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Thursday, June 17th, 2010 at 8:41 pm  |  275 responses

NBA Finals: Game 7 Live Blog

The Lakers hold off their storied rivals, the Boston Celtics, to win it all.

by Nima Zarrabi / @NZbeFree

*We’re here. I had to weave in and out of some serious traffic on the I-10 freeway and then had to shift through the redic crowds that are posting up in LA Live and outside of Staples. Ottawa’s finest citizen, Marcel Mutoni, is to my right. We’re sitting up in section 323–basically the last row up top. Surprisingly, it’s a decent view. I’m just happy and thankful to be here.

*Pregame: We’re 15 minutes away and there are still tons of empty seats. Yes, LA fans can’t even be on time for the Finals. Celts just came out and received boos about as loud as you would hear in a HS gym. Nothing to report pregame from the Lakers lockeroom. Lamar was quietly getting ready and Sasha was walking around in his Peak sneakers, hair a bit messy for those scoring at home.

*Phil Jackson and Doc Rivers’ pre game pressers were pretty tame. Some nice banter between LA Times columnist T.J. Simers and Phil. Simers: “Is this your last pre-game press conference?” Doc, was funny when asked why he’s starting Sheed. “Because he’s old,” he says. “I figured I’d go with the old guy.”

*I arrived at Staples @ about 3pm. LA Live was crawling with cats trying to find a way to creep into Staples. Security is super tight and there are cops patrolling all over. I saw two cops watching the line that led into ESPN sportszone. The line was around the block. I made sure to park my car several blocks away in order to have a sound exit strategy. We will see if it works.

*Spoke with Arash Markazi pregame. He was looking very comfortable in the front row as he watched D Fish put down some jumpers. My eyes were focused on Shelden Williams, who was putting in some work in the post. It will be interesting to see if he gets much PT tonight. Doris Burke has decided that pink is her color tonight. Ran into Sekou Smith before the game also. Great guy. Marcel introduced me. Doesn’t sound like he’s too happy with Lang for missing this trip. I told Sekou that I was more than happy to fill in for him.

*Fans screamed thru most of Christina’s anthem. Paul Pierce just threw his dice so now it’s time for the Lakers to be announced and this place is warming up.

*In the pregame presser, Phil was asked if tonight’s outcome would have an impact on whether or not he will return next season. Phil said he won’t know that until he knows the outcome. Classic.

*Jake brings up an interesting point in the comments about the Lakers making changes this offseason. It will be interesting to see what type of moves they make.

*Artest continues to creep us out offensively but Fish saves him. This place is freaking loud. Maybe it’s because I’m on the top deck tho.

*The bank is open for Sheed. He’s aggressive early and that has to be a great sign for Boston.

*Nothing was going to keep Kobe from taking that jumper after Rondo fouled him.

*C’s looking tough early. Rondo loves the right handed layup from the left board.

*We’re off to a great start. C’s are contesting everything inside. 10-9 Boston with about 6 minutes left in the 1st. How long can Andrew hold up?

*Tough call on KG. Let them play, ref.

*Even from section 323, Jesus Shuttlesworth’s jumper is wet. Big Baby with the nice up and under layup. Celtics are looking so strong early on. Nothing easy for the Lake Show tonight.

*Kendrick Perkins is very vocal and active on the bench tonight. Kobe and Pierce having some words as ball comes down court.

*Big Baby Davis is doing it.

*Heck of a 1st quarter. Very impressed with how strong Boston came out. They lead the Lakes 23-14 at the end of the 1st. Former Lakers great Michael Cooper just came out and shot a three-pointer in some type of contest to win something. He missed.

*Crowd is a little stunned. Kobe is 1-7 for 3 points. Big Baby and Sheed are filling in nicely for Perkins, giving the C’s a great lift early.

*Unique lineup for the Lakes: Bynum, Farmar, Artest, Sasha and Lamar. C’s call a timeout to adjust. 23-19, Celtics. 10 minutes left in the 1st half.

*Great foul by Jordan Farmar. If Rondo is streaking for the hoop, use a foul and hack him at halfcourt.

*Ron Artest’s breakaway layup has set this place on fire. KG nearly takes out Jack diving for loose ball. He gave everyone the word as he walked away.

*The pace has gone crazy. Knotted up at 25. Six minutes left till half. Anytime there is a chance for a rebound, bodies collide all over. “Both teams played hard.”

*3 fouls on KG. Big Baby might have to close the half. The defensive intensity is insane. 31-29 Celtics with about 3 minutes left in the half.

*Thanks for stirring up the pot, Jukai. Always appreciated. Tons of bad dancers on Lakers dance cam during break.  Things getting testy at the end of the half and refs going to the whistle. 38-34 Boston with 43 seconds left till halftime.

*Scalabrine checks in. Appleman was right.

*40-34 Celtics at the half. My Attorney Richard A. Buffum just dropped this on me: “A 90s style NY Knicks game has broken out.”

*Props to all of you rolling with us tonight, especially cats like Alan who are overseas, watching this game at a wicked hour. Celtics are already back on the floor shooting shots with about 9 minutes left in the half.

*Stoked to see that Darksaber has joined our discussion. Now we’re officially ready for the 2nd half. No doubt, Ben. Thanks for the call. Feel very lucky to be here.

*Boston coming out the gate strong, adding to their cushion. KG puts C’s up 45-35 after that 3-point play. Fans are quiet as horrible music blares.

*Feel like the Lakes took a nap at the half. Celts up 51-43 after a bucket by D Fish. Fans back in it. 6 minutes left in 3rd. Pierce nails a huge 3 for celts that give them 54-45 lead. Have no idea where this game is headed but Boston should be feeling good. Kobe Bean Bryant is struggling.

*Lamar giving the Lakers a nice lift but is it enough? Not with Sheed banking everything in.

*Lakers closing in, but Rondo continues to be a problem. Fans don’t think Shannon Brown fouled him. Of course they don’t.

*One more quarter of NBA ball for the 2009-10 season. Celtics lead the Lakes, 57-53. Hoping for an incredible finish.

*They just played the song from the movie blade and followed that up with Enter Sandman. 90s Knicks indeed.

*Big And 1 by Pau. This place is erupting. 57-55 Boston.

*Great play by KG to stop Artest, but looked like a foul. Poor D by Pau leads to easy hoop by KG. 59-55 Celtics with exactly 9 minutes left in the game.

*Omid Farhang, one of the best creative people the ad world has to offer, has joined us in comment section for final 9 minutes. Lets get it.

*Fans still believe in Kobe. He really needed those three free throws. 59-58 Boston. Tough floater by Ray-Ray. 61-58 C’s. Nate Robinson back on the floor. Couldn’t finish at the cup.

*Artest with the And 1, all Lakers fans on the feet. Sheed just picked up his 5th going over the back of Pau. He stormed off after the call. Fans were hoping he would get closer.

*2 big throws by Ray Allen. Lakers have missed 10 FTs tonight. 64-64 with 6 minutes left after a huge 3 pointer by Fisher.

*The Rockets/Knicks scenes in the OJ 30for3o documentary last night looked like this game.

*Black Mamba. Finally. 3 ball. Lakers lead 68-64 with about 5 minutes left. Staples going crazy.

*Pierce with a huge jumper from FT line. 70-66 Lakers with 3 and a half left. (And thank you Alley for the editing help. I need it. Bad.)

*KG open again underneath. Big dunk. 71-68 LA. 3 minutes.

*3 out of 4 free throws by Pau puts the Lakers up 74-68. 2 minutes.  Paul Pierce at the line.

*76-70 after the huge bucket by Pau, a layup over a few defenders. 90 seconds left in the game. C’s need a bucket badly when they come out of this timeout.

*Sheed. 3. Get it. 76-73. Wow.

*WOW. WOW. 79-76 after Jesus hits 3.

*81-76 Lakers with 25 seconds left after 2 FTs by Kobe.

*Rondo kills all chances of the Lakers covering the spread with a 3. 81-79 LA with 13 seconds left.

*It’s on Sasha and he hits 2 FTs to put LA up 83-79. Boston timeout.

*Rondo misses a 3 and the Lakers win 83-79. What a series. I think both squads should trade out jerseys world cup style. Bravo.

*That’s a wrap from Staples. Lakers get their 16th title. Heading to the pressers. Hoping to grab some champagne. Good night and good luck.

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  • Jake

    First!

  • Jake

    Win or lose,the Lakers are gonna go through some major changes in the off-season I think.Could this be Bynum’s last game in a Laker uniform?Maybe playing through all this pain will stop everyone from wishing they had CB4.

  • Jake

    Bynum’s last game in LA?

  • Jake

    Bynum’s last game in LA?

  • namik

    Depends on the outcome really.

  • http://soundcloud.com/boy-sanchez Boy Sanchez

    It’s 4 am here… I really need to get some sleep… But I won’t…! Man, I love this game…

  • Whistler

    If Rasheed can keep the same level during 20 minutes Cs can win … and Rasheed might finally redeem himself from this horrible game ending in the Finals a few years ago where he left Robert Horry wide open for the winning 3

  • Whistler

    Big Baby has such an unconventional play, always amazing how he can get any baskets!

  • Whistler

    Kobe really forgetting that basketball is a 5-man game so far! kept shooting over double teams and missing widely!

  • lakerschizoprenic

    big baby looks like a retard

  • A l a n

    3:36 AM in Spain. Tired. It’s worth it. Let’s go Lakers!! but missing too many shots… just 22% in FG in firts quarter

  • http://sfdjklf.com Jukai

    Kobe 2-8. If that continues and he goes 5-30 but they still win… does Kobe get Finals MVP?
    I say yes, but I figured I’d stir up the pot a bit.

  • Whistler

    Lakers keep putting the ball for a 3 in either corner … if only they had Bruce Bowen out there!

  • djleroy

    Kobe is a busta. if the lakers win, can you say it was independent of refs? lakers “get” less fouls every damn game

  • Whistler

    Jukai, great point, it seems the Lakers play better without him!

  • lakerschizoprenic

    these refs suck. leprechauns are mauling the lakers right now and the refs are allowing it!

  • Whistler

    At last a great play by Kobe, putting Garnett out of the game until halftime!

  • Whistler

    If only Rondo could develop a jumper as Tony Parker did, he would become really unstoppable! The Lakers give him soo much space at the top of the key and he never tries a shot!

  • lakerschizoprenic

    i smell conspiracy. you call that a foul on fish?!?

  • http://sfdjklf.com Jukai

    Whistler: Lemme guess, yer a Spurs fan?

  • Whistler

    Joey Crawford wanna be the heroe of Game 7 =(
    But NBA… Where WTF? happens! Gasol + Kobe = 5/23 while Artest = 4/9!

  • Whistler

    HUGE SHOT by Rasheed! He is really great tonight! Good D on Gasol and huge moves down low, any aspiring big man should watch him to learn.

  • http://www.slamonline melvin ely

    Boston in 7. Unless the Lakers win it. Then it’s LA in 7. You heard it here first.

  • Whistler

    Jukai naah, not even, just reflecting on the Finals of the recent years :-)

  • Whistler

    Could Artest be the Finals MVP if he keeps playing like that tonight?

  • lakerschizoprenic

    joey crawford is on fire in this game!!!

  • Whistler

    Lamar Odom trying to crossover Brian Scalabrine is NOT your dream And1 Mixtape!

  • http://slamonline.com Ben Osborne

    Keep it going, Nima. Thanks for holding us down. Not Kobe’s finest half, huh?

  • backboard

    you want the difference between KB & MJ?

    There it is……..

  • http://www.dimemag.com Royal

    Damn…the lakers need to step it up!!!!

  • http://www.realcavsfans.com Anton

    Well I just signed a 3 year, $60 deal with SLAM so I’ll be mailing it in until the contract year. Got invited to go fishing with Rashard Lewis and Ben Gordon.

  • http://www.slamonline melvin ely

    Halftime! Boston shooting at a far better clip than the Lakers, but you can hardly expect this to continue. Add to that the fact that the C’s are getting demolished on the offensive boards plus the C’s are commiting more TOs…yeah, it’s going to be an interesting 3Q comin up. The Boston defence on Kobe is going to be key.

  • Whistler

    Rasheed is going to be the key!
    If he keeps playing like this the C’s cannot lose!

  • http://www.realcavsfans.com Anton

    If the Celtics win and Garnett doesn’t headbutt Jack Nickholson in the chest I’ll be thoroughly disappointed.

  • Irfan

    Not as exciting as we all expected :( .
    And what’s with the “whistler” thing? One comment of mine was “whistlered”.

  • imTUFFo

    Jukai, its about the OVERALL finals, if not the whole playoff drive. Kobe will get mvp if lakers win!

  • http://Www.ljhg.cn Darksaber

    Hello ladies and (mostly) gentlemen, what a 1st half, eh? Clamp down D with lots of ugly misses mixed in. Sheed is key so far, and it’s good to see him doing what he does best on offense, post up. Now the C’s better weather the upcoming KB onslaught. He’s gunning, can’t see him not trying to win this on his own now.

  • http://www.france.fr Whistler

    Hey Irfan, I am Whistler, and don’t know why your Joey Crawford comment was put in my name! Maybe it’s because it’s 4:30 AM in here!

  • http://Www.ljhg.cn Darksaber

    10am here, and got my Lakerfan buddies in Switzerland swearing at me via Skype. The pressure is building.

  • http://www.twitter.com/JoshElam JE

    ANYTHING IS POSSIBLLLLLLEEEE!!!!!!

  • T-Money

    marcus jordan on twitter: jordan’s son on twitter: NO ONE…And I mean NO ONE should EVER com par kobe Bryant to my dad an say that he is anywhere near close to my dad He’s jagging this game

  • T-Money

    jordan’s son on twitter: jordan’s son on twitter: NO ONE…And I mean NO ONE should EVER com par kobe Bryant to my dad an say that he is anywhere near close to my dad He’s jagging this game

  • http://www.france.fr Whistler

    Second half NOT starting well for the Lakers …

  • http://www.twitter.com/JoshElam JE

    Garnett just screamed “Yeah motherfu*ker!” after that and1.

  • AussieCrawler

    Largest lead of the night!! this is it ..C`s to WIN IT ALL !!!!! BOO YA

  • http://www.realcavsfans.com Anton

    Who did Doris Burke blow to get the finals gig? Whatever happened to that fine honey Lisa Salters? Or at least give us some Heather Kox. Mike Brown probably chose those substitutions.

  • lakerschizoprenic

    kobe lookin like luke walton out there! Help us ugh

  • http://Www.ljhg.cn Darksaber

    Not over yet, but i like how Rondo is controlling game flow. 2 assists to KG (nice D, Pau) and a floater.

  • http://www.twitter.com/JoshElam JE

    T-Money: what’s his username?

  • imTUFFo

    “com par”? “an”? Looks like baby jordan should’ve stayed n “scool”

  • Omid

    When a man acts like Kobe acted in the last press conference and says “Im not trippin”, that means he’s trippin harder than a dude at a Phish concert.

    Never seen a Laker team so scared to win. At some point Kobe will go into full-on mamba gangbanger mode. I just hope he doesn’t wait until it’s too late. Need to get this thing back down to 7 going into the 4th.

  • http://www.france.fr Whistler

    DarkSaber, it does look bleek for the Lakers! Will Kobe score a bunch of points in garbage time? Is he missing on purpose to stage a better comeback in the fourth?

  • http://www.dimemag.com Royal

    Kobe is playing awful right now

  • lakerschizoprenic

    lakers lookin like the clippers out there! kill me now

  • djleroy

    i’m not watching – can’t stand to. Praying to big baby jesus for the refs not to hand it to la.

  • A l a n

    Worst LA game of the season??

  • T-Money

    JE: SASBMJ

  • backboard

    can somebody knock this lil mofaf”"”er Rondo on his a$$? He gets one O- Rebound after another….

  • http://www.france.fr Whistler

    Rondo’s crossover dribbles are really useless if he does not buy himself a jumpshot …

  • T-Money

    Game is far from over. Obviously.

  • lakerschizoprenic

    step it up kob you flamin fa**ot!!

  • http://www.france.fr Whistler

    backboard, this is called “boxing out”. I’m surprised Lakers guards cannot box out Rajon Rondo … It’s not like the Lakers are rookies!

  • Saquon

    Here come the Lakers. This game will probably end in a Kobe buzzer beater to add to his legacy.

  • Zack

    Omg! It’s about time when I think the C’s are gonna win yeah!

  • backboard

    no, not boxing out. knock him down, lakers are soft….

  • djleroy

    I think if celts can win this quarter they can win this game

  • http://www.france.fr Whistler

    Artest. Mercurial.

  • Zack

    And I’m tired of Kobe thinking he all that

  • http://@OmidFarhang Omid

    Scalabrine looks like he won a contest out there.

  • lakerschizoprenic

    damn this game is gonna make me institutionalized again

  • http://www.france.fr Whistler

    Is this football? Offensive team subs in for Defensive Team?

  • http://sfdjklf.com Jukai

    Can we suit up Bird and Magic for this?!?

  • djleroy

    …well they lost quarter by 2. I hope celts have a good focused 4th quarter in them.

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    Make or break, Kobe.

  • http://Www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    @Omid: “tripping harder than a dude at a Phish concert”, very, very nice.

  • lakerschizoprenic

    Ron Artest can u have my babies (as long as lakers win bro)

  • backboard

    I want a Ron Artest Mixtape of butched plays, like overdribbling, running around like a headless chicken, stumbling turnovers with the appropriate music.

    Should be enough material there…….

  • http://www.france.fr Whistler

    Kobe couldnt find oil if he was in Louisiana right now.
    or
    Kobe couldnt find WMD if he worked with George Bush on Iraq right now.

  • http://www.france.fr Whistler

    It’s 5 AM here and I have to wake up in 90 minutes to go to work … PLEASE let there be no OverTime!!!

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    Interestingly, for how bad the Lakers’ stars are shooting, they are outrebounding the Celtics, and score-wise well within reach. Some late game heroics by the world’s most hated/loved athlete could change everything. Or, if Ron pulls some weird improbable stuff out of his hat, things could get uh, really weird.

  • lakerschizoprenic

    we need magic to give kobe a nice crunchy slap in the face!

  • alley

    “Nodded up at 25″ -> “Knotted up” you mean?
    Thanks for the liveblog, stuck at work over here

  • http://www.france.fr Whistler

    Artest is truly bewildering. Kinda like a Rafer Alston dribble, you never know what will happen. Or a Dennis Rodman haircut. Or a George Bush speech.

  • http://www.france.fr Whistler

    Ray Allen defends so well in this game. Is it because he saved all D from his years in Seattle for tonight?

  • lakerschizoprenic

    Fisher!!!!!!!!!!! oh i love you fish NO HOMO

  • http://slamonline.com Ben Osborne

    Derek Fisher!

  • http://www.dimemag.com Royal

    Big shot by Mr.Fisher!!!

  • T-Money

    Oh wow. this is tense. I have no idea who’s going to win this one.

  • http://Www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    Holy effing hell. Pressure cooker, boiling temperature!!!

  • MikeC.

    If Mr. Shuttlesworth could hit any-damn-thing, Celtics would be rolling right now.

  • http://www.france.fr Whistler

    Where is LBJ?

  • http://Www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    Ray is killing me here.

  • MikeC.

    I kinda doubt Ray is getting a raise next season.

  • http://www.france.fr Whistler

    Kobe cannot win alone. However he can lose it by himself.

  • MikeC.

    Is it possible to have a Finals with no MVP? Nobody has really stood out as a top performer.

  • http://www.france.fr Whistler

    Gasol. Most Valuable Spaniard.

  • MikeC.

    I hate Gasol. And I hate his bacne.

  • http://www.france.fr Irfan

    Pau redeems himself from ’08! =)
    GO LA! Finish it!
    These 12 lost free throws hurt but I hope they won’t cost the trophy!

  • http://www.france.fr Whistler

    Sheed for 3 Artest for 3 Allen for 3 … Kobe for 0

  • http://www.france.fr Whistler

    Who thought Rondo could shoot? NOT ME!

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    This is downright wacky haha. Rondo hitting a clutch 3? Vujacic hitting clutch free throws?

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    What this needs is a 4 point Nate Robinson play to send it this to OT.

  • T-Money

    LA deserved it. Boston was up 3-2 and couldn’t close the deal.

  • http://www.slamonline.com James_the_balla@hotmail.com

    hahahaha
    LAKERS BABY
    Anton!!
    meloman
    MVP
    Riggs
    and the rest of you… brons testicle lovers : D!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://www.dimemag.com Royal

    Good Game Celtics,y’all pushed my lakers to the brink!!!!! Is it too
    early to call for a three peat???

  • A l a n

    yeah!!

  • MikeC.

    If the Lakers weren’t a team full of massive douchebags, then maybe their post-Shaq championships would count. Too bad they don’t.

  • http://www.realcavsfans.com Anton

    suck a c*ck

  • http://slamonline.com mutoni

    WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

  • http://slamonline.com Paul

    Pretty sad that instead of celebrating your teams win you are gloating at people from the internet James and mentioning Lebron.

    Anyways congratulations Lakers, the game was finally entertaining in the 4th,

  • Jake

    F*ck the haters.Boston has nothing to gloat about now.

  • http://www.slamonline.com James_the_balla@hotmail.com

    Paul … : D
    Anton, how does Kobes a$$ taste you f()cking LOSER!!!

  • http://www.slamonline.com James_the_balla@hotmail.com

    YEAH BABY!!! LAKERS WHATTTTTTT!!!

  • T-Money

    james: i don’t think you can brag on kobe’s behalf right now, not tonight. he played an absolutely awful game. but history remember winners and a winner he is. congrats to lakers fans.

  • http://www.slamonline.com James_the_balla@hotmail.com

    Antonnnnnnnn lol.

  • http://www.realcavsfans.com Anton

    You’re screaming almost as loud as your wh0re mother last night

  • http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=100000580635564 Bryan

    He had a bad offensive game but his 15 boards and free throws in the 4th were huge T-money get real

  • MikeC.

    I missed the first half of the game due to the most inconvenient power outage of the year, but the second half was fantastic. Back and forth, up and down, great D and horrible O on both ends. It was an all-around good game. Too bad the Lakers organization is full of douchers, starting with dye-job Buss, all the way down to greasy Vujacic. 2010-2011, start it up ‘Beat LA Beat LA!!!’ Let’s get ready for Lebron’s Knicks knocking off Durant’s ZombieSonics!!!!

  • T-Money

    you know what? artest made me eat some effing crow this year. he didn’t flip out once, he came through big time in the playoffs, won a game for LA, was their best player in a game 7.

  • imTUFFo

    Does bill russell EVER shave??

  • Big Marv’

    Ron Artest has a singel comming out this summer nice. Like the way that he big ups his hood!

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    These “douchebags” outlasted the Celtics, who until their feel-good revival story of the past two months, were pretty reviled themselves. Homerism / “hating” aside, this was a hell of an end to a series. No losers here.

  • T-Money

    The thing about Kobe is that it doesn’t show when he absolutely sh-ts the bed because Lakers have other capable players. I’m just saying.

  • DC

    Pau Gasol should have gotton the finals MVP.

  • riggs

    congrats to the NBA refs for winning the game!

  • LD

    It should be called the LeBron James Finals MVP Award. Not Bill Russell.

  • http://www.slamonline.com James_the_balla@hotmail.com

    : D

    Hey Anton, I will leave you with a riddle lol…

    Whats the difference between Kobe and Lebron? Now make all your jokes … i will read them tomorrow with a huge smile on my face and a hard on. I would say a joke about your mother but its hard when you have two fathers!! Night Boooooy!

  • T-Money

    Bryan: you’re saying that because his team won the game. LeBron had 29 pts, NINETEEN rebounds and 10 assists against the Celts in game 6 but he got killed because he didn’t have a Pau or a Ron Ron coming through for him. I get it, superstars have to take the glory AND the blame but Kobe played an awful game. A spade is a spade.

  • T-Money

    In the same breath, Kobe did win the damn thing regardless of how he played tonight. History remembers champions and he is a champion.

  • http://www.euroleague.net/competition/all-decade/main-page/i/64902/4259/euroleague-all-decade-selection-theodoros-papaloukas?lang=en&itemid=64902&mid=4259&tabid=1143&itemname=EUROLEAGU PAPALOUKAS (click on my name)

    2 days ago, after game 5 i said that i expect the greatest big man in the world (for the last 3 years) to play great and help Lakers win. Thanks Pau Gasol for making me look smart!!
    If we hadn’t win Kobe whould have to apologize for this game his whole career(and his all-time status woul have been for ever lowered)…no wonder he just thanked Gasol, the only guy he mentioned in his trophy acceptance speach.I still don’t agree with his shoot selection especially in the first half….respect to Ron Artest….BIG respect to the Celtics and especially to Rasheed Wallace.
    @James_the_balla…: relax, people who have never played the game have difficulties to understand some things that seem so basic to many basketball players. Many here still have difficulties to figure out why you can’t really compare Kobe with Lebron…

  • http://www.dimemag.com Royal

    Well I’m wouldn’t go as far as what T-Money is claiming but L.A won this Championship as a TEAM. They were a better TEAM than the Celtics.Kobe had an awful offensive game (one of the worse I have seen from him) , his 15 rebounds were crucial.But despite Kobe’s offensive struggles his TEAM came through.

  • http://slamonline.com Ben Osborne

    Thanks to all the writers, readers, commenters, fans and followers who made SLAMonline.com and @slamonline so great all through the postseason and esp the Finals!

  • T-Money

    Serious question: is Pau Gasol now the best big man in the NBA?!

  • pharoah

    Yeah Kobe had a horrible offensive game but he hustled his ass off and grabbed 15 boards and made some HUGE free throws. Thats what great players do, find any way to win

  • T-Money

    Doc just said that Sheed might retire. Wow.

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    @Royal: Word. The better *team* indeed gutted it out and won. This may not have been pretty, but rarely is the 15th round of a heavyweight championship boxing match pretty either.

  • Someloser

    Lakers! Kobe! Artest! DAMN! QUEENSBRIDGE BABY!!!

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    on Kobe : after his game 6 of the 2008 finals we get this performance in his biggest game of his career, a game 7 against THE Celtics ,IN his home court FOR the title….he is the best since Jordan (and easily the best today) but whoever compareS him again to M.J should be banned from basketball forums.Honestly, even if he had a great game today and goes on and win 2 more, his all-time status is for ever below JORDAN/MAGIC/BIRD after what happened in 2008.

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    Congrats to LA for proving us all wrong, and to Kobe for inspiring the next generation of impressionable young ballers the world over to embrace fist-clenching jaw-jutting faux scowls as the go-to celebration of the 2010s. The new tongue-wag?

  • http://hoopmixtape.ning.com/ Simon S.Y Lawy

    YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In KOBE WE TRUST

  • pharoah

    Lebron didnt get blamed for game 6 as much as he did in the most important game, game 5. He was strugglin on offense and basically bailed on his team. Same scenerio today but Kobe came through and kept fighting and made key plays.

  • JohnnyCumL8lee

    QUEENSBRIDGE!! ARTEST comes through in the clutch, yeah boy! Suck on that b1tches!

  • JTaylor21

    T-Money is right on point. Remember that game seven shootout between pierece and bron when bron had 45 but his team still lost, last year against orl when he put hup 38,8,8 and still lost and this year when he had 29/19/10 and guess where i’m going with this LOST. Thats the difference between kobe and lebron, if lebron struggles his team gets waxed and even if he goes off he still loses but kobe was off the entire game and his team still wins. Dont forget that wade avg almost 35ppg vs the celtics and his team couldn’t get past 5 gms. Until lebron gets himself a gasol, odom, bynum, artest type players you cant say kobe better. Teams wins in the playoffs while individuals win in the regular season. capiche

  • http://www.springbored.net letsmotor

    Wow. First of all, i just have to say how proud I am of my Celtics. First, they beat a team a few people didn’t think we could. Then, they beat a team no one thought they could. Then, they beat another team few thought they could. Then, they pushed the Lakers to the brink. And all this after a mediocre regular season. Tough to be too disappointed if you’re a Celtics fan, especially given the great game they played, especially defensively. Secondly, congrats to the Lakers and their fans. Their D down the stretch was impressive. I’m especially impressed by and happy for Ron Artest, who did a good job of keeping himself under control this season, and it paid off in the end, so good for him (plus he’s a St. John’s boy like me!). Finally, it’s been great reading about these playoffs on this site, and great talking about these games with all of you, so thanks for that.

  • http://Www.lkz.ch Darksaber

    *meekly*, Congrats LA. Great show in the Finals, now go burn some police cars or sth. (damn, i’m pissed Mambiatch got another ring).

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    @T-money….: GASOL is the best big man in the world wen the games matter. This has been proven again and again the last 2 years (last years finals, Olympics, this years finals) you shouldn’t even ask it. Of course he is not the best for an NBA regular season(or fantasy leagues) ,i’ll take Howard or even Amare for this. At the same time Kobe ain’t have the legs to go for great numbers every game in the regular season but when it matters he is still the best. I’ll take Lebron for an NBA regular season. Now, if you ask for the value of the regular season go ask the CAVS and Rasheed Wallace….!!!

  • KulchaKris

    In the end, the better team won. Game 7 was much like the rest of the series, back and forth. As for the Celtics, if you’re up 13 in a game 7, you should win. The Lakers were the tougher team down the stretch, and wanted it more. A good end to a dramatic NBA season.

  • Lawrence

    now it’s time for the boston fans to cry…
    lmao.
    congratulations to the Los Angeles Lakers 2009-2010 nba champs!!!also to kobe bryant the finals MVP!!!

  • JohnnyCumL8lee

    RE: LBJ…I thought the Jamison trade was good but its freaking hard as hell to insert someone as versatile as Jamison in mid-season with an offensive stiff like Mike Brown calling the shots and expect Jamison to come through in the clutch when the entire offense runs through LBJ in the playoffs. You need an inside game in the playoffs and Cleveland wasn’t featuring that for shiz. Now, they are gonna blow up the roster in Cleveland after such a RECENT big trade and they really never gave the roster a shot to gel. Get rid of Shaq’s old azz and replace Big Z (fer god’s sake) and shore up the bench and they would have a shot next year. But it seems like LBJ is out so forgetaboutit.

  • The Philosopher

    Phil Jackson is the greatest coach in NBA History.

  • KulchaKris

    Oh, and to all those on this forum lining up to bash Kobe for his poor shooting: yes, he struggled offensively, but continued to play hard, and impact the game defensively. He outrebounded KG and Rashweed combined. Hate if you want, but the man is an all-time great.

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    QUOTE OF THE NIGHT(again R-E-S-P-E-C-T to the Celtics):

    ” There’s a lot of crying in that locker room,” Rivers said. ” A lot of people who care. I don’t think there was a dry eye. A lot of hugs, a lot of people feeling awful. That’s a good thing. Showed a lot of people cared.”

    QUOTE OF THE YEAR(ARTEST):
    I definitely want to thank my doctors … my psychiatrist, she really helped me relax a lot….

  • The Philosopher

    And, shout out @PAPALOUKAS, The Leader. Congratulations to The Lakers. Kobe is a legend’s legend.

  • http://www.kwapt.blogspot.com KobeWearsAPurpleThong

    Offensive boards killed us. You knew the Lakers wouldn’t shoot poorly all night. Fisher, Gasol and Artest are the real heroes. Rapist was just off tonight. Best defense I’ve ever seen two teams play. Congrats Celts on a great season-you were counted out but kept fighting ’til the final horn. Banner18 will have to wait one more year.

  • http://www.double-technical.blogspot.com Zee!

    And to all the haters on this site, may you feel salty all off season as you see Kobe collect more hardware. F”*ckers. Eat a d*ck.

  • http://www.realcavsfans.com Anton

    Parity: The principle of engineering an equal playing field in which all teams can compete, regardless of their economic circumstances.

  • http://www.slamonline.com doyouwantmore

    REALLY LMFAO @ the perfect picture of what the Lakers are all about. Sasha Vujacic gets their last buckets of the game, has a man-love touch-foreheads moment and embarasses Kobe, and then stands front and center for the trophy ceremony. Ron thanks his shrink and plugs his new single, too! And then Buss and Phil Jackson pander to their own fans. Half the people at the game probably didn’t even know what the hell was going on.

  • http://www.slamonline.com doyouwantmore

    And it’s all because Kobe slapped Perkins’ knee.

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    last thought: (8 in the morning here in Romania): Gasol is the finals MVP the same way Ginobili was the 2005 finals MVP. Of course the importance of giving it to Bryant and Duncan for the league’s marketing is so big that nobody who really loves the NBA will ever get pissed off. I bet that both MANU and GASOL understand (both smart guys).
    @Anton….: there is no “Parity” in this planet (hope you ain’t posting from Mars or a scientific lab).

  • http://www.laumol.nl/weblog Laumol

    That was one heck of a game.
    So what do you think this LeBron James guy is gonna go for?

  • damien

    It just proves that the Lakers have the best organization in basketball. 4 years ago kobe was pouting and ready to be traded to the bulls until jerry buss didnt respond to that request. Meanwhile they retool the team by aquiring Gasol and won a chip, didnt resign ariza and picked up artest, who was the difference in game 7 this year

  • unrel

    LAKERS BABY!!!!.. can we stop any debate now!?!?!?.. lighting up a cigar as we speak.. see ya’ll on draft day..

  • http://www.double-technical.blogspot.com Zee!

    Gasol and Artest don’t play well, Boston wins. shout out to players stepping up and not letting Kobe sink the team tonight….

  • Anthony

    LMAO at Ron Artest right now at the press conference, “Kobe passed me the ball … he never passed me the ball, and then I heard Phil Jackson the Zen master saying “dont shot the ball” but I was like whatever, so I shoot the ball and then boom! 3 points !” ahahah

  • Jackie Moon

    Eboy … wrong again. Sorry, had to do it. I don’t make predictions, I just remember them.

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    Honestly, I don’t think you can truly be sad if you’re the Celtics or their fans. Who thought they’d be here? They were written off by most of us toward the end of the regular season. With less than 10 games to go they were still talking about “taking it one game at a time” and figuring things out day to day. Who thought Tony Allen could emerge as a legit defender who could bother Wade, Bron and Kobe enough so that they could afford Ray Allen’s weaknesses? Compare Rondo’s performance in its entirety this year to last year’s and the year before’s – his weaknesses are apparent, but his strengths are really enviable. Truly – nobody thought they’d be here until they destroyed Lebron. Even in the buildup to the Finals, most anti-Laker/Kobe regulars were going “LA will win, simply because they are a bigger/better team”. Boston lost, but it was far from the foregone conclusion we thought it would be, and truly there is no shame in this defeat. Disappointment, sure – but no shame at all, only pride. What a run.

  • http://www.twitter.com/Th3_R3al_Chris Th3_R3al_Chris

    Houston Rockets fans must be ecstatic right now. These Lakers have taken their distinction of being the weakest back-to-back champions in NBA history after tonight.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/CathedralsRecords?feature=mhw4 Earl

    LAKERS WIN IT ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) : :) :) :)

  • http://nicekicks.com Meloman2.0

    The refs missed a call on Gasol… he did an “up-and-down”!!! and didnt get called for it… overall, the game was rough the whole game and in the 4th, the refs decided to tighten up the calls, which benefits the softer team (Lakers)…
    And if anyone deserves the MVP it shud be fisher, he won game 3 and had the biggest shot of the night tonite

  • http://www.twitter.com/Th3_R3al_Chris Th3_R3al_Chris

    LOL, and the Miami Heat fans must be happy too. They no longer have to worry about hearing how they were “handed” their championship in 2006 due to free-throw discrepancies after this 2010 Finals. Game 7: Lakers shoot 37 free-throws to Boston’s 17. Somewhere, Dwyane Wade is takin

  • T-Money

    Joel O: Eff that. They led 3-2 and they led by double digits midway through the third. They didn’t come through. To quote The Wire: “deserve ain’t got nothing to do with it”. Ray Allen in particular will not sleep tonight, the Celtics got tons of good looks for him.

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  • T-Money

    2 things I got out of this game from a non Lakers fan perspective: 1- LeBron needs to get the hell out of Cleveland. There is no way anybody on that Cleveland team could have coem through for him in a game of this magnitude. If he goes to NY then I’ll stop caring for him. Chicago or Miami is where it’s at (especially if Bosh comes too). 2- After tonight’s game, I will not entertain any conversation comparing Kobe to MJ anymore. End of.

  • niyasofresh

    Lakers won!!! Awsome, now on to the offseason so they can repeat, in your faces haters!!

  • http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:OzhW3M1GBSKkgM:http://fashionsensei.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/jackie-moon.jpg Jackie Moon

    MJ never beat the Celtics in the Finals.

  • http://joeloholic.wordpress.com Joel O’s

    @T-Money: Good point, though I don’t feel like the Celtics really choked. They definitely will be haunted by “coulda/woulda/shoulda” for a while though.

  • Jake

    To be fair,Kobe was getting hacked for most of the game(as were all of the other players) and the refs weren’t calling anything.He did miss some bunnies but just because he had a bad FG% for one game in the series doesn’t mean you can’t compare him to MJ.He’ll never be MJ but he’s a damn good impersonator.

  • http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:OzhW3M1GBSKkgM:http://fashionsensei.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/jackie-moon.jpg Jackie Moon

    Both teams being in the penalty in the 4th quarter definitely favored the Lakers, as the Celtics foul A LOT off the ball, and they continued to do so, seemingly unaware that any foul would reward the Lakers with free throws.

  • http://www.need4sheed.com Tarzan Cooper

    id like to thank my psychiatrist.

  • RV

    Real_chris what are you smoking? The rockets set all kinds of records in their two year run, especially the secnd year beating four 50 win teams, two of them 60 win i believe…weak my ass..

  • http://www.need4sheed.com Tarzan Cooper

    refs def favored lal, a few bs calls on sheed and davis, a couple of which were and1s. refs did indeed help lal, but despite that boston had a chance. when pau cut thru the lane, he flailed and yelled and got the calls. i gotta be happy for ron tho, he had an amazing game, played huge when bean played like ass.

  • http://www.need4sheed.com Tarzan Cooper

    refs def favored lal, a few bs calls on sheed and davis, a couple of which were and1s. refs did indeed help lal, but despite that boston had a chance. when pau cut thru the lane, he flailed and yelled and got the calls. i gotta be happy for ron tho, he had an amazing game, played huge when bean played like as.

  • T-Money

    Wow Kobe went IN on Shaq in the press conference. I ain’t mad, you know Shaq secretely still hates his gut.

  • Jake

    Ron Artest gives the best press conferences ever,hands down!

  • BobDigi

    I’m not a fan of the Lakers of Celtics, but I couldn’t believe the amount of calls that were handed to LA tonight. This isn’t what basketball is supposed to be. This is honestly one of the worst NBA finals games I’ve ever seen.

    What’s even more frustrating to me is the fact that I have yet to come across an article that actually calls out the poor job that the referees did tonight. This game is probably just going to be considered one of the great game 7′s (it wasn’t) and it’s only ever going to be looked at in a positive light. It makes me a bit sick.

  • LD

    @Jackie Moon- Jordan is 0-3 in career playoff games against the Celtics.

  • http://slamonline.com tina

    I think it’s funny how Kobe has 1 off shooting night (1 bad game) & he’s so undeserving of the mvp. He had 15 rebounds, he was willing his way through the games even though his shots were crap. He’s played well most of these playoffs. Stop comparing him to MJ. He might not ever be in that level but how many players are? Just enjoy the now. Congrats to both teams for an exciting series.
    p.s.
    so glad the lakers won, Ron Artest had some of the best quotes of the night. Scratch that, best quotes ever!!!

  • http://www.need4sheed.com Tarzan Cooper

    I wonder what kwame brown and javaris crittenton are doing. I wonder how much money jerry west and co gave chris wallace for his ‘birthday’.

  • Exiled Zebra

    My MAN JOEY C! Way to get the right team the win! Did you see how he let them play tough physical ball the first three quarters then at the start of the fourth BAM! Multiple weak calls against the wrong team to get them in the penalty? Nocall and ones for wrong team, make believe and ones for right team, SUBTLE! Joey did it throughout the game so he woulnt have to make one at the end, subtle. That is why stern has him do all the important games.

  • http://www.motherjones.com AndTheJellosJigglin

    Incredible Game. Sensational Series. Props to the Celtics for a good season. I Love This Game!

  • http://www.motherjones.com AndTheJellosJigglin

    Oh yea and phenomenal season by the Los Angeles Lakers!!! Wow, just wow. A little bit of something in game 7 from everyone-knew Kob couldnt get it on his own. LAKESHOW! LAKESHOW! HERE WE GO LAKERS, HERE WE GO!!

  • niyasofresh

    Right MJ never beat the Celtics in the finals and he’s had off shooting nights. Didn’t see anyone reluctant to compare LeBron to MJ hell ESPN even start asking has he surpassed him and people were willingly jumping on the train and he hasn’t one shit. The man (Kobe) played exceptionally well throughout the entire playoffs and he WASN’T 100% healthy at that, he has to consider surgery on his knee in the off season and his shooting fingers. Any other player would’ve called it a season or performed even less. As I can remember he was scoring 40 in consecutive games in the beginning of the season prior to him obtaining another injury, so let’s not overdo it. I’m sure if he was 100% he’d be even more spectacular. Really it’s been 14 seasons for the guy going on 15 and he still recieves hate or backhanded compliments from the media, fans and commentators it’s time for that to cease and give the guy his props, envying him because they hate to see him succeed because they don’t like him personally won’t do them any good, what benefits are they getting from it? A feel good moment for a few seconds? Lol! He’s 31 and still performing at a high level not many can say that at this point in their careers especially those with a lot more mileage on their legs like him, K.G., T-Mac etc. The hating or personal disstain for him isn’t going to diminish his accomplishments individually or collectively with his team and organization get over it people, stop it. And the man deserved the MVP overall because he’s been consistent execept for this one game. One game doesn’t take away from anything. Again 5 time champ congrats to the Lakers!

  • AussieCrawler

    Thats it..F**k basketball for 5 months now. When i get back the refs had better be revitalised. LA won but David Stern had something to do with it.. Are Jack Nicholson and Kobe Bryant still engaged?? Baaaa…. Lakers suck!!! See ya bitches

  • http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:Xai88DrYsAhqiM:http://a.espncdn.com/media/apphoto/b8ad869b-bb74-4ba0-89b5-857787be7ba6.jpg Jackie Moon

    Kobe Bryant now joins Shaq, MJ, and Hakeem as the only players to ever win consecutive Finals MVP awards

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    The Celtics shut down Wade, Lebron, and Howard, but the guy they couldn’t stop over a best-of-7 series was Kobe Bryant.

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    @Jackie….:ranking those four i go with M.J then HAKEEM then KOBE and SHAQ last. No, the problem was not Kobe, the supporting cast for Lakers is way superior than that of the other three ones. Kobe is playing with the best big man in the world (just like 2000-2002 though pau is not at SHAQ’s level in terms of NBA dominance, not skill…) which would have been the best argument for all the Kobe haters if they weren’t ashamed to admit it (i don’t see no reason to be ashamed ,Hakeem was also from another country, it’s not the first time that the best big man is not American ). Don’t be cruel with Eboy, please, if he some other kids (jukai/tavoris,TADone,hursty,hisham,etc) leave us, the forum loses all the unintentional comedy elements that are a big part of it’s charm.

  • frank

    finals mvp=artest

  • truthteller

    To all the Kobe and laker haters out there: Keep hating!

  • truthteller

    @frank: Game 7 MVP was Artest. Finals MVP was still Kobe. Don’t start with that now.

  • vongustedt

    Kobe has 1 off shooting game? he shot 405% for the series… no one really deserved the award kobe nearly shot the lakers out the game…

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    i’ve seen already the Artest interview’s at least 3 times each, the guy is a true comedian, i bet it’s intentional comedy, the guy is a pro entartainer. He becomes officially one of my top-10 favorite bball players in the world !!
    Did i mentioned how terrible was my favorite one tonight..???

  • larrylegend

    forget the nab finals, casey jacobsen, german bbal league champ 2010!!! FREAK CITY!!!

  • BostonBaller

    I’ll be back to read the TWO HUNDRED comments above but I had to get on to say Congrats to The LA Lakers for getting it done..Congrats to my Green team for a hard fought battle. No one on here should be complaining about anything, no one should be too down or overly bitter today about our loss and no one should be obnoxious or overly cocky about the win either. This was truly one of those games where you say it could have gone either way if you’re on the losing end and the better team won if you are on the winning side. Gasol was my pick for Finals MVP but we knew Kobe was gonna get it in a LA win. I’ll be back to have fun latter. Thanks again SLAM.

  • BostonBaller

    TWO HUNDRED plus comments already! WOW! I have to run but I’ll read every single word later. CONGRATS to The LA LAKERS…hard fought battle and no head hanging or excuses from this end. Both teams battled and the result was a classic.

  • rikson

    LA was able to get back into the game once kobe stopped shooting those ridiculously bad shots! Whoooo, those were some terrible shots!!! Combine that with the no-trust kobe had for his team and you get a Cs lead. Once Pau made some shots kobe understood that he is NOT the man tonight and the game switched… BTW Pau was the Game 7 MVP -> his rebounds kept LA in the game despite their poor shooting the first half!

  • http://www.slamonline.com Nima Zarrabi

    Big up to all that rolled with us tonight. Some great posts in the comment section. Plenty of laughs and insight. Funniest thing I saw all night was Rasheed leaving the Staples Center tunnel in full uniform (sweatshirt over jersey but shorts still visible and same sneaks still on). He had shades on but looked very hurt. Celtics say he could have played his last game. I hope he decides to play next year. He put in a heck of an effort tonight.

  • cp3fan

    The Kobe hate is going to be crazy today lol. And he loves it. I love the quote about Shaq. How does that taste Mr. O’Neal? haha. No more of this “he wouldn’t have won without Shaq” mess because newsflash…Shaq wouldn’t have won without him either.

  • http://www.springbored.net letsmotor

    one other thing I have to say about this series. i know when people think of my boy Ray Allen in this series, they’re going to think of his shooting struggles, but let’s not forget that he played stellar defense on Kobe. i know it may go unnoticed because Ray’s not known as a defensive stopper and people are going to figure that it’s mostly team D that’s slowing Kobe down. that’s all true, Ray did a great job of keeping Kobe in front of him, and he’s a big reason Kobe shot around 40% this series, so don’t be so quick to say that he played a poor series.

  • JP

    Kobe 5 time NBA Champs and still a lot of haters around here, don’t you think he deserves a little more respect now ???

  • jumpman3224

    Congrats to all of LakerNation. I don’t know about you, but this win was so rewarding for me as a lifelong fan for a couple of reasons: 1)Redemption against Boston for 08, which ripped my heart out (not literally, but damn near) and 2)All of the hate, doubt and naysaying that I listened to and read all year. We heard so many reasons why the Lakers couldn’t win (Lost to Cavs in regular season, Kobe hurt/old, Ron Artest, Not tough enough etc. etc.). This has played out like the ultimate 3 act play with LA/Kobe as the hero. I know Mamba had a bad shooting game, but sometime greatness is being able to overcome having something taken away. Superman occasionally has to save the world without the Yellow Sun. Kobe had a nightmare shooting night, but was able to put his finger prints all over the game by being a dominant perimeter rebounder and D’ing up. His D against Rondo and Allen this series was amazing and validated his All-D season. Also, thank you for putting in the work to get tougher/better Pau Gasol. Looks like after everything the Artest signing was the right move after all. He outplayed Pierce in Game 7 with the series on the line. That was a great team win, which makes it so much sweeter. Go Lakers!

  • jumpman3224

    @Jackie Moon: good stat! that is an elite group. i think at this point Kobe has surpassed Shaq in terms of career and overall ranking. I would love to see where Slam would put him all time now (he was #12 before winning back to back titles and finals MVPs).

  • jumpman3224

    @BostonBaller: Way to be classy, even in defeat. That’s a true sign of a fan and a class act guy.

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    great series.

  • Bruno

    hi eboy!!!
    or should I just call him nostradamus cause he was on fire with his playoffs predictions like the 3 time finals loser cause he was right … right?

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    hats off to artest for being in control for the whole year. same with davis for continually amazing us every year. Sheed had a great game 7, but even that one game can’t change all the dumb things he’s done like shoot 3′s 13 times out of 10, sasha and farmar are still douches and numbskulls. Respect for bynum, fighting through injuries. I think ray allen is gone with celts, and lastly better team wins.

  • jumpman3224

    @Bruno: he also said that the Lakers couldn’t take a punch and the mouth (after game 5) and come back. Maybe now we can get a season without haters doubting the Lakers at every step, probably not though.

  • Bruno

    and one thing no one can argue is ron artest wanted his ring badly!!!

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    Though short of a title, can we all agree now that boston is the surprise team of the season.?

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    @all….:if Eboy and his “bball insight” somehow disapears are you gonna feel better..?? You’ve never been 16 years old or you were born with bball understanding…??? Please ,give the kid a break…

  • Bruno

    hey if the team you root for wins you can say whatever you want man that’s a law in sports hahaha

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    and before i forget, thanks and CONGRATS TO SLAM for another year of GREAT bball season,. another season of great posts, articles, kicks, vids, DEBATES!, ARGUMENTS!, and anything basketball!!! not that were also closing out but you know just appreciating… so when are we gonna start the TOP 50..?

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Sad for the Celtics, happy for Artest.
    Wish Doc would have kept going to Sheed and KG on the block instead of isolating Pierce against Artest.
    Oh well, the Lakers did what they had to do.

  • jumpman3224

    @Pap: he constantly criticizes commenters who don’t share his views for being too young to know anything about the game…if he is really 16 I would be shocked. That would mean when Eboy got drafted Slam’s Eboy was 4 years old.

  • http://slamonline.com AlbertBarr

    Wow. That was some epic basketball…and I thought this was supposed to be a boring playoffs? Nicely done Lakers…won as a team…nicely done Celtics, you were right there.

  • http://www.motherjones.com AndTheJellosJigglin

    Good Call BostonBaller-I thought it was gonna be MVPG for Pau Gasol as well. Next Year. Incredibly hard fought, intense game.

  • http://slamonline.com AlbertBarr

    Ron Artest was the MVQueensbridge. I seriously thought he was going to shoot the Lakers out of the game…congrats to his shrink…I am sure this bodes well for their business.

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    @jumpman3224…: don’t be surprised, it is a typical “defence mechanism” (as uncle sigmund would have said),in psychology is called “projection”…

  • BostonBaller

    If MY Celtics had won (I really wanted it) I wouldn’t be able to say the best team won b/c how do you say either team was clearly better during this series? WOW, they both laid it on the line and the team that hit the shots won it..both defenses were intense and when you have Kobe you always have a slight edge. In 08′ I said Gasol wasn’t soft just finest, he isn’t a tough player now just better. Big ups to him & Mr. QueensBridge’s doctor. lol Ron is Ron & he’s still at the club pushing his single. hahaha. KG was wiped out from playing so many minutes and Sheed cramped b/c his old body isn’t used to the minutes but I’m proud of them and even though PDouble & Ray didn’t shoot well overall, their D on kobe was pretty good all series. ( co-sign letsmotor Posted: Jun.18 at 9:19 am
    I truly believe DFish & Ray both had so so series b/c both were thinking about their kids..two of the classiest guys in the L almost came to blows and it wasn’t just b/c they were playing hard…Stories within the stories…
    @jumpman3224 Thank you, i appreciate the compliment and thanks for being a classy winner..that’s often times harder. lol.

  • jumpman3224

    @Papaloukas: Good point!

  • http://slamonline.com AlbertBarr

    After watching the game and looking at the boxscore, I would say the biggest factor in Lakers win was offensive rebounding. They had a 23-8 edge…it helped them survive 32.5% shooting from the field and 20% from 3range (they also only made 67% of free throws). The C’s had better % but they took 10 less shots and 20 less free throws. Not having Perk hurt the C’s alot…still, it was a tough as nails game…they called it pretty loose in the first half, tight in the 3rd and it kinda went all over the place down the stretch…awesome game.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Papa
    You do the exact same thing as Eboy.
    So, what conclusions should we draw?

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    @Allenp…:whatever you abilities allows you to draw,i got no problem at all !!!(i can’t help you on this…)

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    @allenp….:i wanted to add for fun “i do the same all the time!!!” in the end of the 11:23 comment but i didn’t want to confuse jumpman (i don’t know him like i know the rest of you)…anyway, same result. i just hoped Eboy would give tihs response instead of you, he is much “brightest/cultivated” than you and his responses are always comic !!! He and the ‘jukai/tavoris’ poster are my favorites !!!

  • The Philosopher

    If Rondo played like he did in Game 2 (even though he showed glimpses)…

  • truthteller

    Everybody keeps saying that Kobe had a bad game. he had 22 points and 15 rebounds!!!

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    l.a. was the better team at this series. not clearly or in dominant fashion, maybe by a hair.. as we all say we could do this again and have a different result, but cmon this is why we do this, right? who wins within this 7 games, 4-0, 4-3 or so, will determine the champ, the better team in THAT 7 game series! whether 1 game elimination or best of 7, bottomeline the better, or sometimes luckier, (but no champs were lucky..) in that particular time frame, wins. Either way if boston won, that means they’re the better,

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    @the philosopher….:If Rondo…..THEN kobe would not have played like this (and this means most propably better cause it’s difficult to play much worse). That’s how “IF” construcitons usually go….

  • BostonBaller

    @J ” Yes you can say we were the surprise of the L to everyone except a few of us dillusional fans here in Beantown. lol. I also co-sign your sentiments to SLAM et al..but that top 50 thing can wait, we need to recover. M Wilburn made a very valid point last night on how we tend to only view “today” and the players we currently watch and discount the ultra greats of yesteryear…something to think about. He has Kobe in the top 20 and not 10. But that another debate for another day..I love some Kobe but not when he helps beat us. @AndTheJellosJigglin Posted:Jun 18 at 11:12 am : We understand why Kobe got the MVP and no ones made at that but I’d love to see more guys get it that also deserve it (Maxwell over Bird was deserved but a shock) LA are kings again this year so I hope the stay intact and I hope we do the same and go at it again..we can’t let LA creep closer to our 17. lol.

  • The Philosopher

    @The Leader (PAPALOUKAS) Understood, but you know…

  • The Philosopher

    I’m happy for The Lakers, but at the same time I feel a little pity for The Celtics. They showed tremendous heart AND guile. They also really looked they’re age last night.

  • BostonBaller

    @jumpman3224 Posted: Jun.18 at 10:14 am : You will get a season w/out ppl doubting the lakers but not never a season where ppl don’t hate them much like we have here in Boston, there is always going to be mass hate b/c you guys win. I get it all the time and from new fans of the game to boot. lol. That’s what makes it so much fun to be a Lakers, Celtics, cowboys or Yankees fan. time to go pack for a long vacation but I’ll take SLAM with me…I haven’t even open the pages to the last 3 SLAMs so I can read them on them when relaxing on the trip. Plus I can’t read about an opponent or my own team during a series..I’m weird like that.

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    @THe philosopher….: PAPALOUKAS was ‘the leader’ as you call him, until he came back to the team of his hurt (olympiakos). Sadly he is past his prime…i will move to another name (i’m thinking about “Fotsis” again, it’s been a long time…)

  • BostonBaller

    @The Philosopher, you’ve been great and I see your point about the age. KG was completely winded and Sheed started catching cramps but part of it was that they had to play extended minutes w/out the rest they would have gotten with Perk in there. Going to a commercial they showed about 10 seconds of KG walking slowly to the bench breathing through his mouth and clearly spent. KG is 1 OG that is indeed a Warrior. Kobe says he was gassed too so if he was tired then you know there was some intense & draining play going on. GREAT GAME & GREAT SEASON…I’m really gone this time…the boss is probably on the sight checking on me. lol

  • http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:OzhW3M1GBSKkgM:http://fashionsensei.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/jackie-moon.jpg Jackie Moon

    @Bostonballer Don’t ever let anyone tell you that Home Court advantage doesn’t matter … I don’t even want to think about what would’ve happened if Boston had HCA. @pap eboy’s got to be able to take it if he’s going to dish it. He also rubs the wrong way with the manner in which he makes his predictions. Like I said, I almost never make predictions, because, well, you never know.

  • The Philosopher

    BostonBaller: Thanks a lot, for I really appreciate that. You have been great as well with your class AND dignity, and your keen knowledge of the game. The next time I’m in Boston, I will look you up. Don’t work too hard, and good day, brethren.

  • Dru Ha

    Remarkable game.

    Remarkable free throw discrepancy.

    Stern had to get Kobe another ring. It was important for the league.

    Had the calls been even the Celtics would have won the game going away.

    NDA= national donnaghy association.

    FAIL.

  • The Philosopher

    @PAPALOUKAS, The Leader: The reason I still call you The Leader is because you exude leadership qualities, from what I’ve seen, on AND off of the court. You are learned, worldly, and insightful. You are considered by many a national hero, such as a Nick Galis. You are of a rare breed.

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    @jackie….:the only prediction i mad ewas that Gasol,being the best big in the world, will bounce back in the 2 la games and that i think that this will propably be enough. After what KOBE did i admit that we were lucky in the later…

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    @philosopher…:i wonder what you’ll call me as Fotsis…(batman is his official nickname )

  • The Philosopher

    I had ALSO stated how Pau Gasol is one of the best players in the world, but…

  • The Philosopher

    @PAPALOUKAS, The Leader: Maybe I’ll try to petition for SLAM and it’s commenters to come up with a new nickcame that fits your liking. How about “The Teacher”?

  • Gábor

    Ron Artest, Ron Artest, Ron Artest Ron Artest, Ron Artest, Ron Artest Ron Artest, Ron Artest, Ron Artest

  • http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:OzhW3M1GBSKkgM:http://fashionsensei.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/jackie-moon.jpg Jackie Moon

    @Dru ha – if the Celtics didn’t want to have so many fouls called them, there is a simple and effective solution … stop fouling so much, and fewer foul calls will be made on you.

  • http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:OzhW3M1GBSKkgM:http://fashionsensei.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/jackie-moon.jpg Jackie Moon

    For all those who want to make a point that “Kobe could not have won without Pau” … relax, Kobe said it himself about a million times post game. I just MJ would have had the humility to thank Scottie Pippen so graciously, and Shaq to Kobe.

  • http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:OzhW3M1GBSKkgM:http://fashionsensei.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/jackie-moon.jpg Jackie Moon

    * I just MJ would have had the humility to thank Scottie Pippen so graciously, and Shaq to Kobe.

  • jumpman3224

    Fact: When LBJ wins a regular season MVP, Kobe Bryant wins a championship and a Finals MVP 100% of the time.

  • topo

    i love that quote about all the beantown players crying and hugging each other! i thought they were the toughest guys in the league .. it kind of sucks for them,this is probably bostons last really intense run in the playoffs , i dont really see those geezers being able to get through all those teams again next year. i foresee a old school lakers finals with the lakers pounding whoever makes it out of the east.

  • BostonBaller

    The C’s are tough and after a series/game like that almost every player on both teams were tearing up. lol. Gasol & DFish got caught on cam crying. Like Doc said, it shows how much they cared. I like the geezers comment, I think they have been hearing that one for a couple of years now and sooner or later if you keep saying it you will be right. lol. Then again some smart fans were calling Kobe old too. Go figure. @The Philosopher no more work, it’s 3 weeks of vacation starting in 10 minutes. YES!!!

  • Sergio

    For those of you that say that kobe had a bad game, or that he couldn’t win without gasol, or fish; We are Laker Fans. We don’t care if it’s kobe, artes, or fish who wins the game. We care that the Lakers won. We care that the Lakers beat the Celtics. Period.

  • The Philosopher

    @BostonBaller: Safe trip, bretrhen!! Safe trip!!

  • Exiled Zebra

    Joey c did a masterful job helping the right team with no obvious calls down the stretch. Way to tow the company line

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    GO USA!!! GO USA!!!! After an epic come back that was cut short by a ref mistake we managed to get the draw against Slovenia and to hold our luck in our hands with a win against Algeria in the last game. At the same time the hated nazis lost from Serbia while the always foolishly arrogant brits (the other extremely& perenially overrated world power in football along with the nazis) managed a new draw against Algeria LOL!!!! GO USA!!!GO USA!!!!

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    SUCH A PERFECT DAY !!!! After LAKERS winning and CELTICS losing,…after Artest giving a performance for the ages (especially after the game) and Gasol making me look like a prophet,…after Kobe getting to 5 (enough on this)and after the U.S. made a great comeback and the most overatted football nations in the world being humilated,after all this, JUST when you thought that it doesn’t get any better,…AT THIS EXACT MOMENT Associated Press goes on and gives us this (unintentional) comic statement of epic proportions from Anna’s personal manager: “Allen wants to come and help a team win a championship, which he’s completely capable of doing,” Gary Moore said. Come on SLAM, give us the story, make our day, one more year of the true KING and we are spending our time on loosy topics like kobe and NBA champions. Let’s get back to serious topics again, let’s talk shoe (and magazine) sales, let’s talk about ‘ANNA’ !!!!

  • http://www.slamonline.com Pardeep

    Kobe= The Best.

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    my bad, he is already here, i’m going to honor him, thanks SLAM!!!!

  • The Philosopher

    @PAPALOUKAS, The Leader: I feel the same way you do about Allen Iverson. He wrecked the game in my opinion, in a lot of ways. Especially in America. He’s got kids thinking they don’t have to practice to hone their craft.

  • Quis

    To the Haters,

    Michael Jordan could not guard Magic. Scottie had to against Lakers in ’91. When Michael had bad/weak moments in the Finals, Scottie always “covered” for him, like Pau and Artest did last night for Kobe. Kobe is 6’6 and wrestled with Carmelo Anthony, who is much stronger and plays forward, en route to last year’s championship.

    Kobe was clearly nervous and tense. The only person who wouldn’t be is Jordan.

    But know this haters, Kobe is breathing on MJ’s neck. Jordan too has been human:

    1. John Paxson saved Michael’s bacon against the Lakers in ’91 with several clutch threes (go back and watch the tapes) — a la` Derek Fisher and Artest for Kobe.

    2. John Paxson (like Fisher) won the game on a three in ’93 against Phoenix.

    3. Jordan shot 5-19 and 6-19 against Seattle when guarded by 6’3 Gary Payton. GP had defensive skills, but Jordan should have used him.

    4. Against Utah, at a stage in his career similar to Kobe’s, Michael shot 15-35 TWICE. 15-35 … that is a LOT of shots!

    5. I give Michael a superior mid-range game, and larger hands, which would have helped him against Boston’s swarming defense last night. A 31, 32 year-old Jordan, with similar mileage as Kobe probably goes 9-24 last night, to Kobe’s 6-24. Not a huge difference.

    6. People who say Kobe is not close, not even top 10 are being foolish, and are obviously pissed about something.

    7. I would have loved to see if MJ had to share the ball with a dominant center. He probably would have only last through 2 rings before wreaking havoc with his massive ego.

    8. MJ is the greediest player ever; he averaged 7-8 more shots per game than Kobe in the postseason, and yet NO ONE admits this in the media. Kobe does just as much, with less. If you think I’m lyin’ check out the Phoenix series in ’93 where even Barkley jokingly commented about Jordan’s arm being tired after hoisting some 41 shots.

    Kobe is in MJ’s neighborhood, and has already passed Magic, Bird, and West, who couldn’t play defense (Kobe and Fish held Allen to 3-14 last night) and lack the will that MJ or Kobe possess.

    Keep on hatin.’

  • SMH

    3 words.. “Gasol’s left foot”

  • Jake

    I can’t believe this thread is still going….

  • http://nba.com S.Man

    Hey Quis, you know those soft hand-checking fouls nowadays? Yeah, Jordan would capitalize on every. single. one.

  • Exiled Zebra

    Good point by s man. Those were put in so that nobody could touch or sneeze on kobe

  • bill breedley

    MJ is great but let’s all stop trippin. Kobe just might top him in 2 or 3 years. They are virtually the same player. Both have crazy game, killer instinct, huge egos and ultra clutch. Mj had more hops than Kobe and had David sterns love. Kobe is more creative.

    Funny how the Jordan lovers diss the teams Jordan had to justify how much better he is but when people compare greatest teams these same little kids say the 2 bulls teams were stacked in every position.

  • http://Www.slamonline.com Negetivekreep

    Kobe had his worst game in these playoffs. (game 2 wasn’t that great either) Everyone expected more From him. Yet he outscored and Out rebounded Every player on the Celtics roster. The same guys that are killing Kobe for his poor play have seemingly overlooked gasols worst performance wich happened in a historically pivotal game 5. Had he played just a lil better along with perhaps 1 other laker, all of the sudden it’s Lakers in six behind an epic game from Kobe. But that’s why this is a team sport, and Gasol and Artest get to feel what it’s like to be the Heros. And no complaints from Kobe, on the contrary he has never been more honest and at the same time gracious & praisworthy of his teamates than he was last night. I challenge anyone to argue that. For those who suggest that any of this somehow hurt his legacy despite the fact that they won. I pose this question: Will u judge LeBron by that same logic? He did have a far worse game when his team needed him the most, in these same playoffs, vs these same Celtics…Myself I don’t buy it. Paul Pierce said if they didn’t win this chip he Wouldn’t b mentioned in the same manner as other Celtic greats. I don’t buy that either. He’s Had a great career and IMO he’s up there right below Larry Bird and Bill Russell, that’s nothing to be ashamed of. Ray Allen on the other hand is the only guy whom I feel has hurt his legacy, by being extremely inconsistant in the playoffs. Bill Simmons has him jumping over Reggie Miller on the all-time list, rediculous, even for a gigantic Homer like Bill. Rays game is 90% screen n’ roll open jumpers so to be considered a future hall of famer based on such a limited game u better do that one thing very damn well. You can’t say enough good things about Doc Rivers who after it’s all said n’ done is the real coach of the year. But I’ll say one bad thing, calling Fisher a “flopper” was below him, lacked class and showed desperation. In other words things Phil usually does. Lol. So I forgive him, but seriously say what u want about Fish, but he quietly won the battle verses Ray Allen playing relentless defense and still hitting BIG shots when it counts the most, the guy has ice in his viens, as classy and stand up a’ guy as thier has ever been in this leauge.

  • http://Www.slamonline.com Negetivekreep

    Shout out to Quis, everything u said made too much sense to ever be published in a commercial mag, I love this website.

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    Since Michael, superstars are judged by not only how many championships they win, but with whom they win them. One of the greatest arguments for Michael’s supremacy is that, outside of Scottie Pippen, he built a dynasty with a roster full of role players (Dennis Rodman was a terrific one, to be sure, but still a role player). While guys like Ron Harper, Steve Kerr and Bill Cartwright deserve respect, they weren’t in the same class as the championship teammates of Magic and Bird.

    So since Kobe came after Michael, he had to hear the “he’s never won it without Shaq” refrain earlier in his career. But Magic never heard “he never won it without Kareem.” Bird never heard “he never won it without Robert Parish and Kevin McHale.”

    In each of Magic’s five championship seasons, he had a top-50 player of all time (Kareem). Granted, Kareem, although still a big-time scorer, was 38, 40 and 41 years old for the final three titles. But by then, Magic had been joined by another top-50 teammate in James Worthy, who played on the Lakers’ 1985, 1987 and 1988 title teams. That’s not to mention other great Magic teammates such as Byron Scott, Jamaal Wilkes, Norm Nixon and Hall of Famer Bob McAdoo.

    Kobe obviously had an all-time superstar for his first three titles in Shaq. But for his past two rings, he’s had nothing close. Pau Gasol is a perennial All-Star, but he’s not going to make anyone’s top 50. If he and Kobe continue winning rings together, though, he’s got a shot at the Hall of Fame.

    The significance of Kobe’s ability to start from scratch and build a second mini-dynasty with the Lakers can’t be overstated, and gives him an advantage over many all-time greats.

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