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Friday, April 30th, 2010 at 12:35 pm  |  132 responses

LeBron James Wins Second MVP

by Marcel Mutoni / @marcel_mutoni

The least competitive MVP race, perhaps ever, comes to an official conclusion this Sunday. LeBron will be awarded with his second consecutive Maurice Podoloff trophy.

He should’ve won it unanimously, but that would’ve made far too much sense for some of the voting media.

The Plain Dealer has the details:

At age 25, James becomes the second-youngest to win back-to-back MVPs. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar was a couple of months younger when he won his back-to-back award in 1972. The others two win back-to-back are Steve Nash, Tim Duncan, Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, Moses Malone, Wilt Chamberlain, Bill Russell and Abdul-Jabbar. Only Bird, Chamberlain and Russell ever won the award three years in a row.

Last year James won in a landslide, getting 109 of the first-place 121 votes given out to sportswriters and broadcasters who cover the league. This year, James is expected to approach winning the award unanimously. However, several voters have said they did not plan to vote for James. This year the NBA also allowed fans to vote, with their preference to make up the 122nd vote. The results of the voting will be announced Sunday by the league.

James averaged 29.7 points, 7.3 rebounds and 8.6 assists per game in leading the Cavs to a second consecutive 60-win season. He was named Eastern Conference Player of the Month four times during the season.

Congratulations to LBJ on the much-deserved award.

All he needs for his trophy case now, is an NBA Finals MVP.

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  • mike

    No way really?!?! Thought it was gonna be Gilbert Arenas

  • http://alan.george@gmail.com Breeze

    well deserved but i rather the finals mvp …mamba!

  • http://wrwood1@aol.com WOODY

    Not a surprise for a long time. How close to unanimity will it be?

  • Jessdogg

    How did everyone overlook JJ Reddick?

  • http://www.realcavsfans.com Anton

    What does Dwight Howard think about this?

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    So, he’s eclipsed **** in his MVP totals in just 7 seasons? Yeah. A title this season and >>>> can go away quietly into the night, and reminisce and be bitter about his much touted past, like his copycat role-model does today.

  • http://Www.slamonline.com Myles Brown

    Well that’s nice. Hi Ryan!

  • Joey E.

    If LeBron really wanted to, he would have won every award this year

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/CathedralsRecords?feature=mhw4 Earl

    Kobe Bryant, the real MVP. (Finals)

  • playa

    Yeah Eboy, one tittle and all of sudden bron becomes the best in the history of the game…i thought if you dont have at least 2-3 of them you dont even belong in the conversation,and if kobe somehow ends up a champion this season,may oh may you’ll be crying&whining all over the place just like last year b..ch

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    playa obviously hasn’t had the taste of Lebron’s cum washed out of his mouth yet.

  • http://www.nba.com/bobcats Anton

    @Eboy … Bryant ECLIPSED bron by having 3 ships in his first 7 seasons. If Bron doesn’t win one this year… let me guess; his elbow was hurting?

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    I’d like the real Anton to be present….not the retread. You know what would be funnier still? To have Shaq get his 5th ring against his former team in the Finals and get carried to it, like Kobe was carried to his three by Shaq.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Oh…and wasn’t this a Lebron thread about his MVP win, so why are all the Kobe trolls here? Jealous b**ches.

  • jdubbs29

    Wait, didn’t KoME have the most dominant center in history outside of Wilt? In his prime? And then a superskilled center in Gasol.

    Lebron is better than Kobe ever was. Kobe kids don’t know this or won’t admit it. End of story.

  • Jessdogg

    Lebron Individually this year was far better then Kobe has ever been in any particular year. I can’t even see how people can argue. The last person to be better then Bron currently is individually is Michael Jordan 1987 – 93.

  • Joey E.

    im still mad about last year’s MVP. Chauncey was CLEARLY Most Valuable Player in the L.

  • Jesse Dunns Ghost

    I still cant understand how Steve Nash won 2 of these? How is he on that list? Sportswriters are dumb b-ball voters!!! They should just let slam readers handle this stuff from now on..

  • JHaney

    This is getting old. The only way really anyone can get people’s attention these days is to put Kobe’s name in it. Even when it comes to Lebron winning MVP. No doubt he had a good year, but others got injured. The media is always praising him but he hasn’t won anything yet. All the acting he does, not shaking hands, getting dunked on, etc. If that was Kobe, you’ll would be tearing his head off. But if anyone can handle being critizied, its Kobe Bryant. The MVP is good, but the finals MVP tops all. Until he win a ring, then that’s when the debate between Kobe and Lebron should start. Until then, Kobe is still the best player in the world, it’s just some can’t stand to say it. Lakers repeat.

  • http://www.yahoo.com christian wells

    lebron:season MVP,NBAchampion,finals MVP.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    JHaney, Michael had 6 Finals MVP’s and 5 Regular Season MVP’s. At this rate, and your logic, Kobe and Lebron both have exactly two MVP trophies, 9 off the greatest ever’s lead. I think only ONE of the two of them have an actual CHANCE to even those totals, however far-fetched that may seem and that one guy doesn’t have a single Finals MVP yet.

  • kobesbestfriend

    I wonder if Queen James will shake the Kobster’s hand when he is presented with the Bill Russell Trophy(the real mvp trophy)in mid June or will he go home and cry 2 mama like he did when Dwight spanked that as$ last year!!!

  • Sparty’s Law

    Numbers don’t lie.

  • http://minusthebars.blogspot.com Don

    Worst kept secret ever. LeBron James deserves this MVP award. He really does.

    Soon we will be saying the same about Kevin Durant.

  • http://shinefluid@aol.com CHRIS

    THIS WAS UNANIMOUS!! HE WAS THE BEST PLAYER…BUT ITS TIME TO WIN THAT RING LEBRON!!!

  • http://Slamonline.com Mvp23100

    Easy i got funds to pick up we knew this in october kobe who?

  • JHaney

    Eboy: Kobe would have more regular season MVP awards if the media really kept it real. The only reason that it didn’t happen is because they didn’t want him to get them. The point is if your going to compare the greatest player of all time to someone, it would be Kobe Bryant.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Eboy

    Uhm….I think that would be in reverse, comparing Kobe to Michael, not vice versa. And Kobe’s career is on it’s downward slope, Lebron hasn’t even reached his peak yet, so I’ll reserve judgement until Lebron hit’s 30.

  • kudos

    Lebron will the be the first 4 time regular season mvp with no rings in the history of the game. He’s a bigger charles barkley with less of an offensive game. Same horrid defense though, -

  • jdubbs29

    @Jesse Dunns Ghost:

    Why are you hating on Nash? He had some incredible seasons and its no surprise that all of this great PG play has come since everyone is copying his style now.

    NASH: GOAT PG not named Magic?

  • Ricco

    What does kobe have to do with lebron’s MVP award? Dwight prolly finished second in the voting anyway…

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    Lets get a few things straight. If the Lakers are gonna win the finals Pau Gasol will be the finals MVP. Relying on Kobe has LA going to game 6 against OKC. you aren’t winning title shooting under 40% against the 8 seed while your most efficient scorer is shooting between 9-14 shots a game.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    and Kobe has one MVP trophy for a reason. He has only been the LEAGUE MVP once

  • http://aol.com RUN’N'GUN219

    jdubbs29- YEAH RIGHT. NASH DID NOT DESERVE 1 LET ALONE TWO MVPS> THE YEAR HE WON THE SECOND ONE. KOBE SCORED 36 PPG 5 APG AND 6RBG AND TOOK A TEAM WITH SMUSH PARKER ABD CHRIS MIHM TO THE PLAYOFFS> NASH PUT UP 17 PTS AND 11 APG ON A OFFESIVE JUGARNAUT TEAM THAT PLAYED NO DEFENSE. SO YEAH OK NASH IS THE GOAT OF OVERHYPED POINT GAURDS.

  • http://www.MrBruCru.blogspot.com MrBruCru

    Nothing taken from LeBron James but Kobe Bryant doesn’t need to win Back to Back MVP’s to be considered one of the best ever to play the game. Last I checked Kobe needed Shaq to win those 3 rings as much as Shaq needed him. They went hand in hand. Kobe could’ve not gotten the ONE MVP title he has and he would still go in the Hall Of Fame…LeBron will be there too when it’s all said and done. Why all the hostility? jeez

  • UnRel

    i’m a kobe fan more than i’m a lebron fan.. but this article has nothing to do with kobe..

  • Aaron

    This MVP is straight up unclassy. See his post-game interview where he tears the Raptors up unnecessarily.

  • http://gmail dirty frank

    Well said MrBruCru. Kobe AND Lebron are two incredible players. Two of the best ever. I wish everyone would enjoy the show and quit making such an issue over which one is better.

  • http://gmail dirty frank

    BTW. Congrads Lebron. What a season.

  • http://alan.george@gmail.com Breeze

    lets get this straight!. this is an lebron thread its well deserved but lets not forget whos the people poll nba pol player of this decade kobe !.. i dont want to take nothing from lebron but if some of you dum dudes ask lebron he would tell you @eboy i have few years to reach kobe… what the mamba has done with the ball has been nuthin less than great top 5 greatest player..good luck lebron!!!

  • http://yahoo.com kevin armenta

    When its all said and done lebron is gonna have more MVPs than championships.10/0…

  • roman

    Eboy- lehype isnt getting pass the Celtics. Just a fyi- stop hyping him up, all he’s gonna do is disappoint you!!!!

  • jdote

    lol.. idk i kinda agree with kevin.. people keep saying he’ll win a title like its a foregone conclusion. But Orlando and Boston are gonna be tough to get by.. Not to mention the Lakers, and Kobe in the finals. And then after this year, all i’m sayin is don’t let D-wade get some help out there in Miami…and don’t let Joe Johnson or Bosh sign in Chicago…League is just too talented to just assign people championships

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Micahel Scorn

    For anyone to say he is not the King, doesn’t know sh!t about basketball.

  • Jr. CROOKS

    @anton you’re a tool kobe has had a great team almost every year he played LBJ didn’t get a serious team till maybe last year and this year. Kobe Had Shaq in his prime… when shaq was putting 45 a game in the playoffs Kobe isn’t a complete player.. other then Jason Kidd i think LBJ is the only one in the league who has the potential to avg. a triple double… Kobe is great… but after shaq left they were horrible and it was only until they got pau and odom did they become great again.. the cavs until the trade dealine would be like a 40-45 win team without LBJ.. LBJ just needs championships and this guy just turned 25.. LBJ has titles if he has another superstar with him at a young age.. He single handily brought the Cavs out of basketball obscurity.

  • http://wrwood1@aol.com WOODY

    I can see how people could think/hope that Lebron won’t get a ring this year. Mainly, they support other teams. That’s fine. However, I don’t understand why anybody could say that he will never win a ring. He has at least 10 years left and will only be playing on championship quality teams, since he can play where he chooses. Ten years on what he believes to be one of the top two or three teams in the league, wherever it is. How could he not win one or more?

  • Holiday

    The NBA needs to rename this award “NBA’s best player”, cause almost always it goes to the highest scorer or biggest name! Like anybody claiming Kobe should have it must think the Lakers would fall apart without him! There are teams that need certain players to even compete seriously, were other guy’s although stars play with a great deal of talent!

  • Macgyver

    and no..kevin durant will never win any individual awards that’s for sure cuz it looks like he can’t shoot a jump shot when his beeing played physically..i have watched every game from lakersVSthunder series and the only time durant has made any is when his wide open..one or two bad games could be coincidence but 5 horrible games,shooting 38percent from the field proves that durant can only shoot wide open jumpers..he is definately the biggest chocker in the nba playoffs this year..westbrook,ibaka etc are carrying okc..

  • dino

    LeBron the MVP! tell me something i don’t know. The only “MVP” i care about is the one that comes with the Larry O’Brien trophy. wake me when LeBron wins that one

  • The Philosopher

    This is what we are witnessing, masses. We are watching a diffrent breed right now. A rare breed. A lot of us talk about how we understand how special The King is. This is his time. We, as I’ve stated before, are on “basketball holy ground”. And the “non – believers” will know, AND recognize…who is THE KING.

  • The Philosopher

    And, as far as Kobe Bryant, I’ll say this, for whatever it’s worth: Kobe is an all timer. A legend. We all know that. He won the Ring without Shaq. That’s universally understood, etc. But, the truth is the truth, and for many, the truth is very distressing, but LeBron James is a better basketball player than Kobe Bryant ever was. He has been a better passer than Bryant since he was in HIGH SCHOOL. And this is a fact for people who really know the game.

  • The Philosopher

    People like to say that Kobe is the better defender, better shooter. People can no longer make that argument rationally, period. And, Kobe gets lit up by lesser players. Larry Hughes gave him 40, Gilbert Arenas gives him 60. And it don’t matter who was guarding those guys those nights, either. Kobe is SUPPOSED to be Michael to alot of the masses. Michael didn’t get lit up for 60 against anyone.

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    Philosopher SHUT UP, dude Lebron has been lit up by scrubs to, dude KObe gave MJ 55, also people forget the young Kobe, he could do anything he was made to be a passer, he is a scorer. Lebron likes to pass, Kobe is brainwashed like MJ and thats it. YOu can have Lebron, but he is not winning any titles for a while. Orlando is the beast of the east and Lebron is a joke cat, your faith is in a dude who SAT score is lower than my birthdate.

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    Lebron is Dominque Wilkins that can pass. Also watch Kobe old tapes. The same age Bryant would kill Lebron right now, if you say anything different your a FOOL cat. Just because the white media gives this tattooed hang around Jay Z bubble lip punk, barely can talk straight, I can’t make a jump shot unless we are up by 6 points who deferrs in crunch time to Mo Williams. Dude shut the _____ UP.

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    When Lebron gets put out in 5 games by the Celtics no excuse he has not teammates or his elbow is hurting he has choked before and will again, people forget Orlando beat them last year because the suppose pass SF passer ever didn’t pass (trust teammates) watch the games please I did, Also the Lebron lovers I hate the Celtics but they will kill the Cavs then PhilosDUMMY, talk about the rare breed from a choke point.

  • The Philosopher

    @The Seed: I understand your hostility. As I’ve said earlier, to many of the masses, the gentiles, the truth is very distressing. And for you, particularly, this truth makes you procure anger. I’m sympathetic for you because you are in denial about what is fact. But, you are not the only one, so, don’t feel like you are alone, for many of people are as ignorant to the facts as you seem to be.

  • http://www.nottherealmelvinely.com melvin ely

    did…did the Seed actually just got trolled this hard? I’ve never seen anything like this on the internet before. Thank you philosopher.

  • http://deleted Coney Islander

    Thats ight LeBron, now take the Knicks to the NBA finals and you will be the greatest ever! lol

  • http://kb24.com Bigi

    All Hail The King!

  • http://myspace.com/mcnarrative Kieran

    To all the Kobe fans who are saying that Finals MVP is all that matters. What does it say about Kobe Bryants legacy when he has been to the finals 6 times, yet has only been considered the best player once?

  • neaorin

    OK enough with the Finals MVP and the rings BS, you need an entire TEAM to win championships – easiest example is 2004 NBA Finals when the Lakers had the same star power as their previous three-peat squads but got owned by a team with MAYBE one HoF’er on the roster but which played great team basketball. Put LeBron on the 2000 Lakers and he wins three rings too.

  • http://www.nba.com/bobcats Anton

    RIGGGSSSSSS
    MELOMMMAAAANNNNNNNNN
    MVVVVPPPPPPPP
    lol losers

  • http://www.hibachi20.blogspot.com Hursty

    I love reading “The Seed’s” comments. They make me laugh.

  • http://www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    Seed has deep seeded Bron Bron hate. Yikes.

  • dino

    Kobe has never been a “true” MVP

  • http://www.nba.com/suns Dacre

    It’s going to be ‘The Peoples Finger’ -vs- ‘LeLBow’…

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    Kobe has the most 30 point games in NBA history in cliniching games with 6 and MJ has 5, Thats Clutch. Also I did go overboard with my comments but some of yall stat loving Lebron Jane ___ riders thing this dude is it. He will choke and I will LAUGH LAUGH and LAUGH hard, plus now his elbow is an excuse, last year it was teammates and they had best record in NBA, he can earn six MVP’s, but his career will not produce what yall expect. Orlando will be great for years and if Bosh goes to Miami, its over for the East. Celtics in 5. BOOK IT!!!

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com/ Tariqُُ

    Wow. Just look at that list. Amazing. Just amazing.

  • Mr. Robinson

    @The Philosopher: CLASSIC!

  • B-More Mike

    I can’t lie anymore, Bron the best thing poppn! Defended Kobe for years but like some of guys said if LBJ had Shaq when he was young like Kobe did, child please he be working on 10 rings. But at the same how would Shaq had received Bron if that was the case? You do have to remember other than the Colorado incident the main beef between the 2 was shaq’s work ethic! How would lebron have handled that? We need 2 enjoy both guys right now really instead arguing about, but I know from being a player myself that if I had 2 choose who to play with it’s LBJ! All that said GO LAKERS!!!!!!!!!

  • http://www.nba.com/bobcats Anton

    Where are all the Denver gobblers at … they ran out of the room pretty quick, you would think John Belushi farted.

  • Jesse Dunns Ghost

    @Jdubb: read Jhaneys post, Nash shoiuldnt have even won those, Kobe was the best player in the league during those seasons. Furthermore I think you’re forgetting Stockton as the GOAT pg since Magic…He actually played defense (all time steals leader), Nash is just a pylon, and tony Parker will be feasting on layups again all series..

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    The others two win back-to-back are Steve Nash, Tim Duncan, Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, Moses Malone, Wilt Chamberlain, Bill Russell and Abdul-Jabbar. Only Bird, Chamberlain and Russell ever won the award three years in a row.
    One of these things just doesn’t belong…

  • The Philosopher

    LONG LIVE THE KING!!!! LONG LIVE THE KING!!!

  • Orlando Green

    Well deserved, he is definitly the MVP this season. However, his stats are so inflated by their system. Put Kobe in the same system and he would have the same stats! That said, Kobe will get number 5 this season and the Cavs won’t make it to the finals.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Well-deserved.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    And Cavs are not losing to the Celtics. No way. Orlando maybe.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Allenp: You’re right. Tim Duncan (*cough* Jason Kidd).

  • http://myspace.com/mcnarrative Kieran

    There is no system in the world where Kobe is averaging 8.6 assists! Laughable to even suggest the statistical chasm is because of the “system”

  • http://www.nba.com/bobcats Anton

    Kieran you tool. He wouldn’t get 8.6 assists. But about 8 ppg more.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    What the hell is so special about the Cavs “system?”
    Are you freaking serious? How does Mike Brown get blasted for his lack of an offensive system, and then we’re told it’s that same “system” that makes Lebron great?
    Ridiculous.
    Kobe played in the same sort of “system” when he averaged 35 points per game. And he still didn’t average 9 assists and 8 rebounds. Never.
    Stop the crap people, just stop it.
    Kobe is not carrying the cats Lebron carried to the best record in the league. He’s just not. It’s not going to happen, and it never would have happened. He barely got Smush and company into the playoffs, although he put a helluva of a scare into the Suns once he got there.

  • Pharaoh

    Kobe took possibly one of the worst teams ever that year with smush and a bunch of scrubs and still took the Suns to 7.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Michael Scorn

    LeBron led probobly the crappiest supporting cast ever to the best record in the NBA.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    And he took an equally bad team as Kobe had to the freaking FINALS?
    And had to go through a Detroit team that was better than that Suns team to do it.
    Did y’all forget that? As much as I rag on that Suns team, it was without Amare, and really small inside, which allowed Odom to beast out in a way he has never duplicated.
    Lebron was carrying cats like Boobie and Eric Snow to the Finals and had to beat a Pistons team with Chauncey and Co.
    I mean, that Pistons team had some slippage, but it was still stronger than the Suns team and the Cavs beat them. The Cavs then took the same Celtics team that dismantled the Lakers in six, to seven games and only a ridiculous performance by Paul Pierce won that game.
    I don’t mind folks arguing that Kobe is better, but I hate when people twist the truth about what Kobe has done and what he could do.

  • The Philosopher

    LeBron is better than all of them.

  • barnabusb

    LeBron makes baby Jesus look like just a regular baby.

  • kudos

    Considering that “ALLEN IVERSON” took eric freaking snow to the finals, question becomes is lebron better than a.i.?? BTW, lebron’s system is him being pg, sg, and pf(point forward) all on the team. Watch any cavs game and you’ll see he takes the ball up the court the most. Why do you think no one else on his team averages more assists?? There’s no assists to go around. you guys cant be that stupid.

  • kudos

    Kobe doesn’t even handle the ball nearly as much, he’s not that stupid.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Kudos, Lebron is clearly better than Iverson.
    And, the Eric Snow Iverson carried to the Finals was far better than the one Lebron took. In addition, the Pistons team that Lebron beat was better than any team Iverson faced in the Eastern Conference Finals that year. I think Lebron took the least talented team of all time to the Finals that year.
    Furthermore, how come I never hear people downplayng the passing ability of Steve Nash, Deron Williams and Chris Paul because they average the most assists on their teams by a wide margin? Who else on Phoenix averages five assists? Does that mean that Nash’s assist totals mean nothing?
    And in what world is is easy to put up 30, 8, 8 when everybody knows that you are the best player on the team? How is it easy to score when everybody knows what’s coming?
    How come people don’t make these same complaints about Jordan’s dominance back in the day when he had nobody on his squad with him? When Jordan put up crazy numbers (Numbers which were was better than what Lebron is doing) I’ll bet that none of you cats though “Oh, those numbers are bogus cause Mike doesn’t have anyone on his team.”

  • BostonBaller

    He deserved it, point blank. I don’t want to hear another word about the elbow though. Before game 1 tip off they showed LBJ tossing balls at the hoop from half court (out of bounds) with his right hand. Come on man, if you have any sort of injury you do NOT do anything that may inflame it. A player would have to be a complete moron to do that and LBJ is not a moron…I’m just saying…

  • barnabusb

    LeBron just likes to be in the spotlight.

  • BostonBaller

    Wow, we just lost and it was a decent game.. a few calls here and there make a big difference but a loss is a loss. I look forward to game 2. BTW, LBJ was doing a lot of hi fives and hand shakes and jumping bumps with that right…just say’n. lol. He is a beast.

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    @Allenp: Good points. That Suns team Kobe met in the playoffs some years back was so small inside, Kwame was seen as an inside presence, and he actually WAS doing damage especially on D just by virtue of being big.

  • http://springbored.net letsmotor

    LeBron deserved this, no question. It’s interesting though (and i know i’m going to get ripped apart for this) that basketball’s becoming a game that’s more and more about athletics and less and less about pure basketball skills. I AM NOT SAYING LEBRON IS UNSKILLED, and I’m not trying to criticize him; I’m simply making a point about how the game has changed. It’s pretty clear to me that Lebron is the best player in the league right now (best meaning most dominant), but I’d still have to say that Kobe, especially given his attention to fundamentals, is the most skilled (although Lebron’s always been a better passer). Kobe is a much better jump shooter, and he has an array of moves that are not at all dependent on superior strength or athleticism. It’s just strange to me that the best and most skilled are no longer one and the same. I can’t stress enough that I’m not criticizing Lebron here–he is an absolutely amazing player and he did a great job against my C’s tonight–so please, calm down. I’m just making an observation. I’d love to hear everyone else’s thoughts on this.

  • http://www.shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Michael Scorn

    Great. LeBron won his stupid little shootball game.

  • http://www.realcavsfans.com Anton

    MVP’s are now given to althletic dumbasses? Great, there goes Nash’s chance of a threepeat.

  • The Reign Man

    WHAT !? GORTAT WASN’t mentioned !? just playing. The game has changed ? More like evolved stupid. Simple. Another one for the trophy room & it don’t mean jack to the man just now. It’l be nice as he counts em up in 10 years. Look at it like this Kobesexuals(or fishbreaths) got no where to go right now as their player is being eclipsed beutifullly so they got their hate on, it’s ok . It’s natural and as important as like gag reflex right now. Bron is a Beast back to back seasons & he far from done yet …. Mo Williams has just posterised PP. ha ha ha LOVIN IT !!

  • JoeMaMa

    LeBron is a great player, and a deserving MVP. But we should seriously stop calling it ‘witnessing’ and thinking of him as an actual King. I know that sounds funny to say, but I’m 99.534% that some people posting actually buy the sh*t coming out of Nike’s mouth. There’s a difference between fan and weirdo. Same goes for Kobe fans.

  • bnets

    Numbers dont lie, LeBron is the BEST

  • http://springbored.net letsmotor

    @The Reign Man: why do you have to turn this into an argument? i wasn’t trying to insult anyone, just make a point, so why do you have to call me stupid? Man, I hate some people on this website. God forbid an intelligent conversation takes place.

  • The Philosopher

    @letsmotor: don’t worry about people who have less knowledge and insight than you do. You know you have some of the more insightful posts on these threads. I don’t know, I’m having trouble posting comments lately, so, this might not even come up.

  • The Philosopher

    @letsmotor: don’t worry about people who have less knowledge and insight than you do. You know you have some of the more insightful posts on these threads. I don’t know, I’m having trouble posting comments lately, so, this might not even come up.

  • The Philosopher

    Masses: sorry about the double post. Now I see it.

  • The Philosopher

    Reign Man: The game hasn’t evolved. It has devolved. Guys aren’t as skilled as they used to be. This is an obvious fact.

  • Fabian

    kobe is not the real mvp
    for all you dumb people thinking that, its the king’s time now. kobe is no longer the best

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    letsmotor: Kobe IS more skilled than LeBron. That’s not a very controversial statement at all. Kobe Bryant has remained this good for this long because his fundamentals are sublime. Kobe has better handles, better shooting form, better post moves, better… pretty much everything to do with scoring, and his passing is pretty solid too (but not better than LeBron’s).

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    aw fack, I just started comparing Kobe to LeBron again…

  • http://springbored.net letsmotor

    @Philosopher and Teddy-the-Bear: Thanks. In terms of considering how the game’s changed, I agree with you when say it’s devolved, Philosopher. Still, I guess whether you enjoy the high-flying game or the game of highly refined fundamentals (and I’m not saying those two types of ball are mutually exclusive) is a matter of personal taste.

  • big_ticket

    lebron needs a ring now,kobe aint the best no more

  • Justin

    Just once I would like to see a thread about Lebron or Kobe and not have the other’s name brought up as a “who’s better” debate. OK, where to begin. One person said that Kobe is a better player because he has more rings. Wrong. He’s played on better TEAMS and had better teammates. Anyone who thinks the Lakers won those titles because of Kobe instead of Shaq is delusional. Also, anyone who thinks the real MVP is the Finals MVP is an idiot. How is someone who played well for 7 games more valuable than someone who played well over 82? Just a weak ass excuse to say Kobe is better than Lebron. I don’t understand why people just can’t enjoy the fact that we are watching greatness every time we watch EITHER of them play. Oh, and to the guy that doesn’t think Nash should have won two MVP’s…obviously you don’t know sh*t about the game either. In those two years, look at his team’s record without him vs. when he was on the floor. He actually should have won a third in a row because his stats were better than the previous two years and if I’m not mistaken, his team actually got better as well. The problem was that the writers just couldn’t fathom putting the little Canadian white kid in the same category as Chamberlain, Russell, and Bird so they gave it to Nowitzki. Teddy, shooting form has nothing to do with how good a player is. All that matters is if it goes in. Would you go back in time and change Larry Bird’s shooting form? Reggie Miller’s maybe? Exactly.

  • http://alimartin07@yahoo.com Ali

    If I was a beting man, I’d bet it all and say that all MY TOP players in The Association (Dirk, Nash, Amare, Kobe, Pau, Melo, LeBron, Rose, Granger, Wade, Howard, Durant, Roy, J. Johnson, Duncan, Paul, KG, Pierce, D. Will, Bosh, and my new addition B. Jennings) would say it’s great, really great to win indivdual awards, but the OVERALL goal of every player, every year is get in the playoffs and to win a championship. The Kobe vs. Lebron best player/MVP debate will go on forever.

  • Ronald

    @Philosopher: Kobe didn’t mark Arenas during the 60 point game.

  • The Philosopher

    @Ronald: It doesn’t matter who was guarding Arenas that night.

  • The Philosopher

    @Justin: Do you think everything is based on race?

  • Ronald

    So, somehow Arenas dropping 60 points on Smush Parker is Kobe’s fault?

  • The Philosopher

    @Ronald: It was Kobe’s fault.

  • Chazz Michael Michaels

    Psh this is a joke, the only award LeBron couldn’t have won this year was sixth man and rookie of the year, sh*t I wouldn’t be suprised if he didnt go for sixth man one year just to say he did it…

  • The Philosopher

    Big lol @Chazz Michael Michaels!!!

  • http://www.slamonline.com/ niQ

    Man, Durant was 2nd in voting.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Allenp

    Justin
    Go back and compare Lebron’s team record with him and without during Nash’s second MVP.
    And the truth is that in Nash’s first MVP year he had the least impressive statistics of any MVP in history. He beat out Shaquille O’Neall despite Shaq putting up 22 and 10, simply because Nash’s “turned Phoenix around.”
    This logic ignored the fact that the year before Nash came the Suns starting point guard for much of hte year was Howard Eisely. Or that Amare and Joe Johnson both missed chunks of the season.
    It also ignores the fact the Stephon Marbury took that same Phoenix team to the playoffs, with Amare as a rookie, and with Frank Johnson as the head coach only two seasons before Nash came.
    Contrary to the media pushed meme, that Suns team was not “weak” before Nash. It was talented and up and coming. The only reason the team had a horrible year was because of injuries.
    It’s truly funny that Nash was considered an MVP for turning around a Suns team with that level of talent on the roster, when neither Ray Allen or Rashard Lewis were considered for MVP despite how much they turned around the Sonics in that same year. Funny how that works.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    just want to point out that as soon as Allenp expressed his thoughts with some semblance of logic all the Kobe Lovers disappeared

  • http://www.twitter.com/dfrance21 dfrance21

    I just wish some of you guys weren’t so passionate about this “debate.” You guys can argue and counter all day, and its great. makes for great conversation, but the name-calling and other garbage is unnecessary.

  • AussieKnicks

    You know why Jordan was the best ever, because no one playing at the time was anywhere near as good. Lebron is so much better then anyone to ever play the game, but because Kobe is so good himself, you get idiots trying to compare the 2, and in a couple years when Kobe retires then you’ll find Kevin Durant will be compared to Lebron. No one can argue with me in saying if Lebron wanted 100 point games Lebron would get 100 point games, if he wanted 30 assists a game he would, NO ONE ELSE CAN PLAY BOTH WAYS LIKE KANG, he’ll dunk it on you then chase down the fast break and swat you then pull up from half court CAUSE HE CAN, Jordan was a scoring machine no doubt but wheres the D, you play them one on one, Jordan would get a shot off and he’d have to pull the ball out of his skull after lebron stuffs it on him. Forget lebron and kobe, KOBE IS GREAT but is no comparison, Jordan comes close but Lebron is a freak of nature, and we should all be bowing to the greatness.

  • http://big11mel@yahoo.com Big Mel

    All the guys that won back to back MVP’s are all top 5 at their position Steve Nash isn’t top 10 at his,he is a hall of famer but not a 2 time MVP,and to the dude that said he watched just the 6 games with KD and he would never win any awards wow just wow

  • ai come back

    lol i just wanna say taht reason i dislike kobe at all is because every time i bring up the fact that lebron is my favorite player some one is gonna tell me taht kobes better, they wont shut up about it and will constnaly argue honesty it doesnt matter whos better cuz i doubt lebron or kobe even care as long as they can win. nash deserved one of those mvps but lebron was puttin up 31 6 and 7 the year he got second now u CANT tell me that thats NOT bs…i kno ill be hatin on my own statement but kobe is not an mvp because his team play is not THE MOST VALUABLE……

  • ai come back

    secnd thought i gotta agree wit @dfrance21 insults take out the whole point of basketball its one thing to trash talk but its another to totally diss another dudes opinion……@Allenp thats a really good point u made about lebron taking his team to the finals and kobe takin his team to playoffs…@Ali the debate will only go on until lebron finally wins somethin..but the thing is individual player skill sets lebrons definiley got moren kobe but kobe knows how to win and hes not afraid to do everything necessary lebron knows that he needs to push even harder to get that ring which by the way dosent include dancing on the sidelines…

  • Justin

    I want some of what AussieKnicks is smoking? Did you really say “where’s the D” when talking about Jordan? You mean, the greatest defensive shooting guard in history? Really? hahahaha Obviously you’ve grown up in the age of Lebron and didn’t watch MJ in his prime, the quickness, the leaping ability. Lebron would get crowned just like all the rest of them, and not the kind of crowning that goes with being “King” either.

    AllenP…his first MVP may have had unimpressive individual stats but that doesn’t matter. It’s how valuable he is to his TEAM. And it’s not just the turnaround I’m talking about. He missed 10 games that year and I believe the Suns went 1-9. He is surefire, first ballot Hall of Famer for what he’s done on the court and deserved each MVP. Anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional and/or biased.

    Philosopher…no, I don’t think everything is about race. I think it’s a small part of why he didn’t win a third MVP

    BigMel…this should be good. Give me 10 point guards in history that are better than Nash. This should be good

  • The Philosopher

    Justin, this list is in no particular order on 10 point guards that are better than Nash in the history of the game, if you don’t mind: Magic Johnson, Oscar Robertson, Isiah Thomas, John Stockton, Jason Kidd, Bob Cousy, Tiny Archibald, Pistol Pete, Tim Hardaway, Chris Paul.

  • The Philosopher

    One can make an argument that Penny Hardaway and Kevin Johnson were better too, in their primes. Now, none of the names I’ve mentioned earlier were based off of accolades or accomplishments. They were purely based off of their skill sets and their unique brand of basketball.

  • The Philosopher

    But, Nash is still an all time point guard. I 100% agree with you on that.

  • Justin

    LMFAO @ Tiny Archibald, Isiah, Tim Hardaway, Chris Paul, Penny Hardaway and Kevin Johnson. Chris Paul might be better (barely at best) now but, which is what I’m guessing you’re comparing to.

  • http://big11mel@yahoo.com Big Mel

    Walt Clyde Frazier and Gary Payton was 2. Like I said he is a Hall of Famer. He also may be the worst defender in NBA history.

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