Michael Jordan’s Son: Don’t Compare Kobe to MJ

Justin

I agree 100%. After reading other people’s posts on this site I noticed people refering to Kobe as being one ring away from MJ but don’t forget, Kobe wasn’t the man for those first three..yea he was a key factor, BUT Jordan was the undisputed leader and best player on the their team, and in the league for that matter. Also people refering to Kobes bad game saying Jordan had bad games too. While this is true, I don’t recall many in NBA finals..Lets not forget Jordan did score 41pts and 10 assists for an entire finals series against the Suns. Also Another big factor is that Jordan played in the best time for basketball..Just because they have a similar style of play doesn’t mean their even close to being on the same playing field. And I grew up in the era of Kobe, not Jordan..and its still JORDAN ALL DAY!

bill breedley

all caps CHRIS. go back a few posts and see how MJ actually laid a couple of crappers as well in the finals way back before you were born son. mj shot and missed a lot even during the epic game 6 “final game”

E$

Kobe can’t even sell shoes on Jordan level

http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

Kobe Bryant is the closest we’ve seen to Jordan’s ability, since Jordan himself.
However, Wilt Chamberlain is the best basketball player of all time. BUT, no matter where Jordan is ranked, Kobe is right behind him.

John

Why is Jordan’s son hating on Kobe now right when Kobe just won the title. Just let him celebrate. He’s just hating right now because Kobe’s on the spotlight. He’s twittering on emotions. So soft, say it to Kobe’s face

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Jordan whooo???
It’s IVERSON you fools !!!!! (and then Lebronze..)

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On a serious note, Jordn’s son is 100% correct. I don’t think he said that Kobe ain’t one of the greatests, he just said that he cannot be considered THE greatest after performing this way for a second time in such a game. Grow up and get over this childish mentality “first is first, second is nothing”. Kobe is somewhere between 5 to 10 and that’s TRULY,TRULY great acomplishment.-

Rhodeeski

Kobe had Shaq, Gasol, Artest, Odom, Fisher, GoodBynum. MJ had Pippen, crazy ass Rodman, Luc Longley, Will Purdue, Steve Kerr, Toni Kukoc, haha!

Str8in It Out

good try but Kobe didn’t “jag” the game up. He had a poor 1st half. But his team did come up with a lot of the offensive rebounds of his misses. Even if a shot is missed, if you wait for your rebounders to get into position, its not always a bad shot FOR THE TEAM. And since the Lakers got so many offensive rebounds…and it was one of their strengths…and everyone but Kobe and Artest were scared to shoot in the first half…and they ultimately grinded it out and won the game…you can’t call Kobe’s night “jagged” up. Especially seeing as how some people have already shown MJ to have had similar games in the playoffs and still won. As long as you lead your team to victory…blah blah blah

John

Rhodeeski, r u dumb, Jordan had a great team as well, don’t even boost that Jordan completely carried that team. Pippen could do everything and could guard every position. He guarded the best players on the other team and let Jordan handle the offense. Rodman is a multiple rebounding champion and NBA all-defense. Kerr was one of the best shooting point guards.

B-More Mike

Kobe might be better than the 1st Mike but he damn sure better than the 2nd!!!

http://www.slamonline.com Nima Zarrabi

MJ: “Say, whatcha lookin at on your computer there, son?” Marcus: “Oh this? This is called Twitter. You write little insights, then they’re published to the world.” MJ: “Interesting. I need you to dictate a twitter for me.” Marcus: “You mean a ‘tweet.’”
MJ: “Come again?” Marcus: “It’s not a ‘twitter’ dad. It’s called a tweet.” MJ: “Son. Im’a tell you like I told Horace Grant everyday at practice…shut the f*** up.” (via @omidfarhang)

B-More Mike

You can’t compare a damn soul 2 the 1st mike, not 1. That was mike that provided countless highlights that no one comes close 2. Come fly with me was made before the chips!!! But that’s the 1st mike, the second mike though if you still say you can’t compare the 2 you’re crazy.

Bryce Fryar

If you want to truly get a feel for where Kobe is at compared to Jordan’s legacy, read this article. I will add this though. The one factor people ALWAYS leave out is the level of actual competition. With all the accolades, awards and championships that Jordan won, he did it against all-time greats and hall of famers IN THEIR PRIMES for the most part. Where are the hall of famers and great teams today?? Hmmm?? http://bleacherreport.com/articles/408237-bryant-vs-jordan-theres-still-no-debate-jordan-is-king

Justin

Jordan could take over a game any time he wanted. If someone said he couldnt do something, he proved them wrong. While he was dropping 30 pts a game for his career, he also was all defensive team. He was a genuis as far as knowing the game itself. He respected the game and its history. Kobe only cares about his own stats and himself. Kobe couldnt even dunk over some people in the lane in game 7. I watched him get rejected and “fouled”. Jordan would have come down the court next time and made sure he dunked over whoever. Jordan was faster,stronger, and smarter. He had more drive and more heart. Kobe is a great player, but I would put Scottie Pippen above Kobe in ANY list. And since Scottie was MJ #2, where does that leave Kobe? Kobe aint even the best LAKER ever, let alone the greatest PLAYER ever.

Rhodeeski

John, stop crying, I was just comparing the supporting cast. Rodman and Artest are similar except for Ron’s offense. Steve Kerr can damn well shoot the lights out but what else can he do? Fisher can do way more than Kerr. Odom was once compared to Pippen, and you can’t even compare the centers for maybe except Bill Cartwright. Damn dude, all I did was name people. Sensitive boy!

Stillballin

Your dad is my hero.. Kobe will never get to mj’s level..NEVER!!

Yann Blavec

Looking for the next Jordan is an Oedipus complex.

The Philosopher

Co – sign Yann Blavec, BIG TIME!!

The Philosopher

Shout out @Yugoslavia and Serbia.

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:OzhW3M1GBSKkgM:http://fashionsensei.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/jackie-moon.jpg Jackie Moon

Dude is probably just tired of people comparing himself to his dad, so he’s trying to redirect the attention.

kite

AAAARRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHH…you idiots, tell me one guy who ever won anything on his own? You’re delusional, it has never ever happened. So many of you guys have no respect for this sport, you go way to far in your hate for Kobe. Kobe is one of the best things to happen to the NBA and most of you are way to ignorant to realise it. What a crying shame.

David

Kobe is technically the best in the NBA right now, but he’s NO Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan is FAR AND AWAY the greatest of all time….easily. And yes, he is GOD. Larry Bird once said, “Jordan is GOD in basketball shoes!” Has everyone seen the kind of ‘and one’ shots Jordan is capable of making? Driving, elevating, going inside, under and over. It’s jaw dropping.

Forget the finals stats for now. Regular season, Kobe has 2 scoring titles. Jordan HAS TEN….and that’s with him ‘retiring’ after his 3rd straight championship! He easily could’ve had more scoring titles(breaking Chamberlain’s record of 7 straight) and championships if he didn’t retire the first time to play baseball.

Playoffs, Jordan still holds the all time playoff scoring record of 63 points in a game, doing it by himself against Larry Bird’s unstoppable 1986 Celtic team! Jordan has 5 MVP’s, which again he could’ve had more if he didn’t retire the first time. And also, he was ‘denied’ the MVP twice, once by Barkley in 1993 because the Suns had the best record in the league and another time by Karl Malone for similar reasons. The MVP is supposed to be given to the best player in the league regardless of team, NOT to the best player on the team that has the best record in the league.

Kobe has ONLY ONE MVP award so far.
Jordan was MVP, scoring champ, AND defensive player of the year in 87-88, something unheard of by a 6’6″ guard or by anyone for that matter. Did you read that?? MVP, scoring champ, and defensive player all in ONE YEAR. Usually, these awards are given to 3 SEPARATE players in a season! (This year, Lebron–MVP, Durant–scoring champ, Howard–defensive player of year)

Finals, Jordan led the Bulls to 6 championships winning Finals MVP everytime. Kobe got the first 3 rings because Shaq was in his prime. Kobe didn’t win his first finals MVP until last season. Jordan averaged FORTY-ONE points(is he human?) in the 1993 NBA finals, still a record today. Jordan also scored 35 points IN A HALF of an NBA finals game in 1992, still a record which NO ONE has even come close to.

It’s important to note that Jordan did all of this at time when there were so many awesome players(Hakeem, Isiah, Bird, Magic, Ewing, Robinson, King, Wilkins, Drexler, Barkley, Malone, etc…….)

There’s no way Wilt was better than Jordan. Wilt was a great player no doubt, but you also need to see the competition he was playing against. Wilt was so big back then that not many at that time could stand up to him, except for Russell and Reed. If you put Jordan up in a game against a bunch of guys like John Stockton, he too could average 50 points a game and 100 points in ONE game like Wilt did.

So again, Kobe is the best right now, even though I think D-Wade could give Kobe a serious run for his money if Wade had teammates like Kobe did. Lebron is amazing but overrated and has yet to develop a true ‘clutch’ mentality during crunch time. But Jordan is on a whole other level. As Magic Johnson said, “There’s Michael Jordan and then there’s everyone else.”

http://www.slamonline.com Pardeep

MJ’s Son: Yeah and wtf have you done? With all those genetics and abilities you were born with you should be a star in the NBA right now, you are a waste of talent

Buschfire

MJ GOAT!

Quis

You’re right Michael Jordan’s Son:

Kobe didn’t shoot 5-19 against Seattle in the Finals.

Kobe didn’t shoot 6-19 against Seattle in the Finals, being guarded by a 6’3 Gary Payton. I don’t think anyone would confuse the ’96 Sonics being anywhere near close to Boston ’08 or ’10 as a defensive unit.

Kobe didn’t shoot 15-35 against Utah TWICE in the Finals.

Why does no one remember this? Jordan also relied on the Bulls’ bench in ’92 against Portland. If not for Paxson, Pippen, and Kerr, Jordan too would not have enjoyed his success in the same way that Kobe needed Fisher, Pau, and Artest.

Oh, and MJ averaged 7 shots more per game in the post-season than Kobe, especially in the Finals. Why does no one admit this? But Kobe is called a “gunner” and MJ is not. They both win.

And please allow my comment. Why the first one got censored I don’t know. Is it blasphemy to criticize the great Jordan?

B-More Mike

Quis- no more need be said.

TKDaMan75

Once and for all… MJ is the G.O.A.T.! Period!!! Kobe is just a great scorer… The King was ALWAYS a great player!! Forget titles! 6 finals MVP’s… 10 scoring titles… 4 league MVP’s… 2-time back-to-back slam dunk champion… NBA steals leader… NBA defensive player of the year… 6-0 in the Finals! 6 and frickin’ 0!!!!… and doing it all IN EACH under 7 games while wearing the top selling basketball shoe of ALL TIME that bears HIS name… Another thing… reason why EVERYONE hates Kobe is because he is so doggone ARROGANT!!!!!! First thing he says after being asked, “What makes this title that much sweeter?”, he comes out of his anus and says, “Because I got more than Shaq!” Kobe doesn’t love the game, he loves himself! He will forever be known as a whining, selfish, arrogant PRICK!!!! LA really doesn’t love him at all! They love Magic! When any fan thinks of The Los Angeles Lakers, one name comes up… Magic Johnson, NOT Kobe Bryant! Their beloved Kobe… whom not too long ago was about to leave LA because he knew he couldn’t win!!! I didn’t like him when he came into the league and I DON’T LIKE HIM NOW!!!!!! Tell him The KING MJ said wassup…

Kid Dynamite

LOL! be cool everyone, the kid is just mad cause he’s only known as “MJ’s son”. 2 different players in different situations-if Patrick Ewing was brought to the Bulls when MJ was starting out maybe we would be telling a different story right here, if shaq wasnt brought to LA who knows? MJ is the G.O.A.T and Kobe is ice cold, but after 5-10 years there maybe a new guy with that title or maybe not. Sit back and enjoy the show and in other news I propose a Nike Kobe V and Jordan V shoe pack (man,lebron would be pissed!!)

PlanetAsia14

Kobe’s on his way, he’s closing the gap. Enough said.

http://none good series

Listen I never seen MJ loose control of a game like Kobe did last night. MJ may have had a bad shooting game but he didn’t turn the ball over constantly especially at a crucial point. Also MJ is an extremely humble guy and I can gaurantee he has no problem with people comparing Kobe to him. MJ played incredible defense the whole game which Kobe lacks and that is why I put Jordan above Kobe. Its not that Kobe can’t play defense but he saves his energy for the offense. Even Tex winters blogged about it and he was both their coach’s. I think its fair to put Kobe in the same comments because they both play the same position. Kobe is incredible and could pass Jordan but Jordan beats him in every stat except a few personal feats.

Rhodeeski

It’s obvious nobody can win by themselves. It’s just that some people have better supporting casts than others.

http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

Thank you Quis.
Also, Wilt Chamberlain is the GOAT.

logues

i hate this comparison cuz ppl actually think kobe is better or as good as mj. its obvious that their games are very similar so the comparison makes sense, but to say kobe is better than mj is just f’ing dumb. ppl tend to forget about how good players were in the past, and its easier to focus on the present. honestly, ppl seriously think lebron is top five or best player of all time! nobody dominated like mj did, kobe lost in 2 finals, one when he had shaq the most dominant player in the game at the time. they should have never lost

http://joelongweichen@gmail.com Joel O’s

Honestly wouldn’t be surprised if MJ didn’t have a say in this. Remember the ultra-competitiveness / insecurity he showed during his HOF speech? This reeks of it. Kobe will never be MJ, that’s obvious to everyone, but it shouldn’t need to come from MJ himself.

bill breedley

its awesome how the kids forget how jordan sucked in the utah and sonics series where a lot of times pip and the crew carried him. of course in the end of games, just like kobe, he did what was needed to squeeze out a win. just like lakers dvds, the mj dvds will not show the bad games but the highlights. so kids dont think mj never missed a shot or had a turnover. get real. fact is kobe is 1 away from catching mj and 2 away from surpassing him. hard for the mj worshippers to swallow. guess its the same way a lot of magic fans felt when mj was on his way to his second 3 peat.

The Philosopher

^^interesting^^

The Philosopher

my bad… interesting 9:01p.m. comment

bill breedley

people tend to forget MJ went 6-for-19 and 5-for-19 in 2 of Chicago’s Finals games against Seattle. Seattle?!?!? MJ never faced a finals opponent as tough as the Big 3 Celtics. his alltime finals stats were against the Suns in 1993. that team had MVP Barkley and 0 defenders.

beyjee

MJ will always be the greatest because he preceded Kobe, no one can top what has been done before.

but both are at par skill-wise, allbeit with different strengths, MJ was never as dynamic as Kobe, he relied more on his supreme leaping ability and an enourmous pair of hands early on in his career and later developed his crazy post and mid range game, he also went around screens a lot. Kobe was more dynamic on the ball, his dribbling is top class unlike Jordan, his mid range was already there early on unlike MJ, and his range on the jumpshot as well as his quick release is superior than MJ.

It can also also be noted that MJ didn’t come out of High School, he inherited a low level team coming out of North Carolina and pretty much had free reign. Kobe’s growth was far more dificult. I always wondered how a young HS ballhog like Jordan would survive on a team with a dominant Shaq in his prime and how a college Junior of Kobe’s quality, dynamic offensive skills and dribbling ability would fair on the 80′s Bulls roster. and for all the praise on Jordan not having a dominant player beside him like Kobe, Chicago won 55 plus games the year Jordan retired and Pippen almost won the MVP. so shaq and pippen may have much more impact on both players’ careers than they may want to admit.

Truth be told, if they battled one-on-one during their primes, it would be hard to pick a clear winner. both had supreme post games, both were killers. MJ was stronger physically, but Kobe is more skillful with the ball, with a longer range and quicker release.

Greatness, Jordan hands down, skill, hard to tell.

here’s how hard it is, if i were to pick between kobe and michael for my team on a single game, or for a single play, it will all depend on the match-ups.

C-Lo_The_Great

i am really amazed at some of the things being said here you all should look at that link that some1 posted how many rings kobe have? and mj?

ronnell

i am bias my favorite player all time is kobe i say it is fair to compare him to mj people do not have a problem comparing LeBron to mj and he has no rings. Something i want you guys to think about mj was 34 when he won his 5 ring kobe is 31. if kobe gets two more rings he will the best all time. He won as a skilled 21 year old and now as 31 savy veteran, do not give that shaq what is he doing now nothing but being trade bait. thank you very much.

nastierthanu

@afro. Who’s better in the game right now. Please don’t say lebron. Kobe been stood up by lebron at the last 2 proms. @Tmoney 14 yrs and kobe can’t identify a bad shot!!! Please just stop the hate. Everyone let’s not forget that there are 3 hall of fame caliber players starting on this boston team and the emotional and vocal leader on the squad was a defensive player of the year. Kobe didn’t select bad shot he was forced into bad shots. @bruce fryar “where are all the hof’ers? Tim duncan he’s not that good. Steve nash. Ooh he’s not that good. Dwayne wade yeah he’s not that good. Lebron james. Of he’s not that good. The big 3 on the celts. They sux. What r u talking about??? Anytime I see the statement “kobe will never be better than jordan. I know that’s hate. 24 still has good yrs left. If the lake show can keep phil and resign quality personnel the opportunity for ring 6 will be sitting in his lap. How can anyone say that he’ll never be better than mj. No-one can read the future. We don’t know what the next 5 yrs will bring. Say what u want but 24 is in the conversation

bill breedley

Mj player against a less athletic league where there were way too many white dudes. Kobe playing Craig ehlo and we wouldve probably seen him go 81 in the playoffs. Mj was lucky he played magic and bird on the downswing of their careers. He would have never beaten a younger and healthier Lakeshow or original big 3 team. Beating old lakers team, flawed blazers and defenseless suns didn’t impress me. He struggled against the jazz even which had way too many unathletic whitefolk.

bill breedley

Mj played against a less athletic league where there were way too many white dudes. Kobe playing Craig ehlo and we wouldve probably seen him go 81 in the playoffs. Mj was lucky he played magic and bird on the downswing of their careers. He would have never beaten a younger and healthier Lakeshow or original big 3 team. Beating old lakers team, flawed blazers and defenseless suns didn’t impress me. He struggled against the jazz even which had way too many unathletic whitefolk.

http://www.jpjp.com jpex

ppl hate on kobe for no reason.. records are meant to be broken kobe has won two straight without shack and stayed with his team through the time he had no team the ppl playing with him are still a very young ball club. jordan had a team to back him. kobe lead a team of young ball players plus ppl pay more attention to kobes personal life and not his performance on court kobe haters how his ass taste?

Balherett3

All this conversation says is what sepperates real good nba players from great ones. Lebron only lacks a killer instinct(and a few rings now) to be in the conversation. Aside from a few players near or at Lebrons’ tier(EX.D.Wade).Then u have the players that piss you off cause their ridicously talented but never put the work in(ex.Vince Carter)

Justin

Wow, a fair bit of revisionist history and other things forgotten altogether. First, MJ’s bad shooting in the Finals vs. Seattle in Game 6 could easily be attributed to that game being on Father’s Day. Jordan was in tears after the game, sprawled on the floor first of the court and then the locker room because of the significance of the day. Obviously he was not 100% there mentally and who could blame him? As for the Game 6 vs. the Jazz, he was the only option to score really and he was also 36 years old, had played the most minutes of his career, was against a very good defensive team, and Scottie Pippen was pretty much incapacitated with a back injury. Outside of Toni Kukoc, who was going to pick up the scoring slack? There is also WAY too much emphasis on number of rings when talking about someone’s greatness. Fisher now has as many rings as Magic. Is he in the conversation as far as great Lakers go? Is Robert Horry a better forward because he has more rings than Charles Barkley and Karl Malone? Of course not. We’re talking about overall, individual games here and the comparisons are not even close. With all of the accolades MJ has achieved, not to mention what he’s done on an international scale for the game and the comparisons should stop right there. And bill breedly, you obviously have no idea what you’re talking about either. Those “old Lakers” were the same ages as these Celtics. KG is youngish but his body isn’t because of how long he’s been playing. Flawed Blazers? What the hell does that mean? Defenseless Suns that only had the best record in the league. Are you saying you were more impressed by those Nets and 76ers teams the Lakers beat during their first 3peat? hahaha if you are.

monique

I understand the MJ’s son loves his father. That’s wonderful, but what’s wrong with fans making a comparison between Kobe and Michael. Some of you MJ fans act as if MJ was some type of basketball god that no one will EVER be able to touch. Records are meant to be broken and Kobe is the closet NBA player to even come close. I’ve learned that most of the Kobe haters are MJ fans that refuse to let go. Whether you like it or not Kobe is the best player right now…HANDS DOWN. Don’t be a hater. Give Kobe his due.

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