Nique was THAT good of a passer? C’mon, dude. ‘Nique often ran the full court and emphatically blocked people from behind on a regular basis? I don’t care who’s better (Kobe v. ‘Bron). It’s somewhat pointless to argue about it. It’s just opinion. ‘Bron’s passing has been one of my favorite aspects of his game since the beginning. Who in NBA history had that much athletic and scoring ability and has as good court vision and passing ability as ‘Bron?

  • Dfrance Posted: Mar.10 at 1:17 pm
    What i think is absurd it to compare players from different eras of basketball. IT CANNOT BE DONE!!!! For one, there is nothing to base the comparison on being that todays players never actually played against yesterdays players. Secondly, players evolve over the years so the whole Magic/Lebron comparison is stupid. If you think that Lebron wouldn’t totally dominate playing in the late 70s early 80s NBA then you’re an idiot. If you think that CP3 wouldn’t take the ball away from Magic every other time up the court than you’re lying to yourself. Thats not to say one era is better, it’s just different.

  • JHaney Posted: Mar.10 at 2:01 pm
    This debate is getting old. Kobe is still the man and LeBron is knocking at the door. You can’t go wrong with either one. As for comparing the two, Kobe is more like Mike and LeBron is something like Nique. Kobe has the drive to win like Mike and LeBron has the athletic ability like Nique. LeBron’s game is still improving but Kobe’s game remains at an elite level while he is in the 30+ club. The debate will continue until LeBron gets a ring but that want happen until Kobe leaves the game. Lakers-Boston rematch. Lakers in 6

  • nbk Posted: Mar.10 at 2:49 pm
    This Magic could handle the ball better then LeBron idea is ridiculous. Magic used his body to protect the ball, he was not an “all-world” ball handler. He had guys 6 to 9 inches shorter then him guarding him his whole career. When Magic was pressured full court, in a non-fast break he would dribble up the court much like Mark Jackson. He would just use his body to protect the ball. LeBron is clearly a better ball handler. BUT Magic was SMARTER, and intelligence trumps all skill. Magic playing 20 years ago is skewing some memories. Almost every guard in the league today handles the ball better then anyone in the 80′s minus Isiah

  • nbk Posted: Mar.10 at 2:50 pm
    LeBron has done something Michael, Nique and Kobe all have never done. Been to the finals without a true 2nd tier player. Judging a 25 year old on championship rings is beyond stupid

  • Allenp Posted: Mar.10 at 3:06 pm
    JoeMama
    Why shouldn’t it be about the money?
    The NBA is a conglomerate of corporations. The point of corporations is making money. They hire employees to help them towards that goal.
    Seriously, why should players put winning above money?
    Will many pay their bills late in life? Will it allow them to provide a better life for the families and friends?
    Can it keep you cold in the summer and warm in the winter?
    What exactly does “winning” do?
    So you won a contest, and what’s the point? The next year you will do the same thing all over again. Why is that seen as important, while providing for the human beings you care about is not?
    I swear, people are brainwashed. I want players to compete. I want them to try hard because it makes for a better game. But, it’s just entertainment. It’s a game played for my entertainment. Why would I be upset that the entertainers want to make as much money as possible while entertaining me?
    It’s hilarious how it’s often the most conservative folks (And this isn’t directed at you Joe) who complain about players only caring about the money? The same folks who worship at the altar of capitalism complain that athletes want to get paid.
    Just hilarious.

  • Jukai Posted: Mar.10 at 5:33 pm
    NBK: I think we’re in a semantical disagreement.
    Ball handling, to me, is overall protection of the ball.
    The fact that Magic COULd protect the ball in the low post area while keeping his dribble means he was a better ball handler than Lebron James, to me.
    I guess it’s semantics. If we’re talking about dribbling moves, I consider that dribbling. And yeah, Lebron was a better dribbler.
    Also, remember, Magic dealt with handchecking. Lebron hasn’t. Lebron can get away with a lot more in terms of dribbling. But that’s a little digression.

  • Jukai Posted: Mar.10 at 5:36 pm
    I also love posters like JHaney, who first state that Kobe is better than Lebron, then shame people for having a debate because you can’t go wrong with either. Hysterical.
    I have a feeling when people say Lebron is like Dominique Wilkins, they haven’t actually seen Wilkins play outside of youtube clips.

  • jamaal 16 Posted: Mar.10 at 6:26 pm
    Yeah he went to the finals with no help and he got swept

  • jamaal 16 Posted: Mar.10 at 6:29 pm
    Lebron is more like magic with a splash of Dr jay

  • Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Mar.10 at 9:21 pm
    Allenp: You have a point, but that argument can work against ANYTHING we appreciate outside of money.
    Let’s say filmmakers all thought the way you think ball players should think (and many of them do, but that’s a different argument). Where is the art (I h@te using this generic term in an argument, but you know what I mean) if it’s all about money? Where is the enjoyment, the satisfaction about watching something knowing it was manufactured JUST TO SELL YOU SOMETHING?
    What about music? I want people making music from the heart because they are talented; I don’t want companies trying to sell me some gimmicky Jonas Brothers sh!t.
    There’s having mass appeal and there’s disregarding everything for money.
    The point is, if every basketball player started out playing with the goal of making quick dollars, if every writer started out writing novels with the goal of selling books, if every director started out shooting films with the goal of racking up profits at the box office, THE INTEGRITY AND THE ENJOYMENT OF EVERYTHING WE AS FANS CHERISH WOULD BE GONE.
    I agree, players DESERVE the right to provide for their families, since the corporation is making billions off of their efforts. However, the point is most players should love what they do and compete and play with passion because that’s what basketball is about.

  • Seven Duece Posted: Mar.11 at 1:14 am
    I’m still trying to figure why Casey isn’t back in the NBA. He could be in Anthony Parker’s role EASY!

  • DRE Posted: Mar.11 at 2:10 am
    Keep on doing your thang bro, Personally Bron Bron, The articles keep getting hot kid and all the comments louder.

  • Blakos Posted: Mar.11 at 5:12 am
    Cosign Teddy the bear. Nothing wrong with making money of your skills and talent. However, personally if i took on a profession/career solely for money my life would be unfulfilling. Allen i get the point your trying to make but i’m not sure you articulated quite how you would of liked.

  • Harlem_World Posted: Mar.11 at 8:49 am
    Lebron handle better than magic? Really?…wow… First of all, for the true hoops heads out there, ball handling shouldn’t be defined by how tight your crossover is, it’s about all around control and protection of the ball. Lebron is not better than magic at that. Lebron is good, but Magic is arguably the greatest of all time in controlling and protecting the ball, and had proved it in many more clutch situations than Lebron has had the opportunity to play in yet. That all being said, when its all over, Lebron may go down as the best player of all time. Yep.

  • NUPE Posted: Mar.11 at 10:10 am
    I’m not rooting for Bron, but I am rooting for the Cavs. Since Bron and Kobe are playing at the same time, I think to compare them is fair and I’d take Bron over Kobe anyday. Bron just makes everybody around him better where Kobe/MJ do/did not. To compare Bron to Magic or Nique is not possible to do fairly. Magic was a pg not needed to score and had to deal with handcheck. Bron has to score and does not have to deal with handchecks so how he uses his body to protect the ball, the style of play of the Cavs versus the showtime lakers etc are too diff to compare. Maybe saying Bron is more athletic than Magic is fair and similar to Niques athletic ability is fair too. But to compare skill, stats etc without fully considering competition, system, role, supporting cast etc, makes a true compareison too nebulous (evne difficult from players of the same era). So, Could Lebron be better than Kobe or anybody else (regardless of rings)? Yes. Could Kobe be better? Yep. Is there a definitve way to prove it without just a bunch of speculation (e.g. if Kobe had the Cavs and Bron had the Lakers etc.)? Nope. Many great players from past and present to choose from. Greatest of all time is a debate that I don’t believe can/will ever be solved.

  • Allenp Posted: Mar.11 at 11:17 am
    Teddy and Blakos
    I think personal integrity is important, and I never said it wasn’t.
    I said why shouldn’t providing for their families be the highest priority for NBA players.
    To a certain degree, money provides security. It provides access. Money allows you to give your children and their children a head start in life that can have a huge impact on their future accomplishments. No, I don’t think money is the best thing in the world, nor do I think it solves all problems, but I do realize it plays an important role in our lives.
    JoeMama argued that its wrong that earning money is the number one priority for NBA players. Honestly, the first problem with that assertion is that he offers no concrete proof and instead relies on conjecture and feelings. If you look at it logically, why would Kobe and Lebron, particularly Kobe who has earned nearly $200 million in his career, continue to do what they do if it was simply about money? They have money. Money isn’t what’s making them get up early in the morning and perfect their games. It isn’t what keeps them in the weight room or doing road work. Both Kobe and Lebron are talented enough that they could have made all the money they wanted while expending no where near the same amount of effort. So, on its face, JoeMama’s assertion that money is obviously the main priority needs some more proof.
    But, let’s say JoeMama is right. Money is the number one priority for almost all NBA players.
    Why is that so bad?
    He said “number one” not the only priority. Neither Lebron, nor Kobe, are doing anything illegal. Their jobs don’t hurt others. So, why is it a problem that their first goal for working is to earn money?
    Isn’t that the first goal of almost everybody who works? Everybody wants to get paid for their labor, and they want to be paid fairly.
    Every man should want to take care of his family.
    I understand the argument that art and music and things of that nature should be about more. I get that.
    But, we’re talking about grown men who play a game for a living. A freaking game!
    I think people expect sports to be these bastions of purity completley devoid of the realities of real life, but that’s just not realistic or fair. Sports are a business, with owners and employees. Just like every other business.
    They are in the business of playing a game for our enjoyment. The sooner people start to think about sports like that, the better, in my opinion.

  • bill breedley Posted: Mar.12 at 12:39 pm
    blah blah blah! lebron is good and has the same freakish athletic skills as nique. the only reason people never got to see dominique rise to the level of MJ and Lebron now is because the NBA did not give the guy the same extra superstar treatment lebron gets now. not saying lebron, kobe and mj would not be great without the superstar treatment they get, but their stats would not be as other worldly if the refs called things evenly. like i said the only reason we think bron is a crazy freight train to the basket is because the refs allow him to charge through anyone. minus the star treatment i would probably think he would be just at par with dominique. he probably just tops nique with his court vision. still i must say, lebron will never reach the status of mj and kobe. he is just not a winner. without kobe or dwade he would not even have an olympic medal. and all you bron jockers know that. where was he in the gold medal game when things got tight? boy showed he is not the MAN in the clutch.

  • Casey Jacobsen Posted: Mar.14 at 5:25 pm
    I’m trying to make more appearances in the comments section. I really appreciate all of you taking the time to read, even if you don’t like the blogs! @kwame: I’m not comparing LBJ’s passing with Nash, Kidd or any other PG…I was just commenting on the fact that he is a superior scorer than almost anyone else in the league, yet still passes more than other scorers. Magic was an amazing passer, but he was no where near LeBron in regards to scoring. @bill breedley: I know this topic has been talked about enough, but I tried to bring a fresh perspective with the help of the new movie that came out about James and his AAU/ HIgh School days. The movie provided new insight to why LeBron plays the way he does. @The Seed: Did I steal your bike or something when we were little? You seem really angry at me. I understand that all comments aren’t positive and I also understand that some won’t agree with me, but your comments seem like something else. If I did steal something from you…sorry about that. Thanks for reading, though. By the way…Magic is still alive. @Allenp: Thanks for always reading. Your comments are always appreciated.

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