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Tuesday, June 29th, 2010 at 9:00 am  |  172 responses

Report: LeBron, D-Wade and Bosh Met in Miami

UPDATE: … Or maybe they didn’t.

by Marcel Mutoni / @marcel_mutoni

Who knows? Maybe the three biggest NBA free agents this summer met up in Miami over the weekend to discuss the new season of “True Blood.” No one can say for sure.

According to ESPN and their sources, however, Bosh, Wade and James got together and finally had that Free Agent Summit.

It was a much smaller affair than what was initially dreamed up a few weeks ago, and more importantly, this particular meeting had a very specific goal: the triumvirate reportedly wanted to explore the terrifying possibility of playing together in South Beach next season.

Sources close to the situation said Monday night that three of the biggest names in basketball — Wade, Chris Bosh and LeBron James — met over the weekend in Miami to seriously discuss their futures, with a focus on the increasingly plausible possibility of those three teaming up with Wade’s Heat.

Yet sources with knowledge of the meeting stressed to ESPN.com that James, while clearly intrigued by the possibility of forming a star-studded Miami trio with Wade and Bosh, has not yet committed to leaving his hometown Cleveland Cavaliers for South Beach. One source did label Miami as the new frontrunner to land James in a package deal with Bosh and a re-signed Wade but also cautioned that James was “non-committal” with the start of free agency fast approaching.

Sources said James remains committed to fielding free-agent pitches from several teams when free agency officially opens Thursday at 12:01 a.m. ET, with the Chicago Bulls continuing to rank as a highly appealing destination and a return to Cleveland still figuring prominently in his thinking and with the Dallas Mavericks looming as an intriguing outsider.

Everyone seems to have a theory these days: 48 hours ago, Chicago was a “done deal”, some now claim there’s friction within the LeBron camp, others believe Bosh is a goner from Toronto, and this is apparently all part of Pat Riley’s evil and ingenious plan.

The truth is that no one truly knows what’s going to happen once the clock strikes midnight on July 1st, not even the players themselves.

Just hang on to your hats, it’s going to be a wild ride.

UPDATE: Wade’s people are now saying there was no meeting in Miami: “Dwyane Wade’s representatives on Tuesday disputed an ESPN report that Wade, LeBron James and Chris Bosh held a mini-summit in Miami this past weekend to discuss their plans for free agency, which begins Thursday. Henry Thomas, who is Wade’s agent, said the report was untrue and that Wade spent the weekend in Chicago. Bosh spent the weekend in Miami and told The Miami Herald that the Heat is in ‘top contention’ to sign him. But the players are believed to have discussed among themselves the possibility of all three playing for the Heat.”

Please adjust your lives accordingly.

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  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Uhm,to correct the esteemed Mr. Mutoni, I don’t think anyone will know ANYTHING until names are on contracts July 8th or later. July 1st is going to be a huge letdown when it comes to the real big names (Bosh, Bron, Stat, etc.). We may see other lesser players switch squads, but these cats are goign to drag the process out. Am I hopeful of Lebron and Bosh coming here?(especially now that Chris doesn’t look like a ghey Predator)Sure. Do I think that will happen? I don’t think BOTH will come, but I think one will and he’s the one that fought Arnold in the jungles of South America in the 80′s.

  • Fat Lever

    Ok, so let me get this straight. Bosh talks about being more than just an option(Drake anyone?) and wanting to be the man, but now I’m supposed to believe that he’ll accept being 3rd on the totem pole on a team? And on ESPN this morning, they were talking about between either Lebron or Bosh, who would take a paycut to get some help in to whatever team they go to. Broussard, with a straight face, said Lebron would be willing to take a paycut to appease Bosh. The same guy that wore a shirt that said “Check My $tats”. Yea right. I didn’t know they allowed drugs in the ESPN studios. But then I guess that would explain how all the other anchors are able to deal with Stuart Scott.

  • http://claydefayette@yahoo.com Clay

    Not that anyone cares, but this is how it would go down in my world: Wade & Bosh to Miami, LeBron to Clippers, Amare & Joe Johnson on the Knicks, and Boozer to the Bulls.

  • tom

    I think the lakers will sign those three anyway.. :) just keepin kobe.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Here’s what I understand (and I’m certain of this): if each guy can max out at $16 million, and the Heat can offer each guy around $14.4 with their current salary allotment AND Florida has no state tax (meaning that million and half that os shorted is more like $700,00)…contract monies wouldn’t be the issue. Don’t let the hype from ESPN fool you.

  • Groves

    its a massive build up to free agency… but it will start slow like all free agencies and gradually become more rapid as mid level guys are signed

  • T-Money

    Bosh is in MIA, that’s done. Bryan Colangelo alluded to that. The thing is, I’m not sure that Bosh/Bron/Wade and a gutter roster is a better option for Bron that Chi-town. CHI could possibly field Rose, JJ, Bron, Lee and Noah if they s+t Luol Deng. That’s a more balanced team with clearly defined roles. Amar’e seems to be the odd man out, he’ll have to settle for the money in NJ or NY.

  • Groves

    i agree with clay however, i would like to see lee and a shooter join bosh and wade in miami… and re-sign haslem

  • T-Money

    Groves: not this year. No team will move until they know for a fact that they’re not getting Bron. Nobody wants to mess up their cap space because once you get Bron, you’ll need to sign another star.

  • zabba

    If I was Lebron I’d call up Pat Riley or Donnie Walsh and say “Hey, it’s a done deal. I’m on your team, BUT don’t tell anyone yet.” And then do something else. The opportunity to f*ck around with people’s minds, can’t pass that up.

  • http://www.slamonline.com/ niQ

    I don’t even care anymore. Let’s just pool them all together like it was Fantasy Basketball. (Actually, even that wouldn’t really happen unless you’re playing in a league of 2-3 people. LOL)

  • The D Train

    Wade, Lebron, Bosh and 9 pieces of poo do not a title team make. If you want to compare Miami and Chicago for who’d be better right away, you have to ask is Wade better than the Rose/Noah combo? Deng/Gibson and Beasley/Chalmers cancel each other out on the sh1t-scale, but, and I’m obviously biased as a Bulls fan, I just think that pairing with a stud PG and above-average center (the 2 hardest spots on the floor to fill) is smarter than pairing with a SG. All of this negates the fact that Riles-led leadership has a big advantage over Punchin’ Paxon’s group in the Chi.

  • ai come back

    yo fat lever? lebron might wanna be the first billionaire athlete and all but go tlk to kobe bout big contracts lebron wasnt even the highest paid guy on his TEAM last year

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Oh, Poor Bulls fans are losing their minds this morning. I feel bad for them.

  • The D Train

    Jesus, I need to wake up before posting. I meant to say that “all of this disregards the fact that the Riles-led leadership…” Obviously the fact that Miami’s ownership has Riley and Wade clamoring over how great they are does not bode well for Bulls fans. Chicago’s only chance on that front is to have MJ call Lebron and tell him how great Reinsdorf is, even if it’s not necessarily true. Although Reinsdorf did pay Jordan something like 25 million for a single year to repay him for him not being the highest paid player in the league. So in that instance you cannot totally dismiss Chicago as not taking care of their own. And they always had enough in the coffers to kick down to a Pippen, a Kukoc, a Phil Jackson. Reinsdorf seemed to me to be the type of cat that was willing to pay if you were winning. You’re not going to pay top-dollars to less-than-superstar-type players if you’re JR, though. And since Chicago has had zero of those guys since MJ and Pippen left (until Rose now) it’s pretty far off base for Wade to bash the organization, or for anyone else to say that the Bulls don’t take care of their own.

  • The Philosopher

    Shout out @the Bulls fans.
    I’M CHANGING MY PREDICTIONS!!…
    ALL OF THEM TO MIAMI!!! LOL!!!

  • Ali Duyar

    LeBron+DWade+Bosh trio is a good orchestra,but they need a chief for that orchestra,such as Hedo.

  • slamfan4life

    If all 3 went to MIA it’d be nuts, their friggin bench would suck so bad…

    I’m a bulls fan, I wan’t to vastly improve and if these star FA’s want to win now and for many more years then Chicago is obviously the place to be

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    ^Yes….because Noah and Rose and lightyears better than Beasley and Wade. That’s basically what Bulls fans are hanging their hats on. Seriously. Choosing to play with one of the top three players in the ENTIRE league or to play with an exciting point guard that’s not even in the top three at HIS position and a hustling center that probably tops out somewhere in the bottom tier of the top 10 of all centers leaguewide. These are the guys Bulls fans are pining their hopes on over Wade, Riley, Miami and Bosh’s tag-along. I got it now.

  • http://thekobebeef.wordpress.com LDR4

    I agree with niQ. I read this on ESPN last night. Really the only reason I read it was because Marc Stein co-wrote it. Bosh is going to go where ever James goes…unless he stays put. Even if all these players went to Miami the Heat would still need to get a point guard.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    A point guard, A point guard, My kingdom for a point guard. I’m kind of certain a one legged-man that can make a mid-range jumper could play point with these three on the same squad, in Miami, Chicago or Kallamazoo.

  • T-Money

    supercoolbeas would have to go for the three of them to sign in mia. / E: you think spo will resign to “spend time with his family”? you know riles will want to dust off the armani suit and roam the sidelines!

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    T, if it was to happen, I’m pretty sure there is a CBA squad that could employ Spo until an NBA job opened up for him. I’m still not sold on all three coming to Miami though.

  • jumpman3224

    If LBJ goes to Miami to play with Wade, will his rep/legacy take a hit because he will be playing with a guy that won a title as the man, which he hasn’t been able to do?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Damage Control Inc.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    Geez, Eboy sounds desperate as hell this morning. “Don’t sign with the Bulls! We got a top three player! Y’all don’t need a point guard!” You still pissed about the Bulls sweeping your “defending champions” in ’07? Or maybe pissed that the Bulls took Rose in ’08, leaving y’all to take Beasely? Maybe cause only two of the four jerseys y’all retired actually played for the Heat, while one played for the Bulls and another for the f*ckin’ Miami Dolphins! Noah is without a doubt light years better than Beasely and I’ll take Rose over Wade any day of the week cause despite the fact Wade’s above and beyond a better player at this point, ya man’s also nearing 30. Look, I don’t know where LeBron and Bosh are going and I’m not saying they’re going to the Bulls, but don’t come on here talking like the Bulls just came off a 12 win season and the Heat have won multiple championships. What, you thought you were rooting for the Miami Celtics?

  • The D Train

    Eboy…my point was the positions that Noah and Rose play compared to Wade at the 2 and Beasley as the 4 or 6th man. Finding a quality center and pg is more difficult than finding a quality shooting guard. So short-term, like as in “if they signed and played each other that day,” the Bulls would be a better bet in my eyes. But as you’ve mentioned before, and as I totally agree, Riles is the wild-card. If he could bring in those guys, then it’s a matter of what he would surround them with. As a Bulls fan I’d be scared that JR would sign the big guys, then skimp on the rest. Riles and Micky would not be havin’ that. Top-to-bottom, Miami currently has the better organization. Top-to-bottom, Chicago currently has the better team…at least in my biased eyes.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Enigmatic just wrote that he’d take Rose over Wade anyday. For the entirety of his SLAM posting career, none of us will ever have to question his stupidity going forward. Thanks for clarifying that, Enigmatism.

  • http://www.slamonline.com jumpman3224

    Love the update, this week (and the coming weeks) is (are) going to be crazy.

  • The D Train

    I will say, however, that if Wade is able to recruit both James and Bosh, it’ll be his biggest sell-job since the 2006 Finals when he sold fouls to the refs to the tune of over 15 FT’s a game. I never thought he’d outdo himself, but it appears he just might.

  • http://www.slamonline.com/ The Promise

    I just wish the drama would come to an end. I hope they all sign the first freakin day, I’m so sick of hearing about this..

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    D-Train, I agree with your roster assessment, sh*t, the Heat only have two guys under contract….what I think, and it’s only an opinion, is that these three guys as a unit, with Riley, can pick and choose from who’s available to fill the roster. Sure there will be guys who won’t take money cuts and will feel slighted as being looked at as spare tires on this front-loaded car, but…..BUT (STEVEN A. style) I think there would be a bunch of guys willing to ride out with the them to see where they could be TAKEN. Let’s not overstate these three together’s potential greatness. And yes, Bosh and Bron in Chicago would be just as great too.

  • http://leartalk.tumblr.com/ cramzy

    alright……wake me up when the ink dries on the paperwork. I’m taking a free agent talk vacation

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    Wow. Great argument, Eboy. Really, you had me floored with that one. Your rebuttal amounts to “you’re stupid.” Freakin’ genius. You don’t know a damn thing about me son, don’t question my intelligence. Yeah, I did say I’d take Rose over Wade. Did I say Rose was better than Wade? Hell no, but I’ll take a 21 year old over an injury-prone 28 year old.

  • T-Money

    Seriously, with these 3. You can start Chalmers at the one and the Pittman kid from Texas at the 5. Wade and Bron would play 40 mins each so you’d need a vet wing that plays 20 a game, arroyo to spell chalmers, joel anthony and a pj brown-type in the frontcourt. think about it, there will ALWAYS be at least 2 of the 3 superstars on the court at all times. EVERYTHING will be ran through them.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Ok, “son”, you keep that fantasy alive. I’ll refer to your comment in all future conversations when you begin to sound dumb again.

  • The D Train

    Wade, Bosh and Lebron would be amazing. Wade is right there with Lebron and Kobe in the top echelon. So if you replaced Kobe for Wade in this scenario, people would be hailing it as the greatest team ever, without regard for the rest of the “team.” I am one of those that believes that Wade is just behind Kobe at the moment, but Wade also doesn’t have Kung-Pau bailing his 6-24 a$$ out. So it’s all relative. Wade, Lebron, Bosh is about the best triplet combo you could have. So it’d be all about filling in the gaps. They’d obviously have more gaps to fill in than a team like Chicago, simply a numbers game (roster-wise, and money-wise), but even Bulls fans cannot dispute that Wade, Lebron, Bosh is better than Rose, Lebron, Bosh…well, except for Enigmatic.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    D, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Lebron in Chicago and Miami gets STAT and Gay as their pieces…..I’ve said this a week ago. This is just a good story for today and makes for fun commenting.

  • The D Train

    Enigmatic’s point about durability could be raised, although we then have to admit that Rose missed some time at the beginning of his second season, and then took a while to warm up. The age difference between Wade and Rose is interesting, but Kobe is showing that, if Wade stays healthy, there is no reason he can’t be super-great for the length of a single contract. Either way, if Lebron finally pairs with someone better than Mo freakin’-completely-overrated Williams, maybe we can finally see some of the Magic-style comparisons. I think we’ve all wanted to see that from him from day one, and pairing with Wade, Rose, or Bosh will hopefully allow him to show off his tremendous playmaking skills more than he ever has. Frankly, that is the bottom line to me…how great can this cat be when he plays with good-to-great teammates. He made Mo Williams into a border-line All-Star…what could he do for someone who’s already an All-Star?

  • The D Train

    And E…if STAT goes to Miami with Wade, I am all over my DVR for those games. The highlights with those 2 running pick and roll would be top-notch.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    You do your thing. Life is bigger than Slamonline. And I, like others, will say stupid things from time to time. But if it makes you feel any better about yourself, refer away.

  • http://nba.com S.Man

    So Chris Bosh isn’t re-signing with Toronto?

  • Javy

    It doesn’t matter what they do!
    Lakers will be waiting.
    We have to sign a defensive player like bell.
    Then you got Pau, Bynum, Kobe and Artest to lock down on D.
    Of course I will watch their games but at the end of the day, they have to learn how to win.
    The only proven one is Wade.
    Then you got injuries and chemistry.
    Yes they have a better percentage of winning a title but it is not all that easy.

  • CC413

    well hell no hes not re-signing wit the raptors where have u been the last year?

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    @D Train – Well said. For the record, I do hope Wade can stay healthy and have a long, prosperous career. I even hope he wins another chip or two. At the end of the day, I still loving seeing cats from Chicago succeed.

  • Scottie Pimpin

    chicago is in a good position regardless of who signs up. we got Drose, aka prince of chicago, noah aka the beast from the east, and now we got coach Thibs. not to mention a bench of ballers, personally i like boozer over bosh anyways….let the games begin.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    @Eboy – OK, to keep things really real, I defintely can see how that can be viewed as a “stupid comment.” Wade’s a future hall-of-famer, Rose is barely beginning to start his third year in the L. I’ve read your blogs and respect your knowledge of the game. I just take offense to you calling me stupid on a personal level. You didn’t even say I was “basketball-stupid”, just plain stupid. Damn. I fought in OIF to come back and have dudes call me stupid over the internet. F it, I should sign back on the dotted line, pick up my M-16 and go back to living a lifestyle where true stupidity will get me and my brothers effin’ killed….sorry bout going on like this. Don’t mind me, I’m just being stupid.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    @Scottie Pimpin – I love your enthusiasim for the Bulls yo, but for real, calling Taj Gibson and James Johnson “a bench of ballers” would be a stretch. Seriously, that’s one of the things that scare me bout us signing two max guys. We have NO bench. We’d have to make do with a bunch of guys signing for the minimum. I just read yesterday on Sam Smith’s blog we might not even have a mid-level exception so it would literally be Rose, Deng, Noah, Gibson, Johnson, and then the two max guys and a bunch of min guys. Thibs would have to learn to play an 8-man rotation for an entire season and postseason somehow.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Enigmatic….it’s just words, bro….no harm meant….kind of like you didn’t mean it to sound like Rose is better than Wade today. I get it, and apologies for mistaking my barbs as personal attacks. I should have referenced you losing your mind for a minute for making that statement. Nothing else.

  • Yesse

    “UPDATE: … Or maybe they didn’t.”

    What? Why you guys make news like this if they didn’t? To get us excited? Not funny.

  • ciroqobama

    Enigmatic is sensitive daaaamn! lol

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Eff that, I can see why a team would rather have Rose over Wade.
    Point guards are harder to find than two guards, Rose is younger and less injury prone. It all depends on your team. Rose isn’t better than Wade, but I can see why a team would want to build long term around Rose.
    Honestly, if the Bulls just get Joe Johnson, they will be a very dangerous team.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    @Eboy – thanks, brother. It’s all good. I hadn’t had my shot of java yet when I made that statement (I’m on Alaska time these days). @ciroaobama -sorry, that may or may not be the PTSD acting up!

  • http://4Aitkenroad,Hamilton,ScotlandML37YA Hambone

    i think shaq may be a key signing,wait a minute i was playing live 97

  • cp3fan

    D-Wade and LeBron are supposed to be playing against each other, not with each other. This will take some of the excitement out of the league. Two of the three best players on the same team? I would rather see Dwyane and Bosh go against LeBron and Boozer/Stoudemire.

  • cp3fan

    They will still have a hard time with the Bulls if they get two star players still and the Orlando Magic aren’t going anywhere anytime soon. And they still won’t be better than the Lakers if Phil Jackson decides to return. Who are you going to put around them? That’s also a question that needs to be answered before we crown them the 2011 NBA Champions.

  • http://kb24.com DreXnaW21

    Question: DWade + LeBron + CB4 = 2011 Champions???

    Answer: No…

  • Jose

    Co-sign DreXna (even as a heat fan myself.) =(
    I was speechless when i saw the Head;ine for this right now.haha. Kinda let dwn now…

  • T-Money

    Allenp: that’s good and all but Chicago would trade Rose for Wade yesterday. Straight up. Cmon guys, get real. 28 is not 38. / Bosh in MIA is done, apparently he bought a house already. Personally, as a Bron fan, I would still prefer the Chicago option. The team already has an identity and there would be no alpha dog crisis. Bron would run sh-t from the get go, D-Rose would be the Robin, Noah would be the energy/dirty work guy, and they would STILL have enough cash to snatch a PF. Rose, Bron, Deng, Booz/Lee/STAT, Noah is an incredible 5. You can even trade Deng for a SG+back up big man. And you still have Taj Gibson.

  • http://www.twitter.com/dfrance21 dfrance

    I don’t get the Rose/Wade debate at all. Teams in the hunt for these free agents are trying to win right now, not 5 years from now so the age point is moot. You’d be crazy not to take Wade over Rose today, or for the next 5 years for that matter. And the whole “a pg is harder to find than a sg” debate makes no sense. Rose is not CP3 or DWill or Rondo. Shoot-first athletic PGs are becoming a dime a dozen too.

    With that being said, i do feel that Chi is a better destination for the Bron/Bosh combo than MIA. But not by much.

  • T-Money

    I have no clue why Bosh prefers MIA to Chicago other than the weather and the st tax (wait, I know exactly why then). He’ll have to play the 5 a lot in MIA as opposed to Chicago who have a legit 5 that will play 35+ a game. Once you sign on the dotted line, you have no leverage anymore. If Riles says you play 5 then you play 5.

  • http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:OzhW3M1GBSKkgM:http://fashionsensei.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/jackie-moon.jpg Jackie Moon

    @Eboy I want to talk Lakers!!!!

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    ^Someone with reasoning powers………that is NOT a dime a dozen around here. Bravo.

  • http://fjkf.com Jukai

    Rose/Wade isn’t remotely debatable. Eboy said it best: Wade is top-3 in the LEAGUE. Rose isn’t even top three in his position. Just THINK about that for a second before anyone asks who Lebron would rather play with.
    It’s not like Rose is a Paul/Nash/Deron type PG. He can pass, but he gets his assists cause of his scoring, not the other way around. Give me Wade anyday.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Jackie…have at it, the bandwagoners will be shifting way South soon, so you’ll have a lot of free time to discuss your team with half the populace gone.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    T….you act like Noah is an offensive, post-up center. He’s going to have to play out of the paint a ton to free up space for a potential Bosh/Boozer/STAT spot. He’s not a center like Shaq or Dwight, He’s just so limited offensivley, he’s listed as a center because you can hide a crappy offensive guy there and just use his length and hustle at the spot. Chicago has a history of big stiffs from the early 80′s on. Would you like me to name them? Here I goes…….(you’ll love this, I’m sure)

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Granville Waiters.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Brad Sellers.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Dickey Simpkins.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Dave Corzine.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Eddy Curry.

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Cheryl

    Just a comparison: Boston’s “Big Three” all had different style games. Ray spot up threes, PP’s fairly versatile, can spot up or create, KG’s an animal (or at least he thinks he is) on D and can score down low and hit a mid range shot. These 3 offered the Celtics a variety of ways to beat a team. I’m worried that if Miami gets its own “Big Three” of Wade-Bron-Bosh-that there’d be too many egos and too few ways to diversify an offense. I’m all for at least one of Bron or Bosh–I think we’d be awesome. But add that third, and there could be trouble. And as for PG, that argument is moot since DWade handles most of the time anyway and has shown that if he trusts his teammates he will pass the ball. Bron handles as well. The point on a team with Wade and James is in name only.

  • T-Money

    E: but he’ll defend centers. that’s the key.

  • http://www.twitter.com/dfrance21 dfrance

    Dickey Simpkins!!!

  • CC413

    nice enthusiasm for your team scotty but be realistic man yal dont have a bench of ballers.. and boozer over bosh? bosh is a better scorer, rebounder, and defender and will only get better while boozer is pretty much as good as hel ever get.. yeah boozer may be alil rougher in the post but he cant get his like bosh can.. this is a no-brainer i mean boozer is a tremendous player but just be realistic man

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Joe Alexander.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Cheryl is in denial because she doesn’t want to believe that it could actually happen.

  • http://www.bulls.com Enigmatic

    I remember watching Bulls games in the 90′s, wanting to choke the sh*t outta Dickey Simpkins. Same with Luc Longley and Will Perdue. Good times.

  • Twon

    Was Wade in Chicago this past Weekend? i think this was made up.

  • http://www.slamonline.com/ niQ

    trying not to get my hopes up. who’s on the bench?

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Should I mention Bill Wennington, Luc Longley, Joe Klein & Jack Haley or no because they all got rings?

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Cheryl

    that niQ comment was me… Slam’s phantom at it again…

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    niQ, I could come off the bench and contribute 6 pts a game. I’m sure you could muster a basket or two.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    T-Money
    So because Chicago would do it does that make it smart?
    Wade is better than all but two cats in the league, and it’s arguable whether those cats are better than him. But, he regularly has injuries, he’s prone to pouting and he’s a somewhat undersized two guard. I love Wade’s game, but if I was building a team, I wouldn’t just trade Rose straight up because he’s on the verge of being one of the best point guards in the league, and that and low post big man are the two hardest things to find.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Well then Cheryl, you could contribute a bucket a half couldn’t you? For the league minimum?

  • CC413

    u run your mouth alil too much eboy.. noah will be one of the best centers in the nba and is already one of the best rebounders post defenders.. he will only get better and is already better than any of the players u mentioned

  • http://www.slamonline.com/ niQ

    I was wondering why Eboy was talking about me. lol

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Allen is out of his mind. And I love the dude. Until Rose can make SOMEBODY better on his own squad, let’s stop talking. He’s great for what he is….a very good slashing/scoring pg. He’s not the type of guy that’s leading you with his “team-first” mentality. That’s what a PG is supposed to do. He is not that. He’s an undersized two, if anything. Let’s not be conflicted mentally.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    DFrance
    Rose is not a shoot first athletic point guard. I watched enough Chicago games to realize that Rose is a willing and very able passer, who understand tempo and running an offense. the problem was the offense. You put Rose in an offense that uses him the same way the point guards you named are used, and he would be extremely dangerous.
    Besides, he’s barely scratching his potential. Athletically, he’s like the Lebron of point guards. Plus, he showed marked improvement from year one to year two in his jump shot. He needs to improve on defense, but has the tools and appears to want to work.
    Bottom line, Wade is one of the three best players in the league, easy money. And, I wouldn’t be mad if Chicago traded Rose for Wade. But, I wouldn’t be mad at Chicago if they turned that trade down because they believed they would be jsut fine with Joe Johnson playing the two instead of Wade.

  • http://www.slamonline.com/ niQ

    SLAM: Where Reporting the news then un-reporting the News happens.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    CC413, and offensivley he is 3 steps below Dwight and that’s pretty horrible so……..what’s your point? He’s a hustler/defender….good for him and he’s in a good system for his skills.

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Cheryl

    Just checked out the unretricteds across the league and I guess a nice bench could be had for the league minimum. I would like to see UD and Joel back, and they’re not taking the minimum.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Dwyane must have done something personally to Allen.

  • http://slamonline.com JL

    noah’s actually quite good. not much of an offensive player skill wise, but very active and not a stiff, see how he stole the ball and took it all the way for a dunk. that takes fast reflexes, agility, and speed.

    I think the heat will definitely not sign 3 max guys (or close to max), but 2 max and 1 semi-max guy. They do need a bench, a good one, as they can’t last a full season playing all 40+ minutes. it’ll be like the cavs all over again.

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Cheryl

    sorry, unrestricted free agents. the follower has a list of all 30 teams’…

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Cheryl

    sorry, unrestricted free agents. the follower has a list of all 30 teams’…

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Eboy
    Exactly what is “make someone better”?
    Did Noah improve?
    How is Deng looking?
    Taj Gibson?
    So you’re arguing that Rose didn’t improve their play besides the horrible coaching by Vinny? You’re saying you have noticed that vast improvement in Rose’s jumper, particular off the bounce on pick and rolls, or his growing understandin of tempo?
    You don’t remember what he did to the celtics and cleveland in back to back years?
    The Bulls ran a crappy offense, it was n’t about Rose being a chucker or shoot first.
    More importantly, look at how much dude improved from his rookie year, despite the injury and then consider all the untapped potential.
    I mean, was Wade actually making Chalmers and Beasley better, or pouting like a spoiled child when he didn’t get his way.
    Sure, he was a beast that first year after the Olympics, but I can’t be the only one who noticed that he was taking games off and turning on his teammates last year, can I?

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Oh, and Noah is underrated offensively. I thought he would just be a hustle, Varejo guy, but his passing and court vision or suberb. As is his spacing. He has oodles of confidence and a willingness to put in work.
    His jumper is an atrocity, but it improved slightly, he improved his faceup game and jump hook last year.
    Plus, his motor is off hte charts. Dude has a a lot of potential, way more than I originally gave him credit for.
    I think if the Bulls signed say Joe Johnson and Stat, they would have no problem being championship contenders in the East, even if LBJ, Wade and Bosh team up in Miami. I honestly like that roster so much.

  • The Philosopher

    Wade was gassed during the Playoffs.
    Riley criticized Wade’s conditioning during the season. But…

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Allen…..I’m confused, a month ago you were kind of slurping all things Lakers, now you seem to have a crush on the Bulls. What’s the deal? Equal opportunity love? Would you root a little bit for the Heat if they sign AI to a minimal contract too….cause that’s what’s being talked about too.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Who said I would root against the Heat?
    And when was I slurping the Lakers?
    I said they were the best team in the League. They were, duh. I don’t have a personal team, not do have serious vendattas against players. Except Vince Carter.
    I like teams with talent, and I’m a fan of individual players. I’ve been a fan of Rose, and I’m warming to Noah after the way he stepped up last year. I think you’re underselling dude because he is most definitely not a stiff. He’s really just been getting by on athletic ability on offense, but he has shown some decent touch a willingness to improve. That’s huge with his motor.
    If the Heat signed AI, I would root for AI and the Heat, but it wouldn’t mean that was my team.
    People are stuck on this Wade/Bron joining, but has anybody thought about how much each of them love to dominate the ball?
    People keep saying the Point Guard is immaterial, but that assumes you’re running some sort of structured, offense where cats are getting shots in their spots no matter what. If you’re not, then the point is incredibly important because he dictates who gets the ball where, or you’re going to have Lebron and Wade taking turns running 1-4 flat, while everybody else stands around.
    Because last time I checked, tha’ts what both of their teams have done for the past three or four years.

  • http://www.slamonline.com Eboy

    Talent trumps all. That’s what has made the Lakers champs, no? No? Yes? Maybe? Good coaching….a proven system? All of the above? But really, the best talent wins most of the time. Not all of the time, but it’s hard to argue results. I’d use a team like Boston two years ago as the model that this potentially can turn into. 3 huge stars (these three are actually huger, no?)that buy into a philosophy (don’t think Riles couldn’t one-up Ubuntu)and make it work because THEIR TALENT can dictate the way they play the game.

  • http://shawn-kemps-offspring.blogspot.com Cheryl

    that’s what i’m concerned about, Allenp and mentioned in one of my posts. it’ll take a really talented coach with creative offensive schemes to make this triumvirate work. I do want to say that I don’t think the way Bron and Wade play is due to selfishness, to the contrary, I think they play the way they do because of the team around them and that even their coaches trusted them more than the rest of the team. Both players are team oriented, they just need consistent output from teammates.

  • http://hibachi20.blogspot.com Moose

    Eboy has a b0ner from this possibility.

  • http://Www.dimemag.com Royal

    I am soooooo happy my Lakers are in the west. The Bulls,Celtics,Orlando and heat are going to destroy eachother in the postseason next year ,while the team who gave LA serious problems last year will be losing their franchise player (Amare)

  • http://fjkf.com Jukai

    Allen: So you claim Rose is only a ‘shoot first point-guard’ on the Bulls because he isn’t on a team that allows for a point guard to dominate and distribute the ball… but you ignore the fact that Wade and Lebron have never been on a team that allows them to play off the ball?
    I think Wade and Lebron would get along like Jordan/Pippen… REALLY believe so… they’ve never been on a TEAM where they could play off the ball… but don’t you remember Lebron in the olympics? He was a DAMN PIPPEN CLONE. Distributing occassionally, playing off occassionally. It was beautiful.

  • The Philosopher

    Prediction Time… Again:
    Those three guys in Miami, The King would average a tripple double.

  • http://www.twitter.com/JoshElam JE

    I posted this on a couple other threads, but you heard it from me first: “3-6 Mafia”

  • cp3fan

    Wade played better than LeBron did during the playoffs for his one series. He gave the Celtics 46 points in Game 4 while LeBron gave up as his series with the Celtics went on.

  • cp3fan

    Rose is a point guard, not an undersized two. He is a top five point guard who will get better defensively as his career goes on. The list goes like this: Deron Williams, Chris Paul, Rajon Rondo, Derrick Rose. Steve Nash is good, but only on offense. The four I mentioned are good on both ends of the floor.

  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    Jukai
    I never said that Wade and Bron couldn’t play off the ball.
    I said they haven’t, and that if they want to have success, one of them will have to sacrifice doing what he is most comfortable doing on offense to make it work.
    Or, they will have to run a very structured offense with defined roles and attack areas.
    Or they will have to have a strong point guard to rein people in, and decide who gets the ball when.
    I”m saying that a “roll out the ball” type offense will cause problems, in my opinion. I’m saying that a throwing any old bum out at the point will cause some problems as well.
    I don’t think Wade and Bron can’t pass, far from it. But, I think that when you develop certain habits, and certain ways of having success, it’s quite easy to get stuck in your ways.
    Do people remember how Brandon Roy had the same problem this year when Andre Miller came in?

  • http://www.slamonline.com jumpman3224

    Prediction: If LBJ teams with some combo of Wade, Rose, Bosh he does not three-peat as MVP. *Side note, I saw @Philosopher’s prediction about him averaging a trip-dub with that MIA lineup and I could see that, which got me thinking about the Big O. I assumed his one MVP came in his famous trip-dub season, but it didn’t (he was the 64 MVP and he missed a trip-dub average by .1 rpg that season). The 62 MVP (Big O’s trip dub season) was Russell, who also was named to the all-nba 2nd team?! That’s kinda shocking that you have one guy average a monster trip dub and Wilt average 50+ and Russel gets the MVP.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    LeBron is not going to Miami.

  • CC413

    eboy how many teams in the entire L have centers that hustle and play with the passion noah plays with.. i can only think of one (anderson varejao) yeah howard is obviously better.. but not even howard plays with hustle and desire in which noah does nor will he ever.. everything comes natural with howard he is jus gifted.. joakim noah is not he has to work to get his and his work ethic has turned him into one of the top centers in the L.. theres not one team in the L (outside of orlando, houston, cleveland -only cause they already have his clone varejao- and boston) that would not love to have noah wearing their jersey.. there is only a handful of players in the L that play with the intesity and drive and do it with such a motor as noah and that a special quality that every gm in the L look for and wish their players posessed.. if bron and bosh join noah and the bulls then several years and rings from now you will be swallowing your careless, ignorant, un-intelligent words

  • http://www.slamonline.com Pardeep

    This is how it will go down: LeBron and Boozer sign with the Bulls, Bosh and Wade in Miami, Amare Stoudemire and Joe Johnson in NY,

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    LeBron is going to New Jersey. SO is another FA power forward in a sign and trade for Derrick Favors. Did anyone watch the draft???? The nets front office was referring to Favors as an ASSET. When ever are top 3 picks considered ASSETS? When they get traded or are going to get traded, thats when.

  • http://www.twitter.com/dfrance21 dfrance

    @AllenP

    I’m going to have to disagree with you on this one. Rose is a great talent, but he is not a traditional point guard that would be “hard to find.” I get that players can be limited by their system or personell, but they have to have the skillset as well and I just don’t see the set up the offense, get the whole team involved skillset from Rose. Being a very willing and able passer doesn’t make you a point guard. And saying his jumper has improved or he’s like the Lebron of pgs has nothing to do with his ability to run a team.

    Now if they get Bosh and Lebron, they can have a chimp run the point and be fine, but saying finding a Rose-type player is a hard to do is just incorrect.

  • CC413

    dfrance jus how many player are there like rose since u say they are not hard to find?

  • T-Money

    Allen: you’re selling Bron and Wade short as basketball players. Great players find a way. They may have to sacrifice some of their creativity but they’ll find a way. Shaq and Kobe did it and these two actually like eachother. The truth is, Wade and Bron never played with someone that was good enough to make them play off the ball. CB4 is a sidekick, he’ll get the crumbs and that’s that.

  • CC413

    CB4 will get more than the crumbs.. he will get his trash points as he has all throughout his career but he has made it known that he will get more than that or he simply wont sign.. he wants to be a main player and he will get what he deserves to get.. which is more than trash points

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  • http://fjkf.com Jukai

    Allen- point still stands. You say rose can easily become a ‘true point’ on another team while you constantly interject on the Lebron/Wade tandem saying ‘they’ve never played like that.’ Do you see the point I’m trying to make?
    Good players will find ways to play together. Unless theyr’e Shaq and Kobe.

  • matt

    They can’t fill a decent roster with those three ball hogs taking all the cash–Miami’s pockets aren’t THAT deep. Plus, who is the go-to guy? Bosh has said publicly he wants to be the centerpiece–not 2nd fiddle. I truly doubt he will be 3rd fiddle.

  • The D Train

    If Derrick Rose is considered the 5th or 6th best PG in the NBA, wouldn’t that mean that finding a player like him is difficult? Finding an NBA-skilled player is hard. Finding an NBA-skilled player who is an All-Star is even harder. Finding someone who is in the top 5 or 6 at their position in the entire NBA is also pretty damn difficult. So for anyone to indicate that “finding a Rose-type player is a hard to do is just incorrect” is completely dismissive of reality.

  • The D Train

    If Lebron leaves, Cleveland fans will hate him. But that hate will be completely misplaced. The fact that this is the first time that Lebron will ever have the chance to play with anyone that could be considered top 50 in the league is truly the saddest part of this whole affair. Seven years in and Mo Williams and Back-Stabbing Boozer are the best teammates he’s had over that time period? Seriously sad. And I hope that IF he does leave Cleveland, he mentions that, and that Cleveland at least partially understands that. This wouldn’t exactly be A-Rod leaving behind Griffey Jr and The Big Unit solely for the money.

  • Edler

    Bosh and Wade in Miami and then Riley should sign AI for 3 million for one season at the point and then they win the ring.

  • ktokyo

    Please, please, please Bron, Bosh, and Wade play on the same team together on any team in the Eastern Conference. Next years’ Finals will be off the charts!! I’ll book my plane ticket to LA tomorrow!

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  • http://slamonline.com Allenp

    I never agree that Rose wasn’t a true point guard. I have no indication that he’s in the mode of Jameer Nelson, or Aaron Brooks; players who have to look to score first to be effective.
    I think Rose is pass first. I just think he is asked to score more.
    From what I’ve seen of Wade and Bron since 2003, they don’t play that much off the ball, or work well off the ball. And, seven years into their careers, are they really going to want to trust and change when what they have been doing has worked so well, particularly for Wade. Remember, Wade has a ring dominating the ball, he knows that works. The coach has to sell those guys on changing their games to a certain degree and keep them happy through rough patches. It was different in Boston because the best player, KG, was pass first and not really a dominant scorer. Plus, KG, Ray and, to certain degree, Pierce were on the downside of their careers. Bosh, Wade and Bron are all in their primes, playing for rings and ultimate legacy. They might not be as willing to sacrifice, or they might not be as trusting if they struggle early. But, honestly I have no idea what’s going to happen, these are just things I wonder about.

  • http://slamonline.com nbk

    LeBron is one of the best players in the league at moving without the ball. Its still to be seen whether or not he loses interest because he has never spent more then 2 possessions in a row without it. But he is one of the best players in the league at getting to a spot on the floor to receive a pass and score, or that grabs attention away from other players at the basket.

  • http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:OzhW3M1GBSKkgM:http://fashionsensei.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/jackie-moon.jpg Jackie Moon

    I would go to Miami … damn I would have a good time down there if I was a billionaire, I want to be one so frickin bad

  • Fat Lever

    I gotta say, the title of this article might be “Pause” worthy. But then again, Wade “dont play pause, he’s from Chicagooooooo”.

  • http://claydefayette@yahoo.com Clay

    How much fun would it be to camp at the three point line with a team that had Bosh, Wade & LeBron?

  • http://claydefayette@yahoo.com Clay

    LeBron would be better off going to a team with a great coach rather than two superstars to go along with, but it looks like Riley would coach the Heat and mesh the players together. It would be nice to see Larry Brown back coaching the Clippers and getting LeBron to come with him. For LeBron, he could win being an undisputed number one with a great cast around him.

  • DC

    I can’t believe there’s actually talk about these three being on the same team, it just seams unreal.

  • http://claydefayette@yahoo.com Clay

    Hardest question of free agency, just not at all important: Where will David Lee call home by the end of the summer?

  • The D Train

    @Clay: NY Knicks. They can play the “we always wanted David back” card after Lebron, Wade, Bosh and Amare leave them hanging. All those losses, trades, and frustrations might just end up netting Knickerbocker fans Joe Johnson and David Lee…if Johnson doesn’t also sign elsewhere. Might not be a good summer for Spike and Co.

  • http://claydefayette@yahoo.com Clay

    D Train I don’t think the Knicks will get screwed that bad, but if they do he’d go back.

  • http://www.kb24.com The Seed

    If they all play in Miami, egos will take effect. Who is the Alpha dog, who gets ball in last seconds, and Lebron will be seen as riding Dwade’s coat tail. Wade is smart, if they play together, Wade will always have more rings if they win some together. The pressure on them, to me would kill them. If I was Bosh, Chi town is best place. Lebron should go to Chicago, but if he goes to Miami, it will end badly to me. Lebron is better off going to Nets or Knicks where he will have no expectations and just play. Lebron’s best ball was in 2007, when he led his team to finals, because he just played and that team had no expectations to do anything. Lebron cracks under pressure, just look at his career.

  • http://sdfjklf.com Jukai

    Allenp:
    Point…still… stands…
    Derrick Rose is ‘asked’ to score more just like Lebron and Wade are ‘asked’ to dominate the ball. Yeah, it’s seven years of evidence compared to two, but it’s still all we have to go on.
    EXCEPT: Lebron was excellent as combining playing off the ball, scoring, and distributing in the Olympics… and Wade played his role excellently too. We really have never SEEN Derrick Rose ever play the true point guard role (always played off the ball in college, scores in bunches in Chicago).
    I’m not saying Derrick Rose can’t— he definitely can. But I just think Wade and Lebron would work perfectly.
    Lebron DOES love to play the Pippen role. Wade CAN play off the ball and finish perfectly. End of story,

  • http://www.slamonline.com Pardeep

    @Jukai: LeBron loves to play the Pippen role? Are u insane? How are u going to be the greatest basketball player ever if you are playing the Pippen role? There is no way these two will mesh, there will be a lot of jealousy at times no matter what, these guys just say the right things in the media and when LeBron starts to outplay the Wade or Wade starts to outplay Bron the media will blow it up like that one guy is much better then the other. Who would get the last shot? Their both still scorers and LeBron needs the ball, Wade will get frustrated when he is standing around watching James do his thing, This move would work if these guys were all 32 years old like the Celtics were when they formed the Big 3, but LeBron, Wade and Bosh are going to take hits because their stats will be worse, none of them will win MVP’s, Wade and LeBron compete against each other a lot through the season, one guy has a big game then the next night the other guy wants to do the same thats all good when you are on different teams but when you start competing with each other and your on the same team then it will get nasty. Wade and Bosh, LeBron and Boozer or Stoudemire is much better.

  • The Philosopher

    I’ll tell the truth:
    Say these guys pull this off. We’re talking a dynasty for the ages. I personally hope they do it, for NBA basketball, in my opinion, really needs this.
    Even IF they play together to just get a few rings, you know, play out their contracts, a few rings would do a plenty for each of their respective legacies.
    Even if they play together through part OR all of their contracts, at the end of this, they all will still be young enough to branch out again on their own, so to speak, with their own teams. Kind of like a ‘full circle’ type of thing.

  • Sporting-Lisbon-Blazers

    Rose´s a scoring PG, he showed no evidence of being a true point, but with Bron thats not needed, aside from his lack of ability to shoot they would fit greatly, so would Flash with Bron

  • Sean

    E-Boy stop talking out your ass..A roster of Rose, Luol, Gibson and Noah is much more promising than Beasley and Wade.

    Beasley isn`t in all honesty light years ahead of Gibson. Wade needs the ball to score and isn`t a distributor. Plus the Bulls team has youth on it`s side. This could be the best team in the league for the next 8 years at least.

  • Sporting-Lisbon-Blazers

    i just dont wanna see Bron AND Bosh sign with Bulls or Heat togheder cause thats too much. my wishes: NYK-Bron, STAT CHI-JJohnson, Boozer MIA-Bosh, Rudy Gay. That would be the perfect balanca to make the East repectable again!

  • Sporting-Lisbon-Blazers

    @Sean: oh Wade is a distributor, more than Rose for sure!

  • Sean

    You obviously don`t watch the Bulls play that often.

  • http://Www.slamonline.com Negetivekreep

    LeBron is the most dominant player in the game right now & I hate to go all captain oubvious, but we are all speculating about where HE is going right? That being said, it’s rediculous to me that anyone especially Jukai would believe that. #1, Being in the ultimate drivers seat, LeBron would be willing to scoot over to shotgun for D-Wade or anyone. And #2, That Pat Riley or anyother coach or organization bidding for LeBron would Want him as a secondary option, Scoring/closing/ect. That idea is crazy to me, also Have we forgotten the size of this guys ego? And don’t think he’s going to be soo easily manipulated by D-Wade, who unlike LeBron has made it clear that he wants to stay at home, and has tried to plant negative seeds in brons head about Chicago. Thru this whole thing Wade’s been wearing his feelings on his sleeve, while Brons had on his poker face. After quitting on the funky bunch because he had zero confidence in them to show up when it counted, to me, LeBron showed that he’s looking for control. A solid team he can have confidence in, that won’t choke. But thiers no doubt in my mind that he wants to be the LEADER of said squad, after all wasn’t he the self appointed leader of the redeem team? Chicago is still the more Battle tested playoff team that’s litterally a “Lebron” away from being the #1 contender in the east. Cant say the same thing about Miami.

  • Sporting-Lisbon-Blazers

    dude i swear I´ve watched them like 50 games this season, as I did the Heat, and Rose is a scoring point, a great one for sure but not a distributor…as Wade is a playmaking SG, like Brandon Roy. Put great players with Wade and he´ll average like 7 assists, while getting his 25pts

  • http://www.slamonline.com Pardeep

    The Bulls with Bron and Bosh is not going to be a winner either, people have to understand these guys are all young they know that only one team wins a championship every year so why would they risk their own legacy, their own individual accomplishments to maybe win a title. What if it doesn’t work out? Rose and Bron need the ball to be successful and their is no way Rose can play off the ball, Bosh would be averaging like 17 and 10 on this team maybe less where as with one guy like Wade or Joe Johnson he could be averaging 25 and 12, being an all-star every year, getting MVP consideration then just being a ring and like two awards away from Hall Of Fame consideration. People should know that if Bosh and LeBron go to Miami to play with Wade his stats may be so low that he doesn’t make the All-Star game. It should be a 1-2 punch thing and it would work better basketball wise.

  • nastierthanu

    So nobody is going to jump all over D train for the comment on 11:46. D wade is right behind Kobe. Cats are really caught up to let that slip by.

  • Sporting-Lisbon-Blazers

    he isnt? trade Wade with Kob and LA would´ve won it in 6.

  • T-Money

    I love how Lakers fans are concerned that Chicago or Miami might have too much talent and would prefer that stars split up among the East so they can “fit” better. Yeah right.

  • manny

    ALTHOUGH I ABSOLUTELY HATE KOBE, HE NEVER NEEDED ANOTHER TIER 1 SUPERSTAR “GAURD” (NOT FORWARD OR CENTER, E.G. SHAQ, PAU)TO WIN A TITLE. IF LEBRON AND DWADE GOT TOGETHER, THT WOULD TRULY DISSAPOINT ME. ALTHOUGH EXCITING. ALL IT SAYS IS THAT LEBRON WAS NEVER GOOD ENOUGH TO LEAD A TEAM ON HIS OWN LIKE WADE AND KOBE HAVE. IF IT WAS JUST LEBRON AND BOSH, I WOULDNT MIND SO MUCH

  • manny

    and on a side note. how would those 3 share the ball? its not like boston’s big 3 where each had a defined role and they also dont have a rondo for intangibles. I think they would jus get in each others way. jus my opinion.

  • http://thetroyblog.com Teddy-the-Bear

    Actually, Dwyane Wade and LeBron James are friends and both are unselfish players anyways, AND they play different positions. Why couldn’t they co-exist? Ray Allen was THE man for his teams all of his career and he could sacrifice playing alongside Pierce–they did it with THREE All-Stars.
    Dwyane and LeBron would be nothing like Jordan and Pippen… Both guys could manage to share the load equally on both ends of the floor, and both are similar on the defensive end.

  • http://sdfjklf.com Jukai

    This is bull, I’m calling out a lot of guys here. Anyone who doesn’t think Wade and Lebron could coexist DOES NOT watch basketball.
    In my mind, it’s a want thing– if they care to sacrifice, their skillsets would MORE than compliment each other. It’s not even a question. Both average 7+ assists, both have shown in All-Star games and the Olympics that they can play GREAT off the ball… Stop treating what you see them do for their teams as if it’s the only thing they can possibly do.

  • penny

    @manny, erm if i recall correctly, when kobe won his 1st 3 rings, he had SHAQ carrying him on his shoulders…

  • rikson

    This would be great for an already unbalanced league and the sport itself…

  • http://ijustwantmynametolookbig.com Chukaz

    @penny, f*ck you dawg. Shaq did not carry kobe. Kobe was f*ckin great when they were winnin. Shaq called kobe the best f*ckin player in the f*ckin league during their second f*ckin championship run. Kobe bailed out Shaq when shaq fouled out against the pacers. n he did that on one ankle.

  • http://Www.slamonline.com Negetivekreep

    WTF?

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    Wade and Lebron are arguably the top 2 talents right now. They have best of the best skills and play almost of the same kind. That same reasons presents MORE questions than answers at this point in time. The only measure of their success is only a championship. MANY Championships.Thats why arguments of them about not co-existing are very valid. ray and pierce became successful not just because they adjusted, its because they’re style of play is not far from what they do before they get together. Bron and wade, plays the SAME. No matter how talented they are neither can’t make the HUGE adjustment in just one training camp. Neither was a great 3pt shooter, off-ball, spot-up or a post player. If lebron can expand his play and be at least great at 2 mentioned areas, then why didnt he did that to the cavs? Not one off-season would make them. Dont get me wrong i respect everyone who thinks it could work(meaning: Titles) and i would be happy to be corrected if they really could because hey its a championship! I truly see the possibility but its really small at this time imo.

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    I see Miami as the biggest winner in this free-agency.

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    I’m not even touching on the part of they’re EGO’s yet. Miami is Wade’s. Im a lebron fan world knows and I’d be the first to say that Lebron has super HUGE ego. Same with Wade and Bosh. With the way Lebron plays his skills, talent, the way he hypes all this free agency, i dont think he would settle to be anyones pippen. Especially now. I also dont think bosh can sacrifice like what KG did. KG could care less on offense b’cause he’s a monster on D. Bosh is not, he needs ball. I agree that this “BIG 3″ is way different on what the celts have in ray-paul-kg, on the situation in terms of the point of their careers, and the difference of their playing style.

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    bosh on post is great for either one of them similar to KG/Pau, bron will have the ball similar to Pierce or kobe to some extent. But wade cant spot up or go through screens for 3′s, all the time like Ray, not even half of the time. Vice versa with lebron. Run and Gun? Possibly, but you know even showtime lakers played a big chunk of GREAT half court in the playoffs. They can co-exist. But co-existing doesn’t neccessarily equates a title.

  • Ronald

    @J: Aren’t you thinking about too much semantics and X’s and O’s? It’s true that both players have the ball a lot of the time and are slashing orientated players. But Pippen and Jordan made it work (imho both were similar players albeit Jordan had a good mid-range J) which makes two slashing orientated players with similar skillset more than viable. Especially when both are extremely talented at creating on the drives.

  • ramses

    On any give night them three will give you arouns 85, 25, 20
    JUST THEM THREE!!! plus amazing defense.
    dont sleep on wade, he averages more blocks then any other PG and more than many PF & C too.

  • cp3fan

    The Heat still wouldn’t be better than the Lakers. So they can all get together and watch Kobe win his sixth ring. In crunch time, one of them will have to be the go-to guy. Everyone who truly knows the game knows that every superstar player has an ego. Just because they may be nice guys off the court, watch them play and you can see that they all have egos. At some point, Chris Brosh would get tired of the LeBron and Dwyane talk. He has shown his ego by saying that wherever he goes, he will only play the four spot. This would not work in my opinion if it did happen. I see Bosh in Miami, but not LeBron. Dwyane Wade has more Jordan in him than LeBron so I can see people calling out LeBron for not being able to win one as the man just like they did Kobe before he won without Shaq.

  • ramses

    J check yourself and some facts. Wade has no EGO.
    most down to earth superstar probably to ever cruise through the NBA

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    Ronald.. Jordan can play spot up at times, off the ball, catch and shoot in the perimeter, thats because he has the Jumpshot that allows him to. In which wade and james neither have at least at that level at this point in time. One summer training could not level their Jumpshots to what MJ had. If some one plays pip’s role, (likely lebron) he would drop down his points to i think 20ppg. which i think neither could accept. There’s no way all of them average at least 25 a game, even 2 of them. Bosh wont accept focusing on defense more, and again one or two summer of training wont turn him to a KG or TD. You dont need X’s and O’s to calculate the GIGANTIC amount of ego coming there, most notably 2 players thats entering prime.

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    Again im not totally against the idea, as if i could do anything.. Because if this really works how could i not be happy seing lebron win his championships.!

  • http://www.slamonline.com J

    ramses.. kids, what can i say..

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