Tuesday, June 22nd, 2010 at 1:48 pm  |  105 responses

NBA Top 25-Under 25

Ranking the L’s youngest players who go hard.

TIER 4: Role Players and a “ME” Player

17) Jeff Green | F | OKC Thunder
Age: 23 years, 9 months and 25 days
Years Pro: 3

Green and Westbrook each had fantasy Februaries (pardon me for my alliteration), as the Thunder went 9-2. He’s a reliable player who is really more of a small forward than power forward because of his size. Green’s solid 15 and 6 were a huge boost to the Thunder all season long, but he did not show up in the Playoffs. Against the Lakers in the opening round, Jeff Green made just 23-70 shots (32.9 percent), couldn’t make threes though he kept trying, and he only had one strong rebounding performance in six games.

18) George Hill | PG | San Antonio Spurs
Age: 24 years, 1 months and 18 days
Years Pro: 2

Hill is way more valuable to the Spurs than his statistics indicate. Hill serves as a safety valve for San Antonio, considering that Tony Parker gets injured from time to time. Even with a healthy Parker, the former IUPUI standout is the perfect fit for a mature team that knows what it’s doing. For only playing in the League two seasons (and not playing a whole lot his rookie season), Hill may possibly have the highest basketball IQ of anyone on this list. He just always seems to make the right decisions on the court. Hill is a good defender and an even better three-point shooter. If not for Hill’s contributions in Games 3, 4 and 6, the Mavericks probably would have beaten the Spurs in the opening round of this past postseason.

19) JR Smith | SG | Denver Nuggets
Age: 24 years, 9 months and 13 days
Years Pro: 6

Smith has shown little progress over six NBA seasons. It’s no secret that he has great athletic ability and a deadly three-pointer when he’s feeling it, but JR Smith still hasn’t learned to play team ball. If the ball goes to him, his teammates are well aware that it may not come back (see Kevin “The Black Hole” McHale). As I alluded to earlier, JR is a very streaky shooter and because he’s not one to turn down a shot, this results in offensive inconsistency. Let’s take his last week of 2009, for example. In Memphis, Smith made only 2-12 shots, but three days later he exploded for 41 points, including 10 three-pointers. Two days after that, he scored 20 but wasn’t very efficient. Finally, he ended the calendar year with 3-12 and 1-9 shooting nights, respectively. Those eight days (five games) are truly a microcosm of JR Smith’s career. He’s hot and cold like that horrible, yet catchy Katy Perry song.

20) OJ Mayo | SG | Memphis Grizzlies
Age: 22 years, 7 months and 17 days
Years Pro: 2

OJ Mayo just may be the best pure shooter on this list. There are a lot of things to like about Mayo. He’s a great three-point shooter (38 percent for two straight seasons), a good free throw shooter, and logs big minutes for his team. In fact, he almost plays as much as his teammate, Rudy Gay. Mayo is also very good at getting other players involved. Finally, unlike his time spent at USC, OJ doesn’t constantly need the ball in his hands in order to be effective. He’s become very good at moving without the ball and using screens to get open.

21) Andrea Bargnani | F/C | Toronto Raptors
Age: 24 years, 7 months and 27 days
Years Pro: 4

Bargnani has improved his offensive output and rebounding numbers in each of the last two seasons. Other than Chris Bosh, the former first overall pick was the only consistent offensive performer for Toronto last season (I’m calling you out, Hedo!). For the first time in his career, Bargnani did not have a single bad month. Inconsistency (see JR Smith) used to be this 7-footer’s problem, but it may be a thing of the past for him. He loves to take three-pointers as opposed to posting up. Like Beasley and Aldridge, this may explain why he doesn’t grab more rebounds. Still, Bargnani has been a great three-point shooter over his four-year career, so I don’t see any need for him to abandon those shots anytime soon. If Bosh leaves Toronto and the Raptors are not able to sign a star free agent, Bargnani will have to be THE GUY for Canada’s only remaining team. I don’t think Bargnani is ready to take on the task, but if the opportunity arises, he’ll have to do his best to prove me wrong.

22) Marvin Williams | SF | Atlanta Hawks
Age: 24 years, 0 months and 3 days
Years Pro: 5

Although this former Tar Heel is a 30-minute per game player on a Playoff team, his lack of individual progress is disappointing, to say the least. Maybe it’s unfair being the second overall pick, ahead of CP3 and DWill, but you can bet the Hawks envisioned Williams to be making a bigger impact, especially by his fifth season in the League. Williams shies away from contact and is content to play almost exclusively on the outside. Finally, Marv has been known to disappear in the Playoffs.

TIER 5: The Rest

23) Wilson Chandler | SF | New York Knicks
Age: 23 years, 1 months and 12 days
Years Pro: 3

He’s 6-8 and very athletic for anyone who hasn’t seen him play. Despite playing in a huge media market, Chandler doesn’t get much attention at all, likely because he’s been stuck on the low-achieving Knicks for the last three seasons. Last season’s numbers of 15.3, 5.4 rpg and 2.1 apg were respectable, but I am impressed at Chandler’s FG% improvement from 43 to 48 percent. Chandler did so by taking less threes and improving on his mid-range game. Chandler is a tough guy, but it is a little disconcerting that he’s mixed an extended amount of time due to injury, twice in his thrEric Gordonee-year NBA career. While the rest of the Knicks are hoping for the arrival of a big-name free agent, Wilson Chandler must appear in court on July 1 because marijuana was found in his car a month ago when he was stopped in Queens. Knicks’ fans have to hope Chandler will be smarter in the future, because he has a really good thing going in NY.

24) Eric Gordon | SG | L.A. Clippers
Age: 21 years, 5 months and 28 days
Years Pro: 2

After being an Indiana Hoosier for only a season, EJ (he’s affectionately referred to as EJ short for Eric Jr…not EG) has been a blessing for the Clippers. He has the rare combined ability to slam it down (he lost to DeRozan in the all-star dunk-in, but EJ is a better in-game dunker than anything else) and drain the three. Also rare for such a young shooting guard, he shoots a very high percentage and rarely turns the ball over. Gordon’s biggest problem is that he’s undersized. Still, he plays feisty defense to make up for the fact that he’s only 6-2. I think LeBron and EJ would be great together if you add in Chris Kaman and a healthy Blake Griffin, but LBJ to the Clippers will be a tough, tough sell. I’m just saying combo of guys can post, drain threes, play the mid-range game, and run the fast break well.

25) Brandon Jennings | PG | Milwaukee Bucks
Age: 20 years, 8 months and 30 days
Years Pro: 1

The Bucks did some big things in 2010, considering the obstacles they were up against. Michael Redd had the worst season of his career and only played in 18 games. The 2005 first overall pick, Andrew Bogut, suffered a dislocated elbow, sprained wrist and broken hand, all on the same play on a fateful Saturday in early April. Even without the sharpshooter, Michael Redd, and the Aussie’s big inside presence, this rookie was there to lead the Reindeers to a 4-2 record over their last six games. During the regular season, Jennings scored 55 points in just his seventh ever NBA game. That feat alone tells you how much potential this lefty has. Unfortunately for BJ, this list, as mentioned in the criteria section, weighs more heavily a player’s consistency in the here and now. He only had two other 30+ games, but he did have a ton of performances in which he just couldn’t buy a bucket. For example, BJ had a 34-point game in Game 1 against the Hawks, followed up by a miserable 3-15 showing. When Milwaukee went up 3-2 in that series, he stunk in the two close-out games, combining for just 6 assists and 10-33 shooting.

ON THE CUSP:

26) Lou Williams
27) Rodney Stuckey
28) Darren Collison
29) Marcus Thornton
30) Danilo Gallinari

When Aaron isn’t studying NBA players under 25 years old, he’s a full-time student at the University of California-Davis. At UCD, he broadcasts various sporting events and appears on a weekly radio sports show called “Aggie Talk” on KDVS 90.3 fm. Aaron also co-hosts the Davis Sports Deli Podcast and sings karaoke in his free time.

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  • ripslam Posted: Jun.22 at 1:54 pm
    Seriously? Michael Beasley and Kevin Love are rated higher than OJ Mayo, Brandon Jennings, and Eric Gordon. Getouttahere.

  • niQ Posted: Jun.22 at 1:55 pm
    Nice list. I think Stephen Curry should be slightly higher and that Jennings should be a lot higher.

  • Ryne Nelson Posted: Jun.22 at 1:57 pm
    Very nice list, but, please, Marvin Williams shouldn’t be anywhere near the top 25.

  • iheartcoffee Posted: Jun.22 at 1:57 pm
    Cool article but Mike Beasley is way to high on this list.

  • Enigmatic Posted: Jun.22 at 1:57 pm
    I was gonna say Howard should be number 1 cause of his accomplishments thus far but damn, it’s really hard to argue with your reasoning behind why Durant is number 1. Rose being top 5 is lovely too (though I think he should be above Smith). My only beef in this list is I think Russell Westbrook should be ahead of Al Horford and LaMarcus Aldridge.

  • niQ Posted: Jun.22 at 1:57 pm
    Also, if you’re going to say “winnings is heavily weighted” then Jennings should definitely be at least top 10-15.

  • Arek Posted: Jun.22 at 2:00 pm
    HA! Durant at #11? this list is horrible no offense

  • Arek Posted: Jun.22 at 2:01 pm
    wait nevermind what I said, I was looking at the Dec 2007 list

  • Ryne Nelson Posted: Jun.22 at 2:01 pm
    Co-sign, Enigmatic.

  • Tzvi Twersky Posted: Jun.22 at 2:05 pm
    Love the concept, but not the list.

  • Allenp Posted: Jun.22 at 2:17 pm
    cool idea, some questionable placement.

  • cramzy Posted: Jun.22 at 2:27 pm
    yall did Brandon Jennings in!I’d take him waaayyyy over Marvin Williams & Wilson Freakin Chandler…He’s at the very least top 20..right?

  • Ryne Nelson Posted: Jun.22 at 2:42 pm
    ^ Right.

  • rico Posted: Jun.22 at 2:49 pm
    Rose is rated way too high. Dude is an athletes, but not a good pg…..and don’t say I don’t know ball cuz i’m a chicago fan!

  • D12FSU Posted: Jun.22 at 2:57 pm
    If you we’re making just an overall list of best players, Kevin Durant would probably not crack the top 3, Dwight would (Kobe, Lebron, Dwight, then Durant/Wade) so i dont know why Dwights not #1 here……and yes Kobe is better than LeBron

  • RJ Posted: Jun.22 at 3:02 pm
    Really Brandon Jennings is all the way down there? Really?

  • Clay Posted: Jun.22 at 3:07 pm
    I’d be tempted to throw Darren Collison in the top 25, but I can’t question your decision. Russell Westbrook should be placed ahead of Bynum. Too much love for Beasley. He has struggled so far in the NBA finding a position. Even as a Pistons fan I know Stuckey shouldn’t be in the rankings. A couple years ago many (Joe Dumars at least) were high on him, but I never saw greatness. He’s not a pure point and his jumper is inconsistent while being only 6′ 4″.

  • jumpman3224 Posted: Jun.22 at 3:08 pm
    cosign Everyone is who is questioning the placement of Jennings and Beasley.

  • Kap Posted: Jun.22 at 3:09 pm
    Jennings is very overrated…he is a streaky volume shooter with above average passing skills nothing more.

  • Enigmatic Posted: Jun.22 at 3:17 pm
    @Rico – With your post, I SERIOUSLY gotta question your use of the phrase “Chicago fan”. I’m from the shadows of the Chi, son. Been down from Jordan to freakin’ Ron Mercer to the Roses, Jalen and now Derrick. From Rod Strickland to Mac Koshwal (what up, DePaul!) From Ronnie Fields to Jereme Richmond (Anthony Davis got next!). Man, I been watching Rose since his Simeon days. Ain’t no way he’s too high on this list. Who you gonna put over him? Monta Ellis? Michael Beasely? Rudy Gay? Come on now!

  • Kap Posted: Jun.22 at 3:22 pm
    Westbrook just came unto the scene this yr but Bynum has been slowly been doing his thing in Gasols shadow for 2-3 yrs now.

  • Alex z Posted: Jun.22 at 3:33 pm
    Danillo gallenari at30 and ” your boy” Brandon Jennings soooo low….

  • rico Posted: Jun.22 at 3:40 pm
    @enigmatic….hey man, i’m born an raised south side chi. anyone can see rose is overrated. he should be on the street ball circuit not trying to carry mj’s tourch. Let me guess….you’re a cubs fan!?!

  • david Posted: Jun.22 at 3:44 pm
    You got Wilson Chandler and Bargani on this list….WHERE THE HECK IS JJ HICKSON!!??

  • Enigmatic Posted: Jun.22 at 3:46 pm
    @Rico – Come on now, Rose is not out there trying to carry MJ’s torch. That’s not what he’s about. And I think you’re one of the few who would call him overrated. And I’m not a Cubs or a Sox fan, I hate baseball. But I do gotta admit, South Side > North Side.

  • Kap Posted: Jun.22 at 3:58 pm
    JJ Hickson??? Only Chris Broussard would think this guy belongs on this list. Chandler and Bargani actually see the court thats why theyre on the list.

  • JACO Posted: Jun.22 at 4:03 pm
    big heat and laker fan here and i just want to say beasley has game but spoelstra wont let him shine through his mistakes and as a young player he will make alot of them .

  • rainman10 Posted: Jun.22 at 4:03 pm
    Considering this is SLAM, it would be nice to get somebody who can actually write to help with this article. It’s a nice concept, but some of his player evaluations are way off. He has Brandon Jennings ranked 25 because of consistency issues, but ranked JR Smith 19th and even cited inconsistent play by JR. And in the beginning he stated that winning has a lot to do with the rankings, and yet Eric Gordon and Wilson Chandler are just ahead of BJ. Really, George Hill is 7 spots ahead of Brandon Jennings? Imagine if the current George Hill was a rookie this past season with the likes of Evans, Curry, and Jennings. How many votes would he have gotten for rookie of the year? His 15, 3, and 3 averages as a starter would put him below those other guys.

  • rico Posted: Jun.22 at 4:05 pm
    @Enigmatic…..okay, we can be cool as long as you respect the south side. Maybe we could be friends….friends with benefits?!? I just have a hard time wit Rose cuz he’s from my hood and is just reinforcing the black stereotypes of us southsiders (he’s dumb and cheats). If the dude can study the game and play team ball he’ll find success. I’m much rather have a real pg though like d-will.

  • JL Posted: Jun.22 at 4:06 pm
    @kap I agree, jennings is good at other things but his shooting is woeful as I suspected when he was drafted. people are all excited when he was hot for the first couple months or something then took a straight nose dive. wilson chandler shouldn’t be there on the list cuz he has peaked, and his team sucked. if anything, gallinari is better than him (same team and all). but collison and thornton definitely have alot more potential and won more.

  • Enigmatic Posted: Jun.22 at 4:22 pm
    @Rico – Rose ain’t got nothin’ on dudes like Josh Howard or Zach Randolph when it comes to “reinforcing black stereotypes”.

  • Enigmatic Posted: Jun.22 at 4:28 pm
    @rico – When it comes to “reinforcing black stereotypes” Rose ain’t got nothing on dudes like Josh Howard and Zach Randolph. If you from Englewood, you should know what Rose is all about. He’s a real humble dude and just wants to be the best at what he does. There’s no such thing as a “true pg” in today’s game, man. There probably never was. For every Bob Cousy, John Stockton, or Jason Kidd there’s always been an Oscar Robertson, Isiah Thomas or Tiny Archibald.

  • dfrance Posted: Jun.22 at 4:43 pm
    It really makes no sense that your write-up basically says Beasely has yet to do anything in the NBA, but he’s better than these 10 other guys.

  • onlyclipsfanonslam Posted: Jun.22 at 5:04 pm
    I really don’t have a gripe about most of these players… but Marvin Williams is the only one who should not be on this list.

  • david Posted: Jun.22 at 5:07 pm
    @kap yea the reason Chandler and Bargani see the court is cause the play for sorry ass squads! JJ should’ve been playin over Jamison all along

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  • 21 Posted: Jun.22 at 6:06 pm
    Wats with this.. Are you an intern?

  • KoolaidkiD Posted: Jun.22 at 6:20 pm
    Brandon Jennings’ fans are morons. Haha. Remember when he got that 55 point game (against the worst defensive team in the league, in the Golden State Warriors) and then couldn’t score above 20 for like 3 months straight. LMAO. Jennings is garbage. And this is coming from a DIE-HARD BUCKS FAN!!!! FEER THE DEER!!!!! START RIDNOUR!!!!

  • Exiled Zebra Posted: Jun.22 at 7:28 pm
    Hollins needs to decide that rudy is the man and have them play that way, but theyre sharing the ball all around, that is whats keeping rudy from 25ppg, and all stars. Gordon, collison and thornton should all be higher

  • Austin Posted: Jun.22 at 7:43 pm
    I’m going to say what every Blazers fan who reads this is thinking: WHERE THE HECK IS NIC BATUM? Seriously. He is good, NOW. Almost had 50/40/90 averages, defended the other teams’ best wing player most nights, is only 21. 2009 deadline, KP reportedly turned down Gerald Wallace for Batum and a large expiring…and that’s a pretty defendable decision. Also, Beasly sucks, Rose is athletic but inefficient so far, and you have some various typos that must have been missed in editing.

  • Kevin Posted: Jun.22 at 8:18 pm
    Isn’t Tyreke a bit too high? I dont think I would place him above Westbrook

  • Aaron Fischman Posted: Jun.22 at 8:33 pm
    I just want to say that upon greater reflection and reading all the feedback, I agree that Jennings should have been slightly higher on winning, alone. Still, given that he’s an unproven, inconsistent rookie, let’s not get too ahead of ourselves. He belongs no higher than 21 or 22. My other mistake was that I put JR Smith a little too high (maybe Marv too). I understand and welcome all the feedback, and thanks guys for giving me your opinions! By the way, Jennings is sure to rise on the next edition. I just had to ignore his immense potential and what until he shows me consistency. Thanks for understanding.

  • Aaron Fischman Posted: Jun.22 at 8:42 pm
    wait until*

  • E Posted: Jun.22 at 9:33 pm
    OJ Mayo the best pure shooter? have you seen Steph Curry???

  • Sporting-Lisbon-Blazers Posted: Jun.22 at 10:07 pm
    no Nicholas Batum on the last group!? you guys seem to not been payin to mutch attention..smh

  • Mucha Posted: Jun.22 at 11:08 pm
    Danilo Gallinari is clearly better than Marvin Williams and JR Smith, I mean please. I don’t think Michael Beasley’s 15 spots ahead of Gallinari either, they’re pretty much equal in terms of talent and production. Andrew Bynum and Al Horford should be ranked higher than Monta Ellis too. Interesting topic but poor list – no disrespect.

  • C-Lo-The-Great Posted: Jun.22 at 11:19 pm
    @ rico shoot urself and never talk nobody from the city hates on rose ur either a liar or a big time hater how you gonna say a guy who almost was the bulls entire offense is overrated s**t i got rose over rondo based on talent but grand theft rondo (love the nickname) has a ring and couldve had 2 cant hate on a champ

  • what Posted: Jun.23 at 1:29 am
    As a Hawks fan, I can say confidently that the only top-25 lists Marvin Williams belongs on are top-25 biggest draft busts and top-25 people under the age of 25 who walk like they are 75.

  • Aaron Fischman Posted: Jun.23 at 1:29 am
    Thanks for your concern, but Batum definitely was considered. I also nearly included Afflalo (Denver) because he’s a great defender for a playoff team. CJ Miles was strongly considered, among others. Oh by the way, JJ Hickson is a good player, but not deserving of this list just yet.

  • Aaron Fischman Posted: Jun.23 at 1:39 am
    James Harden, Thaddeus Young, Andray Blatche, Wesley Matthews, Jonny Flynn, Corey Brewer, Spencer Hawes, Jason Thompson, Speights, Jrue Holiday, Conley Jr, Ilyasova, Brandon Rush, Hibbert, Martell Webster, Bayless, Casspi, Daequan Cook, Mario Chalmers…I’m telling you guys. Every team has a guy or more whom his/their fans believe should be on here. From 21/22 until 30, it gets really dicey because none of the players are proven at all. But again, no one slips through the cracks. I have watched and researched all the eligible players.

  • Exiled Zebra Posted: Jun.23 at 2:55 am
    Yea, cj miles and blatche should have def been on here, esp blatche

  • bashmo Posted: Jun.23 at 2:56 am
    wtfffff Al Jefferson ahead of Deron WIlliams and kevin durant, and brandon roy?? OMG CHRIS BOSH BEHIND AL JEFFERSON TOO??? List is void right of the bat

  • Patrick Posted: Jun.23 at 4:13 am
    It’s a crime that Monta is so high and Lopez, Gordon and Jennings are so low. I like Al Horford a lot, but what has he done that Lopez hasn’t done? Other than make the playoffs, of course. The top 4 is solid though. I agree with Durant over Howard.

  • d Posted: Jun.23 at 4:20 am
    OJ Mayo should be in the top 10. And come next season may argubly be the best player on this list.

  • omphalos Posted: Jun.23 at 4:24 am
    As much as I love Beasley there no way he is that high on the list. Danilo is more deserving of a spot than Beasley given his drive and will. Anybody who saw him throw down the gauntlet to Melo this season knows what I’m talking about.

  • Myung Posted: Jun.23 at 7:51 am
    As a Hawks fan, I can think of 25 players NOT on this list who are better than Marvin Williams (including probably 10 guys who will be drafted tomorrow night).

  • The Seed Posted: Jun.23 at 8:06 am
    Curry and Jennings should be higher, Monta should be lower, he just tries to scores. OJ Mayo is higher. But Jennings being 25 overall shows someone did not watch games. Jennings can do everything Rose can do on the court, but shoot better. Rose is better than Rondo. Lets see how Rondo produces with out the suppose BIG 3. Beside the top 6 playes, any of those teams would trade their player for Jennings. This list lost all credibility with Jennings 25. Evans and Rondo is becoming too overrated for my taste. Rondo disappears, because he can’t shoot like Lebron and Evans one man show hurt the Kings chemistry. Beasley is a disappointment, no one will trade for him. OJ Mayo to me is very underrated, remember he plays with a big time ball hog in Gay. OJ’s game remind me of Kobe and Howard is number one, because he can effect the game on offense and defense. He is not the reason the Magic loss, its his teammates especially Vince Carter and Matt “Housepunk” Barnes.

  • Morgan Posted: Jun.23 at 9:00 am
    Decent list but everyone is going to feel its a few places out based on who they have watched play most. My problem is that although you have said you factored in what they have accomplished you have forgot to add the “i have a championship ring” factor. Bynum, although missing games has played longer seasons than most on this list (as they have reached the finals the past 3 years) and has 2 rings as a starter.

  • Playa Posted: Jun.23 at 9:10 am
    Brandon Jennings is too low. Steph Curry should be in the top 10. Marvin Williams shouldn’t be on the list. Durant over Howard? I don’t think so.

  • J Posted: Jun.23 at 9:11 am
    @seed, you know this may be one of the littlest things i agree with you, i do see a kobe bryant in OJ Mayo too. In all honesty i like how mayo plays and very reminiscing to me of bryant and a little of a young ray allen. Very good form of shooting and overall range. in at least two years i think, he could be the best player that franchise has ever had. Well hopefully..

  • Kap Posted: Jun.23 at 9:26 am
    Howard has too many holes in his game to be over Durant…The dude dropped 25 for like 30-40 sumthn games I thnk. Durant is effective on both ends of the court while Howard has little offensive awareness and is only a descent scorer bc of his athleticism.

  • Spaceship Jay Posted: Jun.23 at 9:29 am
    I stop reading after I saw how low Brandon Jennings was.

  • J Posted: Jun.23 at 9:30 am
    i could agree with most on the list except from josh smith being that high, or at least better than rose, and jennings being on the worst position he could be, jennings is at least top 20. bad percentage yes, but it seems you’ve forgotten the most important thing jennings have done, almost SINGLE-HANDEDLY beat the hawks last playoffs.

  • J Posted: Jun.23 at 9:36 am
    lol at spaceship jay, you’ve basically read the whole article..

  • Myung Posted: Jun.23 at 9:44 am
    And again, as a Hawks fan, I find it laughable that Josh Smith is considered your 4th best Under 25 player. I’ve seen almost every game of this kid’s career so far… and I there are (at least) 10 guys on your list (and probably 10 not on your list) below him that I’d take in a 1 for 1 trade in a heart beat. He’s physically gifted and puts up numbers, but in terms of his attitude and basketball IQ, he leaves a lot to be desired. Give me Derrick Rose, Tyreke, Monta, Aldridge, Westbrook, Curry, Love, Lopez, Mayo, or Jennings over Josh any day.

  • Kap Posted: Jun.23 at 9:56 am
    @ Myung…No Bynum?

  • J Posted: Jun.23 at 9:57 am
    i like jeff green he could be a better version of antawn jamison, hopefully he could also improve dramatically on defense. On that note OKC should be shopping for a big man with their money this summer. A good defensive center is what they need. I think they could bring in haywood or camby or both without salvaging their cap space,

  • catface34343 Posted: Jun.23 at 10:02 am
    Thad Young?

  • Kap Posted: Jun.23 at 10:02 am
    I’ve been talking to several people and they think that Bynum basically sucks and has no talent. IMO, I think he is a perennial all star

  • Myung Posted: Jun.23 at 10:03 am
    Kap, I’d rather have Josh Smith’s bad attitude and shot selection than Bynum’s bad knees (and every other part of his body that can’t remain healthy).

  • Sean Posted: Jun.23 at 10:03 am
    That list is bs!
    What is Mike Beasley doing there!

  • J Posted: Jun.23 at 10:06 am
    beasley is a victim of the miami system where you should be a great spot up shooter or great in the post if you’re not named wade. beasley is not both, he is a slasher mid range type which is almost same as wade, he should be on a team that can utilize him properly. i think he’s good as gone this summer,

  • The Seed Posted: Jun.23 at 11:07 am
    J
    OJ May will be a beast in two years and he plays like Kobe, its like he mimic how Kobe plays, like how Kobe mimic how Jordan plays. Thats why I thought the Heat should have drafted OJ over Beasley, OJ has HUGE upside, but he plays in Memphis and hardly gets TV time. Thats why Memphis heads came out and said they would not trade OJ for Chris Paul. OJ will be a beast and should be higher on this list. BOOK IT!!!

  • Maurice Bobb Posted: Jun.23 at 11:12 am
    B Jennings needs to be WAY higher on this list. And OJ Mayo and Eric Gordon should def be higher up.

  • Bryan Crawford Posted: Jun.23 at 12:06 pm
    SMH @ Rico’s comments…you really shouldn’t hate on somebody that represents Englewood, especially if you say that you’re from there and live there. And to say Rose represents “black stereotypes” is just wrong. It shows you have zero understanding of this kid and the type of person he is. You can’t possibly be from Chicago talking reckless like that.

  • [...] SLAM named KD the NBA’s top player under 25: “Durantula earned the highly coveted top spot on this list, but his selection was definitely not a no-brainer. There are two elite players under the age of 25: Dwight Howard and Kevin Durant. Howard is the best low-post defender and rebounder in the League, but Kevin Durant is a much more complete player. He’s starting to rebound and defend very well. Oh and one other thing…KD led the League in scoring this season.” [...]

  • J Posted: Jun.23 at 1:01 pm
    Off topic: recently i watched my favorite wnba team, the seattle storm, and then i realized that the sonics need to be resurrected, @seed, even if there were no beasley in that draft they wouldnt pick mayo, he’s a sg. he’s no pg, he can’t live with wade. And, i’m amazed with jennings, that guy proved to be mature and humble instead of being that much arrogant that i think he will be coming here, mad props.

  • hoodsnake Posted: Jun.23 at 1:13 pm
    A great read and Beasly is a bit too high. Matter of fact B-Easy is high all the time!

  • dsleepy Posted: Jun.23 at 1:30 pm
    agree with J, bring back the sonics! also jennings should be higher and m.williams nowhere NEAR this list. i still cant believe he got picked before cp3 and dwill in the draft. sick…

  • dino Posted: Jun.23 at 2:04 pm
    Jennings at 25 WTF!!! Beasley has potential but he is way too high on this list. OJ is gonna be good someday but right now he is somewhere between overhyped & underated. Also anyone who thinks Monta is better than Steph needs thier head checked. And Big Brook should be top 10 he is and will be better than Horford, Bynum and Aldridge

  • Kap Posted: Jun.23 at 2:22 pm
    I disagree with Lopez being better than Bynum. Bynum put up close to same numbers on a championship team and Bynum has so much size that really shows up on both ends of court. Lopez is great but I like Bynum’s impact better.

  • Aaron Fischman Posted: Jun.23 at 4:24 pm
    I love the debate that this list has inspired, but I think a lot of the discussion is tangential to what the criteria is actually about. A lot of people keep commenting that they would take so and so (usually Jennings) over someone else who was ranked higher on the list any day…or that they would much rather build a team with Jennings than such and such. So would I! I completely agree! The problem is that that’s not what this list measures. The “who would I build my team around factor” has POTENTIAL written all over it. This list is biased against rookies. Jennings is going to be great, but he’s nowhere near a reliable player at this point in time. This list is updated occasionally so that once guys like Jennings become consistent, they can move up. In response to the Big Brook concern, fair or not, I can’t have a guy in the top 10 who played for one of the worst teams in NBA history. Gordon and Mayo were also hurt by playing on poor teams even though I personally love each of their games.

  • PAPALOUKAS (click on my name) Posted: Jun.23 at 5:49 pm
    GO USA!!!! LANDON DONOVAN RULES, GHANA HERE WE COME!!!! (the u.s. football team is in many ways the exact opposite of the u.s. bball one…)

  • Gerard Himself Posted: Jun.23 at 8:18 pm
    lists always are a good topic, it really helps getting people to post on SLAMonline. For that alone, good job with the list Aaron (even though I don’t agree with a lot of those picks, lists are always fun)

  • J Posted: Jun.23 at 8:55 pm
    Aaron fischman: i only disagree with two things one of which is jennings. He is definitely qualified to be higher based on your criteria. He’s inconsistent, yes, and so as some of the guys placed higher than him. They almost beat the hawks with him leading the team. That’s very remarkable. Some can say Evans can do the same, but thats just speculation. Lets deal with whats on the table and it proves that jennings is no way only listed at 25 at this point in time. Had marvin williams did equal for all of his career what brandon did this year? No.

  • Aaron Fischman Posted: Jun.23 at 9:20 pm
    Thank you. I understand and respect that. I acknowledged above that in retrospect, Jennings should have been placed slightly higher (possibly around 21) with Marv and JR slightly lower.

  • J Posted: Jun.23 at 9:33 pm
    and i definitely agree with the rest on the list. great work overall.

  • Ross Posted: Jun.23 at 9:34 pm
    Awesome list dude! I like Jennings’ upside and Beasley is a physical presence whenever he is on his game. Much of it is open to debate and will be changed in the coming months after John Wall and the Draft tonight!
    I’m sure AHFisch is on top of it, as always.
    Mazel tov Aaron, another step in the road to sports journalism greatness.

  • Aaron Fischman Posted: Jun.23 at 9:49 pm
    Thanks again!

  • Brad Long Posted: Jun.23 at 11:05 pm
    I guess people have already forgotten about what Kevin Durant did last year. #11!?!? Get the fu(k outta here.

  • rainman10 Posted: Jun.23 at 11:16 pm
    ok some people are clearly reading the list from a few yrs ago.

  • Teddy-the-Bear Posted: Jun.24 at 3:08 am
    I’d rather have Russell Westbrook than Andrew Bynum.

  • Daniel Posted: Jun.24 at 3:21 am
    SERGE IBAKA!!! He jumps out of the gym, can block shots, rebound and actually has a good jump shot too. Who’d you rather have for the next five years? Some of the other fools on this list, or Serge Ibaka?

  • Ronald Posted: Jun.24 at 3:56 am
    @rainman10: It also doesn’t help that the average slamonline reader doesn’t have a very long attention span. If they bothered reading the article to the 2nd page they would have realized their stupidity. Hard to disagree with some of the choices up there, especially when I don’t have a list of all the under-25 players in the league. But Tyreke Evans seems kinda high considering he hasn’t won them many games.

  • A. Posted: Jun.24 at 4:48 am
    Some people (hey Brad Long!) must feel preeeeetty stupid right about now. Reading is fundamental.

  • jond Posted: Jun.24 at 4:57 am
    I don’t think Tyreke is too high if we’re talking about pure talent. Tyreke shot about 46% from the field, and 75% from the line. The idea that he’s a one man show and a volume shooter is competely false. He was able to do that, and get almost 6 assists per game with defenses geared towards stopping him. Most of teh guys on this list don’t have defenses completely greared towards stopping them and face constant doubles like Tyreke. Replace Tyreke with Rose or Rondo in the Kings lineup and the win total doesn’t change. Might actually drop given the game winnners Tyreke hit vs Mil and Den.

  • Will Lee Posted: Jun.24 at 6:16 am
    bynum at 10 ? fuk that

  • JoeMaMa Posted: Jun.24 at 7:20 am
    I really don’t know why more people don’t see how good of a player Eric Gordon is. He even got Kobe’s endorsement and offer to train with him. He’s a gamer.
    Also, a few guys have already said this, but OJ Mayo can PLAY! He will be one of the best in the league in a few years, no doubt. Shoulda been higher. Mr. Writer, thanks for your list; it’s inspired us in the peanut gallery to discuss much.

  • Aaron Posted: Jun.24 at 9:44 am
    Darren Collison = Overlooked.
    He’s going to be a top ten PG in the next couple years.

  • Hursty Posted: Jun.24 at 9:50 am
    You guys forget just how bad Jennings slumped during the regular season. He balled out hard during the playoffs, and credit to him for that. But, that doesn’t make up for 45-50 games of sup 40% shooting, sup 5 assist games.

  • Aaron Fischman Posted: Jun.24 at 3:01 pm
    I’d much rather have EJ and Mayo than a lot of people ahead of them on the list. Once again, for those who did not read the criteria, this list does NOT factor in “who would I rather have on my team or who would I build my team around?”. Mayo and Gordon have never been in the playoffs. Fair or not, that hurt them even though they are currently more complete players than Beasley and JR Smith, for example.

  • Aaron Fischman Posted: Jun.24 at 3:15 pm
    Collison was great for 3 months. That sample size is wayyyy to small. If he keeps that up next season (he’ll need the Hornets to trade CP3 which I doubt or let the two play together), he’s going to rise on this list. No doubt. Someone inquired about Serge Ibaka of the Thunder. He’s so fun to watch with his leaping and shot-blocking abilities as well as his developing mid-range game. Still, if we look around the league, there are 20-30 guys with various games who have potential like him. He’s nowhere close to as proven as the guys on this list. Again, potential is very minimal in determining who makes this list. Thanks for reading. Thaddeus Young is definitely ready.

  • Aaron Fischman Posted: Jun.24 at 3:15 pm
    not ready*

  • Aaron Fischman Posted: Jun.24 at 3:16 pm
    Thad Young not ready*

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